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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 18:27, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Many states are imposing partial lockdown. I think it's best if we update this page on any developments rather than create another page. Most of the information pertains to 2020. -- Sitaphul ( talk) 11:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I was thinking of fixing the CDDEP report content that was added this morning, but before I got to it, a certain number of "FAKE ALERT" reverts had occurred.
The problem is media's misunderstanding of how Universities work. Universities do not publish research or authenticate them. Rather, their researchers are expected to publish their research in peer-reviewed journals. Before the publication, it is common for them to issue them as University-branded technical reports. These reports do not however mean that the University has certified the research results.
CDDEP is on the other hand a research lab/thinktank. So its reports are institutional. However, that doesn't mean much in this case since CDDEP is just an upstart lab. There is not much weight to be associated with it.
So the report is certainly not "fake". But it is unpublished research. The lead researcher is listed as Eili Klein from Johns Hopkins. Princeton's involvement is in terms of Ramanan Laxminarayan, who appears to have a part-time appointment there. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 17:08, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Speaking to The Federal, Ramanan Laxminaryan from CDDEP said, “There is some tweet storm going around on the Hopkins logo on our estimates. I am appointed at Hopkins as is half the modelling team. But since we didn’t put our names on the slides, it is against Hopkins policy since it then appears as if it’s the university’s official position. This will be fixed tomorrow and their logo will be on.” [1]
References
So will be able to go out on 14 April 2020? Or 15th? Will there be measures to have a slow roll out so shops are not over crowded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgkprog ( talk • contribs) 08:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I wonder if this can be added to the, "Reception" section. Any feedback is welcome!— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 16:52, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Kautilya3, I want to add that burglars are stealing groceries and alcohol as people are staying at home which makes houses untargetable, citing this as a reference. Is it acceptable?— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 04:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
"States have favoured opening up liquor shops during coronavirus lockdown. Apart from reports of surge in illicit sale of liquor and attempted suicide by some persons, the real logic behind the move could be drying up revenue for these states"according to this. Can we put that in our own words and add it to the article?— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 08:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Kautilya3, Rivers have become cleaner due to the lockdown. Can we cite this and this reference for the same and add it to our article?— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 07:58, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
WP champions... Throwing the idea of adding a section for Fake & Unverified News reported in MSM related to lockdown. I had added a section for it but one of the editors Kautilya3 has reverted with the opinion that it doesn't satisfy WP:UNDUE. I believe it is appropriate for this article to have a section for unverified news propagated in MSM related to lockdown. All views are welcome. Major unverified news which turned out to be false/fake: 1. ABP Majha - News head arrested and Bombay HC condemned the news carried by the channel 2. NDTV - False news about Arunachal Pradesh food shortage busted by Govt of AP and Kiren Rijiju. NDTV updated with corrections and issued a clarification on their official Twitter handle. 3. Scroll.in - News about Bihar children eating frog busted by PIB FactCheck and labelled as FAKE
Why Credible citation are removed from some of the parts of article? Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 07:13, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Why The citation are removed from the Articles? Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 07:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Why is corona a still big problem?Find Out" ? Shanze1 ( talk) 07:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay thanks, If I send you a live link can you upload it. Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 08:30, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
https://m.thewire.in/article/government/gujarat-police-inquiry-migrant-workers-container-trucks/amp Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 08:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
139 million migrant workers are not unemployed like The Wire claims but total of 140 million Indians are unemployed. https://www.cmie.com/kommon/bin/sr.php?kall=warticle&dt=2020-04-21%2010:40:01&msec=873
The Wire is also used on "Reception" even when their bias is strong. They call lockdown "punitive" and have no source to backup their statistics.
Can we stop using an unreliable or otherwise anti BJP source like The Wire who is pulling estimates out of thin air? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.170.18.17 ( talk) 06:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I've noticed the edit warring in the article history and would strongly recommend that consensus is gained for including the information and reference that is in dispute, as the publication has been discussed at WP:RSN before. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam Talk 07:10, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I am finding the claims by IP editor to be accurate so far. SerChevalerie You were the editor who added the information [2] and it was reverted. Now per WP:BRD you have to gain consensus before restoring it. Coronavirus is a subject which is fraught with tons of misinformation. Stick to only authoritative sources or highly reliable sources and don't use Wire for a sensitive subject such as this. Aman Kumar Goel ( Talk) 08:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
With factories and workplaces shut down, they were left with no livelihood. Following this, many of them and their families went hungry., which is sufficiently backed in the rest of the paragraph. So don't accuse me of POV-pushing. SerChevalerie ( talk) 08:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Fully protected the page for three days. Find a conclusion to this discussion in that time, please. Anarchyte ( talk • work) 11:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
IP user, thank you for finally making some sense.
