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I added some current info, and changed a few things, please feel free to clean up, this is a ongoing project
also i listed Office of Indian Affairs to the info box preceding agency's not sure if this works since Bureau of Indian Affairs evolved from the first. -- Vlarian559 ( talk) 06:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
In addition to a criticism section, this article needs to mention the thousands of hard working and well meaning teachers, nurses and doctors that have worked to educate and enrich the lives of Native Americans over the decades this agency has been in existence. Have they all been good people? No! Have they always done the right thing in our “politically enlightened” eyes? No! But many of them felt they were doing the best they could to help. And in many cases they made a positive difference. Ask the many tribal leaders and state politicians that were educated by Bureau teachers. Ask the many people whose lives were saved in Indian Health Service Hospitals. And ask yourself where would Native Americans be now if not for the bureau? Many tribes would simply have ceased to exist; gobbled up by their surrounding state governments. Was it a good system? No, but it was better than total neglect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.202.96.27 ( talk) 19:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
This article is barely beyond a stub. I can't imagine a very short history and description is satisfactorily. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.230.54.237 ( talk) 06:55, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
In a notice on the Bureau of Indian Affairs website it clearly states the BIA website and email servers are down until further notice due to the Cobell Litigation. You cannot navigate to any of the BIA pages therefore this notice should stay up. The only thing apparently that is available on this page is Non-BIA related pages. In the future before making reverts or changes regarding the BIA website please post a message here first for discussion. Misterrick 02:49, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Links have been Restored way since. -- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 16:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
We don't yet have an article Indian agent and the term is not even mentioned in this article. - Jmabel | Talk 07:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Granted, I was just skimming this article, but I don't see a single word of criticism here. What is up with that? This article needs serious expansion including a criticism section. And why isn't the AIM occupation of their offices mentioned in the history section? Ok, I should stop complaining and actually do something, but I'm too busy writing a term paper due in about 8 hours on the occupation of Alcatraz, so I gotta get back to work. But this really needs to be addressed. And on a related note, the Alcatraz article could due with some expanding--heck, the occupation deserves its own article IMO. Ungovernable Force Got something to say? 10:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Done been added already.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 01:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't this website cite its references? There are no source citations whatsoever. Isn't that a pretty major Wikipedia guideline?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macduffman ( talk • contribs) 20:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
It's 2009 and we're still using the term "Indian" throughout? I realize that it, in fact, is the official name of the agency. Imagine if the US government applied this logic to all groups, and started a "Bureau of Nigger Affairs" as well -- complete with a logo of watermelons and fried chicken.
Ok, I've cooled down a bit, but I have to agree with "The Ungovernale Force"'s comments just above; there needs to be more criticism included in this article. Mike the Pharmacist ( talk) 00:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
here's your reference for the BIA - "The BIA was officially created on June 30, 1834. At first, the bureau was under the administration of the Department of War and later moved to the Department of the Interior (DOI). Historically, the bureau implemented and carried out the United States government policies of extermination, assimilation, termination and self-determination on American Indians and their land resources (Jackson & Galli, 1977) see http://www.igi-global.com/viewtitlesample.aspx?id=23558 As far as the term "Redskins", http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/redskins/2009-05-15-mascot-lawsuit_N.htm "The Washington Redskins won another legal victory Friday in a 17-year fight with a group of American Indians who argue the football team's trademark is racially offensive." We're considered the "politically correct type" when it doesn't go along with your perception. If it doesn't bother you, why not change the name to the "Washington Whiteskins"? Ramapoughnative ( talk) 22:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Lol!! Lenape in Pa? Are you a Tribal Card carrying member of a Tribe in Pa.? No. There are no valid Lenape Tribes in Pa., so your objection is moot. Ramapoughnative ( talk) 20:40, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Your ignorance is excused: See here: Lenape Nation in PA-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 18:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Just because we are not recognized by the federal lack of government doesn't mean that we do not exist. We have been trying for federal recognition for decades.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 07:13, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Mention should be made of the various attempts to abolish the BIA on the grounds that it is a too unique government agency. There is no Bureau of Caucasion Affairs nor a Bureau of Hispanic Affairs, et al. The organization which claims to represent blacks is called the NAACP and it is a private organization. I have copies of several pamphlets quoting these alleged documents and others claiming they exist.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 15:35, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramapoughnative ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
How come my Encarta encyclopedia says that the BIA was transferred to the Cherokee just before ww1? 208.96.111.56 ( talk) 02:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
How many Native Americans were appointed Commissioner of the Bureau of Indian Affairs? Cmguy777 ( talk) 01:31, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The comment, "Some were beaten for worshiping their own creator god." should be moved to a criticism section once it exists, if it is important at all. All schools would often discipline children physically at this point in history.
