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British Admiralty links here--but is not explained at all. Could you please add that? I'm looking for "British Admiralty" as of the early 19th century--what exactly does that refer to? Thanks, Ibn Battuta 18:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm wondering if anyone has any specifics on Robert Blackborne, a friend of Samuel Pepys who served as secretary of the Admiralty under the Protectorate in the 1650's and later as secretary of the old East India Company? Many thanks in advance! MarmadukePercy ( talk) 19:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Looking through my grandfathers WWII service record I see that he was based in the Admiralty with D.N.1 or D.N.I. I can't find any information about this section - does anyone know what it is ? Thanks 80.189.16.70 ( talk) 18:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
The ACNS was not a member of the Board. Seadowns ( talk) 17:14, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I've learnt something! There was not just one ACNS on the Board in 1942, but four. However, I don't think that can have lasted very long. In its concluding, peacetime years, the ACNS was not a member, nor was the merchant shipping chief. Seadowns ( talk) 10:06, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Should we be listing places that the Admiralty took over during WWII? St Boniface's Catholic College seems to only have the takeover as a link, the same could be said for Kingswood School and plenty of other institutions. I would suggest that the school's entry adds nothing to the understanding of the Admiralty per se. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 12:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 27 January 2021. The result of the move review was Procedurally closed, new discussion opened below.. |
The result of the move request was: Consensus for this move to demote British admiralty from primary topic; a further move clarifying the eventual location of the British admiralty may be filed if desired. ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 05:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
– If there is a primary topic for the word Admiralty, it's probably admiralty law, or possibly the rank of admiral. I can say with high confidence that the primary topic is not a single country's government department that has not existed for over 50 years - especially considering how many other countries have a department called admiralty. In my view, the word admiralty has no primary topic and should be a disambiguation page. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 00:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Although this discussion hasn't been formally opened as a RM, it has all hallmarks of one, so I'll give it a formal close. After a month of discussion, I find that there is consensus to move the article to Admiralty (United Kingdom). There is no consensus whether it is the primary topic for "Admiralty", so it may be open to further debate; currently, Admiralty is a dab page and all links are sorted out, so nothing is technically broken. At minimum, I will move this article's entry to the top of the dab page. No such user ( talk) 10:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Unfortunately I did not see the move discussion until my watchlist was filled this morning with edits changing the link. I do not think the name "British Admiralty" is appropriate. We normally disambiguate "Common name (disambiguator)" rather than "Disambiguator common name". I think it unfortunate that the discussion was closed after so few responses, perhaps to be expected given the time of year.
DuncanHill (
talk)
09:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
1. The term used is British Admiralty Charts
, British is used in this context as an adjective to the compound noun "Admiralty Charts", so this example is irrelevant to this discussion.
2. British Admiralty Office
is used as the heading and lead of the article, the term "Admiralty" is used without qualifier a further 8 times in the text including the line Prior to the founding of the Admiralty surveying and creation of nautical charts...
'nuff said.
3. This is a translation of a German journal, consequently it sheds no light on the subject of English usage of the term Admiralty.
I haven't bothered to look for instances of use of the term Admiralty without the British qualifier as I am sure anyone with more than the most superficial familiarity with things naval will be well aware that the term is used in English almost exclusively to mean the Admiralty of the United Kingdom and that topic is way beyond any reasonable interpretation of being the primary topic for the name. - Nick Thorne talk 09:38, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Oh dear. If, indeed this article should not be the primary topic (which I don't think has been proven), it should be at Admiralty (United Kingdom) or similar. As it is one of the primary topics this article should be clearly linked at the top of the disambiguation page, not as the 22nd link on it. Many of the incoming redirects need to be be changed from the disambiguation page to the British Admiralty page (or whatever it ends up as), including British admiralty, Old Admiralty, Ripley Building, Old Admiralty Building, United Kingdom Admiralty, Commissioners of the Admiralty, Department of Admiralty. I also think there is a good claim that The Admiralty should redirect here (with a hatnote back to the disambiguation page). The definitive article seems to rule out any reference to Admiralty law or the rank of admiral, which are claimed as the primary topics. I look forward to a broader discussion on this move - Dumelow ( talk) 10:03, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Oiyarbepsy, SmokeyJoe, Tevildo, DuncanHill, GraemeLeggett, Lyndaship, Parsecboy, Djm-leighpark, Nick Thorne, Dumelow, BD2412, Sturmvogel 66, Ykraps, Cavalryman, and Silver seren: Listed for Move Review. See Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2021_January#British_Admiralty. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 13:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
This was a very bad name change, not least as the United Kingdom did not come into being until 1801. “British Admiralty” had the advantage of covering both the Kingdom of Great Britain and the later period. However, the Admiralty existed even before 1707, and I agree with BD2412 and others that it is the primary topic of “Admiralty”. Moonraker ( talk) 00:39, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Please change the article to use Template:OtherUses instead of Template:otheruses it currently uses. The OtherUses template has information about the contents of the article.
