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I will be adding a new "Downland and surrounding area" section and a note on the unique Liz Williams Butterfly haven.
At the same time I suggest that the page needs a bit of a clean up.
Many of the sections should be subsections of another section.
I propose:
Paolo Oprandi ( talk) 16:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
I suddenly realised that this article has spelt the name of the city wrongly throughout. the City was named Brighton & Hove when it gained city status, so should be refered to as such. however when the old administrative areas of Brighton and Hove are refered to it is ok to omit the ampersand. I have also added a line to mention that this naming is unique in as much as it contains an ampersand. sharing the distinction with westward ho! that also has a non alphabetic character in its name.
I will also make a duplicate of the page renamed Brighton & Hove so that links from other pages can be corrected. I hope that this is the correct way of going about it. DavidP 02:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
iffy - I dont have the faintest - I hoped to give some time to it yesterday but ended up chasing my own tail around the help pages trying to find a coherent explanation of how the categories work, or rather how to edit them. - I ended up sitting perplexed at 4:30 am wishing I'd never started. maybe soon I will put aside a couple of days to give it another try. just now though Ill check to see if youve already changed them back, if not ill do it. thanks for your note DavidP 01:37, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
attempted at length to change or add the category heading to also read Brighton & Hove rather than Brighton and Hove. it got the better of me - can anyone help to either correct the spelling of the category or add a new one... thanks DavidP 12:58, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
No, the city does not have an Ampersand in its name, to my knowledge. If you read the actual law establishing the borough, you'll note it uses "Brighton and Hove" not "Brighton & Hove". Morwen - Talk 23:52, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
I can't believe I hadn't noticed before, but the official sign at the north of the city where the A23 enters says "Welcome to the city of Brighton and Hove" - with the ampersand only appearing in the logo above.
Another new thing is that certain versions of Firefox, with certain common enough extensions (including "linkify") are currently buggy, and prevent editing of Wikipedia articles with ampersands in the title.
Since we have a broad split in opinions (and the debate has gone cold), and since these are two reasonably strong new points, I think it's time to swing the balance of evidence the other way and rename the article without the ampersand. – Kieran T ( talk) 13:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The name of the city is 'Brighton and Hove' i.e. without the ampersand. This is the official name of the city. It appears in this way on the letters patent signed by the Queen in January 2001. There is also large road-sign on the A27 at the city boundary, welcoming people to 'Brighton and Hove'.
One may also wish to consult the Statutory Instrument 2001 No. 4055, The City of Brighton and Hove (Electoral Changes) Order 2001
ISBN
0 11 039106 3, where the city designation is shown as 'Brighton and Hove' fourteen times.
Of particular note is section 1.(3) of the Order, which states:- 'In this Order - "city" means the city of Brighton and Hove'.(See
[2])
Similarly, the constitution of the council, adopted on 25th April 2002, says:
"Article 1 of the constitution commits the Council to exercising all its powers
and duties in accordance with the law and this constitution in pursuit of the
Council’s vision which is:
“The Council wants Brighton and Hove to be a
cosmopolitan, successful city by the sea, where people
have a high quality of life in a decent environment.”
So the Queen, in legal documentation, calls it Brighton and Hove, an Act of Parliament calls it Brighton and Hove, and the council, by its constitution , clearly accepts and refers to the city as 'Brighton and Hove'.
However, the ampersand is often used. Even so, the ampersand is only a symbol, an abbreviation used to represent the word 'and' (latin et).
