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Just a note, that since Lääne-Tallinn is a proper name, it should not be translated to "West Tallinn", just like Ida-Viru County is not translated to "East Viru". - Mardus / talk 00:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
I believe the type of maps used in this article is not well suited for the purpose. Look at Finland, for instance. There have been only two cases, but to an unaware reader it may appear as if half of the country has been overtaken by the virus. 213.55.225.63 ( talk) 15:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Please participate in the RfC on a change to the table of coronavirus cases + deaths per country. Xenagoras ( talk) 19:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
In the confirmed cases graph, Greece and Iceland are reversed in the column headings at the top, and do not match the bottom. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReinerNY ( talk • contribs) 13:37, 29 February 2020 (UTC) ReinerNY ( talk) 13:42, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Is there a point adding the map of San Marino? It's a microstate.-- Adûnâi ( talk) 18:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
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I've restored Template:2019–20 coronavirus outbreak data/Europe medical cases in the style of the France article - as a separate section near the end. This seems a matter of style without strong arguments any way, so I don't expect it to be controversial. Please add arguments/counterarguments for/against: beginning of section, end of section, before prose, after prose. To me it seems that either: after prose at the end of a section; or in a section on its own, though even in that case, preferably preceded by some prose, would be the most consistent with WP:MOS. Boud ( talk) 21:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
There was a temporary hiding of the table with a comment about the great width of the table. I don't think hiding it is justified. My browser has a horizontal slider which works fine. For wider usability issues, tech help can be requested on various help pages. The EU alone has 27 members (one big EU member state is still officially SARS-CoV-2-free), and other countries classified in Europe in the wider sense make it inevitable that this table is going to be wide. Boud ( talk) 21:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
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I have reverted the undiscussed move to 2020 COVID-19 outbreak in Europe. It raises a valid point though, which should be discussed for the whole set of articles. But I am afraid we are more into COMMONNAME territory than at the last RM. Agathoclea ( talk) 07:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, we wouldn't like every epidemic to be called after it's fancy name. Editoneer ( talk) 13:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I get the point that its typical European thing but tbh, who wrote it in British English? AustroHungarian1867 ( talk —Preceding undated comment added 06:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
As this is democracy, there isn't much power over those who changes the nouns to British. Editoneer ( talk) 13:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Errr yooo saiyin' yoo'd rahthah a Scot's Aynglish then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.117.131 ( talk) 12:01, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
[1] 69.117.53.217 ( talk) 21:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I've created WikiProject COVID-19 as a temporary or permanent WikiProject and invite editors to use this space for discussing ways to improve coverage of the ongoing 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. Please bring your ideas to the project/talk page. Stay safe, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:45, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Now that we seem to be beyond the point where there are 0 new daily cases in any of the territories shown, and indeed beyond the range of small-number statistics, would it be useful to have a plot showing the number of new daily cases plots with a logarithmic y-scale, to make it easier to get some kind of idea whether different countries' strategies are having an impact on the exponential growth rate? Jheald ( talk) 15:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm no geographer, but this may have been an oversight?
Russia is both in Europe and Asia, Note that Russia is the only country standing in two continents. Editoneer ( talk) 13:06, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
So... it has nothing to do with the position? Editoneer ( talk) 13:29, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
It would be logical and easier if it was about being both in Asia and in Europe, not depending on geostatics and other other. Anyways thanks. Editoneer ( talk) 11:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
As of 16 March 2020, 2316 deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.208.101 ( talk) 20:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
To add:
A 30-day travel ban proposed on all non-essential trips into the Schengen zone (related to European Union) over coronavirus.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/europe-coronavirus-travel-ban-30-days-coronavirus-a4388631.html https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-news/eu-affairs/100760/eu-proposes-temporary-ban-on-non-essential-travel-to-schengen-zone/
UK citizens while considered as European citizen (from the point of view of Ursula von der Leyen) would also benefit of it. https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1255946/coronavirus-EU-travel-ban-can-british-tourists-travel-to-EU
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/12/how-do-coronavirus-containment-measures-vary-across-europe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.208.101 ( talk) 22:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Anybody an interest in this kind of map. It shows the number of infected persons in relation to the population of the country. The data are taken from the WHO statistics and are valid for March 14.