An estimated 139 million migrant workers from the countryside work in India's cities and towns.which is backed by the new source from World Economic Forum in 2017. If you were not happy with the grammar of the overall paragraph, you could have modified it without removing the content. What you did was uncalled for.
deaths had been caused due to the lockdown, with reasons ranging from starvation, exhaustion, suicides, road and rail accidents,. Give me some time to find reliable sources to back the remaining claims of
police brutality and denial of timely medical care. All the reported deaths were among the marginalised migrants and labourers.Since the exact number of migrants' deaths is pretty controversial and will need multiple WP:RS to confirm, I agree to its removal.
I will create a new draft here for consensus to be achieved with additional RS. SerChevalerie ( talk) 12:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Anarchyte, clearly the pending-changes protection is not working. I would recommend long-term semi-protection. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Migrant workers
There are an estimated 139 million migrant workers as per the 2011 Census of India. [1] With factories and workplaces shut down, millions of migrant workers had to deal with the loss of income, food shortages and uncertainty about their future. [2] [3] Following this, many of them and their families went hungry. [4]
- Reception
Due to the lockdown, more than 300 deaths were reported, with reasons ranging from starvation, suicides, [5] exhaustion, [6] road and rail accidents, [7] police brutality [8] [9] [10] and denial of timely medical care. [11] Among the reported deaths, most were among the marginalised migrants and labourers. [12] [13]
References
- ^ Sharma, Krishnavatar (1 October 2017). "India has 139 million internal migrants. They must not be forgotten". World Economic Forum. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Slater, Joanna; Masih, Niha (28 March 2020). "In India, the world's biggest lockdown has forced migrants to walk hundreds of miles home". Washington Post. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Singh, Kanika (6 April 2020). "Coronavirus outbreak: Ensuring water, hygiene facilities for migrant labourers can safeguard millions stranded during shutdown". Firstpost. Retrieved 2020-05-16.
- ^ Abi-Habib, Maria; Yasir, Sameer (2020-03-29). "India's Coronavirus Lockdown Leaves Vast Numbers Stranded and Hungry". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Elsa, Evangeline (15 April 2020). "The human cost of India's coronavirus lockdown: Deaths by hunger, starvation, suicide and more". Gulf News. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ "Suicide leading cause for over 300 lockdown deaths in India, says study". The Economic Times. 2020-05-05. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Gettleman, Jeffrey; Raj, Suhasini; Kumar, Hari (2020-05-08). "As India Reopens, Deadly Accidents Break Out". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Inamdar, Nadeem (2020-03-27). "Covid-19: Probe ordered into ambulance driver's death after assault by policeman". Hindustan Times. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Srivastava, Piyush (19 April 2020). "'Beaten' for stepping out for biscuits, UP teen dies". Telegraph India. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Singh, Anuraag (20 April 2020). "Farmer beaten by cops amid lockdown dies in Madhya Pradesh, six officers suspended, SP transferred". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ "Two more gas tragedy victims die of COVID-19 in Bhopal; toll reaches seven". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Vij, Shivam (2020-04-13). "More than 300 Indians have died of the coronavirus, and nearly 200 of the lockdown". ThePrint. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Agarwal, Kabir (10 May 2020). "Not Just the Aurangabad Accident, 383 People Have Died Due to the Punitive Lockdown". The Wire. Retrieved 10 May 2020.
Several millions of people migrating (some of them perhaps permanently) back to their homestate - many on foot- ought to be a separate article. This is unprecedented in the modern history of India
-- Xooxwiki ( talk) 15:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I have consolidated all the info on migrant workers from the various pages related to COVID-19 in India at Indian migrant workers during the COVID-19 pandemic. Interested editors, please contribute. SerChevalerie ( talk) 09:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
An IP user has tagged the page as being in need of updating. While I don't disagree, what new information is significant enough to be added here? SerChevalerie ( talk) 07:29, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
https://doi.org/10.36745/ijca.391
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Not done Good source, but please mention specific changes you want. Zoozaz1 talk 18:29, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
We should all varient of corona declared bh who in pdf details. With in india found all varient information 106.208.148.200 ( talk) 22:29, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
How do to zenome seqvencing details and dna test information 106.208.148.200 ( talk) 22:31, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
All details information rahat pakage in covid 19 by pm modi. Uses and bemefcial 106.208.148.200 ( talk) 22:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
After and before sichavichana in India 2409:4042:2E97:BA68:D9E5:7496:76D5:F233 ( talk) 16:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Huvchhb 182.237.154.176 ( talk) 15:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
English 2402:8100:3870:ACB3:1:1:1E98:63B2 ( talk) 10:31, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 18:27, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Many states are imposing partial lockdown. I think it's best if we update this page on any developments rather than create another page. Most of the information pertains to 2020. -- Sitaphul ( talk) 11:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I was thinking of fixing the CDDEP report content that was added this morning, but before I got to it, a certain number of "FAKE ALERT" reverts had occurred.
