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FYI, there's a draft article on this topic, Draft:Formation of Joe Biden's Cabinet -- 65.92.244.236 ( talk) 06:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
God I hate this stupid WP:SPECULATION. Just because some talking head likes to make stuff up doesn't mean we are mandated to put it in the encyclopedia. There will be sources about who Biden is legitimately talking to and such, but we shouldn't be immortalizing what agenda anonymous insiders are pushing or what people paid per click think is a possible hypothetical. People can read Politico themselves if they want, and we can link to it, but we shouldn't be making tables with people like its gospel. Reywas92 Talk 22:40, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
There's no reason to keep this speculation in perpetuity once people are nominated (especially not in this format). Cabinet of Donald Trump and this article should list a few of the top contenders (Biden's legitimate finalists who are likely to be sourced/those with multiple in-depth coverage rather than mere suggestions and possibilities) in prose in the relevant sections, rather than having huge tables with photos and current positions making for an unnecessarily long page of the media's drivel. Reywas92 Talk 20:35, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
If Biden releases a shortlist of candidates, those individuals can certainly be included. With Cabinet of Donald Trump, a list of contenders was created six days after Trump won the 2016 election. Granted, the inclusion of this information did spark some light contention, as indicated by the article's archived talk page. 2020 Democratic Party vice presidential candidate selection also remains an article, demonstrating that a degree of speculation for these types of articles are tolerated to a certain extent. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 18:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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Apparently, I'm not able to properly format him the Cabinet level officials section. InsulinRS ( talk) 19:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to those who helped format it better. InsulinRS ( talk) 20:50, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
This November 11 article by the New York Times states that Biden's team and Bernie's camp are actively engaged in talks for a post for Bernie in the cabinet: [1] In the past, a number of runner-ups in the primaries have become cabinet members, including John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and, in fact, Joe Biden himself, so it's far from unlikely to happen. Bernie's own article even says he's been "named a candidate for Secretary of Labor".
So, why can't we mention that Bernie is in talks with Biden's team for a potential cabinet post? It's not just speculation complained about on this talkpage before, where people only said they wanted a post but there was no confirmation of actual talks with Biden's team. I remember Bernie was named as a potential candidate in this article before, but it seems he's since been written out for some reason. -- 2003:DA:CF17:EF00:9103:95A4:7C8A:1BEC ( talk) 18:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Usually tables have one row per entry, but our has two. Could anyone make that more obvious visually somehow? Feoffer ( talk) 19:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, but I completely disagree with the change. The table is now much more difficult to read with one entry per row with the heavy amount of scrolling required to navigate. I propose a revert. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 01:32, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
The Biden campaign has announced that (1) the CEA chair will be in the cabinet and (2) the nominee for CEA chair is Cecilia Rouse. It seems like Rouse should be added to this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meiselface ( talk • contribs) 21:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Now that Biden has named a few sub-Cabinet appointees (NSA, surgeon general, many White House staffers, etc.), I've recreated Political appointments by Joe Biden, which could use some help filling in beyond those I've gotten so far. Political appointments by Donald Trump and Executive appointments by Donald Trump can be used as models, though for as much of a stickler I am for consistency, it need not be formatted exactly the same. (Namely I'd prefer to avoid the overuse of WP:COLOR – once confirmed a white background is better than drenching the page in fluorescent green.) {main} links to the departments are currently <!-hidden-> so put everyone in the main article first, then move minor offices there when this gets big. Reywas92 Talk 08:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Ok, so I think we should have a new type of category for positions that haven't been announced yet, but have been reported, such as Fudge at HUD and Vilsack at USDA. Thoughts? BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 23:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
I have seen a few differ variations. We need to figure out which one works the best and is professional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aricmfergie ( talk • contribs) 22:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Why is the table so wide? What can be done to fix it? ( Aricmfergie ( talk) 05:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC))
I don't understand it. Here we're saying the individuals are nominated, even though Biden hasn't taken office yet. But, over at the Antony Blinken article's infobox, we've got Presumptive nominee. Which is it? GoodDay ( talk) 21:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Why are there two entries in the details list for this position? Someone may probably have overlooked this fact and could they please rectify it. Thanks. Abul Bakhtiar ( talk) 07:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
How about a graph with the age diversity. (e.i. Silent Generation, Baby boomers, Generation X, Millennials, etc.) ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:4031:F900:6026:B9B7:BE9:EDA4 ( talk) 08:16, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Why is Granholm being added to the article, when Biden hasn't announced her as his Secy of Education pick, yet? GoodDay ( talk) 12:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Muboshgu, with respect, my interpretation of WP:CRYSTAL is that it only applies to unverified/unverifiable speculation. This is not the case here. It has been widely reported by reliable sources that Biden has chosen Granholm as Secretary of Energy. Sdrqaz ( talk) 18:04, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
