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""Money to EU (billions) section of contributiuons table"" Serious error in that if you arange the "Money to EU (billions)" collomn from most to least (or vice versa) it organizes only by the first number of each field, not by the actual value of the field. thus it might go 1, 137, 23 etc... 137 is more than 23! try playing with it if you don't see what i mean. Olyus ( talk) 10:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Member State contributions table
Why does the table showing contributions from member states not match the numbers displayed on the EU Budget report found on the Europa website. The Expenditure figures are identical to those shown on the report, but all contributions show a difference.
EU budget for 2006 and previous years found here -
http://ec.europa.eu/budget/library/publications/fin_reports/fin_report_06_en.pdf page 33 and 63.
How was the "total contribution" figures calculated and where did they come from?
Link for updating the information in this article. I don't see this linked or used here yet. Hope this is of any help. Show a total income of 140billion in 2014 and an expected 142billion in 2015.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/budget/www/index-en.htm 109.200.192.66 ( talk) 10:35, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Surely the budget of the European Union is the sum of the budgets of all its members. But this article is about the Budget of the European Union institutions. It seems to me that this is waht should be the title of the article. Comments? -- Red King ( talk) 01:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
European Union is not all countries of europe. EU is Organization with own budget. 213.164.125.109 ( talk) 19:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The EU levies huge fines, like the one on microsoft, and the ones on the member states such as france and greece. Where does this money go in the budget? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.157.136.194 ( talk) 11:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I've started on this with a table, but I can't get the final (per capita) column to sort properly. Can anyone help? Vinny Burgoo ( talk) 21:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The Annexe 4 of the document http://ec.europa.eu/budget/library/publications/fin_reports/fin_report_06_en.pdf is confusing as they have a sub total column for the TOR (Traditional Own Resources) figures, it needs to be remembered the TOR column is composed of the next four columns. This is probably why the table in Wikipedia differs from the EU's document since the TOR figure has been lost.
"The European Union (EU) is an association of 27 independent member states. The Administration of the Union has a parliament, a civil service and a judiciary that is distinct from those of the member states. These arms administer the application of treaties, laws and agreements between the member states and their expenditure on common policies throughout the Union. To pay for this, t" is un-needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 ( talk) 14:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
The numeric columns in the chart sort by string values e.g. 100, 15, 20 instead of 15, 20, 100. Can anyone fix this? Stutley ( talk) 11:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention that the auditors have refused to sign off the EU budget for several years, from memory I don't think it has been signed off since the 90's, surely the fact that the independant auditors will not sign the budget off (if this happened to a private company they would be closed down). MattUK ( talk) 12:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
This estimates are wrong because the amount shown here is the maxium amount of money that can be taken by a country... many eastern countries are projected to absorb maxium 25% of that amount... In 2007-2008 Romania took only 6%! from EU funds (176 mil eu out of 3,1 bl eu). So this data is misleading because is just a posibility (the maximum one!) of absorbtion of EU funds —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.36.190.155 ( talk) 07:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Jep, those numbers are just random lies all over the place, no idear who came up with them.
84.57.118.87 (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
21:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC).
Using the little buttons to arrange by a given column doesn't work right. It goes from 86 to 8.something and then 56, etc... It doesn't actually put things in order; it just arranges by that first digit. I suppose this could have something to do with my browser, but perhaps someone not using Chrome could check to see if it's reproducible in other user agents.
Open Europe is an outspoken anti-EU lobby group, charts and information sourced from them should be labelled as such. 145.94.58.41 ( talk) 11:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I totally agree with this comment. Using Open Europe as a primary data source when the budget information is publically published shows either laziness or bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.203.212 ( talk) 21:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
The data is absurd and is the result of a British Anti-EU group. The UK does not pay as much. I think the official data of the EU-commission is much more accurate. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.66.233 ( talk) 23:18, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
In the German wikipedia, there is the real data. The data of the British Anti-european group is false and tries to paint a picture of a UK that pays more than it acutally does. Remove it!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.14.198 ( talk) 15:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Deep links to pages and/or pdf to that website should be adapted. There is currently a redirection for static papges, but this is temporary. I know this cuz I made the new website.
Links to pdf will break.
I'm didn't edit the links myself, cuz I'm not sure what I'm doing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.136.104.199 ( talk) 19:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Firstly, excuse me for my horrid editing skills but I dont do this too often. The article here on wikipedia says that finland is -13 billion, im not sure if that is correct? Here is another article by a large finnish financial newspaper claiming that eu has actually cost us -30 billion euros, crisis funds alone. I am completely worthless at even attempting a translation so all I can do is hope that another finns comes around and does that. The exact figured mentioned is 30,4 billion euros to eu. http://www.taloussanomat.fi/kansantalous/2011/10/05/yllatys-suomen-piikissa-jo-30-miljardin-kriisivastuut/201114170/12?ref=tf1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.85.130.7 ( talk) 14:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
The data is false. You should use the real data and not British propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.4.205 ( talk) 15:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the Net Contributions information in this article is so different to the data given on the European Union page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_statistics#EU_budget)?
For example...
On this page it says: −6,046 for Italy and -3,865 for the UK.
On the EU page it says: -3,437 for Italy and -5,445 for the UK.