The problem is media's misunderstanding of how Universities work. Universities do not publish research or authenticate them. Rather, their researchers are expected to publish their research in peer-reviewed journals. Before the publication, it is common for them to issue them as University-branded technical reports. These reports do not however mean that the University has certified the research results.
CDDEP is on the other hand a research lab/thinktank. So its reports are institutional. However, that doesn't mean much in this case since CDDEP is just an upstart lab. There is not much weight to be associated with it.
So the report is certainly not "fake". But it is unpublished research. The lead researcher is listed as Eili Klein from Johns Hopkins. Princeton's involvement is in terms of Ramanan Laxminarayan, who appears to have a part-time appointment there. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 17:08, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Speaking to The Federal, Ramanan Laxminaryan from CDDEP said, “There is some tweet storm going around on the Hopkins logo on our estimates. I am appointed at Hopkins as is half the modelling team. But since we didn’t put our names on the slides, it is against Hopkins policy since it then appears as if it’s the university’s official position. This will be fixed tomorrow and their logo will be on.” [1]
References
So will be able to go out on 14 April 2020? Or 15th? Will there be measures to have a slow roll out so shops are not over crowded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgkprog ( talk • contribs) 08:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I wonder if this can be added to the, "Reception" section. Any feedback is welcome!— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 16:52, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Kautilya3, I want to add that burglars are stealing groceries and alcohol as people are staying at home which makes houses untargetable, citing this as a reference. Is it acceptable?— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 04:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
"States have favoured opening up liquor shops during coronavirus lockdown. Apart from reports of surge in illicit sale of liquor and attempted suicide by some persons, the real logic behind the move could be drying up revenue for these states"according to this. Can we put that in our own words and add it to the article?— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 08:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Kautilya3, Rivers have become cleaner due to the lockdown. Can we cite this and this reference for the same and add it to our article?— Souniel Yadav ( talk) 07:58, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
WP champions... Throwing the idea of adding a section for Fake & Unverified News reported in MSM related to lockdown. I had added a section for it but one of the editors Kautilya3 has reverted with the opinion that it doesn't satisfy WP:UNDUE. I believe it is appropriate for this article to have a section for unverified news propagated in MSM related to lockdown. All views are welcome. Major unverified news which turned out to be false/fake: 1. ABP Majha - News head arrested and Bombay HC condemned the news carried by the channel 2. NDTV - False news about Arunachal Pradesh food shortage busted by Govt of AP and Kiren Rijiju. NDTV updated with corrections and issued a clarification on their official Twitter handle. 3. Scroll.in - News about Bihar children eating frog busted by PIB FactCheck and labelled as FAKE
Why Credible citation are removed from some of the parts of article? Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 07:13, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Why The citation are removed from the Articles? Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 07:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Why is corona a still big problem?Find Out" ? Shanze1 ( talk) 07:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay thanks, If I send you a live link can you upload it. Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 08:30, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
https://m.thewire.in/article/government/gujarat-police-inquiry-migrant-workers-container-trucks/amp Saifullah.vguj ( talk) 08:33, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
139 million migrant workers are not unemployed like The Wire claims but total of 140 million Indians are unemployed. https://www.cmie.com/kommon/bin/sr.php?kall=warticle&dt=2020-04-21%2010:40:01&msec=873
The Wire is also used on "Reception" even when their bias is strong. They call lockdown "punitive" and have no source to backup their statistics.
Can we stop using an unreliable or otherwise anti BJP source like The Wire who is pulling estimates out of thin air? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.170.18.17 ( talk) 06:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I've noticed the edit warring in the article history and would strongly recommend that consensus is gained for including the information and reference that is in dispute, as the publication has been discussed at WP:RSN before. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam Talk 07:10, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I am finding the claims by IP editor to be accurate so far. SerChevalerie You were the editor who added the information [2] and it was reverted. Now per WP:BRD you have to gain consensus before restoring it. Coronavirus is a subject which is fraught with tons of misinformation. Stick to only authoritative sources or highly reliable sources and don't use Wire for a sensitive subject such as this. Aman Kumar Goel ( Talk) 08:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
With factories and workplaces shut down, they were left with no livelihood. Following this, many of them and their families went hungry., which is sufficiently backed in the rest of the paragraph. So don't accuse me of POV-pushing. SerChevalerie ( talk) 08:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Fully protected the page for three days. Find a conclusion to this discussion in that time, please. Anarchyte ( talk • work) 11:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
IP user, thank you for finally making some sense.