President-elect Joe Biden will pick former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm to run the Energy Department. This is different to a member of Congress making a prediction that Granholm will be chosen, like here, where Rep. Clyburn predicted that Rep. Fudge would be nominated to the Cabinet. These are two different situations. Sdrqaz ( talk) 18:15, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
according to sources close to the transition, but this doesn't have that. So we're left wondering what their sourcing is. Or at least I am. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:20, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm in favor of the status quo: Have them as the nominee, put have TBA where the announcement date is, and then have a citation to where it is referenced. I strongly oppose getting rid of them until they are confirmed. However, I think that a good compromise might be to create a new distinction for Cabinet nominees that, while their nomination has been reported, hasn't been announcement by the Biden team. For the infobox on their pages, I'm in favor of keeping them as the nominee, and I strongly oppose not showing that in the infobox, although a good compromise would be to have them shown as the presumptive nominee where we would put nominee. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 18:41, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I wanted to address this topic fully. On the page Presidential transition of Joe Biden, we have simply been putting "reported [X date]" when a credible source confirms the cabinet selection. That serves a placeholder until the official announcement is made. I would advocate for the same here. I would also ask users to refrain from engaging in revert wars. Cliffmore ( talk) 20:35, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
This section smacks of WP:OR to me. Do any WP:RS include pie charts or something analogous allocating nominees by race or sexual orientation? AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 23:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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I can't edit the page anymore, so if anyone who can sees this, I'd like to politely ask them to un-italicize "Speculated: TBA" under "Secretary of Education" in the "Cabinet Members" section under "Announced Nominees" and just change it to "TBA", which is how we usually do it for nominees that have reported, but not announced. In the "Secretary of Education" section under "Nominated candidates for Cabinet positions", please remove "Possible nominees" and put the information for Miguel Cardona. Thanks. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 16:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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In the diversity section, there is a discussion of the amount of Jewish nominees without a comparison to other religious representation within the Biden administration. Biden claims his cabinet will be the most diverse in the nation's history. Diversity would include religious diversity, especially since the US has been predominately led by individuals of Christian faith. To promote the diversity of his Cabinet, we should also depict the diversity (or lack thereof) of his Cabinet. It would also be nice to be able to compare the cabinet's diversity to other branches of government (such as the fact that the Supreme Court has transitioned from being primarily Protestant to being primarily Catholic but has also seen an increase in the number of Jewish Justices).
Can we get a pie chart showing the various religious affiliations similar to what we have for gender, race, and orientation? 70.88.154.249 ( talk) 20:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
In the same section, the last sentence reads "Some have also made note that a number of the Cabinet choices so far have been ethnically Jewish: Blinken, Haines, Klain, Mayorkas and Yellen." By placing this sentence in a paragraph about a lack of sufficient diversity mentioned by some commentators, the implication is that this reflects a lack of diversity. This statement is original research and unsupported by the two linked sources. One of the sources is an article from 2003 about John Kerry and entirely irrelevant to this article. The other article mentions that these five individuals are Jewish, but doesn't suggest that this is a lack of diversity, nor does it support the statement that "some" (which implies more than one person) have "made note" of this fact. I would recommend deleting the sentence and the two linked sources. (I can’t do so because I don’t have enough edits.) -- Toby ( talk) 19:50, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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Secretary of Education BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 19:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
In the topmost table, Linda Thomas-Greenfield and John Kerry have been explicitly mentioned as Former Asst. Secretary of State for African Affairs & Former Secretary of State respectively. However, Tom Vilsack is mentioned as just a Former Secretary whereas Antony Blinken & Alejandro Mayorkas are mentioned as just Former Deputy Secretary and not what Department they had served. I think that this may lead to the lack uniformity in the Article. I would suggest to completely scrap the department's name for all designees or add the same for the aforementioned three designees. Thank You. CX Zoom ( talk) 17:56, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Nevermore27, the problem with retaining the titles for former officeholders is that it simply isn't accurate. Putting titles (like "Gov. Jennifer Granholm") when they are quite a few years out of office doesn't make much sense. The comparison with Austin does not hold up either, because it is unequivocally clear from the title that he is retired. As an aside, I'd rather that we removed titles for all the officeholders (former or incumbent) in the lower tables except for Austin and Cardona. Individuals' previous offices have been made clear in the 'background' section of their table and it is not necessary to repeat that information again. For example, Haaland has "Rep." before her name and has "U.S. Representative" in 'background' too. This is contrasted with Austin and Cardona, who do not have that information in 'background'.
