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I'd like to see an entry for real minor leaguers that were extras in the film. WillC 23:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
The assumptions in this section are absurd without documentation. "Best Sports movie ever"? Maybe a candidate when it first came out and again when it hit cable TV, but it has been eclipsed by many others since then. Resurrected interest in minor league baseball? Says who? A much-greater argument can be made for oddball promotions than for BD. I quote BD all the time but I rarely hear it quoted by others--whereas I hear Office Space, Animal House and Jerry Maguire frequently. This section has the look of a fan's homage to his/her favorite--and therefore is very POV. Also, just info, but AAA is not one step away from the show. Follow baseball for any length of time and you will see that almost all callups now come from double-A ball.--Buckboard 06:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Who is to say either the Durham Bulls or the Birmingham Barons are the most popular teams in minor league baseball? I imagine they may be the best-known but the numbers in attendance and merchandise would say otherwise in terms of popularity.
I'm pretty sure that all of the quotes cited in the article are already listed in the Wikiquote link located at the bottom of the article but if some are missing, here is the section cut from the article. -- J.D. 20:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
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Nuke throws the ball at Crash, and misses badly.
I'm moving this section here until this stuff can be integrated (if possible) in other sections. - J.D. 23:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
As per the comments in the Peer Review, I've removed the Production info that was lifted out of the IMDB and placed it here until it can be properly sourced as info in the IMDB is notoriously unreliable.-- J.D. ( talk) 17:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
According to the Internet Movie Database, filming was done after the close of the regular season, during September and October of 1987. The length of the shadows during the day games subtly give away the time of year. Durham Athletic Park was, of course, used for most of the baseball action. There were also scenes filmed in other Carolina League cities, although one establishing shot of War Memorial Stadium in Greensboro, North Carolina was erroneous, because Greensboro's club was and is in the South Atlantic League. Also, Nuke's Major League interview at the end was shot in Arlington Stadium, the former home of the Texas Rangers.
The Durham Bull sign, once a staple at ballparks everywhere, was built specifically for the movie. Once filming was done, the bull was retained as a decoration, albeit in foul territory, and with a simple "Let's Go Bulls" instead of "Hit Sign Win Steak". Like the Hollywood Sign, this Durham Bull was not originally intended to be a long-lasting artifact, and was eventually replaced by a sturdier version. The new Durham Bulls Athletic Park also features the Durham Bull.
Aside from the sliding routine, the "rainout" scene was based on an actual event. In the late 1960s, Shelton played minor-league ball in the Texas League. Shelton's team was in Amarillo, Texas for a season-ending series. The night before the final game, Shelton, some teammates and some Amarillo players were out partying and decided to go to the stadium and turn on the sprinkler system, thereby flooding the field and ensuring a "rainout." However, the Amarillo team owner rented a helicopter, dried the field, and the game was played.
The intro section and Production section have some identical passages (as of July 2009). The intro. section passages should be paraphrased or deleted in favor of the detailed info. in the body section(s). Memetics ( talk) 13:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I just cut this paragraph from the Production section, that discusses a cut scene. It needs work, and I'm not sure it's notable enough; I don't have time to work on it myself, for the moment, anyway. It took Costner's words about 'black hookers' in the 'black whorehouse', and used them outside of any quote marks. It doesn't work for Wikipedia itself to use that vernacular. It could work as a quote. As I say, I'm not sure it's notable enough, but if editors feel it is, and want to rework it, it follows. Ale And Quail ( talk) 02:23, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
The scene in the pool hall where Nuke tells Crash that he is going to "the Show" was originally shot in a black whorehouse with Costner's character playing "[[Unchained Melody]]" on the piano to a 60-year-old hooker while drunk. Nuke came in and the two men fought in an alley with several black hookers cheering Crash on. Costner remembers, "The pool hall was somehow thought to be a better experience for the audience, because we didn't want to see him with a black woman, I guess. But it was perfectly in line with who he was".<ref name= "Vary, Adam">{{cite news | last = Vary | first = Adam B | coauthors = | title = My Brilliant Career: Kevin Costner | work = [[Entertainment Weekly]] | pages = | language = | publisher = | date = June 1, 2007 | url = http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20040664_5,00.html | accessdate = 2008-01-17 }}</ref>
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I'd like to see an entry for real minor leaguers that were extras in the film. WillC 23:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
The assumptions in this section are absurd without documentation. "Best Sports movie ever"? Maybe a candidate when it first came out and again when it hit cable TV, but it has been eclipsed by many others since then. Resurrected interest in minor league baseball? Says who? A much-greater argument can be made for oddball promotions than for BD. I quote BD all the time but I rarely hear it quoted by others--whereas I hear Office Space, Animal House and Jerry Maguire frequently. This section has the look of a fan's homage to his/her favorite--and therefore is very POV. Also, just info, but AAA is not one step away from the show. Follow baseball for any length of time and you will see that almost all callups now come from double-A ball.--Buckboard 06:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Who is to say either the Durham Bulls or the Birmingham Barons are the most popular teams in minor league baseball? I imagine they may be the best-known but the numbers in attendance and merchandise would say otherwise in terms of popularity.