An estimated 139 million migrant workers from the countryside work in India's cities and towns.which is backed by the new source from World Economic Forum in 2017. If you were not happy with the grammar of the overall paragraph, you could have modified it without removing the content. What you did was uncalled for.
deaths had been caused due to the lockdown, with reasons ranging from starvation, exhaustion, suicides, road and rail accidents,. Give me some time to find reliable sources to back the remaining claims of
police brutality and denial of timely medical care. All the reported deaths were among the marginalised migrants and labourers.Since the exact number of migrants' deaths is pretty controversial and will need multiple WP:RS to confirm, I agree to its removal.
I will create a new draft here for consensus to be achieved with additional RS. SerChevalerie ( talk) 12:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Anarchyte, clearly the pending-changes protection is not working. I would recommend long-term semi-protection. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Migrant workers
There are an estimated 139 million migrant workers as per the 2011 Census of India. [1] With factories and workplaces shut down, millions of migrant workers had to deal with the loss of income, food shortages and uncertainty about their future. [2] [3] Following this, many of them and their families went hungry. [4]
- Reception
Due to the lockdown, more than 300 deaths were reported, with reasons ranging from starvation, suicides, [5] exhaustion, [6] road and rail accidents, [7] police brutality [8] [9] [10] and denial of timely medical care. [11] Among the reported deaths, most were among the marginalised migrants and labourers. [12] [13]
References
- ^ Sharma, Krishnavatar (1 October 2017). "India has 139 million internal migrants. They must not be forgotten". World Economic Forum. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Slater, Joanna; Masih, Niha (28 March 2020). "In India, the world's biggest lockdown has forced migrants to walk hundreds of miles home". Washington Post. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Singh, Kanika (6 April 2020). "Coronavirus outbreak: Ensuring water, hygiene facilities for migrant labourers can safeguard millions stranded during shutdown". Firstpost. Retrieved 2020-05-16.
- ^ Abi-Habib, Maria; Yasir, Sameer (2020-03-29). "India's Coronavirus Lockdown Leaves Vast Numbers Stranded and Hungry". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Elsa, Evangeline (15 April 2020). "The human cost of India's coronavirus lockdown: Deaths by hunger, starvation, suicide and more". Gulf News. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ "Suicide leading cause for over 300 lockdown deaths in India, says study". The Economic Times. 2020-05-05. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Gettleman, Jeffrey; Raj, Suhasini; Kumar, Hari (2020-05-08). "As India Reopens, Deadly Accidents Break Out". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Inamdar, Nadeem (2020-03-27). "Covid-19: Probe ordered into ambulance driver's death after assault by policeman". Hindustan Times. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Srivastava, Piyush (19 April 2020). "'Beaten' for stepping out for biscuits, UP teen dies". Telegraph India. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Singh, Anuraag (20 April 2020). "Farmer beaten by cops amid lockdown dies in Madhya Pradesh, six officers suspended, SP transferred". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ "Two more gas tragedy victims die of COVID-19 in Bhopal; toll reaches seven". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Vij, Shivam (2020-04-13). "More than 300 Indians have died of the coronavirus, and nearly 200 of the lockdown". ThePrint. Retrieved 2020-05-13.
- ^ Agarwal, Kabir (10 May 2020). "Not Just the Aurangabad Accident, 383 People Have Died Due to the Punitive Lockdown". The Wire. Retrieved 10 May 2020.
Several millions of people migrating (some of them perhaps permanently) back to their homestate - many on foot- ought to be a separate article. This is unprecedented in the modern history of India
-- Xooxwiki ( talk) 15:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I have consolidated all the info on migrant workers from the various pages related to COVID-19 in India at Indian migrant workers during the COVID-19 pandemic. Interested editors, please contribute. SerChevalerie ( talk) 09:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
An IP user has tagged the page as being in need of updating. While I don't disagree, what new information is significant enough to be added here? SerChevalerie ( talk) 07:29, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
https://doi.org/10.36745/ijca.391
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Not done Good source, but please mention specific changes you want. Zoozaz1 talk 18:29, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
We should all varient of corona declared bh who in pdf details. With in india found all varient information 106.208.148.200 ( talk) 22:29, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
How do to zenome seqvencing details and dna test information 106.208.148.200 ( talk) 22:31, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
All details information rahat pakage in covid 19 by pm modi. Uses and bemefcial 106.208.148.200 ( talk) 22:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
After and before sichavichana in India 2409:4042:2E97:BA68:D9E5:7496:76D5:F233 ( talk) 16:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Huvchhb 182.237.154.176 ( talk) 15:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
English 2402:8100:3870:ACB3:1:1:1E98:63B2 ( talk) 10:31, 4 June 2022 (UTC)