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I have maintained this page for several years. Another user is deleting a paragraph that is factually correct. I will work tomorrow on shoring up references. 73.179.75.199 ( talk) 23:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
I removed the sentences: "That the book served as an autobiography was confirmed in the 2012 biography of the Deweys, Pioneering Palm Beach: The Deweys and the South Florida Frontier, where the authors were able to match land records and events to the book's storyline. The Historical Society of Palm Beach County awarded the book the Fannie James Award for Pioneer Research Achievement." This statement is promotion for the book written by editor Flahistory. These statements are not in the citations, but in the text and are solely promotional and do not add to our understanding of Dewey. There are also errors on the page concerning whether creating a plat of a section of town constitutes "founding." The town of Boynton was referred to as "Boynton" for several years before the Deweys platted the town. It had a train station, a post office, farms, and was included in the federal census as "Boynton" before the Deweys platted their property in preparation for sale. (a plat is a map, drawn to scale, showing the divisions of a piece of land, including streets, blocks, and lots) It's not that I don't think that Byrd should not be celebrated, but aggrandizing her is mainly to promote her book. Flahistory has figured out who I am and has attempted to contact me several ways including social media. I am starting to feel harassed. Curiositykeeper ( talk) 11:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
I will let the Wikipedia dispute process work itself out. Flahistory ( talk) 20:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
No I am not contacting your employer. Let’s call a truce and end this. It’s silly. There are real problems to solve. This isn’t one of them. I’ve already spent way more time on this than I should have. I won’t spend a minute more. Flahistory ( talk) 22:56, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Pondering these things, we arrive at the truth, old as human feeling, that the only realities of life are the things that do not exist. What are called realities — life’s necessities — these never quicken the pulses, nor choke the breath with hurried heart-beats. But the intangibles — love, art, beauty, music, and again love; for love, in all its many kinds and degrees, is what gives meaning to art, beauty and music — these are the things that stir us to the depths — these are the things that grasp us with resistless power, dragging us up by the roots to throw us down quivering where we perish; or else take hold anew with our soul-fibers. Flahistory ( talk) 00:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Deeper, richer, fuller, better Flahistory ( talk) 01:07, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
I like to stand up for myself like you do. Being falsely accused of things is hard to take. I am working offline to gather more citations and will be working to improve the article but I’m in a catch 22. If I do that I will be seen as doing more self promotion. There is nothing here to promote. I tried to reason with the person who made the changes - I know this person professionally and greatly respected their work. I helped this person numerous times in identifying photos and historical events. If the person disagreed with my work, this person could have said hey let’s figure this out. But that is not what happened. Am I wrong that when you make substantive changes to an article that you are supposed to summarize them? Also, to say the person who is an expert on a subject should not work on the Wikipedia page doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve spent 10 years researching Dewey. Anyone else is welcome to add new information. But the edits I see are grammatical or formatting, not substantive. I will be adding upwards of 75 new references from newspapers, historical society documents and so on. It’s very difficult when the person in question will not help. Wikipedia can do what it wants; Mrs. Dewey’s legacy is firmly established. She was another woman to be erased and silenced like I’m trying to be silenced. A book I co-authored came out 10 years ago, and all proceeds go to the historical society. I don’t write books for a living, or to promote myself. I’m sorry, but I don’t compromise my principle for the truth - for Wikipedia or for anyone else. The quotes I gave that you said were puffery came from Mrs. Dewey. She has a word here too. Flahistory ( talk) 16:23, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Again, all my attempts to collegially discuss this with the party involved not only were not answered, but that person blocked me from contacting them on Wikipedia.Where? I looked in your edit history, and I'm not seeing any edits to either a user's talk page or an IP's. — C.Fred ( talk) 01:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you all for your input. Flahistory ( talk) 16:31, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
I am hoping to get to adding the additional references on Sunday. They are primarily newspaper references to back up stated facts. Thankfully, I didn’t write any 19th century newspaper articles. The assertion that I perhaps sent someone to stalk the the other person is here is slanderous and false. This is my last word here and I have no intention of contacting this person in the future. Flahistory ( talk) 23:45, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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I have maintained this page for several years. Another user is deleting a paragraph that is factually correct. I will work tomorrow on shoring up references. 73.179.75.199 ( talk) 23:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
