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should this section be in or not? Please explain why you think yes or no.
He is very secretive about his appearance, often having his face blurred out or hidden when he appears in other people's videos. [1] He also chooses to represent himself as a stickman with square glasses in his "thoughts from the screen" vlog-series. He has said that he "very highly" values his anonymity. He explains this by saying that he likes "being able to walk through the streets of London at night without being recognised and "not having my face in the videos forces me to me to concentrate much more on the visual side of an explanation for particular topic so I can't just shoot myself talking about it." [2]
In most of the videos that Grey does, he includes a hidden Creeper in the video game Minecraft. Should this be added in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoredomJS ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Done. The edit I made was pretty messy, so feel free to alter it. 2.102.81.45 ( talk) 20:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
When I said 'alter' I did not mean 'remove completely'. Kindly notify me if you plan on deleting my work, or at least provide some justification. (The reason my I.P. address is different is that I made the first edit using my ipod.) 88.104.241.72 ( talk) 21:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I realise that the name is sourced to a news article, but i am unconvinced that it could be said to be his name as he has never stated it and has said multiple times that he values his privacy. Nor does the news article appear to have any source for the name, suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.230.140.138 ( talk) 19:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm the person who added his name. Sorry about that. Jinkinson ( talk) 04:15, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
This article is about Grey's videos and to a much lesser extent Grey himself, so why does his HI podcast encompass more than half of the article? I understand that it is his podcast, but it also Brady Haran's podcast. They are collaborators on Hello Internet, yet there is no mention of the podcast on Haran's article. Any suggestions on what to do about this? Soulbust ( talk) 19:58, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Grey made a live appearance last month. We have an image of him at the event. He has held back on publishing images of himself so far. There are fans that have gone out to look for images of him, and regretted it. [4]. I don't think it would be prudent to post this image of him onto his wikipedia page. If there is some way of initially hiding the image, like was proposed for graphical content, that would be best I think. -- 1Veertje ( talk) 15:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
It seems inconsistent what we are using for references. Shouldn't we just point to youtube itself like we do for Tropes vs. Women in Video Games? Zero Serenity ( talk - contributions) 18:08, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
I thought there was a no primary sources principle? There a lot of youtubers who have had there pages deleted for this issue. 131.227.165.186 ( talk) 14:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
As 192.43.244.42 pointed out, this article is about the channel, not the person. For this reason, the article title should be "CGP Grey", instead of "C. G. P. Grey". The periods and spaces seem to be vestigial elements, from when the article was about the person, not the channel. User:Robsinden most recently moved this article to its current state, citing "per our MOS and per official website", though the official website is about C. G. P. Grey the person, and not CGP Grey the channel. The channel (and related branding) goes by "CGP Grey", so the article title should reflect that. If no one has anything to say about this, I'll move the article to CGP Grey in a few days. — Rutlandbaconsouthamptonshakespeare ( talk) 16:09, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
As the article stood, it was formatted to center on the channel, not the person. I've now gone and rephrased/reformatted things to turn it more biographical; however, the following issues have arisen:
— Rutlandbaconsouthamptonshakespeare ( talk) 02:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Should the list of videos exist in its current form, or should the more notable ones be cherry-picked and made into prose? By "more notable" I merely mean the ones that have a significant amount of coverage (yes I know almost all do, but more significant). I'm more than happy to write it up myself, I just didn't fell like I had enough boldness in me to write something that may be discarded. Kharkiv07 ( T) 03:36, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I know that the section is here because the content was merged rather than deleted, but I find it quite inappropriate to put the Hello Internet content solely on this article. Hello Internet is a collaboration between CGP Grey and Brady Haran, not a project by CGP Grey that features Brady Haran. It's certainly a good idea to mention Grey's contributions to the podcast here, but I really don't think the primary destination for Hello Internet should be this article. If it doesn't meet notability requirements for its own article, then it shouldn't try and continue to try to be a pseudo-article here. -- Snorlax Monster 15:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
-- ElleExtreme ( talk) 20:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
This has to be it's own article, it makes no sense at all to put it there. Brady Haran is as important to the podcast as his CGPGrey. It's very arbitrary to put in on Grey's page rather than his. This is confusing. You did that because it's Grey who edits it? Since when is that the criterion?
