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C-Rations were still being used in 1983 when I left the Army in Germany as a Supply Specialist. I don't know where this information was found, but, since I was there, it just looks to me like most of this was just made up. Another example of a lot of words and little research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2CA8:6800:658C:3E0:E76E:7BCD ( talk) 11:41, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
You are correct we where still getting Australian Army C-Rations in 1983 and I believe after that as well. There where 5 A,B,C,D,E and maybe F.-- ArnoldHimmler ( talk) 21:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
I suppose this article is accurate in the sense that it makes the best sense possible from the gibberish in a US Army field manual. But, as an infantry veteran of Vietnam (1968-1969 9th Infantry) I can say that it really doesn't describe Cs very well.
A case of C-rations contained 12 boxes, each one represented a meal. So, a case had enough food for four men for a day, or one man for four days. Each case consisted of a carboard box, about the size of a case of beer, which was slid inside a cardboard sleeve. The whole case was bound with baling wire so the inner case wouldn't slide out of the sleeve. We used the three-pronged flash supressor on an M-16 rifle as a wrench to twist the wire and cut it. Otherwise we would not have been able to get at the rations inside.
Meals came in several different menus. There were two general layouts for a meal: the entre in a large can - about the size of can of Campbell's concentrated soup; the entre in a small can - a little larger than a small can of tuna. Of course some of the menus were more desirable than others. Ham and eggs were nearly inedible, most soldiers would rather go hungry than try to choke down that slimy, yellowy-gray mass. Other menus were better, none were delectible.
Some of the large-can meals were: Meatballs and beans. These were ordinary canned beans packed with meatballs to give the meal some heft. Spaghetti and meatballs. This was pretty similar to ordinary supermarket canned spaghetti. Beans and franks.
The small-can meals had a can about the diameter of a typical tuna can but somewhat higher, maybe two inches. Inside were patties of various meats. All these meals were acceptible. Some of these were: Ham, sliced, cooked and canned, water added. Pork. Turkey.
The large can meals came with a small can treat. Some of these were poundcake, crackers and cheese, crackers and peanut butter or jelly. The small can meals came with a large can treat. Some of these were fruit cocktail, canned peaches etc. It was considered especially lucky to draw a pair of meals with pound cake and fruit cocktail which were then eaten together.
The crackers and cheese, peanut butter,or jelly treats consisted of a outer can holding four or five crackers and an inner can filled with one or another of the various spreads. The trick was to open the outer can upside-down so the inner can could be removed without first removing all the crackers - we didn't have particularly clean hands. The inner can was then opened so the contents could be scooped out with the crackers.
In the mornings before moving out of our RON (remain overnight) position, we had to destroy anything of value to be left behind. This included food. We would build a fire from the cardboard C-ration cases. We'd punch a hole in any ration can to be left behind and toss it into the fire. The hole allowed steam to escape. Occasionally someone would throw in a cracker can with an unpunctured peanut butter/jelly/cheese inner can. The inner can would, of course, explode from steam build up spattering anyone around with the molten contents. This was termed a 'peanut butter claymore' and was considered very funny.
C-rations were monotonous. We ate them every day while we were in the field, which was almost always. I never got a hot meal delivered in the field despite what the Army says. Cs would be acceptible on an occasional basis, say a civilian on a weekend camping trip, but for everyday fare they were terrible.