I removed the sentences: "That the book served as an autobiography was confirmed in the 2012 biography of the Deweys, Pioneering Palm Beach: The Deweys and the South Florida Frontier, where the authors were able to match land records and events to the book's storyline. The Historical Society of Palm Beach County awarded the book the Fannie James Award for Pioneer Research Achievement." This statement is promotion for the book written by editor Flahistory. These statements are not in the citations, but in the text and are solely promotional and do not add to our understanding of Dewey. There are also errors on the page concerning whether creating a plat of a section of town constitutes "founding." The town of Boynton was referred to as "Boynton" for several years before the Deweys platted the town. It had a train station, a post office, farms, and was included in the federal census as "Boynton" before the Deweys platted their property in preparation for sale. (a plat is a map, drawn to scale, showing the divisions of a piece of land, including streets, blocks, and lots) It's not that I don't think that Byrd should not be celebrated, but aggrandizing her is mainly to promote her book. Flahistory has figured out who I am and has attempted to contact me several ways including social media. I am starting to feel harassed. Curiositykeeper ( talk) 11:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
I will let the Wikipedia dispute process work itself out. Flahistory ( talk) 20:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
No I am not contacting your employer. Let’s call a truce and end this. It’s silly. There are real problems to solve. This isn’t one of them. I’ve already spent way more time on this than I should have. I won’t spend a minute more. Flahistory ( talk) 22:56, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Pondering these things, we arrive at the truth, old as human feeling, that the only realities of life are the things that do not exist. What are called realities — life’s necessities — these never quicken the pulses, nor choke the breath with hurried heart-beats. But the intangibles — love, art, beauty, music, and again love; for love, in all its many kinds and degrees, is what gives meaning to art, beauty and music — these are the things that stir us to the depths — these are the things that grasp us with resistless power, dragging us up by the roots to throw us down quivering where we perish; or else take hold anew with our soul-fibers. Flahistory ( talk) 00:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Deeper, richer, fuller, better Flahistory ( talk) 01:07, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
I like to stand up for myself like you do. Being falsely accused of things is hard to take. I am working offline to gather more citations and will be working to improve the article but I’m in a catch 22. If I do that I will be seen as doing more self promotion. There is nothing here to promote. I tried to reason with the person who made the changes - I know this person professionally and greatly respected their work. I helped this person numerous times in identifying photos and historical events. If the person disagreed with my work, this person could have said hey let’s figure this out. But that is not what happened. Am I wrong that when you make substantive changes to an article that you are supposed to summarize them? Also, to say the person who is an expert on a subject should not work on the Wikipedia page doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve spent 10 years researching Dewey. Anyone else is welcome to add new information. But the edits I see are grammatical or formatting, not substantive. I will be adding upwards of 75 new references from newspapers, historical society documents and so on. It’s very difficult when the person in question will not help. Wikipedia can do what it wants; Mrs. Dewey’s legacy is firmly established. She was another woman to be erased and silenced like I’m trying to be silenced. A book I co-authored came out 10 years ago, and all proceeds go to the historical society. I don’t write books for a living, or to promote myself. I’m sorry, but I don’t compromise my principle for the truth - for Wikipedia or for anyone else. The quotes I gave that you said were puffery came from Mrs. Dewey. She has a word here too. Flahistory ( talk) 16:23, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Again, all my attempts to collegially discuss this with the party involved not only were not answered, but that person blocked me from contacting them on Wikipedia.Where? I looked in your edit history, and I'm not seeing any edits to either a user's talk page or an IP's. — C.Fred ( talk) 01:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you all for your input. Flahistory ( talk) 16:31, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
I am hoping to get to adding the additional references on Sunday. They are primarily newspaper references to back up stated facts. Thankfully, I didn’t write any 19th century newspaper articles. The assertion that I perhaps sent someone to stalk the the other person is here is slanderous and false. This is my last word here and I have no intention of contacting this person in the future. Flahistory ( talk) 23:45, 24 June 2022 (UTC)