. Changed the colors to keep it separate from the existing cases map.
-- Pechristener ( talk) 21:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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The number of ill people rised in the Czech Republic to 344 and we have the very first cured patients - 3 persons. Source: https://onemocneni-aktualne.mzcr.cz/covid-19 Benesovicmichal ( talk) 17:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please change: "Montenegro Main article: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Montenegro The first case was reported in the country on 17 March 2020." to "Montenegro Main article: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Montenegro The first case was reported in the country on 17 March 2020. They are two females (born on 1948 and 1973), one in Podgorica, the other in Ulcinj. One arrived 12 days ago from United States. Other arrived from Spain and were under medical surveillance." Vlado.ME ( talk) 21:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Is there a way to pull in the totals from the country page to the European page? The total of infections for Ireland currently stands at 129 but listed as 90 on the European page. [1] Jaqian ( talk) 20:16, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
As march 19 2020 13:07 UTC the total confirmed cases for Europe appear as 77,487, but the numbers in the table add up to 96,021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.134.220.78 ( talk) 13:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
It would be nice to add that these measures can be considered by many as almost a violation of human rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.39.214.62 ( talk) 22:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Some of the content from these articles might be useful, but I am personally more interested in the pandemic articles about Canada.
1. https://www.thelocal.it/20200318/learn-from-our-mistakes-italians-plead-with-people-abroad-to-take-coronavirus-risks-seriously 'Learn from our mistakes': Italians plead
"While Italy imposed a localised lockdown immediately after its first deaths, people outside of the "red zone" carried on going to bars and discos, eating meals at crowded restaurants, and hugging and kissing each other despite government advice telling them to limit social contact.
As reality hit home, Italians watched in horror as some in other countries shrugged it off as "just a case of the flu" – as some in Italy had done weeks earlier."
2. Hospitals might be “the main” source of Covid-19 transmission, the Bergamo doctors warned.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/21/coronavirus-plea-from-italy-treat-patients-at-home/?fbclid=IwAR0AM7hvtlnaANE_TtRz0Nhx_gvLQWpTlcn_xuzhIDH9Ywu0kcphsBzm3eU A plea from doctors in Italy: To avoid Covid-19 disaster, treat more patients at home
... “[Covid-19] patients started arriving and the rate of infection in other patients soared. That is one thing that probably led to the current disaster.”
“Managing patients at home is a brilliant thing,” “Bring them nutrition, measure their oxygen levels, even bring them oxygen, and you can probably keep many of them at home.
Peter K Burian ( talk) 11:18, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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Malta has 90 cases 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 14:05, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Support as per above. Esslet ( talk) 11:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
We should probably be discussing more important things here, but let's get this out of the way for now. Some people have been edit-warring a political disclaimer about the disputed status of Kosovo into the countries list in this article [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]. Can we agree here that this is not wanted? Per Making necessary assumptions, is not appropriate to export POV disputes about a central topic to each and every article where that topic happens to be referred to. The political status of this country is entirely extraneous to this article and irrelevant to its topic. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:27, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
mindless drive-by revert warring, I was fixing a cite error created by someone else. If the note is removed, then remove the Notes section as well. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 07:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Update: As of yesterday, the WHO reports at [11] report Serbia and Kosovo figures separately, so it may now be more easily feasible to maintain the two separate rows here too, if people can make it a habit to always use the exclusive figures as reported by WHO for Serbia, rather than the inclusive figures as reported by the Serbian authorities. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Kosovo is not a state. This note gives an article neutrality. User Future Perfect at Sunrise, forcing Albanian agenda, and that is against regular UN resolution 1244.-- Soundwaweserb ( talk) 12:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
In the Netherland section 16 March it is stated, as the reason for not completely locking down the country, that The Netherlands allows the virus to spread slowly, to reach herd immunity. That is a misunderstanding.
