C. A. Clingenpeel was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that upon being named the head football coach at
Central College, C. A. Clingenpeel declared that "we will win one game this year" – and was correct?
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The result was: promoted by
Bruxton (
talk) 13:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Hi
BeanieFan11 (
talk); article created 17 February and exceeds minimum length; sources look reliable for the subject; I checked a couple and found no issue with overly close paraphrasing, Earwig is also happy; hook fact in article and checks out to source cited; image is fine and properly licensed, there is one in the article closer to the right time period but not as good. A few queries:
Death place stated in infobox is not in the main text and is uncited
Is there meant to be a source for the stats table?
Awaiting QPQ
All the best -
Dumelow (
talk) 21:20, 20 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Cited the death place, pinging @
Jweiss11: who added the table. I'll get the QPQ done soon.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 22:14, 20 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
"Although the 1932–33 basketball team was very inexperienced, Clingenpeel again brought them to the conference championship" did they win? Done
I was trying to originally say that they were conf champs - I tried to make it more clear now.
"He finished his tenure at Central with four football conference" infobox and table have 3
add his five basketball titles to infobox
@
WikiOriginal-9: Well, the sources are confusing me a bit. Looking at what I've written (and I looked through all their yearbooks), I see basketball championships in '28, '30, '32 and '33 (4 ≠ 5) and then, in football the records added by Jweiss include three championships, but, while those three were all correct, the
1927 yearbook (p. 99 in issuu) says they won a fourth while going undefeated in conference play in 1926, which the coaching table contradicts. Any ideas of how this should be managed?
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 01:06, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
so we have titles in 26, 28, 30, 32, 33, and 34??
WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 01:14, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
@
WikiOriginal-9: Basketball was at least '28, '30, '32 and '33 (4, but sources say 5), and then football was '28, '30 and '34 with the yearbook claiming '26 as well.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 01:22, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Maybe we should ask Jweiss what he thinks. He seems to be the expert on college coaches.
WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 01:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
But if you think 4 football and 4 bball are actually right, then that's good enough for me. Just add the sources and a note or two.
WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 01:29, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
"Central College (now Central Methodist) Hall of Fame" remove now central methodist, already said that earlier Done
Removed.
why does his playing spans in the infobox just say circa 1911, don't know the dates? Done
Haven't found the exact dates, only know that he was there in 1911.
i guess you didn't see his high school in your research? Done
Wasn't able to - his early life seemed pretty obscure.
in the infobox it says he coached baseball at central in circa 1930 but he was already coaching there earlier in the article Done
Added c. 1914 to infobox.
in regards to his first stint as central track coach, do you not know if he was coach the whole time like football? Is that why it says circa 1916? Done
Yes, I haven't found that he coached there every year so I said c. 1916.
we only know he coached central women in 1915 I guess? Done
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
C. A. Clingenpeel was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the
good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be
renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that upon being named the head football coach at
Central College, C. A. Clingenpeel declared that "we will win one game this year" – and was correct?
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The result was: promoted by
Bruxton (
talk) 13:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Hi
BeanieFan11 (
talk); article created 17 February and exceeds minimum length; sources look reliable for the subject; I checked a couple and found no issue with overly close paraphrasing, Earwig is also happy; hook fact in article and checks out to source cited; image is fine and properly licensed, there is one in the article closer to the right time period but not as good. A few queries:
Death place stated in infobox is not in the main text and is uncited
Is there meant to be a source for the stats table?
Awaiting QPQ
All the best -
Dumelow (
talk) 21:20, 20 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Cited the death place, pinging @
Jweiss11: who added the table. I'll get the QPQ done soon.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 22:14, 20 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
"Although the 1932–33 basketball team was very inexperienced, Clingenpeel again brought them to the conference championship" did they win? Done
I was trying to originally say that they were conf champs - I tried to make it more clear now.
"He finished his tenure at Central with four football conference" infobox and table have 3
add his five basketball titles to infobox
@
WikiOriginal-9: Well, the sources are confusing me a bit. Looking at what I've written (and I looked through all their yearbooks), I see basketball championships in '28, '30, '32 and '33 (4 ≠ 5) and then, in football the records added by Jweiss include three championships, but, while those three were all correct, the
1927 yearbook (p. 99 in issuu) says they won a fourth while going undefeated in conference play in 1926, which the coaching table contradicts. Any ideas of how this should be managed?
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 01:06, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
so we have titles in 26, 28, 30, 32, 33, and 34??
WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 01:14, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
@
WikiOriginal-9: Basketball was at least '28, '30, '32 and '33 (4, but sources say 5), and then football was '28, '30 and '34 with the yearbook claiming '26 as well.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 01:22, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Maybe we should ask Jweiss what he thinks. He seems to be the expert on college coaches.
WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 01:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
But if you think 4 football and 4 bball are actually right, then that's good enough for me. Just add the sources and a note or two.
WikiOriginal-9 (
talk) 01:29, 27 October 2023 (UTC)reply
"Central College (now Central Methodist) Hall of Fame" remove now central methodist, already said that earlier Done
Removed.
why does his playing spans in the infobox just say circa 1911, don't know the dates? Done
Haven't found the exact dates, only know that he was there in 1911.
i guess you didn't see his high school in your research? Done
Wasn't able to - his early life seemed pretty obscure.
in the infobox it says he coached baseball at central in circa 1930 but he was already coaching there earlier in the article Done
Added c. 1914 to infobox.
in regards to his first stint as central track coach, do you not know if he was coach the whole time like football? Is that why it says circa 1916? Done
Yes, I haven't found that he coached there every year so I said c. 1916.
we only know he coached central women in 1915 I guess? Done
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.