Therefore, in summary, the 'official' name of the town uses three full words, not two words and a symbol. But there is also no objection to the use of the abbreviated form. --
Observer29 (
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Makes sense. It's the way it is on that sign by the roadside. The Council has a logo, the city has a name. Why should they be the same? Which is the article about, anyway? 90.203.123.212 ( talk) 00:04, 20 April 2008 (UTC). Brighton and hove is a city right? I’ve been on Wikipedia and says Brighton town and another one for hove, no such thing anymore,saying Brighton and hove still two separate towns but make up the city Brighton and Hove. Doesn’t make sense? We are one city, yes theres Brighton yes there’s hove,2 different parts of the city,if you agree please help me change this
I wonder why this article is still stubbed? There seems a fair amount here now, and some of what might be added could more properly be put in the separate articles on the towns themselves, surely? I've de-stubbed, although I expect to be taken to task with all the things that could be put in!!! But do we not have enough stubs as it is? Peter Shearan 10:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Does this division into four areas makes sense? I am in particular concerned by the fact that Rottingdean is an area in itself, but that Saltdean is part of the Brighton area. Looking at a map, it might make sense to divide all the deans off, but hiving just Rottingdean off (persumably because it has a parish council) seems odd. Morwen - Talk 15:59, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Brighton & Hove ranks top in the Jedi census statistics, according to the 2001 census. Of course, this is more of a fun fact, but maybe someone cares to incorporate it into the article. Subversive element 16:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree; one line about it coming top in any area of census data may well be worth a mention. mr_happyhour 16 Nov 2006
I hhave added a lot of info on this page to make it useful (so you dont have to look at the Brighton "and" hove articles) Blackwave...... ( talk) 10:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Stoke on Tent was formed in the same way and Stoke-on-Trent IS the main article.
The main article says that "Brighton and Hove" was awarded city status 'by letters patent in 2000,' but the 'letters patent' in this case was actually signed by Queen Elizabeth II on January 31st 2001 !
This matter should be re-worded to remove the inaccuracy. --
Observer29 (
talk)
22:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Queen Elizabeth's 1st year of reigning was from 6th February 1952 to 5th Feb 1953. Her 41st year was from 6 Feb 1992 to 5 Feb 1993. Her 49th year was from 6 Feb 2000 to 5 Feb 2001. She signed her letters patent on ‘the thirty first day of January in the forty ninth year of our reign.’ This was on 31st January 2001, i.e. not in 2000. Have corrected the article accordingly. -- Observer29 ( talk) 00:59, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
In 2000 it was announced that four British towns would be elevated to city status by the Monarch, i.e. Inverness, Wolverhampton, Brighton and Hove. Inverness became a city, Wolverhampton became a city, and the unitary authority of the two towns/districts of Brighton anf Hove would become one city, namely 'Brigton and Hove City' (also known as the city of Brighton and Hove). So, in what sense was Brighton and Hove 'the joint winner' of the competition?
--
Observer29 (
talk)
17:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
After careful thought, I have removed 'the joint winner', and modified the wording to include reference to other towns also awarded city status at this time.--
Observer29 (
talk)
14:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I was browsing this page at about half of a screen vertically and realised that the top information box appears incorrectly and covers the text. Checked it didn't happen with other pages but it is a trait which I could only find in this one. I assume it is a bug but don't know how to fix it. Help would be much appreciated. 2/11/08 16:40 UK. User: Pingaware —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.159.201 ( talk) 16:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if anyone has a view on the image of the map that shows where Brighton & Hove is in relation to England? It just seems odd that the zoom takes in a large section of the south coast to the west of Hove and almost nothing to the north and east. Gavinayling ( talk) 20:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I've been scratching my head about this article. Is it about "Brighton and Hove" as a form of local goverment or "Brighton and Hove" as a city? This occurred to me when I discovered that there isn't an article called "Brighton & Hove City Council". By comparing this article to other sort-of similar unitary authorities (e.g. Redcar & Cleveland or Windsor and Maidenhead) it would appear that the Wikipedia convention is not to include the "unitary authority" in the title. Anyway, it looks like this article should primarily be about "Brighton and Hove" as a unitary authority. There is already loads of information on Brighton and Hove already. I'm going to tidy this article to remove some of the content which is essentially duplicated in Brighton and also (if I can) add more information about the actual council functions and activities. Seaweed ( talk) 13:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to the first Brighton Wiki Meetup which will take place at The West Quay, Brighton Marina Village, Brighton BN2 5UT on Sunday 28 April 2013 from 1.00 pm. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Brighton topics. Bring your laptop if you like and use the free Wifi or just bring yourself. Even better, bring a friend! Click the link for full details. Looking forward to seeing you. Philafrenzy ( talk) 21:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I think it's about time we really pulled together the Brighton and Hove articles into one big article here at Brighton and Hove. Having two separate articles is really redundant, as it is more than ever a unified city now. I think we should reflect this. StJaBe ( talk) 19:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree that this article should be a proper article describing the city, history, transport, economy, etc, but not as a merge. To suggest a merge would imply removing the separate Brighton article, in particular, which should not happen for the reason stated just above. But yes the city as a whole should have most of the present-day information in it. We need more input on this question from other regulars on these pages. Sussexonian ( talk) 20:45, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Brighton and Hove may form one city, but they are two towns with a totally distinct feel as far as visitors are concerned.