"being authoritarian" is not - last I heard - a crime. The article claims he was charged so. No, he was accused -almost certainly by only some critics - of being (or possibly just criticized for being) an authoritarian (I presume). This incorrect sentence appears in the Reform and mid-late 20th Century section. Since I don't have any references, I don't feel I should correct it, although it almost certainly is wrong. 71.30.94.234 ( talk) 23:00, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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I added some current info, and changed a few things, please feel free to clean up, this is a ongoing project
also i listed Office of Indian Affairs to the info box preceding agency's not sure if this works since Bureau of Indian Affairs evolved from the first. -- Vlarian559 ( talk) 06:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
In addition to a criticism section, this article needs to mention the thousands of hard working and well meaning teachers, nurses and doctors that have worked to educate and enrich the lives of Native Americans over the decades this agency has been in existence. Have they all been good people? No! Have they always done the right thing in our “politically enlightened” eyes? No! But many of them felt they were doing the best they could to help. And in many cases they made a positive difference. Ask the many tribal leaders and state politicians that were educated by Bureau teachers. Ask the many people whose lives were saved in Indian Health Service Hospitals. And ask yourself where would Native Americans be now if not for the bureau? Many tribes would simply have ceased to exist; gobbled up by their surrounding state governments. Was it a good system? No, but it was better than total neglect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.202.96.27 ( talk) 19:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
This article is barely beyond a stub. I can't imagine a very short history and description is satisfactorily. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.230.54.237 ( talk) 06:55, August 20, 2007 (UTC)
In a notice on the Bureau of Indian Affairs website it clearly states the BIA website and email servers are down until further notice due to the Cobell Litigation. You cannot navigate to any of the BIA pages therefore this notice should stay up. The only thing apparently that is available on this page is Non-BIA related pages. In the future before making reverts or changes regarding the BIA website please post a message here first for discussion. Misterrick 02:49, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Links have been Restored way since. -- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 16:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
We don't yet have an article Indian agent and the term is not even mentioned in this article. - Jmabel | Talk 07:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Granted, I was just skimming this article, but I don't see a single word of criticism here. What is up with that? This article needs serious expansion including a criticism section. And why isn't the AIM occupation of their offices mentioned in the history section? Ok, I should stop complaining and actually do something, but I'm too busy writing a term paper due in about 8 hours on the occupation of Alcatraz, so I gotta get back to work. But this really needs to be addressed. And on a related note, the Alcatraz article could due with some expanding--heck, the occupation deserves its own article IMO. Ungovernable Force Got something to say? 10:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Done been added already.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 01:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't this website cite its references? There are no source citations whatsoever. Isn't that a pretty major Wikipedia guideline?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macduffman ( talk • contribs) 20:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
It's 2009 and we're still using the term "Indian" throughout? I realize that it, in fact, is the official name of the agency. Imagine if the US government applied this logic to all groups, and started a "Bureau of Nigger Affairs" as well -- complete with a logo of watermelons and fried chicken.
Ok, I've cooled down a bit, but I have to agree with "The Ungovernale Force"'s comments just above; there needs to be more criticism included in this article. Mike the Pharmacist ( talk) 00:09, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
here's your reference for the BIA - "The BIA was officially created on June 30, 1834. At first, the bureau was under the administration of the Department of War and later moved to the Department of the Interior (DOI). Historically, the bureau implemented and carried out the United States government policies of extermination, assimilation, termination and self-determination on American Indians and their land resources (Jackson & Galli, 1977) see http://www.igi-global.com/viewtitlesample.aspx?id=23558 As far as the term "Redskins", http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/redskins/2009-05-15-mascot-lawsuit_N.htm "The Washington Redskins won another legal victory Friday in a 17-year fight with a group of American Indians who argue the football team's trademark is racially offensive." We're considered the "politically correct type" when it doesn't go along with your perception. If it doesn't bother you, why not change the name to the "Washington Whiteskins"? Ramapoughnative ( talk) 22:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Lol!! Lenape in Pa? Are you a Tribal Card carrying member of a Tribe in Pa.? No. There are no valid Lenape Tribes in Pa., so your objection is moot. Ramapoughnative ( talk) 20:40, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Your ignorance is excused: See here: Lenape Nation in PA-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 18:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Just because we are not recognized by the federal lack of government doesn't mean that we do not exist. We have been trying for federal recognition for decades.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 07:13, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Mention should be made of the various attempts to abolish the BIA on the grounds that it is a too unique government agency. There is no Bureau of Caucasion Affairs nor a Bureau of Hispanic Affairs, et al. The organization which claims to represent blacks is called the NAACP and it is a private organization. I have copies of several pamphlets quoting these alleged documents and others claiming they exist.-- Degen Earthfast ( talk) 15:35, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramapoughnative ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
How come my Encarta encyclopedia says that the BIA was transferred to the Cherokee just before ww1? 208.96.111.56 ( talk) 02:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
How many Native Americans were appointed Commissioner of the Bureau of Indian Affairs? Cmguy777 ( talk) 01:31, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The comment, "Some were beaten for worshiping their own creator god." should be moved to a criticism section once it exists, if it is important at all. All schools would often discipline children physically at this point in history.
"being authoritarian" is not - last I heard - a crime. The article claims he was charged so. No, he was accused -almost certainly by only some critics - of being (or possibly just criticized for being) an authoritarian (I presume). This incorrect sentence appears in the Reform and mid-late 20th Century section. Since I don't have any references, I don't feel I should correct it, although it almost certainly is wrong. 71.30.94.234 ( talk) 23:00, 12 November 2023 (UTC)