Reaching herd immunity is what must be achieved in the long run, for each country, through innoculation and/or getting and overcoming the disease. The current goal is to keep the number of serious illnesses low enough for the health system to handle. The means is social distancing, instead of total lockdown, because locking down completely might collapse the economy, which would result in far more deaths.
The Dutch government is not choosing to sacrifice vulnerable citizens to reach herd immunity. It is balancing between viral mortality and economic mortality, while protecting the most vulnerable, the elderly. The Netherlands tries to minimize deaths while keeping the country - all sectors, and in particular the health system - to function for maximum effect, during the period that innoculation is not available. That a part of the population is getting immunity in the mean time helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orbilin ( talk • contribs) 21:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Following the prevailing lead of the RfC at the main pandemic article, we ought to create a map that reflects cases per capita rather than per country total. Is anyone interested in taking this on? Sdkb ( talk) 08:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Please could someone change "Daily confirmed cases and deaths in mayor EU vs South Korea and mainland China development" to "Development of daily confirmed cases and deaths in major European states, South Korea and mainland China".
As well as the spelling mistake it's difficult to parse as it stands, and the UK's no longer in the EU.
Thanks. 2A01:CB15:336:CF00:9C32:1AAA:833D:BED8 ( talk) 18:26, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
One of the terms used in this article is "EU/EEA and UK". I understand why the UK is called out separately as it is a member of neither the EEA nor the EU. Switzerland is in the same position. It is a member of neither the EU nor the EEA. Should Switzerland not be included in the title viz. EU/EEA, Switzerland and the UK? Eggered ( talk) 10:44, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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Table: Summary table of confirmed cases in Europe (as of 21 March 2020) Table row edit needed. Country: Estonia Confirmed: 306 Deaths: 0 Recovered: 2
Source: https://www.terviseamet.ee/et/koroonaviirus/koroonakaart Aq64 ( talk) 12:56, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Armenia is not transcontinental country like Russia or Turkey. Its area lies entirely in Asia.-- Abutalub ( talk) 16:51, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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Levifan ( talk) 22:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
totals should be completed more accurate, if not statistics have no sense, there are 56342 cases if you take all countries together and not 46000 like is mentioned
The provided number is not the right one: there are 59 countries and territories with reported cases, including 5 new ones since previous week. http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/health-emergencies/coronavirus-covid-19/weekly-surveillance-report — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.209.235 ( talk) 10:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Source: http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/health-emergencies/coronavirus-covid-19/weekly-surveillance-report — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.209.235 ( talk) 11:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
We should not have a section "Criticism of response to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic" if there is no section "response to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic".
By fact, there are sources:
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The paragraph describing the strategy laid out by the PM of the Netherlands is inaccurate. While the speech [1] itself has led to misinterpretations as well, it, and the source linked to, do refer to the measures taken earlier by the government as a strategy to delay the spread of the virus. Therefore I suggest to change the following:
x to y whereby x="Instead the situation would be controlled as much as possible by allowing the virus to spread slowly but widely, relying on herd immunity until a vaccine is made available." y="Instead the situation would be controlled as much as possible by delaying the spread of the virus, relying on measures taken earlier by the government, such as social distancing and prohibiting gatherings of 100 people and over."