Now, there's no problem of notability as the podcast has been mentioned on many outlets, including Slate, BBC News, Tech Times and Tech Crunch. It was nominated for a Podcast Award.
Podcasts similar or lesser in their outreach and notability already have their own articles : 99% Invisible, Stuff You Should Know, Reply All, Grammar Girl, Song Exploder, etc, etc.
There's no reason to keep it as it is. There's a ton of stuff to say about HI and it would make a great article on it's own.
Docteur ( talk) 16:36, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
I agree, especially since there has been a legal agreement on the co-owned rights of the podcast by the parts, C.G.P Grey and Brady Haran. The podcast is now also reaching enough significance (as mentioned in the article) that I find it relevant to separate it from the respective YouTube channels. This agrument is reinforced by them being different mediums, and it, through the podcast, has been confirmed that there are exclusive audiences to both. -- ElleExtreme ( talk) 20:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
@ Moonsprite: Welcome to WP:BRD. You've been entirely too bold and I've reverted you. Grey doesn't want to be identified. While you may think you're improving the article, I don't think it's worth causing headaches for others. We need to come to consensus about this before this sort of information can be added. Chris Troutman ( talk) 20:41, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
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CGP Grey has been noted to be a professional flag critic. This should be reflected in the Wikipedia article. 208.82.157.102 ( talk) 15:10, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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I previously edited this page poorly. I have revised what I be believe should be put in, this should be included in the hello internet section as the flag rebellion is a growing topic on the podcast and some background knowledge (that new listeners may not have) is required to understand parts of the show. I also think, although less necessary there should be a picture of the flag in the section. Even if you do not use what I have written it would be wise to include a section. Anyway here it is:
The Flag Rebellion The flag rebellion or the fight for the alleged one true flag, is the campaign to get the "Flaggy Flag" design officially recognised as the flag of the Hello Internet podcast. The main cause of rebellion is that many support what one co host said: flaggy flag is more old fashioned and traditional - Brady Haran[1], so it would suit the podcast that often talks about flags. It is also said to have a more professional appearance than the so-called cheap design of "Nail and Gear" flag - these are some of the points presented by the people of the rebellion, and are to be viewed with that in mind. History of Flaggy Flag: It was originally designed and put on the HI subreddit then was later put on the flag shortlist only to come in a second. However that was not the end, the flag latter went on to become the center of the rebellion.
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Separate the Hello Internet page and the CGP Grey page, so that Hello Internet no longer directly links here. This will allow the creation of a specific page for the podcast Hello Internet, as per the request of CGP Grey in his most recent Podcast. TheJoKr88 ( talk)theJokr88 TheJoKr88 ( talk) 12:45, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
As Chris troutman said above, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a useful argument when discussing inclusion decisions: it is possible that many of those wouldn't survive an AFD. A very quick look shows me that many of those articles are very old, which is an explanation for their initial creation. Additionally, many of them are tagged as possibly not notable too. — crh 23 ( Talk) 08:07, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
"Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity". In my honest opinion, I think the standards for notability are sometimes too stringent, but that won't change how the community at large considers an article. — crh 23 ( Talk) 07:36, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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In the intro, the mention of Hello internet should link to /info/en/?search=Hello_Internet I would also remove the link on the word "podcast" to not have two links one after the other. 74.15.150.237 ( talk) 15:08, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
I think it would be better to make this article about the youtube channel, not the person. I get why Vi Hart would be about the person and not the youtube channel. We actually know something about the person and she is known for other things than the youtube stuff. But here that's just not the case. It would be like making an article about Henry Reich, only known for minutephysics.