Peter 70.253.173.49 ( talk) 14:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Why does the article not continue past 1958? Badagnani ( talk) 20:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Why was the "iron ration" called that if no iron was included in the food or its packaging? Badagnani ( talk) 20:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC) It was called an "iron ration" because its preserved contents "lasted like iron" Hotspur23 ( talk)
Strongly disagree on merging. For those of us who have had to eat C-rats for a month at a time, during a 21+ year career.... no way. C-rat should be a stand alone article because it is unique. It is a part of our history. It is not supporting any organization. And they do not around anymore. Keep it as a separate article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.184.143 ( talk) 02:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
A number of these articles seem enough in the way of stubs that merging them all would be unlikely to inflate the article to an unmanageable size, and it would be a good way to consolidate and reorganize the information somewhat haphazardly crammed into other articles (iron rations, etc). Anybody have any thoughts? 3-sphere ( talk) 08:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Each is worthy of their own article. Please do not merge them. Kingturtle ( talk) 12:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The articles are about the great advances made in development of the food ration and their impact on food technology. Merging all the varied articles into one simple entry makes no sense. Hotspur23 ( talk)
Also against merging the articles -the result would be too long and unwiedly, all the more so after the stubs are developed into longer articles. Also, giving any sort of narrative coherence to such an article would be extremely difficult -I've found that disentangling the history of C rations alone is very challenging, writing an article that encompasses the whole subject of American military rations in a holistic fashion (as opposed to simply being a bunch of seperate articles jumbled together on a single page) would be a challenge for some really top drawer editors who have a LOT of time to devote to the project (and possibly access to resources considerably beyond what is available on the net). An overview article that links to individual articles on more specific topics, as proposed by Octavia under "Main article idea", is on the other hand much more practical and useful. Lexington50 ( talk) 00:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Also against and agree. There's good information in each article, but there's too much overlap. These should be reviewed and unified somehow so they appear a part of a set, give information for each and some article giving general overview perhaps. Leave only the specifics about each ration type in the specific article. 85.23.51.77 ( talk) 09:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I have a proposal that will satisfy everyone (i hope). Make a main article under what ever heading History of rations of the military of the United States, History of rations of the military of the United States or some other name. Write a short summary of each ration pack (or merge the stubs), and add a link to the main articles of the longer ones. This would give a good overview of how the development of the ration packs to the present day packs, happened. Who agrees that this is a good idea? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 18:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Why not just reduce the definition of all "military rations" articles to just "food et by da millytarry". It will just continue the current intellectual trend by the troll community. Hotspur23 ( talk) 23:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
"The C ration was replaced in 1958 with the Meal Combat Individual (MCI). Although officially a new ration, the MCI was derived from and very similar to the original C ration, and in fact continued to be called "C rations" by American troops throughout its service life (1958-1980), although this nomenclature is, in a strictly technical sense, incorrect."
The date is wrong. I'm not certain where the author of the article obtain the dates, but 1980 is incorrect for the end of the C-rat service life.
While stationed in Germany with the US Army, we were issued C-rats through brigade supply well into 1983. I clearly remember when the MRE's began to replace C-rats. As the platoon toolman, I had some twenty cartons of C-rats in the platoon's tool trailer that lasted for just over a year after the MRE's began to arrive. When I left Germany in 1984, there was one carton left. TheOnlyChainsaw ( talk) 17:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)TheOnlyChainsaw
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C-Rations were still being used in 1983 when I left the Army in Germany as a Supply Specialist. I don't know where this information was found, but, since I was there, it just looks to me like most of this was just made up. Another example of a lot of words and little research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2CA8:6800:658C:3E0:E76E:7BCD ( talk) 11:41, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
You are correct we where still getting Australian Army C-Rations in 1983 and I believe after that as well. There where 5 A,B,C,D,E and maybe F.-- ArnoldHimmler ( talk) 21:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
I suppose this article is accurate in the sense that it makes the best sense possible from the gibberish in a US Army field manual. But, as an infantry veteran of Vietnam (1968-1969 9th Infantry) I can say that it really doesn't describe Cs very well.
A case of C-rations contained 12 boxes, each one represented a meal. So, a case had enough food for four men for a day, or one man for four days. Each case consisted of a carboard box, about the size of a case of beer, which was slid inside a cardboard sleeve. The whole case was bound with baling wire so the inner case wouldn't slide out of the sleeve. We used the three-pronged flash supressor on an M-16 rifle as a wrench to twist the wire and cut it. Otherwise we would not have been able to get at the rations inside.
Meals came in several different menus. There were two general layouts for a meal: the entre in a large can - about the size of can of Campbell's concentrated soup; the entre in a small can - a little larger than a small can of tuna. Of course some of the menus were more desirable than others. Ham and eggs were nearly inedible, most soldiers would rather go hungry than try to choke down that slimy, yellowy-gray mass. Other menus were better, none were delectible.
Some of the large-can meals were: Meatballs and beans. These were ordinary canned beans packed with meatballs to give the meal some heft. Spaghetti and meatballs. This was pretty similar to ordinary supermarket canned spaghetti. Beans and franks.
The small-can meals had a can about the diameter of a typical tuna can but somewhat higher, maybe two inches. Inside were patties of various meats. All these meals were acceptible. Some of these were: Ham, sliced, cooked and canned, water added. Pork. Turkey.
The large can meals came with a small can treat. Some of these were poundcake, crackers and cheese, crackers and peanut butter or jelly. The small can meals came with a large can treat. Some of these were fruit cocktail, canned peaches etc. It was considered especially lucky to draw a pair of meals with pound cake and fruit cocktail which were then eaten together.
The crackers and cheese, peanut butter,or jelly treats consisted of a outer can holding four or five crackers and an inner can filled with one or another of the various spreads. The trick was to open the outer can upside-down so the inner can could be removed without first removing all the crackers - we didn't have particularly clean hands. The inner can was then opened so the contents could be scooped out with the crackers.