I'm pretty sure that all of the quotes cited in the article are already listed in the Wikiquote link located at the bottom of the article but if some are missing, here is the section cut from the article. -- J.D. 20:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
This article contains
too many or overly lengthy quotations. (April 2008) |
Nuke throws the ball at Crash, and misses badly.
I'm moving this section here until this stuff can be integrated (if possible) in other sections. - J.D. 23:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
As per the comments in the Peer Review, I've removed the Production info that was lifted out of the IMDB and placed it here until it can be properly sourced as info in the IMDB is notoriously unreliable.-- J.D. ( talk) 17:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
According to the Internet Movie Database, filming was done after the close of the regular season, during September and October of 1987. The length of the shadows during the day games subtly give away the time of year. Durham Athletic Park was, of course, used for most of the baseball action. There were also scenes filmed in other Carolina League cities, although one establishing shot of War Memorial Stadium in Greensboro, North Carolina was erroneous, because Greensboro's club was and is in the South Atlantic League. Also, Nuke's Major League interview at the end was shot in Arlington Stadium, the former home of the Texas Rangers.
The Durham Bull sign, once a staple at ballparks everywhere, was built specifically for the movie. Once filming was done, the bull was retained as a decoration, albeit in foul territory, and with a simple "Let's Go Bulls" instead of "Hit Sign Win Steak". Like the Hollywood Sign, this Durham Bull was not originally intended to be a long-lasting artifact, and was eventually replaced by a sturdier version. The new Durham Bulls Athletic Park also features the Durham Bull.
Aside from the sliding routine, the "rainout" scene was based on an actual event. In the late 1960s, Shelton played minor-league ball in the Texas League. Shelton's team was in Amarillo, Texas for a season-ending series. The night before the final game, Shelton, some teammates and some Amarillo players were out partying and decided to go to the stadium and turn on the sprinkler system, thereby flooding the field and ensuring a "rainout." However, the Amarillo team owner rented a helicopter, dried the field, and the game was played.
The intro section and Production section have some identical passages (as of July 2009). The intro. section passages should be paraphrased or deleted in favor of the detailed info. in the body section(s). Memetics ( talk) 13:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I just cut this paragraph from the Production section, that discusses a cut scene. It needs work, and I'm not sure it's notable enough; I don't have time to work on it myself, for the moment, anyway. It took Costner's words about 'black hookers' in the 'black whorehouse', and used them outside of any quote marks. It doesn't work for Wikipedia itself to use that vernacular. It could work as a quote. As I say, I'm not sure it's notable enough, but if editors feel it is, and want to rework it, it follows. Ale And Quail ( talk) 02:23, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
The scene in the pool hall where Nuke tells Crash that he is going to "the Show" was originally shot in a black whorehouse with Costner's character playing "[[Unchained Melody]]" on the piano to a 60-year-old hooker while drunk. Nuke came in and the two men fought in an alley with several black hookers cheering Crash on. Costner remembers, "The pool hall was somehow thought to be a better experience for the audience, because we didn't want to see him with a black woman, I guess. But it was perfectly in line with who he was".<ref name= "Vary, Adam">{{cite news | last = Vary | first = Adam B | coauthors = | title = My Brilliant Career: Kevin Costner | work = [[Entertainment Weekly]] | pages = | language = | publisher = | date = June 1, 2007 | url = http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20040664_5,00.html | accessdate = 2008-01-17 }}</ref>
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