Sdrqaz ( talk) 13:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Note: I am aware of Woko Sapien's removing titles from the lower tables and I find that perfectly acceptable. Sdrqaz ( talk) 15:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
[t]he comparison with Austin does not hold up either, because it is unequivocally clear from the title that he is retired.Austin had 'retired general' before his name; Granholm had 'governor' (not former governor). There is a difference. Granholm does not retain a 'right' to be called 'governor', as she is out of office. It would just be a courtesy to call her 'governor', just as it is a courtesy to call Barack Obama 'President Obama'. Sdrqaz ( talk) 21:26, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
I put in note that the vice presidency isn't always an elective office. Though, still the president can't fire the vice president. GoodDay ( talk) 22:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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Garland was officially announced today, on the 7th, so please change that. Furthermore, get rid of the links in front of his name. Also, he is a resident of Bethesda, Maryland, not D.C., so that should be changed. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 15:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
links in front of his namewere the references following his name. Sdrqaz ( talk) 16:44, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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Walsh and Raimondo haven't been announced, so put "TBA" where their dates for announcement are. Furthermore, add sources after their names. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 19:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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Adding Isabel Guzman as the Administrator of the Small Business Administration Justarandomnamejake ( talk) 21:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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Please add photo of Mr Michael J. Regan https://deq.nc.gov/about/leadership/michael-s-regan Mirage1980 ( talk) 01:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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Remove the link next to Walash's date of announcement. Also, change "Reported" for SBA to "Announced". BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 01:31, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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Raimondo, Walsh, and Guzman were all announced on the 7th, not the 8th. Please fix that. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 17:49, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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Biden has nominated William Burns as the CIA director https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/william-burns-cia-director-nomination/index.html Justarandomnamejake ( talk) 12:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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Correct Eric Lander's birthday/age from "December 11, 1943 (age 77)" to "February 3, 1957 (age 63)" Vsiegel ( talk) 17:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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I thought Biden was the 46th president, not the 47th as stated in his block in the article about his cabinet 173.251.91.10 ( talk) 11:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
The votes by each Senator has been released on https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=117&session=1&vote=00005 and the table on his confirmation can now be updated. Negrong502 ( talk) 16:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Could somebody with editing rights please correct the voting record re confirmation of J. Yellin? Kevin Cramer (R-ND) was the 15th vote in opposition to her nomination. At this time, he is listed as voting in favour of her appointment.-- Mrodowicz ( talk) 04:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I can't see that it's particularly relevant, and is also OR-adjacent ( Neera Tanden, for instance, hasn't lived in MA for years). AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 17:39, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Any more takers on this one? Obviously not very important, but I think it's silly to have states in the table. Plus, what's the criterion? Where they were born? Where they've lived for most of their life? Where they currently live? Where they've held elected office? AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 18:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
I would also like to add that home states have historically been very important when selecting a cabinet, as the president would typically make geographic diversity a priority within their cabinet, and so selecting cabinet members from a variety of states was sought out. [1] [2] Now I think the problem here though is that people are assuming what state an individual comes from based on speculation. Unless the information is obvious (ie., Marcia Fudge was born in Ohio, represents Ohio in Congress, and legally must have a residence in Ohio), we don't necessarily know what state is being reported to the Senate for each nominee. I definitely do not think states should be left out entirely, but there needs to be some sort of method we use to determine what state each individual is being reported as being from. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:01, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I have question. This article is written in American English, which is obiviously have a different spelling than British/Commonwealth counterparts (color instead colour, center instead centre, program instead programme, traveled instead travelled, etc). But in the article the page has tagged (EngvarB/date=November 2020), which give an impression that this article should be written according to Queen English conventions apart from of course ize which is also acceptable in the British Commonwealth thought it is rarely used than ise. Why not tagged it as "EngvarA" in the article, which have a similar matter as (Use American English) (ex. EngvarA/date=December 2020) ? 182.1.233.124 ( talk) 08:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to help out by adding information about what committees cabinet members and cabinet-level officials go before to receive senate confirmation; specifically the DNI (Avril Haines), the Trade Representative (Katherine Tai), the Director of the CIA (TBA), Administrator of the EPA (Michael S. Regan), Director of OMB (Neera Tanden), the US Ambassador to the UN (Linda Thomas-Greenfield) and the Chair of the CEA (Cecilia Rouse).
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I noticed that Miguel Cardona (Biden's pick for Secretary of Education) and Michael S. Regan (Biden's pick for Administrator of the EPA) do not have pictures in their panels. Is this because they do not have official government portraits? Masterofpresidents ( talk) 20:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
The criticism seems incongruous with the rest of the page: the page has avoided political analysis like the plague and should, in my opinion, continue to do so. In trying to address WP:NPOV concerns, it seems to have inadvertently made them worse. It is exclusively criticism and may be a violation of WP:UNDUE.
Sdrqaz ( talk) 17:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
Some potential sources follow. Although, as I've looked through these, it's hard for me to figure what we'd say neutrally except: "Biden has said he wants to build a diverse cabinet. Some people think he hasn't done enough." I'm almost inclined just to let the list of nominees speak for itself and let people judge for themselves what they say about diversity/Biden's priorities. AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 05:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Biden has appointed ZERO muslim american in his administration and this is a discrimination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.140.48 ( talk) 12:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Joe Biden has announced that his cabinet is complete ( https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1348351402624524288?s=20) which implies he's demoting CIA Director from a cabinet-level position. I haven't seen official sources make this connection though so I guess that's WP:OR but just a heads-up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSummoningDark ( talk • contribs) 22:07, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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For Eric Lander's Template on the Cabinet of Joe Biden, the table is blue but he doesnt need senate consent so it should be grey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phillypaboy123 ( talk • contribs) 04:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
It's under the "newly advanced to cabinet level" when it shouldn't be. The UN Ambassador is cabinet level in under Trump. Sneakycrown ( talk) 05:54, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
For the nominees that were holding office when their nominations were announced but had to resign due to assuming their "new" offices, should they be listed as being "former office" or just "office"? To give an example, Kamala Harris resigned from the Senate today and her title was subsequently amended to "former senator". Comparable cases would include Harris herself, Garland, Haaland, Raimondo, Walsh, Becerra, Fudge, Cardona et al. Sdrqaz ( talk) 23:51, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
So far, the only Senate confirmation vote has been for Avril Haines (as of 22 January 2021). All other lists of how senators voted are correctly filled with "TBD" on the table. Yet on Walsh's votes for Sec. of Labor, Thom Tillis, Sheldon Whitehouse, Tim Scott, and Bill Hagerty already have results. Does anyone know why this is so? Even if those Senators have already announced previous support or object or otherwise, the vote hasn't been made (or even scheduled for that matter), so there shouldn't be anything other than "TBD" as nothing official has occurred for his confirmation. Negrong502 ( talk) 14:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Where are we getting Kerry being in Cabinet? Nothing indicates that on the official annoucement, which makes an explicit point to say Linda Thomas-Greenfield is elevated to Cabinet; it only says he joins the NSC. We don't say Jake Sullivan is in Cabinet based off of this, so why did people get the sense Kerry is? Politico says today, "Former Sen. JOHN KERRY, Biden’s climate envoy, isn’t considered part of his Cabinet." Therequiembellishere ( talk) 02:08, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
If it has been agreed that it was mistakenly listed as a cabinet level position, then we should probably remove the climate envoys "cabinet level" label on its page. Negrong502 ( talk) 14:23, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
CNN reports in their current tally of cabinet confirmations that Kerry will be included/that climate envoy will be a cabinet position [1]. So it seems it is still up in the air Voncken1996 ( talk) 13:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
So... we aren't gonna wait until confirmed cabinet members are sworn in, before we declare them in position? GoodDay ( talk) 23:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
[o]nce the appointee is given the commission and sworn in, he or she has full authority to carry out the responsibilities of the office.Sdrqaz ( talk) 01:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Are there any confirmed cabinet members who have yet to assume office — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.169.164.37 ( talk) 11:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I wanted to let you know that in the table
Cabinet_of_Joe_Biden#Cabinet_members the background color of Janet Yellen (style="background:white;"
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Cabinet members table for Blinken & Austin and
Cabinet-level officials table for Haines who have the default table background color). Yellen has also assumed office but has the different background color. Someone please fix it.