In the mornings before moving out of our RON (remain overnight) position, we had to destroy anything of value to be left behind. This included food. We would build a fire from the cardboard C-ration cases. We'd punch a hole in any ration can to be left behind and toss it into the fire. The hole allowed steam to escape. Occasionally someone would throw in a cracker can with an unpunctured peanut butter/jelly/cheese inner can. The inner can would, of course, explode from steam build up spattering anyone around with the molten contents. This was termed a 'peanut butter claymore' and was considered very funny.
C-rations were monotonous. We ate them every day while we were in the field, which was almost always. I never got a hot meal delivered in the field despite what the Army says. Cs would be acceptible on an occasional basis, say a civilian on a weekend camping trip, but for everyday fare they were terrible.
Peter 70.253.173.49 ( talk) 14:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Why does the article not continue past 1958? Badagnani ( talk) 20:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Why was the "iron ration" called that if no iron was included in the food or its packaging? Badagnani ( talk) 20:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC) It was called an "iron ration" because its preserved contents "lasted like iron" Hotspur23 ( talk)
Strongly disagree on merging. For those of us who have had to eat C-rats for a month at a time, during a 21+ year career.... no way. C-rat should be a stand alone article because it is unique. It is a part of our history. It is not supporting any organization. And they do not around anymore. Keep it as a separate article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.184.143 ( talk) 02:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
A number of these articles seem enough in the way of stubs that merging them all would be unlikely to inflate the article to an unmanageable size, and it would be a good way to consolidate and reorganize the information somewhat haphazardly crammed into other articles (iron rations, etc). Anybody have any thoughts? 3-sphere ( talk) 08:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Each is worthy of their own article. Please do not merge them. Kingturtle ( talk) 12:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The articles are about the great advances made in development of the food ration and their impact on food technology. Merging all the varied articles into one simple entry makes no sense. Hotspur23 ( talk)
Also against merging the articles -the result would be too long and unwiedly, all the more so after the stubs are developed into longer articles. Also, giving any sort of narrative coherence to such an article would be extremely difficult -I've found that disentangling the history of C rations alone is very challenging, writing an article that encompasses the whole subject of American military rations in a holistic fashion (as opposed to simply being a bunch of seperate articles jumbled together on a single page) would be a challenge for some really top drawer editors who have a LOT of time to devote to the project (and possibly access to resources considerably beyond what is available on the net). An overview article that links to individual articles on more specific topics, as proposed by Octavia under "Main article idea", is on the other hand much more practical and useful. Lexington50 ( talk) 00:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Also against and agree. There's good information in each article, but there's too much overlap. These should be reviewed and unified somehow so they appear a part of a set, give information for each and some article giving general overview perhaps. Leave only the specifics about each ration type in the specific article. 85.23.51.77 ( talk) 09:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I have a proposal that will satisfy everyone (i hope). Make a main article under what ever heading History of rations of the military of the United States, History of rations of the military of the United States or some other name. Write a short summary of each ration pack (or merge the stubs), and add a link to the main articles of the longer ones. This would give a good overview of how the development of the ration packs to the present day packs, happened. Who agrees that this is a good idea? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 18:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Why not just reduce the definition of all "military rations" articles to just "food et by da millytarry". It will just continue the current intellectual trend by the troll community. Hotspur23 ( talk) 23:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
"The C ration was replaced in 1958 with the Meal Combat Individual (MCI). Although officially a new ration, the MCI was derived from and very similar to the original C ration, and in fact continued to be called "C rations" by American troops throughout its service life (1958-1980), although this nomenclature is, in a strictly technical sense, incorrect."
The date is wrong. I'm not certain where the author of the article obtain the dates, but 1980 is incorrect for the end of the C-rat service life.
While stationed in Germany with the US Army, we were issued C-rats through brigade supply well into 1983. I clearly remember when the MRE's began to replace C-rats. As the platoon toolman, I had some twenty cartons of C-rats in the platoon's tool trailer that lasted for just over a year after the MRE's began to arrive. When I left Germany in 1984, there was one carton left. TheOnlyChainsaw ( talk) 17:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)TheOnlyChainsaw
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The description under the photo of the opened “B” unit describes it as a 1941 can. In it, a chocolate fudge disk can be seen. However, in the article, it says that the chocolate fudge disk wasn’t added until 1944. Perhaps the photo is incorrectly dated? 2600:1005:B0C1:8A1B:5D:9AD1:FA6:94E9 ( talk) 14:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)