I'd hapily make the needed changes. I just didn't want to do it without consensus from the rest of the contributors. Amphicoelias ( talk) 19:16, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
All the information in this Talk page clearly indicates that this article is about the CGPGrey YouTube channel, not C. G. P. Grey the person, as C. G. P. Grey does not meet the notability requirements for an article about himself (?). If that is indeed still that case, this article is in need to some major reworking to refocus it on the channel. I'm happy to do some of the work, but I don't want to make a unilateral decision on the content of the article. Gk007 ( talk) 18:12, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Is it noteworthy enough to perhaps include a mention to CGP Grey's alt channel, CGPGrey2? There isn't much significance, but he does have a large viewership on the videos he posts there. I think it could belong in the Infobox to contain its statistics and URL link in YouTube information section.
Somewhat unrelated to my first point, CGP Grey is used on the article to refer to the person, while CGPGrey is used to refer to the YouTube channel name. However, his current YouTube channel is CGP Grey with a space between CGP and Grey. Looking back at his channel's name (using the Internet Archive Wayback Machine) it shows that it was formerly called C.G.P. Grey in October 2013, became CGPGrey on around 2 November 2013, and then was switched to CGP Grey on around 11 November 2013, remaining with a space ever since. I think that the instances of CGPGrey in the article be switched to CGP Grey to correctly match his channel's display name. Side note: the channel banner features C. G. P. Grey throughout all the channel name changes.
I'm just hesitant to make the edits until I get some agreement or consensus; I don't want to get other editors upset. — TheAnonymousNerd ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Looking at the recent edits, we will probably need to include some information about Grey's livestreaming (which was not listed on here until he streamed a couple of days ago). The header says he livestreams under the channel "CGPPlay". However, there are only 3 videos on CGPPlay and I was wondering how often he actually streams on there. His two most recent streams were on CGPGrey2 so perhaps that should replace "CGPPlay" in the lead section.
CGPPlay on YouTube and CGPGrey2 on YouTube — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnonymousNerd ( talk • contribs) 20:19, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
This "vice-host" joke is getting disruptive. We can't write the article in made up words as the readers won't know what we are talking about and that defeats the point of having an article, or indeed an encyclopaedia. This is not about our egos or preferences, we have to write what the readers will find comprehensible and informative. In this case the word "cohost" could simply be omitted. We could explain this "vice-host" joke very briefly (and I do mean literally only one short sentence) in the HI article but I don't see any point in having it here. As for the claim that it is somehow an "official" title that we are bound to follow... What can I say? Go look up "official" in a dictionary maybe?
Also, I would like to reiterate that some HI fans risk writing such nonsense that they risk making Grey, Haran and HI look stupid. We really do not want to make them look stupid, or to do anything to damage their reputations, so this nonsense has to be removed. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 14:26, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
This article is about both the person and channel, and he is a somewhat public figure (in that he has done meet & greets, was/is a teacher [he even said his students knew about his channel in at least one episode], etc. and so secrecy isn't key to his persona like it is for Banksy.) His name is easily found in a reliable source by looking at the UK business registrations for "Grey Industries Limited" and "Hello Internet LLP" (redacted). His name is redacted Grey and he was born in April 1981. I see no reason why this shouldn't be included in a biography about him. Coinmanj ( talk) 04:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
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Add the following sentence to the end of the first paragraph under the 'Hello Internet' section: "As of August 2017, Brady suggested the podcast's listenership had increased to 900,000 downloads per episode."
Citation: "Haran, Brady; Grey, CGP (2017-08-24). "Banana Republic". Hello Internet (Podcast). Hellointernet.fm. Retrieved 2017-09-26." Scboon ( talk) 21:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Citation Timestamp: 1:09:40 Scboon ( talk) 21:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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The order of the professions that CGP Gray is involved in should be changed tow where Podcasting comes before youtuber. Granticus96 ( talk) 18:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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voting system used for hello internet flag vote was "Instant-runoff" not "Single transferable" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent114 ( talk • contribs) 10:10, December 7, 2017 (UTC)
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Dear Internet, here is a straw poll to decide the first line: http://www.strawpoll.me/15622852/r (If this is against wiki rules or there is a proper way to do this on wikipedia - please message me) Mindi Crayon ( talk) 21:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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Added vlogger according to a newly posted video. 07h3rw153 ( talk) 17:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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i would like to raise awareness to the wikipedia community of a new business that cgp grey is involved in. [1]
he is a founding member of Standard.tv .