Also it would be inaccurate to say that the strategy relies on herd immunity, thus relying on people to get infected. It is a long term expected consequence of moving on from trying to contain the virus, which wasn't succesful, to the delaying strategy, until vaccins are developed. Also his reasoning for opting not to lockdown yet, which is described in the source, is very relevant here. Therefore I suggest to change the last part in this way:
x to y whereby x="This strategy would result in (and rely on) a large proportion of the country's citizens becoming infected in the following months." y="It's expected the coronavirus will keep spreading and large part of the population will become infected. Instead of opting to lock down the Netherlands for the time required, which would have a lot of (negative) consequences while the benefits remain uncertain and would have to stay in place, it will be attempted to build herd immunity in a controlled manner. Depending on how the virus behaves, the government will decide if additional measures are required." 84.87.99.58 ( talk) 03:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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20:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)0 people have died from COVID-19 in Latvia please fix the map — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpatsirkSpart ( talk • contribs) 18:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Could we please move Cyprus away from this article? It's in 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Asia, where it belongs. Yyyyyngve ( talk) 03:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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There are now 188 cases in Malta 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 15:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Can someone fix the archive bot that was put on this page? I think it never actually worked, and this page is becoming too long. -- Ritchie92 ( talk) 08:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Europe is the worst affected continent, both in proportion to its size & its population - despite the pandemic originating thousands of miles away. The article should explain why that has happened. Jim Michael ( talk) 07:31, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.209.235 ( talk) 21:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Germany - where kissing as a greeting is much less common than in France, Italy & Spain - also has a very high incidence of infection, so what are the reasons for its high infection rate? How has Germany managed to have a far lower death rate from it? Jim Michael ( talk) 14:13, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Large parties played a key role in the pandemic’s rapid expansion not just in central Europe, but also in the US and Australia. New York may now be the centre of the US outbreak, but the traditional festivities around Mardi Gras is thought to have been a catalyst for a large outbreak in New Orleans.
— The Guardian, The cluster effect: how social gatherings were rocket fuel for coronavirus [24]
References
Europe Elects reported in two articles about the effects of voters being more in favour of their leaders in opinion polling, which seems to be related to the COVID-19 pandemic. This could be included in the article.
EU Parliament Projection: Corona Rallies Europeans Around the Flag: https://europeelects.eu/2020/04/02/rally-around-the-flag-corona-and-voting-behaviour-in-europe/ Coronavirus: European Leaders Enjoy Surging Approval Ratings Amid Crisis: https://europeelects.eu/2020/04/01/coronavirus-european-leaders-enjoy-surging-approval-ratings-amid-crisis/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.41.168.95 ( talk) 00:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
On some maps Crimean peninsula is incorrectly shown separately from Ukraine. In some cases the peninsula has the border with the latest, in others - Crimea is presented in different colour with Ukrainian mainland. It is absolutely incorrect as Crimean peninsula that includes regions Autonomous Republic of Crimea and city of Sevastopol, is sovereign part of Ukraine. The Crimean peninsula is illegally occupied by Russia since 2014. None of the international organisations, including UN, OSCE, CoE, has never recognised illegal annexation of Crimea by Russia and continue to condemn this aggressive act by Russia. Majority of states in the world further recognize sovereignty of Ukraine over Crimea and condemn Russian aggressive deed. There is no single act of international law recognising annexation of Crimea by Russia. Euroserhi ( talk) 08:04, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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Could be added here to Germany or pandemic in Germany article: A group of patients from Lombardy in Italy and the border region of Alsace in France were treated in Germany. [1] 14.42.205.228 ( talk) 23:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
The summary table would benefit from having columns showing population and cases per million people so that the numbers can be compared to regions of similar area or population. 68.96.208.77 ( talk) 02:13, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Constructive Feedback
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Malta has reported 337 confirmed cases, 16 recoveries and 2 deaths. 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 12:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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there are now 350 cases in malta 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 12:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
It is possible the total reported count is inconsistent. As of 09 April 2020, 59 508 deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK, according to the ECDC. [25] So logically it should not be only 53000 on a wider area on the same day... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.155.241 ( talk) 19:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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There are now 370 cases, 16 recovered and 3 deaths in Malta 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 13:54, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Why does the summary table have fewer countries than are listed in Wikipedia's page on Europe? 68.96.208.77 ( talk) 00:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC) Feedback