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Mayorkas is from California, not D.C. Please fix that. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 14:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
The Senate has voted to confirm Pete Puttigieg as the next Secretary of Transportation, 86-13. Below is how each Senator voted, as witnessed on the Senate roll call livestream on Senate.gov Baldwin - Aye Barrasso - Aye Bennet - Aye Blackburn - Nay Blumenthal - Aye Blunt - Aye Booker - Aye Boozman - Aye Braun - Aye Brown - Aye Burr - Aye Cantwell - Aye Capito - Aye Cardin - Aye Carper - Aye Casey - Aye Cassidy - Nay Collins - Aye Coons - Aye Cornyn - Aye Cortez Masto - Aye Cotton - Nay Cramer - Aye Crapo - Aye Cruz - Nay Daines - Aye Duckworth - Aye Durbin - Aye Ernst - Aye Feinstein - Aye Fischer - Aye Gillibrand - Aye Graham - Aye Grassley - Aye Hagerty - Nay Hassan - Aye Hawley - Nay Heinrich - Aye Hickenlooper - Aye Hirono - Aye Hoeven - Aye Hyde-Smith - Aye Inhofe - Aye Johnson - Aye Kaine - Aye Kelly - Aye Kennedy - Aye King - Aye Klobuchar - Aye Lankford - Nay Leahy - Aye Lee - Aye Lujan - Aye Lummis - Aye Manchin - Aye Markey - Aye Marshall - Nay McConnell - Aye Menendez - Aye Merkley - Aye Moran - Aye Murkowski - Aye Murphy - Aye Murray - Aye Ossoff - Aye Padilla - Aye Paul - Aye Peters - Aye Portman - Aye Reed - Aye Risch - Aye Romney - Aye Rosen - Aye Rounds - Aye Rubio - Nay Sanders - Aye Sasse - Aye Schatz - Aye Schumer - Aye Scott, Florida - Nay Scott, South Carolina - Nay Shaheen - Aye Shelby - Nay Sinema - Aye Smith - Aye Stabenow - Aye Sullivan - Aye Tester - Aye Thune - Aye Tillis - Aye Toomey - Not Voting Tuberville - Nay Van Hollen - Aye Warner - Aye Warnock - Aye Warren - Aye Whitehouse - Aye Wicker - Aye Wyden - Aye Young - Aye Negrong502 ( talk) 18:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
In the Senate confirmation section it lists Yes, Nay, and No Vote by each Senator. While I know the difference between a “no vote” and a “nay,” could it be confusing to others? Should we change “No Vote” to “Did not vote” or is this a technical parliamentary procedure term? If we can’t change it, perhaps we could clarify it? Thoughts? - TenorTwelve ( talk) 20:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
I accidentally found this nifty article —> [6] and I thought I should de-lurk because you don't have any "actings" listed and that's all Trump had.