I don't know how to include this in the article, but i thought that someone with more experience would be able to add it into the page.
thanks
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zchrykng the page that i linked to - standard.tv/pages/about is a source from the company which mentions cgp grey as a founding member. Is this enough? The website also sells Hello Internet merch, as well as merch from a bunch of other podcasts/ youtubers that it represents, so I don't think it can be fake.
but I understand, since there's no external websites that talk about it, it is very easy to doubt.
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15:10, 5 October 2018 (UTC)I've added a sentence to report that CGP Grey appears to be taking a break from internet production. Pity. I do hope he returns. Tony (talk) 10:19, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
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I wish to update the statistics, in particular: CGP Grey: 405 Million View - 407 Million Views CGP Play : 389,000 views to 390,000 views Muffington ( talk) 20:13, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Change "The podcast has an "official" flag ..." to "The podcast has an official flag...", as it is referred to as 'official flag' (without quotes) in several other articles, and in another spot in this same article. FiliusBonacci ( talk) 02:20, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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I wish to update the statistics, in particular: CGP Grey : 405 Million View - 407 Million Views [2]
CGP Play : 389,000 views to 390,000 views [3] Muffington ( talk) 14:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Given the BLP primary sources tag at the top of the article, perhaps this Independent article [6] could be added as a reference? -- 58.8.168.152 ( talk) 20:47, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
@ CGPGrey: Could you please license File:CGP Grey stick figure.png under CC-BY-4.0? It's starting to become a problem since the file is not technically free to use. – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 15:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, I also want to discuss if the current usage is truly unacceptable. Genuine question, where is the policy that does not allow non-free images to be used as an identifying picture, and what are the exceptions you mention? The WP:NFCC seem to be entirely fulfilled, hence why I reverted it in the first place. I apologize if I am entirely in the wrong, but I want to be sure before we get rid of an an image that has served the article well for quite a long time now (and has not been contested by the copyright holder who is semi-active on Wikipedia). Also pinging the uploader of the image, IagoQnsi and MJL who seems interested in this topic. Cerebral726 ( talk) 14:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
After being speedy deleted, the image has now been restored and WP:FFDed: Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 January 22 Ionmars10 ( talk) 03:10, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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Never mind, he doesn't want his full name on Wikipedia. 24jiang14 ( talk) 19:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Update CGP Grey channel views from 470 million to 533 million per https://www.youtube.com/user/CGPGrey/about. Giraffer ( talk) 08:17, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Grey uploads his content on YouTube and also distributes it via rss. Won’t it be more appropriate to call him a content creator than a YouTuber then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesidhantgoyal ( talk • contribs) 04:40, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Speaking of content creators, in the Youtube Information box called associated acts, I feel like it is the wrong word. Associated creators, or associated content creators would be better. - Chavoryn, Nov 16 2020
I see. If it's a generic template used for many personalities, then I don't think it's a problem. - Chavoryn Nov 19 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.223.194 ( talk) 03:03, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
CGP Grey has revealed his face, and I think it would be appropriate to put a photo of his face in the article, but I wanted to hear input from others. Ethan Parmet ( talk) 19:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately it goes against the interest of the encyclopedia as a whole if decisions like these are done by fans of his work. If the picture is in the public domain, it shouldn't be restricted by it. Rodrigo Duderte, por example, has a picture of him on his article and from his personality I am inclined to think he doesn't like it is there, giving some negative aspects of his administration that are depicted in the article. Yet it is there. His picture and his name isn't copyright and the decision to hide it is biased. -- 177.149.82.183 ( talk) 09:07, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Jochem van Hees: "CGP Grey" is not a pseudonym. See Companies House: "Grey" is the legally registered last name and "CGP" are the initials of the first and middle names. Sorting CGP Grey under "Grey" is correct. feminist (+) 14:08, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
I think the non-copyrighted geometric logo (Pictured) is better than a copyrighted fair-use screenshot. QuickQuokka [ talk • contribs 13:38, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
The biography of a person should include their age 2A02:C7E:3EDE:BB00:B987:AD8B:24B9:D7E0 ( talk) 19:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
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should this section be in or not? Please explain why you think yes or no.