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Just a note, that since Lääne-Tallinn is a proper name, it should not be translated to "West Tallinn", just like Ida-Viru County is not translated to "East Viru". - Mardus / talk 00:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
I believe the type of maps used in this article is not well suited for the purpose. Look at Finland, for instance. There have been only two cases, but to an unaware reader it may appear as if half of the country has been overtaken by the virus. 213.55.225.63 ( talk) 15:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Please participate in the RfC on a change to the table of coronavirus cases + deaths per country. Xenagoras ( talk) 19:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
In the confirmed cases graph, Greece and Iceland are reversed in the column headings at the top, and do not match the bottom. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReinerNY ( talk • contribs) 13:37, 29 February 2020 (UTC) ReinerNY ( talk) 13:42, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Is there a point adding the map of San Marino? It's a microstate.-- Adûnâi ( talk) 18:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
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I've restored Template:2019–20 coronavirus outbreak data/Europe medical cases in the style of the France article - as a separate section near the end. This seems a matter of style without strong arguments any way, so I don't expect it to be controversial. Please add arguments/counterarguments for/against: beginning of section, end of section, before prose, after prose. To me it seems that either: after prose at the end of a section; or in a section on its own, though even in that case, preferably preceded by some prose, would be the most consistent with WP:MOS. Boud ( talk) 21:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
There was a temporary hiding of the table with a comment about the great width of the table. I don't think hiding it is justified. My browser has a horizontal slider which works fine. For wider usability issues, tech help can be requested on various help pages. The EU alone has 27 members (one big EU member state is still officially SARS-CoV-2-free), and other countries classified in Europe in the wider sense make it inevitable that this table is going to be wide. Boud ( talk) 21:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
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I have reverted the undiscussed move to 2020 COVID-19 outbreak in Europe. It raises a valid point though, which should be discussed for the whole set of articles. But I am afraid we are more into COMMONNAME territory than at the last RM. Agathoclea ( talk) 07:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Honestly, we wouldn't like every epidemic to be called after it's fancy name. Editoneer ( talk) 13:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I get the point that its typical European thing but tbh, who wrote it in British English? AustroHungarian1867 ( talk —Preceding undated comment added 06:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
As this is democracy, there isn't much power over those who changes the nouns to British. Editoneer ( talk) 13:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Errr yooo saiyin' yoo'd rahthah a Scot's Aynglish then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.117.131 ( talk) 12:01, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
[1] 69.117.53.217 ( talk) 21:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I've created WikiProject COVID-19 as a temporary or permanent WikiProject and invite editors to use this space for discussing ways to improve coverage of the ongoing 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. Please bring your ideas to the project/talk page. Stay safe, --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:45, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Now that we seem to be beyond the point where there are 0 new daily cases in any of the territories shown, and indeed beyond the range of small-number statistics, would it be useful to have a plot showing the number of new daily cases plots with a logarithmic y-scale, to make it easier to get some kind of idea whether different countries' strategies are having an impact on the exponential growth rate? Jheald ( talk) 15:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm no geographer, but this may have been an oversight?
Russia is both in Europe and Asia, Note that Russia is the only country standing in two continents. Editoneer ( talk) 13:06, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
So... it has nothing to do with the position? Editoneer ( talk) 13:29, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
It would be logical and easier if it was about being both in Asia and in Europe, not depending on geostatics and other other. Anyways thanks. Editoneer ( talk) 11:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
As of 16 March 2020, 2316 deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.208.101 ( talk) 20:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
To add:
A 30-day travel ban proposed on all non-essential trips into the Schengen zone (related to European Union) over coronavirus.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/europe-coronavirus-travel-ban-30-days-coronavirus-a4388631.html https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-news/eu-affairs/100760/eu-proposes-temporary-ban-on-non-essential-travel-to-schengen-zone/
UK citizens while considered as European citizen (from the point of view of Ursula von der Leyen) would also benefit of it. https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1255946/coronavirus-EU-travel-ban-can-british-tourists-travel-to-EU
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.208.101 ( talk) 20:54, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/12/how-do-coronavirus-containment-measures-vary-across-europe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.208.101 ( talk) 22:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Anybody an interest in this kind of map. It shows the number of infected persons in relation to the population of the country. The data are taken from the WHO statistics and are valid for March 14.