To my mind, they should keep there own unique identity on here. Amalgamating the pages would loose the opportunity for the individual nuances of the two places... You may as well argue that everywhere in England should be considered as one. But then why not include Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and just have a single entry for Great Britain? Ludicrous, of course! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borninthe40s ( talk • contribs) 10:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
No, Brighton and Hove is a city containing a large number of places (not two!) each with its own feel. I have not proposed merging the articles but a large part of what is in the Brighton article is information about the city as a whole. As The Left Glove also says, detail which is specific to one of the areas should of course be on the page for that area. Sussexonian ( talk) 17:31, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
The information in the economy section was poorly explained, had only one reference (which was a broken link), and was all at least 11 years out of date. I have removed this information, but hope to see a better conceived economy section emerge at some point to replace it. If this doesn't happen within the next few weeks, I hope to be able to contribute something myself. EdwardRussell ( talk) 13:53, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
The box on the right seems to imply that British Summer Time is not used in Brighton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.105.231 ( talk) 10:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
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I question the significance of the 'City Council' subsection on 'DVLA ban'. 1) it seems to be a reasonably small fact on the landscape of a city's history and 2) the referenced article mentions that "38 organisations" have received such a ban, but names none, and Brighton and Hove is mentioned nowhere in the article. The section was inserted in a 2012 revision by a user who is now banned. Artemgy ( talk) 17:47, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi everyone,I been thinking would it be best if we had one Wikipedia page of Brighton & Hove seeing as we are one city rather than have 3 separate ones and have all information on one singal one. Glman83 ( talk) 09:24, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
I have edited references to the political control of the council, which were out of date on this page (but not on the separate Brighton & Hove City Council page).
But I don't know how to fix the reference to the English district control template in the infobox. It is still showing as NOC (Labour administration). Presumably this data is out of date in the template (or wherever the template draws from) but I don't know where to find that. -- BrightonParent ( talk) 14:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
[ Murgatroyd49] what is wrong with a lot of images? The formatting still looks ok from what I can see and they provide context for the area's being discussed. What would you like to see? Thanks Paolo Oprandi ( talk) 19:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
The city has a range of beaches and marine environments from Shoreham port and the wharves in Portslade, Hove Lagoon, the Western Esplanade, Kings Esplanade and Kings, Hove and Brunswick Lawns to the West and Palace Pier, to Madeira Drive, Black Rock and the Brighton Marina and then to the rock pooling beaches in front of the Brighton to Saltdean Undercliff Path. If someone fancies writing a short account of them (500 words or so) I think it will be a welcome addition to the page. If we can get an idea of the marine life the areas support that will also be of interest. Paolo Oprandi ( talk) 22:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Brighton and Hove was two neighbouring Towns that joined together to became a unitary authority. In 2000 gained City status so Brighton and Hove became one City. I feel unitary authority should be removed. 2A02:C7F:A017:B100:6CA0:539B:7A5:C433 ( talk) 15:38, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to just have this one page for Brighton and Hove ? Anything that’s not on here can be added, rather than 3 separate ones 2A02:C7F:A017:B100:F02E:8F2A:F247:43C ( talk) 16:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
A discussion has begun on developing a writing guideline for how and when to record award of city status. You may wish to contribute at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements#What makes a city? Contributions from editors who were involved in updating the award to B&H are particularly welcome. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 11:54, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Do we need two maps in this section, more or less showing the same thing? The second diagram is very pretty but it adds nothing to the article. Murgatroyd49 ( talk) 10:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
I thought we could add an external link to the Brighton Permaculture Trust website as they improving the quality of the Brighton environment. Can I have further thoughts on the matter? Riparia Riparia ( talk) 15:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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I will be adding a new "Downland and surrounding area" section and a note on the unique Liz Williams Butterfly haven.