He is very secretive about his appearance, often having his face blurred out or hidden when he appears in other people's videos. [1] He also chooses to represent himself as a stickman with square glasses in his "thoughts from the screen" vlog-series. He has said that he "very highly" values his anonymity. He explains this by saying that he likes "being able to walk through the streets of London at night without being recognised and "not having my face in the videos forces me to me to concentrate much more on the visual side of an explanation for particular topic so I can't just shoot myself talking about it." [2]
In most of the videos that Grey does, he includes a hidden Creeper in the video game Minecraft. Should this be added in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoredomJS ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Done. The edit I made was pretty messy, so feel free to alter it. 2.102.81.45 ( talk) 20:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
When I said 'alter' I did not mean 'remove completely'. Kindly notify me if you plan on deleting my work, or at least provide some justification. (The reason my I.P. address is different is that I made the first edit using my ipod.) 88.104.241.72 ( talk) 21:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I realise that the name is sourced to a news article, but i am unconvinced that it could be said to be his name as he has never stated it and has said multiple times that he values his privacy. Nor does the news article appear to have any source for the name, suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.230.140.138 ( talk) 19:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm the person who added his name. Sorry about that. Jinkinson ( talk) 04:15, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
This article is about Grey's videos and to a much lesser extent Grey himself, so why does his HI podcast encompass more than half of the article? I understand that it is his podcast, but it also Brady Haran's podcast. They are collaborators on Hello Internet, yet there is no mention of the podcast on Haran's article. Any suggestions on what to do about this? Soulbust ( talk) 19:58, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Grey made a live appearance last month. We have an image of him at the event. He has held back on publishing images of himself so far. There are fans that have gone out to look for images of him, and regretted it. [4]. I don't think it would be prudent to post this image of him onto his wikipedia page. If there is some way of initially hiding the image, like was proposed for graphical content, that would be best I think. -- 1Veertje ( talk) 15:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
It seems inconsistent what we are using for references. Shouldn't we just point to youtube itself like we do for Tropes vs. Women in Video Games? Zero Serenity ( talk - contributions) 18:08, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
I thought there was a no primary sources principle? There a lot of youtubers who have had there pages deleted for this issue. 131.227.165.186 ( talk) 14:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
As 192.43.244.42 pointed out, this article is about the channel, not the person. For this reason, the article title should be "CGP Grey", instead of "C. G. P. Grey". The periods and spaces seem to be vestigial elements, from when the article was about the person, not the channel. User:Robsinden most recently moved this article to its current state, citing "per our MOS and per official website", though the official website is about C. G. P. Grey the person, and not CGP Grey the channel. The channel (and related branding) goes by "CGP Grey", so the article title should reflect that. If no one has anything to say about this, I'll move the article to CGP Grey in a few days. — Rutlandbaconsouthamptonshakespeare ( talk) 16:09, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
As the article stood, it was formatted to center on the channel, not the person. I've now gone and rephrased/reformatted things to turn it more biographical; however, the following issues have arisen:
— Rutlandbaconsouthamptonshakespeare ( talk) 02:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Should the list of videos exist in its current form, or should the more notable ones be cherry-picked and made into prose? By "more notable" I merely mean the ones that have a significant amount of coverage (yes I know almost all do, but more significant). I'm more than happy to write it up myself, I just didn't fell like I had enough boldness in me to write something that may be discarded. Kharkiv07 ( T) 03:36, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I know that the section is here because the content was merged rather than deleted, but I find it quite inappropriate to put the Hello Internet content solely on this article. Hello Internet is a collaboration between CGP Grey and Brady Haran, not a project by CGP Grey that features Brady Haran. It's certainly a good idea to mention Grey's contributions to the podcast here, but I really don't think the primary destination for Hello Internet should be this article. If it doesn't meet notability requirements for its own article, then it shouldn't try and continue to try to be a pseudo-article here. -- Snorlax Monster 15:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
-- ElleExtreme ( talk) 20:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
This has to be it's own article, it makes no sense at all to put it there. Brady Haran is as important to the podcast as his CGPGrey. It's very arbitrary to put in on Grey's page rather than his. This is confusing. You did that because it's Grey who edits it? Since when is that the criterion?