. Changed the colors to keep it separate from the existing cases map.
-- Pechristener ( talk) 21:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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The number of ill people rised in the Czech Republic to 344 and we have the very first cured patients - 3 persons. Source: https://onemocneni-aktualne.mzcr.cz/covid-19 Benesovicmichal ( talk) 17:10, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please change: "Montenegro Main article: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Montenegro The first case was reported in the country on 17 March 2020." to "Montenegro Main article: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Montenegro The first case was reported in the country on 17 March 2020. They are two females (born on 1948 and 1973), one in Podgorica, the other in Ulcinj. One arrived 12 days ago from United States. Other arrived from Spain and were under medical surveillance." Vlado.ME ( talk) 21:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Is there a way to pull in the totals from the country page to the European page? The total of infections for Ireland currently stands at 129 but listed as 90 on the European page. [1] Jaqian ( talk) 20:16, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
As march 19 2020 13:07 UTC the total confirmed cases for Europe appear as 77,487, but the numbers in the table add up to 96,021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.134.220.78 ( talk) 13:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
It would be nice to add that these measures can be considered by many as almost a violation of human rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.39.214.62 ( talk) 22:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Some of the content from these articles might be useful, but I am personally more interested in the pandemic articles about Canada.
1. https://www.thelocal.it/20200318/learn-from-our-mistakes-italians-plead-with-people-abroad-to-take-coronavirus-risks-seriously 'Learn from our mistakes': Italians plead
"While Italy imposed a localised lockdown immediately after its first deaths, people outside of the "red zone" carried on going to bars and discos, eating meals at crowded restaurants, and hugging and kissing each other despite government advice telling them to limit social contact.
As reality hit home, Italians watched in horror as some in other countries shrugged it off as "just a case of the flu" – as some in Italy had done weeks earlier."
2. Hospitals might be “the main” source of Covid-19 transmission, the Bergamo doctors warned.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/21/coronavirus-plea-from-italy-treat-patients-at-home/?fbclid=IwAR0AM7hvtlnaANE_TtRz0Nhx_gvLQWpTlcn_xuzhIDH9Ywu0kcphsBzm3eU A plea from doctors in Italy: To avoid Covid-19 disaster, treat more patients at home
... “[Covid-19] patients started arriving and the rate of infection in other patients soared. That is one thing that probably led to the current disaster.”
“Managing patients at home is a brilliant thing,” “Bring them nutrition, measure their oxygen levels, even bring them oxygen, and you can probably keep many of them at home.
Peter K Burian ( talk) 11:18, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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Malta has 90 cases 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 14:05, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Support as per above. Esslet ( talk) 11:59, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
We should probably be discussing more important things here, but let's get this out of the way for now. Some people have been edit-warring a political disclaimer about the disputed status of Kosovo into the countries list in this article [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]. Can we agree here that this is not wanted? Per Making necessary assumptions, is not appropriate to export POV disputes about a central topic to each and every article where that topic happens to be referred to. The political status of this country is entirely extraneous to this article and irrelevant to its topic. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:27, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
mindless drive-by revert warring, I was fixing a cite error created by someone else. If the note is removed, then remove the Notes section as well. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 07:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Update: As of yesterday, the WHO reports at [11] report Serbia and Kosovo figures separately, so it may now be more easily feasible to maintain the two separate rows here too, if people can make it a habit to always use the exclusive figures as reported by WHO for Serbia, rather than the inclusive figures as reported by the Serbian authorities. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Kosovo is not a state. This note gives an article neutrality. User Future Perfect at Sunrise, forcing Albanian agenda, and that is against regular UN resolution 1244.-- Soundwaweserb ( talk) 12:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
In the Netherland section 16 March it is stated, as the reason for not completely locking down the country, that The Netherlands allows the virus to spread slowly, to reach herd immunity. That is a misunderstanding.