Central Intelligence Agency, David Cohen
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Dave Uejio
U.S. Department of Agriculture, Kevin Shea
Department of Commerce, Wynn Coggins
Department of Defense, David Norquist
Department of Education, Phil Rosenfelt
Department of Energy, David Huizenga
Department of Health and Human Services, Norris Cochran
Department of Homeland Security, David Pekoske
Department of Housing and Urban Development, Matt Ammonn
Department of Interior, Scott de la Vega
Department of Justice, Monty Wilkinson
Department of Labor, Al Stewart
Department of State, Dan Smith
Department of Transportation, Lana Hurdle
Department of Treasury, Andy Baukol
Department of Veterans Affairs, Dat Tran
Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Lora Shiao
Environmental Protection Agency, Jane Nishida
General Services Administration, Katy Kale
National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Steve Jurczyk
National Endowment for the Arts, Ann Eilers
National Endowment for the Humanities, Adam Wolfson
Office of Management and Budget, Rob Fairweather
Office of National Drug Control Policy, Regina LaBelle
Office of Personnel Management, Kathy McGettigan
Peace Corps, Carol Spahn
Small Business Administration, Tami Perriello
Social Security Administration, Andrew Saul
U.S. Agency for Global Media, Kelu Chao
U.S. Agency for International Development, Gloria Steele
U.S. International Development Finance Corporation, Dev Jagadesan
U.S. Mission to the United Nations, Rich Mills
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FYI, there's a draft article on this topic, Draft:Formation of Joe Biden's Cabinet -- 65.92.244.236 ( talk) 06:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
God I hate this stupid WP:SPECULATION. Just because some talking head likes to make stuff up doesn't mean we are mandated to put it in the encyclopedia. There will be sources about who Biden is legitimately talking to and such, but we shouldn't be immortalizing what agenda anonymous insiders are pushing or what people paid per click think is a possible hypothetical. People can read Politico themselves if they want, and we can link to it, but we shouldn't be making tables with people like its gospel. Reywas92 Talk 22:40, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
There's no reason to keep this speculation in perpetuity once people are nominated (especially not in this format). Cabinet of Donald Trump and this article should list a few of the top contenders (Biden's legitimate finalists who are likely to be sourced/those with multiple in-depth coverage rather than mere suggestions and possibilities) in prose in the relevant sections, rather than having huge tables with photos and current positions making for an unnecessarily long page of the media's drivel. Reywas92 Talk 20:35, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
If Biden releases a shortlist of candidates, those individuals can certainly be included. With Cabinet of Donald Trump, a list of contenders was created six days after Trump won the 2016 election. Granted, the inclusion of this information did spark some light contention, as indicated by the article's archived talk page. 2020 Democratic Party vice presidential candidate selection also remains an article, demonstrating that a degree of speculation for these types of articles are tolerated to a certain extent. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 18:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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Apparently, I'm not able to properly format him the Cabinet level officials section. InsulinRS ( talk) 19:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks to those who helped format it better. InsulinRS ( talk) 20:50, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
This November 11 article by the New York Times states that Biden's team and Bernie's camp are actively engaged in talks for a post for Bernie in the cabinet: [1] In the past, a number of runner-ups in the primaries have become cabinet members, including John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and, in fact, Joe Biden himself, so it's far from unlikely to happen. Bernie's own article even says he's been "named a candidate for Secretary of Labor".
So, why can't we mention that Bernie is in talks with Biden's team for a potential cabinet post? It's not just speculation complained about on this talkpage before, where people only said they wanted a post but there was no confirmation of actual talks with Biden's team. I remember Bernie was named as a potential candidate in this article before, but it seems he's since been written out for some reason. -- 2003:DA:CF17:EF00:9103:95A4:7C8A:1BEC ( talk) 18:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Usually tables have one row per entry, but our has two. Could anyone make that more obvious visually somehow? Feoffer ( talk) 19:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, but I completely disagree with the change. The table is now much more difficult to read with one entry per row with the heavy amount of scrolling required to navigate. I propose a revert. Dobbyelf62 ( talk) 01:32, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
The Biden campaign has announced that (1) the CEA chair will be in the cabinet and (2) the nominee for CEA chair is Cecilia Rouse. It seems like Rouse should be added to this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meiselface ( talk • contribs) 21:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Now that Biden has named a few sub-Cabinet appointees (NSA, surgeon general, many White House staffers, etc.), I've recreated Political appointments by Joe Biden, which could use some help filling in beyond those I've gotten so far. Political appointments by Donald Trump and Executive appointments by Donald Trump can be used as models, though for as much of a stickler I am for consistency, it need not be formatted exactly the same. (Namely I'd prefer to avoid the overuse of WP:COLOR – once confirmed a white background is better than drenching the page in fluorescent green.) {main} links to the departments are currently <!-hidden-> so put everyone in the main article first, then move minor offices there when this gets big. Reywas92 Talk 08:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Ok, so I think we should have a new type of category for positions that haven't been announced yet, but have been reported, such as Fudge at HUD and Vilsack at USDA. Thoughts? BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 23:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
I have seen a few differ variations. We need to figure out which one works the best and is professional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aricmfergie ( talk • contribs) 22:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Why is the table so wide? What can be done to fix it? ( Aricmfergie ( talk) 05:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC))
I don't understand it. Here we're saying the individuals are nominated, even though Biden hasn't taken office yet. But, over at the Antony Blinken article's infobox, we've got Presumptive nominee. Which is it? GoodDay ( talk) 21:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Why are there two entries in the details list for this position? Someone may probably have overlooked this fact and could they please rectify it. Thanks. Abul Bakhtiar ( talk) 07:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