Now, there's no problem of notability as the podcast has been mentioned on many outlets, including Slate, BBC News, Tech Times and Tech Crunch. It was nominated for a Podcast Award.
Podcasts similar or lesser in their outreach and notability already have their own articles : 99% Invisible, Stuff You Should Know, Reply All, Grammar Girl, Song Exploder, etc, etc.
There's no reason to keep it as it is. There's a ton of stuff to say about HI and it would make a great article on it's own.
Docteur ( talk) 16:36, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
I agree, especially since there has been a legal agreement on the co-owned rights of the podcast by the parts, C.G.P Grey and Brady Haran. The podcast is now also reaching enough significance (as mentioned in the article) that I find it relevant to separate it from the respective YouTube channels. This agrument is reinforced by them being different mediums, and it, through the podcast, has been confirmed that there are exclusive audiences to both. -- ElleExtreme ( talk) 20:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
@ Moonsprite: Welcome to WP:BRD. You've been entirely too bold and I've reverted you. Grey doesn't want to be identified. While you may think you're improving the article, I don't think it's worth causing headaches for others. We need to come to consensus about this before this sort of information can be added. Chris Troutman ( talk) 20:41, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
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I previously edited this page poorly. I have revised what I be believe should be put in, this should be included in the hello internet section as the flag rebellion is a growing topic on the podcast and some background knowledge (that new listeners may not have) is required to understand parts of the show. I also think, although less necessary there should be a picture of the flag in the section. Even if you do not use what I have written it would be wise to include a section. Anyway here it is:
The Flag Rebellion The flag rebellion or the fight for the alleged one true flag, is the campaign to get the "Flaggy Flag" design officially recognised as the flag of the Hello Internet podcast. The main cause of rebellion is that many support what one co host said: flaggy flag is more old fashioned and traditional - Brady Haran[1], so it would suit the podcast that often talks about flags. It is also said to have a more professional appearance than the so-called cheap design of "Nail and Gear" flag - these are some of the points presented by the people of the rebellion, and are to be viewed with that in mind. History of Flaggy Flag: It was originally designed and put on the HI subreddit then was later put on the flag shortlist only to come in a second. However that was not the end, the flag latter went on to become the center of the rebellion.
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Separate the Hello Internet page and the CGP Grey page, so that Hello Internet no longer directly links here. This will allow the creation of a specific page for the podcast Hello Internet, as per the request of CGP Grey in his most recent Podcast. TheJoKr88 ( talk)theJokr88 TheJoKr88 ( talk) 12:45, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
As Chris troutman said above, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a useful argument when discussing inclusion decisions: it is possible that many of those wouldn't survive an AFD. A very quick look shows me that many of those articles are very old, which is an explanation for their initial creation. Additionally, many of them are tagged as possibly not notable too. — crh 23 ( Talk) 08:07, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
"Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity". In my honest opinion, I think the standards for notability are sometimes too stringent, but that won't change how the community at large considers an article. — crh 23 ( Talk) 07:36, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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In the intro, the mention of Hello internet should link to /info/en/?search=Hello_Internet I would also remove the link on the word "podcast" to not have two links one after the other. 74.15.150.237 ( talk) 15:08, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
I think it would be better to make this article about the youtube channel, not the person. I get why Vi Hart would be about the person and not the youtube channel. We actually know something about the person and she is known for other things than the youtube stuff. But here that's just not the case. It would be like making an article about Henry Reich, only known for minutephysics.
I'd hapily make the needed changes. I just didn't want to do it without consensus from the rest of the contributors. Amphicoelias ( talk) 19:16, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
All the information in this Talk page clearly indicates that this article is about the CGPGrey YouTube channel, not C. G. P. Grey the person, as C. G. P. Grey does not meet the notability requirements for an article about himself (?). If that is indeed still that case, this article is in need to some major reworking to refocus it on the channel. I'm happy to do some of the work, but I don't want to make a unilateral decision on the content of the article. Gk007 ( talk) 18:12, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Is it noteworthy enough to perhaps include a mention to CGP Grey's alt channel, CGPGrey2? There isn't much significance, but he does have a large viewership on the videos he posts there. I think it could belong in the Infobox to contain its statistics and URL link in YouTube information section.