That's a massive difference even the figures are for different years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garygateaux ( talk • contribs) 15:48, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
""Money to EU (billions) section of contributiuons table"" Serious error in that if you arange the "Money to EU (billions)" collomn from most to least (or vice versa) it organizes only by the first number of each field, not by the actual value of the field. thus it might go 1, 137, 23 etc... 137 is more than 23! try playing with it if you don't see what i mean. Olyus ( talk) 10:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Member State contributions table
Why does the table showing contributions from member states not match the numbers displayed on the EU Budget report found on the Europa website. The Expenditure figures are identical to those shown on the report, but all contributions show a difference.
EU budget for 2006 and previous years found here -
http://ec.europa.eu/budget/library/publications/fin_reports/fin_report_06_en.pdf page 33 and 63.
How was the "total contribution" figures calculated and where did they come from?
Link for updating the information in this article. I don't see this linked or used here yet. Hope this is of any help. Show a total income of 140billion in 2014 and an expected 142billion in 2015.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/budget/www/index-en.htm 109.200.192.66 ( talk) 10:35, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Surely the budget of the European Union is the sum of the budgets of all its members. But this article is about the Budget of the European Union institutions. It seems to me that this is waht should be the title of the article. Comments? -- Red King ( talk) 01:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
European Union is not all countries of europe. EU is Organization with own budget. 213.164.125.109 ( talk) 19:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The EU levies huge fines, like the one on microsoft, and the ones on the member states such as france and greece. Where does this money go in the budget? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.157.136.194 ( talk) 11:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I've started on this with a table, but I can't get the final (per capita) column to sort properly. Can anyone help? Vinny Burgoo ( talk) 21:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The Annexe 4 of the document http://ec.europa.eu/budget/library/publications/fin_reports/fin_report_06_en.pdf is confusing as they have a sub total column for the TOR (Traditional Own Resources) figures, it needs to be remembered the TOR column is composed of the next four columns. This is probably why the table in Wikipedia differs from the EU's document since the TOR figure has been lost.
"The European Union (EU) is an association of 27 independent member states. The Administration of the Union has a parliament, a civil service and a judiciary that is distinct from those of the member states. These arms administer the application of treaties, laws and agreements between the member states and their expenditure on common policies throughout the Union. To pay for this, t" is un-needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 ( talk) 14:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
The numeric columns in the chart sort by string values e.g. 100, 15, 20 instead of 15, 20, 100. Can anyone fix this? Stutley ( talk) 11:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Why is there no mention that the auditors have refused to sign off the EU budget for several years, from memory I don't think it has been signed off since the 90's, surely the fact that the independant auditors will not sign the budget off (if this happened to a private company they would be closed down). MattUK ( talk) 12:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
This estimates are wrong because the amount shown here is the maxium amount of money that can be taken by a country... many eastern countries are projected to absorb maxium 25% of that amount... In 2007-2008 Romania took only 6%! from EU funds (176 mil eu out of 3,1 bl eu). So this data is misleading because is just a posibility (the maximum one!) of absorbtion of EU funds —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.36.190.155 ( talk) 07:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Jep, those numbers are just random lies all over the place, no idear who came up with them.
84.57.118.87 (
talk) —Preceding
undated comment added
21:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC).
Using the little buttons to arrange by a given column doesn't work right. It goes from 86 to 8.something and then 56, etc... It doesn't actually put things in order; it just arranges by that first digit. I suppose this could have something to do with my browser, but perhaps someone not using Chrome could check to see if it's reproducible in other user agents.
Open Europe is an outspoken anti-EU lobby group, charts and information sourced from them should be labelled as such. 145.94.58.41 ( talk) 11:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I totally agree with this comment. Using Open Europe as a primary data source when the budget information is publically published shows either laziness or bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.203.212 ( talk) 21:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
The data is absurd and is the result of a British Anti-EU group. The UK does not pay as much. I think the official data of the EU-commission is much more accurate. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.66.233 ( talk) 23:18, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
In the German wikipedia, there is the real data. The data of the British Anti-european group is false and tries to paint a picture of a UK that pays more than it acutally does. Remove it!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.14.198 ( talk) 15:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Deep links to pages and/or pdf to that website should be adapted. There is currently a redirection for static papges, but this is temporary. I know this cuz I made the new website.
Links to pdf will break.
I'm didn't edit the links myself, cuz I'm not sure what I'm doing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.136.104.199 ( talk) 19:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Firstly, excuse me for my horrid editing skills but I dont do this too often. The article here on wikipedia says that finland is -13 billion, im not sure if that is correct? Here is another article by a large finnish financial newspaper claiming that eu has actually cost us -30 billion euros, crisis funds alone. I am completely worthless at even attempting a translation so all I can do is hope that another finns comes around and does that. The exact figured mentioned is 30,4 billion euros to eu. http://www.taloussanomat.fi/kansantalous/2011/10/05/yllatys-suomen-piikissa-jo-30-miljardin-kriisivastuut/201114170/12?ref=tf1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.85.130.7 ( talk) 14:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
The data is false. You should use the real data and not British propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.121.4.205 ( talk) 15:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the Net Contributions information in this article is so different to the data given on the European Union page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_statistics#EU_budget)?
For example...
On this page it says: −6,046 for Italy and -3,865 for the UK.
On the EU page it says: -3,437 for Italy and -5,445 for the UK.
That's a massive difference even the figures are for different years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garygateaux ( talk • contribs) 15:48, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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