Reaching herd immunity is what must be achieved in the long run, for each country, through innoculation and/or getting and overcoming the disease. The current goal is to keep the number of serious illnesses low enough for the health system to handle. The means is social distancing, instead of total lockdown, because locking down completely might collapse the economy, which would result in far more deaths.
The Dutch government is not choosing to sacrifice vulnerable citizens to reach herd immunity. It is balancing between viral mortality and economic mortality, while protecting the most vulnerable, the elderly. The Netherlands tries to minimize deaths while keeping the country - all sectors, and in particular the health system - to function for maximum effect, during the period that innoculation is not available. That a part of the population is getting immunity in the mean time helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orbilin ( talk • contribs) 21:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Following the prevailing lead of the RfC at the main pandemic article, we ought to create a map that reflects cases per capita rather than per country total. Is anyone interested in taking this on? Sdkb ( talk) 08:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Please could someone change "Daily confirmed cases and deaths in mayor EU vs South Korea and mainland China development" to "Development of daily confirmed cases and deaths in major European states, South Korea and mainland China".
As well as the spelling mistake it's difficult to parse as it stands, and the UK's no longer in the EU.
Thanks. 2A01:CB15:336:CF00:9C32:1AAA:833D:BED8 ( talk) 18:26, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
One of the terms used in this article is "EU/EEA and UK". I understand why the UK is called out separately as it is a member of neither the EEA nor the EU. Switzerland is in the same position. It is a member of neither the EU nor the EEA. Should Switzerland not be included in the title viz. EU/EEA, Switzerland and the UK? Eggered ( talk) 10:44, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
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Table: Summary table of confirmed cases in Europe (as of 21 March 2020) Table row edit needed. Country: Estonia Confirmed: 306 Deaths: 0 Recovered: 2
Source: https://www.terviseamet.ee/et/koroonaviirus/koroonakaart Aq64 ( talk) 12:56, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Armenia is not transcontinental country like Russia or Turkey. Its area lies entirely in Asia.-- Abutalub ( talk) 16:51, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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Levifan ( talk) 22:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
totals should be completed more accurate, if not statistics have no sense, there are 56342 cases if you take all countries together and not 46000 like is mentioned
The provided number is not the right one: there are 59 countries and territories with reported cases, including 5 new ones since previous week. http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/health-emergencies/coronavirus-covid-19/weekly-surveillance-report — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.209.235 ( talk) 10:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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Source: http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/health-emergencies/coronavirus-covid-19/weekly-surveillance-report — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.209.235 ( talk) 11:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
We should not have a section "Criticism of response to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic" if there is no section "response to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic".
By fact, there are sources:
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The paragraph describing the strategy laid out by the PM of the Netherlands is inaccurate. While the speech [1] itself has led to misinterpretations as well, it, and the source linked to, do refer to the measures taken earlier by the government as a strategy to delay the spread of the virus. Therefore I suggest to change the following:
x to y whereby x="Instead the situation would be controlled as much as possible by allowing the virus to spread slowly but widely, relying on herd immunity until a vaccine is made available." y="Instead the situation would be controlled as much as possible by delaying the spread of the virus, relying on measures taken earlier by the government, such as social distancing and prohibiting gatherings of 100 people and over."