Somewhat unrelated to my first point, CGP Grey is used on the article to refer to the person, while CGPGrey is used to refer to the YouTube channel name. However, his current YouTube channel is CGP Grey with a space between CGP and Grey. Looking back at his channel's name (using the Internet Archive Wayback Machine) it shows that it was formerly called C.G.P. Grey in October 2013, became CGPGrey on around 2 November 2013, and then was switched to CGP Grey on around 11 November 2013, remaining with a space ever since. I think that the instances of CGPGrey in the article be switched to CGP Grey to correctly match his channel's display name. Side note: the channel banner features C. G. P. Grey throughout all the channel name changes.
I'm just hesitant to make the edits until I get some agreement or consensus; I don't want to get other editors upset. — TheAnonymousNerd ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Looking at the recent edits, we will probably need to include some information about Grey's livestreaming (which was not listed on here until he streamed a couple of days ago). The header says he livestreams under the channel "CGPPlay". However, there are only 3 videos on CGPPlay and I was wondering how often he actually streams on there. His two most recent streams were on CGPGrey2 so perhaps that should replace "CGPPlay" in the lead section.
CGPPlay on YouTube and CGPGrey2 on YouTube — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnonymousNerd ( talk • contribs) 20:19, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
This "vice-host" joke is getting disruptive. We can't write the article in made up words as the readers won't know what we are talking about and that defeats the point of having an article, or indeed an encyclopaedia. This is not about our egos or preferences, we have to write what the readers will find comprehensible and informative. In this case the word "cohost" could simply be omitted. We could explain this "vice-host" joke very briefly (and I do mean literally only one short sentence) in the HI article but I don't see any point in having it here. As for the claim that it is somehow an "official" title that we are bound to follow... What can I say? Go look up "official" in a dictionary maybe?
Also, I would like to reiterate that some HI fans risk writing such nonsense that they risk making Grey, Haran and HI look stupid. We really do not want to make them look stupid, or to do anything to damage their reputations, so this nonsense has to be removed. -- DanielRigal ( talk) 14:26, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
This article is about both the person and channel, and he is a somewhat public figure (in that he has done meet & greets, was/is a teacher [he even said his students knew about his channel in at least one episode], etc. and so secrecy isn't key to his persona like it is for Banksy.) His name is easily found in a reliable source by looking at the UK business registrations for "Grey Industries Limited" and "Hello Internet LLP" (redacted). His name is redacted Grey and he was born in April 1981. I see no reason why this shouldn't be included in a biography about him. Coinmanj ( talk) 04:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
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Add the following sentence to the end of the first paragraph under the 'Hello Internet' section: "As of August 2017, Brady suggested the podcast's listenership had increased to 900,000 downloads per episode."
Citation: "Haran, Brady; Grey, CGP (2017-08-24). "Banana Republic". Hello Internet (Podcast). Hellointernet.fm. Retrieved 2017-09-26." Scboon ( talk) 21:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Citation Timestamp: 1:09:40 Scboon ( talk) 21:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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The order of the professions that CGP Gray is involved in should be changed tow where Podcasting comes before youtuber. Granticus96 ( talk) 18:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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voting system used for hello internet flag vote was "Instant-runoff" not "Single transferable" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent114 ( talk • contribs) 10:10, December 7, 2017 (UTC)
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Dear Internet, here is a straw poll to decide the first line: http://www.strawpoll.me/15622852/r (If this is against wiki rules or there is a proper way to do this on wikipedia - please message me) Mindi Crayon ( talk) 21:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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Added vlogger according to a newly posted video. 07h3rw153 ( talk) 17:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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i would like to raise awareness to the wikipedia community of a new business that cgp grey is involved in. [1]
he is a founding member of Standard.tv .