At the same time I suggest that the page needs a bit of a clean up.
Many of the sections should be subsections of another section.
I propose:
Paolo Oprandi ( talk) 16:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
I suddenly realised that this article has spelt the name of the city wrongly throughout. the City was named Brighton & Hove when it gained city status, so should be refered to as such. however when the old administrative areas of Brighton and Hove are refered to it is ok to omit the ampersand. I have also added a line to mention that this naming is unique in as much as it contains an ampersand. sharing the distinction with westward ho! that also has a non alphabetic character in its name.
I will also make a duplicate of the page renamed Brighton & Hove so that links from other pages can be corrected. I hope that this is the correct way of going about it. DavidP 02:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
iffy - I dont have the faintest - I hoped to give some time to it yesterday but ended up chasing my own tail around the help pages trying to find a coherent explanation of how the categories work, or rather how to edit them. - I ended up sitting perplexed at 4:30 am wishing I'd never started. maybe soon I will put aside a couple of days to give it another try. just now though Ill check to see if youve already changed them back, if not ill do it. thanks for your note DavidP 01:37, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
attempted at length to change or add the category heading to also read Brighton & Hove rather than Brighton and Hove. it got the better of me - can anyone help to either correct the spelling of the category or add a new one... thanks DavidP 12:58, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
No, the city does not have an Ampersand in its name, to my knowledge. If you read the actual law establishing the borough, you'll note it uses "Brighton and Hove" not "Brighton & Hove". Morwen - Talk 23:52, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
I can't believe I hadn't noticed before, but the official sign at the north of the city where the A23 enters says "Welcome to the city of Brighton and Hove" - with the ampersand only appearing in the logo above.
Another new thing is that certain versions of Firefox, with certain common enough extensions (including "linkify") are currently buggy, and prevent editing of Wikipedia articles with ampersands in the title.
Since we have a broad split in opinions (and the debate has gone cold), and since these are two reasonably strong new points, I think it's time to swing the balance of evidence the other way and rename the article without the ampersand. – Kieran T ( talk) 13:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The name of the city is 'Brighton and Hove' i.e. without the ampersand. This is the official name of the city. It appears in this way on the letters patent signed by the Queen in January 2001. There is also large road-sign on the A27 at the city boundary, welcoming people to 'Brighton and Hove'.
One may also wish to consult the Statutory Instrument 2001 No. 4055, The City of Brighton and Hove (Electoral Changes) Order 2001
ISBN
0 11 039106 3, where the city designation is shown as 'Brighton and Hove' fourteen times.
Of particular note is section 1.(3) of the Order, which states:- 'In this Order - "city" means the city of Brighton and Hove'.(See
[2])
Similarly, the constitution of the council, adopted on 25th April 2002, says:
"Article 1 of the constitution commits the Council to exercising all its powers
and duties in accordance with the law and this constitution in pursuit of the
Council’s vision which is:
“The Council wants Brighton and Hove to be a
cosmopolitan, successful city by the sea, where people
have a high quality of life in a decent environment.”
So the Queen, in legal documentation, calls it Brighton and Hove, an Act of Parliament calls it Brighton and Hove, and the council, by its constitution , clearly accepts and refers to the city as 'Brighton and Hove'.
However, the ampersand is often used. Even so, the ampersand is only a symbol, an abbreviation used to represent the word 'and' (latin et).