Also it would be inaccurate to say that the strategy relies on herd immunity, thus relying on people to get infected. It is a long term expected consequence of moving on from trying to contain the virus, which wasn't succesful, to the delaying strategy, until vaccins are developed. Also his reasoning for opting not to lockdown yet, which is described in the source, is very relevant here. Therefore I suggest to change the last part in this way:
x to y whereby x="This strategy would result in (and rely on) a large proportion of the country's citizens becoming infected in the following months." y="It's expected the coronavirus will keep spreading and large part of the population will become infected. Instead of opting to lock down the Netherlands for the time required, which would have a lot of (negative) consequences while the benefits remain uncertain and would have to stay in place, it will be attempted to build herd immunity in a controlled manner. Depending on how the virus behaves, the government will decide if additional measures are required." 84.87.99.58 ( talk) 03:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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20:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)0 people have died from COVID-19 in Latvia please fix the map — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpatsirkSpart ( talk • contribs) 18:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Could we please move Cyprus away from this article? It's in 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Asia, where it belongs. Yyyyyngve ( talk) 03:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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There are now 188 cases in Malta 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 15:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Can someone fix the archive bot that was put on this page? I think it never actually worked, and this page is becoming too long. -- Ritchie92 ( talk) 08:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Europe is the worst affected continent, both in proportion to its size & its population - despite the pandemic originating thousands of miles away. The article should explain why that has happened. Jim Michael ( talk) 07:31, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.209.235 ( talk) 21:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Germany - where kissing as a greeting is much less common than in France, Italy & Spain - also has a very high incidence of infection, so what are the reasons for its high infection rate? How has Germany managed to have a far lower death rate from it? Jim Michael ( talk) 14:13, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Large parties played a key role in the pandemic’s rapid expansion not just in central Europe, but also in the US and Australia. New York may now be the centre of the US outbreak, but the traditional festivities around Mardi Gras is thought to have been a catalyst for a large outbreak in New Orleans.
— The Guardian, The cluster effect: how social gatherings were rocket fuel for coronavirus [24]
References
Europe Elects reported in two articles about the effects of voters being more in favour of their leaders in opinion polling, which seems to be related to the COVID-19 pandemic. This could be included in the article.
EU Parliament Projection: Corona Rallies Europeans Around the Flag: https://europeelects.eu/2020/04/02/rally-around-the-flag-corona-and-voting-behaviour-in-europe/ Coronavirus: European Leaders Enjoy Surging Approval Ratings Amid Crisis: https://europeelects.eu/2020/04/01/coronavirus-european-leaders-enjoy-surging-approval-ratings-amid-crisis/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.41.168.95 ( talk) 00:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
On some maps Crimean peninsula is incorrectly shown separately from Ukraine. In some cases the peninsula has the border with the latest, in others - Crimea is presented in different colour with Ukrainian mainland. It is absolutely incorrect as Crimean peninsula that includes regions Autonomous Republic of Crimea and city of Sevastopol, is sovereign part of Ukraine. The Crimean peninsula is illegally occupied by Russia since 2014. None of the international organisations, including UN, OSCE, CoE, has never recognised illegal annexation of Crimea by Russia and continue to condemn this aggressive act by Russia. Majority of states in the world further recognize sovereignty of Ukraine over Crimea and condemn Russian aggressive deed. There is no single act of international law recognising annexation of Crimea by Russia. Euroserhi ( talk) 08:04, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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Could be added here to Germany or pandemic in Germany article: A group of patients from Lombardy in Italy and the border region of Alsace in France were treated in Germany. [1] 14.42.205.228 ( talk) 23:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
The summary table would benefit from having columns showing population and cases per million people so that the numbers can be compared to regions of similar area or population. 68.96.208.77 ( talk) 02:13, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Constructive Feedback
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Malta has reported 337 confirmed cases, 16 recoveries and 2 deaths. 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 12:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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there are now 350 cases in malta 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 12:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
It is possible the total reported count is inconsistent. As of 09 April 2020, 59 508 deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK, according to the ECDC. [25] So logically it should not be only 53000 on a wider area on the same day... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.155.241 ( talk) 19:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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There are now 370 cases, 16 recovered and 3 deaths in Malta 213.217.240.27 ( talk) 13:54, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Why does the summary table have fewer countries than are listed in Wikipedia's page on Europe? 68.96.208.77 ( talk) 00:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC) Feedback