I don't know how to include this in the article, but i thought that someone with more experience would be able to add it into the page.
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zchrykng the page that i linked to - standard.tv/pages/about is a source from the company which mentions cgp grey as a founding member. Is this enough? The website also sells Hello Internet merch, as well as merch from a bunch of other podcasts/ youtubers that it represents, so I don't think it can be fake.
but I understand, since there's no external websites that talk about it, it is very easy to doubt.
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15:10, 5 October 2018 (UTC)I've added a sentence to report that CGP Grey appears to be taking a break from internet production. Pity. I do hope he returns. Tony (talk) 10:19, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
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I wish to update the statistics, in particular: CGP Grey: 405 Million View - 407 Million Views CGP Play : 389,000 views to 390,000 views Muffington ( talk) 20:13, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Change "The podcast has an "official" flag ..." to "The podcast has an official flag...", as it is referred to as 'official flag' (without quotes) in several other articles, and in another spot in this same article. FiliusBonacci ( talk) 02:20, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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I wish to update the statistics, in particular: CGP Grey : 405 Million View - 407 Million Views [2]
CGP Play : 389,000 views to 390,000 views [3] Muffington ( talk) 14:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Given the BLP primary sources tag at the top of the article, perhaps this Independent article [6] could be added as a reference? -- 58.8.168.152 ( talk) 20:47, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
@ CGPGrey: Could you please license File:CGP Grey stick figure.png under CC-BY-4.0? It's starting to become a problem since the file is not technically free to use. – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 15:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, I also want to discuss if the current usage is truly unacceptable. Genuine question, where is the policy that does not allow non-free images to be used as an identifying picture, and what are the exceptions you mention? The WP:NFCC seem to be entirely fulfilled, hence why I reverted it in the first place. I apologize if I am entirely in the wrong, but I want to be sure before we get rid of an an image that has served the article well for quite a long time now (and has not been contested by the copyright holder who is semi-active on Wikipedia). Also pinging the uploader of the image, IagoQnsi and MJL who seems interested in this topic. Cerebral726 ( talk) 14:17, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
After being speedy deleted, the image has now been restored and WP:FFDed: Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 January 22 Ionmars10 ( talk) 03:10, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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Never mind, he doesn't want his full name on Wikipedia. 24jiang14 ( talk) 19:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Update CGP Grey channel views from 470 million to 533 million per https://www.youtube.com/user/CGPGrey/about. Giraffer ( talk) 08:17, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Grey uploads his content on YouTube and also distributes it via rss. Won’t it be more appropriate to call him a content creator than a YouTuber then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesidhantgoyal ( talk • contribs) 04:40, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Speaking of content creators, in the Youtube Information box called associated acts, I feel like it is the wrong word. Associated creators, or associated content creators would be better. - Chavoryn, Nov 16 2020
I see. If it's a generic template used for many personalities, then I don't think it's a problem. - Chavoryn Nov 19 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.223.194 ( talk) 03:03, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
CGP Grey has revealed his face, and I think it would be appropriate to put a photo of his face in the article, but I wanted to hear input from others. Ethan Parmet ( talk) 19:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately it goes against the interest of the encyclopedia as a whole if decisions like these are done by fans of his work. If the picture is in the public domain, it shouldn't be restricted by it. Rodrigo Duderte, por example, has a picture of him on his article and from his personality I am inclined to think he doesn't like it is there, giving some negative aspects of his administration that are depicted in the article. Yet it is there. His picture and his name isn't copyright and the decision to hide it is biased. -- 177.149.82.183 ( talk) 09:07, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Jochem van Hees: "CGP Grey" is not a pseudonym. See Companies House: "Grey" is the legally registered last name and "CGP" are the initials of the first and middle names. Sorting CGP Grey under "Grey" is correct. feminist (+) 14:08, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
I think the non-copyrighted geometric logo (Pictured) is better than a copyrighted fair-use screenshot. QuickQuokka [ talk • contribs 13:38, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
The biography of a person should include their age 2A02:C7E:3EDE:BB00:B987:AD8B:24B9:D7E0 ( talk) 19:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)