Therefore, in summary, the 'official' name of the town uses three full words, not two words and a symbol. But there is also no objection to the use of the abbreviated form. --
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14:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Makes sense. It's the way it is on that sign by the roadside. The Council has a logo, the city has a name. Why should they be the same? Which is the article about, anyway? 90.203.123.212 ( talk) 00:04, 20 April 2008 (UTC). Brighton and hove is a city right? I’ve been on Wikipedia and says Brighton town and another one for hove, no such thing anymore,saying Brighton and hove still two separate towns but make up the city Brighton and Hove. Doesn’t make sense? We are one city, yes theres Brighton yes there’s hove,2 different parts of the city,if you agree please help me change this
I wonder why this article is still stubbed? There seems a fair amount here now, and some of what might be added could more properly be put in the separate articles on the towns themselves, surely? I've de-stubbed, although I expect to be taken to task with all the things that could be put in!!! But do we not have enough stubs as it is? Peter Shearan 10:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Does this division into four areas makes sense? I am in particular concerned by the fact that Rottingdean is an area in itself, but that Saltdean is part of the Brighton area. Looking at a map, it might make sense to divide all the deans off, but hiving just Rottingdean off (persumably because it has a parish council) seems odd. Morwen - Talk 15:59, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Brighton & Hove ranks top in the Jedi census statistics, according to the 2001 census. Of course, this is more of a fun fact, but maybe someone cares to incorporate it into the article. Subversive element 16:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree; one line about it coming top in any area of census data may well be worth a mention. mr_happyhour 16 Nov 2006
I hhave added a lot of info on this page to make it useful (so you dont have to look at the Brighton "and" hove articles) Blackwave...... ( talk) 10:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Stoke on Tent was formed in the same way and Stoke-on-Trent IS the main article.
The main article says that "Brighton and Hove" was awarded city status 'by letters patent in 2000,' but the 'letters patent' in this case was actually signed by Queen Elizabeth II on January 31st 2001 !
This matter should be re-worded to remove the inaccuracy. --
Observer29 (
talk)
22:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Queen Elizabeth's 1st year of reigning was from 6th February 1952 to 5th Feb 1953. Her 41st year was from 6 Feb 1992 to 5 Feb 1993. Her 49th year was from 6 Feb 2000 to 5 Feb 2001. She signed her letters patent on ‘the thirty first day of January in the forty ninth year of our reign.’ This was on 31st January 2001, i.e. not in 2000. Have corrected the article accordingly. -- Observer29 ( talk) 00:59, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
In 2000 it was announced that four British towns would be elevated to city status by the Monarch, i.e. Inverness, Wolverhampton, Brighton and Hove. Inverness became a city, Wolverhampton became a city, and the unitary authority of the two towns/districts of Brighton anf Hove would become one city, namely 'Brigton and Hove City' (also known as the city of Brighton and Hove). So, in what sense was Brighton and Hove 'the joint winner' of the competition?
--
Observer29 (
talk)
17:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
After careful thought, I have removed 'the joint winner', and modified the wording to include reference to other towns also awarded city status at this time.--
Observer29 (
talk)
14:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I was browsing this page at about half of a screen vertically and realised that the top information box appears incorrectly and covers the text. Checked it didn't happen with other pages but it is a trait which I could only find in this one. I assume it is a bug but don't know how to fix it. Help would be much appreciated. 2/11/08 16:40 UK. User: Pingaware —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.159.201 ( talk) 16:40, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if anyone has a view on the image of the map that shows where Brighton & Hove is in relation to England? It just seems odd that the zoom takes in a large section of the south coast to the west of Hove and almost nothing to the north and east. Gavinayling ( talk) 20:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I've been scratching my head about this article. Is it about "Brighton and Hove" as a form of local goverment or "Brighton and Hove" as a city? This occurred to me when I discovered that there isn't an article called "Brighton & Hove City Council". By comparing this article to other sort-of similar unitary authorities (e.g. Redcar & Cleveland or Windsor and Maidenhead) it would appear that the Wikipedia convention is not to include the "unitary authority" in the title. Anyway, it looks like this article should primarily be about "Brighton and Hove" as a unitary authority. There is already loads of information on Brighton and Hove already. I'm going to tidy this article to remove some of the content which is essentially duplicated in Brighton and also (if I can) add more information about the actual council functions and activities. Seaweed ( talk) 13:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to the first Brighton Wiki Meetup which will take place at The West Quay, Brighton Marina Village, Brighton BN2 5UT on Sunday 28 April 2013 from 1.00 pm. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Brighton topics. Bring your laptop if you like and use the free Wifi or just bring yourself. Even better, bring a friend! Click the link for full details. Looking forward to seeing you. Philafrenzy ( talk) 21:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I think it's about time we really pulled together the Brighton and Hove articles into one big article here at Brighton and Hove. Having two separate articles is really redundant, as it is more than ever a unified city now. I think we should reflect this. StJaBe ( talk) 19:06, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I agree that this article should be a proper article describing the city, history, transport, economy, etc, but not as a merge. To suggest a merge would imply removing the separate Brighton article, in particular, which should not happen for the reason stated just above. But yes the city as a whole should have most of the present-day information in it. We need more input on this question from other regulars on these pages. Sussexonian ( talk) 20:45, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Brighton and Hove may form one city, but they are two towns with a totally distinct feel as far as visitors are concerned.