How about a graph with the age diversity. (e.i. Silent Generation, Baby boomers, Generation X, Millennials, etc.) ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:4031:F900:6026:B9B7:BE9:EDA4 ( talk) 08:16, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Why is Granholm being added to the article, when Biden hasn't announced her as his Secy of Education pick, yet? GoodDay ( talk) 12:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Muboshgu, with respect, my interpretation of WP:CRYSTAL is that it only applies to unverified/unverifiable speculation. This is not the case here. It has been widely reported by reliable sources that Biden has chosen Granholm as Secretary of Energy. Sdrqaz ( talk) 18:04, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
President-elect Joe Biden will pick former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm to run the Energy Department. This is different to a member of Congress making a prediction that Granholm will be chosen, like here, where Rep. Clyburn predicted that Rep. Fudge would be nominated to the Cabinet. These are two different situations. Sdrqaz ( talk) 18:15, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
according to sources close to the transition, but this doesn't have that. So we're left wondering what their sourcing is. Or at least I am. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:20, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm in favor of the status quo: Have them as the nominee, put have TBA where the announcement date is, and then have a citation to where it is referenced. I strongly oppose getting rid of them until they are confirmed. However, I think that a good compromise might be to create a new distinction for Cabinet nominees that, while their nomination has been reported, hasn't been announcement by the Biden team. For the infobox on their pages, I'm in favor of keeping them as the nominee, and I strongly oppose not showing that in the infobox, although a good compromise would be to have them shown as the presumptive nominee where we would put nominee. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 18:41, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I wanted to address this topic fully. On the page Presidential transition of Joe Biden, we have simply been putting "reported [X date]" when a credible source confirms the cabinet selection. That serves a placeholder until the official announcement is made. I would advocate for the same here. I would also ask users to refrain from engaging in revert wars. Cliffmore ( talk) 20:35, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
This section smacks of WP:OR to me. Do any WP:RS include pie charts or something analogous allocating nominees by race or sexual orientation? AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 23:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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I can't edit the page anymore, so if anyone who can sees this, I'd like to politely ask them to un-italicize "Speculated: TBA" under "Secretary of Education" in the "Cabinet Members" section under "Announced Nominees" and just change it to "TBA", which is how we usually do it for nominees that have reported, but not announced. In the "Secretary of Education" section under "Nominated candidates for Cabinet positions", please remove "Possible nominees" and put the information for Miguel Cardona. Thanks. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 16:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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In the diversity section, there is a discussion of the amount of Jewish nominees without a comparison to other religious representation within the Biden administration. Biden claims his cabinet will be the most diverse in the nation's history. Diversity would include religious diversity, especially since the US has been predominately led by individuals of Christian faith. To promote the diversity of his Cabinet, we should also depict the diversity (or lack thereof) of his Cabinet. It would also be nice to be able to compare the cabinet's diversity to other branches of government (such as the fact that the Supreme Court has transitioned from being primarily Protestant to being primarily Catholic but has also seen an increase in the number of Jewish Justices).
Can we get a pie chart showing the various religious affiliations similar to what we have for gender, race, and orientation? 70.88.154.249 ( talk) 20:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
In the same section, the last sentence reads "Some have also made note that a number of the Cabinet choices so far have been ethnically Jewish: Blinken, Haines, Klain, Mayorkas and Yellen." By placing this sentence in a paragraph about a lack of sufficient diversity mentioned by some commentators, the implication is that this reflects a lack of diversity. This statement is original research and unsupported by the two linked sources. One of the sources is an article from 2003 about John Kerry and entirely irrelevant to this article. The other article mentions that these five individuals are Jewish, but doesn't suggest that this is a lack of diversity, nor does it support the statement that "some" (which implies more than one person) have "made note" of this fact. I would recommend deleting the sentence and the two linked sources. (I can’t do so because I don’t have enough edits.) -- Toby ( talk) 19:50, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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Secretary of Education BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 19:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
In the topmost table, Linda Thomas-Greenfield and John Kerry have been explicitly mentioned as Former Asst. Secretary of State for African Affairs & Former Secretary of State respectively. However, Tom Vilsack is mentioned as just a Former Secretary whereas Antony Blinken & Alejandro Mayorkas are mentioned as just Former Deputy Secretary and not what Department they had served. I think that this may lead to the lack uniformity in the Article. I would suggest to completely scrap the department's name for all designees or add the same for the aforementioned three designees. Thank You. CX Zoom ( talk) 17:56, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Nevermore27, the problem with retaining the titles for former officeholders is that it simply isn't accurate. Putting titles (like "Gov. Jennifer Granholm") when they are quite a few years out of office doesn't make much sense. The comparison with Austin does not hold up either, because it is unequivocally clear from the title that he is retired. As an aside, I'd rather that we removed titles for all the officeholders (former or incumbent) in the lower tables except for Austin and Cardona. Individuals' previous offices have been made clear in the 'background' section of their table and it is not necessary to repeat that information again. For example, Haaland has "Rep." before her name and has "U.S. Representative" in 'background' too. This is contrasted with Austin and Cardona, who do not have that information in 'background'.