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For a sample use of this template refer to the articles Alabama or Algiers--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DuKot ( talk • contribs) .
British Admiralty links here--but is not explained at all. Could you please add that? I'm looking for "British Admiralty" as of the early 19th century--what exactly does that refer to? Thanks, Ibn Battuta 18:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm wondering if anyone has any specifics on Robert Blackborne, a friend of Samuel Pepys who served as secretary of the Admiralty under the Protectorate in the 1650's and later as secretary of the old East India Company? Many thanks in advance! MarmadukePercy ( talk) 19:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Looking through my grandfathers WWII service record I see that he was based in the Admiralty with D.N.1 or D.N.I. I can't find any information about this section - does anyone know what it is ? Thanks 80.189.16.70 ( talk) 18:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
The ACNS was not a member of the Board. Seadowns ( talk) 17:14, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I've learnt something! There was not just one ACNS on the Board in 1942, but four. However, I don't think that can have lasted very long. In its concluding, peacetime years, the ACNS was not a member, nor was the merchant shipping chief. Seadowns ( talk) 10:06, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Should we be listing places that the Admiralty took over during WWII? St Boniface's Catholic College seems to only have the takeover as a link, the same could be said for Kingswood School and plenty of other institutions. I would suggest that the school's entry adds nothing to the understanding of the Admiralty per se. Martin of Sheffield ( talk) 12:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 27 January 2021. The result of the move review was Procedurally closed, new discussion opened below.. |
The result of the move request was: Consensus for this move to demote British admiralty from primary topic; a further move clarifying the eventual location of the British admiralty may be filed if desired. ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 05:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
– If there is a primary topic for the word Admiralty, it's probably admiralty law, or possibly the rank of admiral. I can say with high confidence that the primary topic is not a single country's government department that has not existed for over 50 years - especially considering how many other countries have a department called admiralty. In my view, the word admiralty has no primary topic and should be a disambiguation page. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 00:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Although this discussion hasn't been formally opened as a RM, it has all hallmarks of one, so I'll give it a formal close. After a month of discussion, I find that there is consensus to move the article to Admiralty (United Kingdom). There is no consensus whether it is the primary topic for "Admiralty", so it may be open to further debate; currently, Admiralty is a dab page and all links are sorted out, so nothing is technically broken. At minimum, I will move this article's entry to the top of the dab page. No such user ( talk) 10:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Unfortunately I did not see the move discussion until my watchlist was filled this morning with edits changing the link. I do not think the name "British Admiralty" is appropriate. We normally disambiguate "Common name (disambiguator)" rather than "Disambiguator common name". I think it unfortunate that the discussion was closed after so few responses, perhaps to be expected given the time of year.
DuncanHill (
talk)
09:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
1. The term used is British Admiralty Charts
, British is used in this context as an adjective to the compound noun "Admiralty Charts", so this example is irrelevant to this discussion.
2. British Admiralty Office
is used as the heading and lead of the article, the term "Admiralty" is used without qualifier a further 8 times in the text including the line Prior to the founding of the Admiralty surveying and creation of nautical charts...
'nuff said.
3. This is a translation of a German journal, consequently it sheds no light on the subject of English usage of the term Admiralty.
I haven't bothered to look for instances of use of the term Admiralty without the British qualifier as I am sure anyone with more than the most superficial familiarity with things naval will be well aware that the term is used in English almost exclusively to mean the Admiralty of the United Kingdom and that topic is way beyond any reasonable interpretation of being the primary topic for the name. - Nick Thorne talk 09:38, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Oh dear. If, indeed this article should not be the primary topic (which I don't think has been proven), it should be at Admiralty (United Kingdom) or similar. As it is one of the primary topics this article should be clearly linked at the top of the disambiguation page, not as the 22nd link on it. Many of the incoming redirects need to be be changed from the disambiguation page to the British Admiralty page (or whatever it ends up as), including British admiralty, Old Admiralty, Ripley Building, Old Admiralty Building, United Kingdom Admiralty, Commissioners of the Admiralty, Department of Admiralty. I also think there is a good claim that The Admiralty should redirect here (with a hatnote back to the disambiguation page). The definitive article seems to rule out any reference to Admiralty law or the rank of admiral, which are claimed as the primary topics. I look forward to a broader discussion on this move - Dumelow ( talk) 10:03, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
@ Oiyarbepsy, SmokeyJoe, Tevildo, DuncanHill, GraemeLeggett, Lyndaship, Parsecboy, Djm-leighpark, Nick Thorne, Dumelow, BD2412, Sturmvogel 66, Ykraps, Cavalryman, and Silver seren: Listed for Move Review. See Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2021_January#British_Admiralty. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 13:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
This was a very bad name change, not least as the United Kingdom did not come into being until 1801. “British Admiralty” had the advantage of covering both the Kingdom of Great Britain and the later period. However, the Admiralty existed even before 1707, and I agree with BD2412 and others that it is the primary topic of “Admiralty”. Moonraker ( talk) 00:39, 2 August 2021 (UTC)