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Note: I am aware of Woko Sapien's removing titles from the lower tables and I find that perfectly acceptable. Sdrqaz ( talk) 15:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
[t]he comparison with Austin does not hold up either, because it is unequivocally clear from the title that he is retired.Austin had 'retired general' before his name; Granholm had 'governor' (not former governor). There is a difference. Granholm does not retain a 'right' to be called 'governor', as she is out of office. It would just be a courtesy to call her 'governor', just as it is a courtesy to call Barack Obama 'President Obama'. Sdrqaz ( talk) 21:26, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
I put in note that the vice presidency isn't always an elective office. Though, still the president can't fire the vice president. GoodDay ( talk) 22:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
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Garland was officially announced today, on the 7th, so please change that. Furthermore, get rid of the links in front of his name. Also, he is a resident of Bethesda, Maryland, not D.C., so that should be changed. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 15:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
links in front of his namewere the references following his name. Sdrqaz ( talk) 16:44, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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Walsh and Raimondo haven't been announced, so put "TBA" where their dates for announcement are. Furthermore, add sources after their names. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 19:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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Adding Isabel Guzman as the Administrator of the Small Business Administration Justarandomnamejake ( talk) 21:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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Please add photo of Mr Michael J. Regan https://deq.nc.gov/about/leadership/michael-s-regan Mirage1980 ( talk) 01:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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Remove the link next to Walash's date of announcement. Also, change "Reported" for SBA to "Announced". BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 01:31, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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Raimondo, Walsh, and Guzman were all announced on the 7th, not the 8th. Please fix that. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 17:49, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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Biden has nominated William Burns as the CIA director https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/william-burns-cia-director-nomination/index.html Justarandomnamejake ( talk) 12:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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Correct Eric Lander's birthday/age from "December 11, 1943 (age 77)" to "February 3, 1957 (age 63)" Vsiegel ( talk) 17:26, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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I thought Biden was the 46th president, not the 47th as stated in his block in the article about his cabinet 173.251.91.10 ( talk) 11:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
The votes by each Senator has been released on https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=117&session=1&vote=00005 and the table on his confirmation can now be updated. Negrong502 ( talk) 16:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Could somebody with editing rights please correct the voting record re confirmation of J. Yellin? Kevin Cramer (R-ND) was the 15th vote in opposition to her nomination. At this time, he is listed as voting in favour of her appointment.-- Mrodowicz ( talk) 04:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
I can't see that it's particularly relevant, and is also OR-adjacent ( Neera Tanden, for instance, hasn't lived in MA for years). AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 17:39, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Any more takers on this one? Obviously not very important, but I think it's silly to have states in the table. Plus, what's the criterion? Where they were born? Where they've lived for most of their life? Where they currently live? Where they've held elected office? AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 18:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
I would also like to add that home states have historically been very important when selecting a cabinet, as the president would typically make geographic diversity a priority within their cabinet, and so selecting cabinet members from a variety of states was sought out. [1] [2] Now I think the problem here though is that people are assuming what state an individual comes from based on speculation. Unless the information is obvious (ie., Marcia Fudge was born in Ohio, represents Ohio in Congress, and legally must have a residence in Ohio), we don't necessarily know what state is being reported to the Senate for each nominee. I definitely do not think states should be left out entirely, but there needs to be some sort of method we use to determine what state each individual is being reported as being from. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:01, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I have question. This article is written in American English, which is obiviously have a different spelling than British/Commonwealth counterparts (color instead colour, center instead centre, program instead programme, traveled instead travelled, etc). But in the article the page has tagged (EngvarB/date=November 2020), which give an impression that this article should be written according to Queen English conventions apart from of course ize which is also acceptable in the British Commonwealth thought it is rarely used than ise. Why not tagged it as "EngvarA" in the article, which have a similar matter as (Use American English) (ex. EngvarA/date=December 2020) ? 182.1.233.124 ( talk) 08:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to help out by adding information about what committees cabinet members and cabinet-level officials go before to receive senate confirmation; specifically the DNI (Avril Haines), the Trade Representative (Katherine Tai), the Director of the CIA (TBA), Administrator of the EPA (Michael S. Regan), Director of OMB (Neera Tanden), the US Ambassador to the UN (Linda Thomas-Greenfield) and the Chair of the CEA (Cecilia Rouse).
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I noticed that Miguel Cardona (Biden's pick for Secretary of Education) and Michael S. Regan (Biden's pick for Administrator of the EPA) do not have pictures in their panels. Is this because they do not have official government portraits? Masterofpresidents ( talk) 20:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
The criticism seems incongruous with the rest of the page: the page has avoided political analysis like the plague and should, in my opinion, continue to do so. In trying to address WP:NPOV concerns, it seems to have inadvertently made them worse. It is exclusively criticism and may be a violation of WP:UNDUE.
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Some potential sources follow. Although, as I've looked through these, it's hard for me to figure what we'd say neutrally except: "Biden has said he wants to build a diverse cabinet. Some people think he hasn't done enough." I'm almost inclined just to let the list of nominees speak for itself and let people judge for themselves what they say about diversity/Biden's priorities. AleatoryPonderings ( ???) ( !!!) 05:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Biden has appointed ZERO muslim american in his administration and this is a discrimination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.173.140.48 ( talk) 12:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Joe Biden has announced that his cabinet is complete ( https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1348351402624524288?s=20) which implies he's demoting CIA Director from a cabinet-level position. I haven't seen official sources make this connection though so I guess that's WP:OR but just a heads-up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheSummoningDark ( talk • contribs) 22:07, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
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For Eric Lander's Template on the Cabinet of Joe Biden, the table is blue but he doesnt need senate consent so it should be grey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phillypaboy123 ( talk • contribs) 04:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
It's under the "newly advanced to cabinet level" when it shouldn't be. The UN Ambassador is cabinet level in under Trump. Sneakycrown ( talk) 05:54, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
For the nominees that were holding office when their nominations were announced but had to resign due to assuming their "new" offices, should they be listed as being "former office" or just "office"? To give an example, Kamala Harris resigned from the Senate today and her title was subsequently amended to "former senator". Comparable cases would include Harris herself, Garland, Haaland, Raimondo, Walsh, Becerra, Fudge, Cardona et al. Sdrqaz ( talk) 23:51, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
So far, the only Senate confirmation vote has been for Avril Haines (as of 22 January 2021). All other lists of how senators voted are correctly filled with "TBD" on the table. Yet on Walsh's votes for Sec. of Labor, Thom Tillis, Sheldon Whitehouse, Tim Scott, and Bill Hagerty already have results. Does anyone know why this is so? Even if those Senators have already announced previous support or object or otherwise, the vote hasn't been made (or even scheduled for that matter), so there shouldn't be anything other than "TBD" as nothing official has occurred for his confirmation. Negrong502 ( talk) 14:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Where are we getting Kerry being in Cabinet? Nothing indicates that on the official annoucement, which makes an explicit point to say Linda Thomas-Greenfield is elevated to Cabinet; it only says he joins the NSC. We don't say Jake Sullivan is in Cabinet based off of this, so why did people get the sense Kerry is? Politico says today, "Former Sen. JOHN KERRY, Biden’s climate envoy, isn’t considered part of his Cabinet." Therequiembellishere ( talk) 02:08, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
If it has been agreed that it was mistakenly listed as a cabinet level position, then we should probably remove the climate envoys "cabinet level" label on its page. Negrong502 ( talk) 14:23, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
CNN reports in their current tally of cabinet confirmations that Kerry will be included/that climate envoy will be a cabinet position [1]. So it seems it is still up in the air Voncken1996 ( talk) 13:14, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
So... we aren't gonna wait until confirmed cabinet members are sworn in, before we declare them in position? GoodDay ( talk) 23:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
[o]nce the appointee is given the commission and sworn in, he or she has full authority to carry out the responsibilities of the office.Sdrqaz ( talk) 01:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Are there any confirmed cabinet members who have yet to assume office — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.169.164.37 ( talk) 11:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I wanted to let you know that in the table
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Cabinet members table for Blinken & Austin and
Cabinet-level officials table for Haines who have the default table background color). Yellen has also assumed office but has the different background color. Someone please fix it.
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Mayorkas is from California, not D.C. Please fix that. BazingaFountain42 ( talk) 14:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
The Senate has voted to confirm Pete Puttigieg as the next Secretary of Transportation, 86-13. Below is how each Senator voted, as witnessed on the Senate roll call livestream on Senate.gov Baldwin - Aye Barrasso - Aye Bennet - Aye Blackburn - Nay Blumenthal - Aye Blunt - Aye Booker - Aye Boozman - Aye Braun - Aye Brown - Aye Burr - Aye Cantwell - Aye Capito - Aye Cardin - Aye Carper - Aye Casey - Aye Cassidy - Nay Collins - Aye Coons - Aye Cornyn - Aye Cortez Masto - Aye Cotton - Nay Cramer - Aye Crapo - Aye Cruz - Nay Daines - Aye Duckworth - Aye Durbin - Aye Ernst - Aye Feinstein - Aye Fischer - Aye Gillibrand - Aye Graham - Aye Grassley - Aye Hagerty - Nay Hassan - Aye Hawley - Nay Heinrich - Aye Hickenlooper - Aye Hirono - Aye Hoeven - Aye Hyde-Smith - Aye Inhofe - Aye Johnson - Aye Kaine - Aye Kelly - Aye Kennedy - Aye King - Aye Klobuchar - Aye Lankford - Nay Leahy - Aye Lee - Aye Lujan - Aye Lummis - Aye Manchin - Aye Markey - Aye Marshall - Nay McConnell - Aye Menendez - Aye Merkley - Aye Moran - Aye Murkowski - Aye Murphy - Aye Murray - Aye Ossoff - Aye Padilla - Aye Paul - Aye Peters - Aye Portman - Aye Reed - Aye Risch - Aye Romney - Aye Rosen - Aye Rounds - Aye Rubio - Nay Sanders - Aye Sasse - Aye Schatz - Aye Schumer - Aye Scott, Florida - Nay Scott, South Carolina - Nay Shaheen - Aye Shelby - Nay Sinema - Aye Smith - Aye Stabenow - Aye Sullivan - Aye Tester - Aye Thune - Aye Tillis - Aye Toomey - Not Voting Tuberville - Nay Van Hollen - Aye Warner - Aye Warnock - Aye Warren - Aye Whitehouse - Aye Wicker - Aye Wyden - Aye Young - Aye Negrong502 ( talk) 18:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
In the Senate confirmation section it lists Yes, Nay, and No Vote by each Senator. While I know the difference between a “no vote” and a “nay,” could it be confusing to others? Should we change “No Vote” to “Did not vote” or is this a technical parliamentary procedure term? If we can’t change it, perhaps we could clarify it? Thoughts? - TenorTwelve ( talk) 20:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
I accidentally found this nifty article —> [6] and I thought I should de-lurk because you don't have any "actings" listed and that's all Trump had.
Central Intelligence Agency, David Cohen
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Dave Uejio
U.S. Department of Agriculture, Kevin Shea
Department of Commerce, Wynn Coggins
Department of Defense, David Norquist
Department of Education, Phil Rosenfelt
Department of Energy, David Huizenga
Department of Health and Human Services, Norris Cochran
Department of Homeland Security, David Pekoske
Department of Housing and Urban Development, Matt Ammonn
Department of Interior, Scott de la Vega
Department of Justice, Monty Wilkinson
Department of Labor, Al Stewart
Department of State, Dan Smith
Department of Transportation, Lana Hurdle
Department of Treasury, Andy Baukol
Department of Veterans Affairs, Dat Tran
Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Lora Shiao
Environmental Protection Agency, Jane Nishida
General Services Administration, Katy Kale
National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Steve Jurczyk
National Endowment for the Arts, Ann Eilers
National Endowment for the Humanities, Adam Wolfson
Office of Management and Budget, Rob Fairweather
Office of National Drug Control Policy, Regina LaBelle
Office of Personnel Management, Kathy McGettigan
Peace Corps, Carol Spahn
Small Business Administration, Tami Perriello
Social Security Administration, Andrew Saul
U.S. Agency for Global Media, Kelu Chao
U.S. Agency for International Development, Gloria Steele
U.S. International Development Finance Corporation, Dev Jagadesan
U.S. Mission to the United Nations, Rich Mills
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