To my mind, they should keep there own unique identity on here. Amalgamating the pages would loose the opportunity for the individual nuances of the two places... You may as well argue that everywhere in England should be considered as one. But then why not include Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and just have a single entry for Great Britain? Ludicrous, of course! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Borninthe40s ( talk • contribs) 10:08, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
No, Brighton and Hove is a city containing a large number of places (not two!) each with its own feel. I have not proposed merging the articles but a large part of what is in the Brighton article is information about the city as a whole. As The Left Glove also says, detail which is specific to one of the areas should of course be on the page for that area. Sussexonian ( talk) 17:31, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
The information in the economy section was poorly explained, had only one reference (which was a broken link), and was all at least 11 years out of date. I have removed this information, but hope to see a better conceived economy section emerge at some point to replace it. If this doesn't happen within the next few weeks, I hope to be able to contribute something myself. EdwardRussell ( talk) 13:53, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
The box on the right seems to imply that British Summer Time is not used in Brighton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.105.231 ( talk) 10:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Done
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I question the significance of the 'City Council' subsection on 'DVLA ban'. 1) it seems to be a reasonably small fact on the landscape of a city's history and 2) the referenced article mentions that "38 organisations" have received such a ban, but names none, and Brighton and Hove is mentioned nowhere in the article. The section was inserted in a 2012 revision by a user who is now banned. Artemgy ( talk) 17:47, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi everyone,I been thinking would it be best if we had one Wikipedia page of Brighton & Hove seeing as we are one city rather than have 3 separate ones and have all information on one singal one. Glman83 ( talk) 09:24, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
I have edited references to the political control of the council, which were out of date on this page (but not on the separate Brighton & Hove City Council page).
But I don't know how to fix the reference to the English district control template in the infobox. It is still showing as NOC (Labour administration). Presumably this data is out of date in the template (or wherever the template draws from) but I don't know where to find that. -- BrightonParent ( talk) 14:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
[ Murgatroyd49] what is wrong with a lot of images? The formatting still looks ok from what I can see and they provide context for the area's being discussed. What would you like to see? Thanks Paolo Oprandi ( talk) 19:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
The city has a range of beaches and marine environments from Shoreham port and the wharves in Portslade, Hove Lagoon, the Western Esplanade, Kings Esplanade and Kings, Hove and Brunswick Lawns to the West and Palace Pier, to Madeira Drive, Black Rock and the Brighton Marina and then to the rock pooling beaches in front of the Brighton to Saltdean Undercliff Path. If someone fancies writing a short account of them (500 words or so) I think it will be a welcome addition to the page. If we can get an idea of the marine life the areas support that will also be of interest. Paolo Oprandi ( talk) 22:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Brighton and Hove was two neighbouring Towns that joined together to became a unitary authority. In 2000 gained City status so Brighton and Hove became one City. I feel unitary authority should be removed. 2A02:C7F:A017:B100:6CA0:539B:7A5:C433 ( talk) 15:38, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to just have this one page for Brighton and Hove ? Anything that’s not on here can be added, rather than 3 separate ones 2A02:C7F:A017:B100:F02E:8F2A:F247:43C ( talk) 16:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
A discussion has begun on developing a writing guideline for how and when to record award of city status. You may wish to contribute at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements#What makes a city? Contributions from editors who were involved in updating the award to B&H are particularly welcome. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 11:54, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Do we need two maps in this section, more or less showing the same thing? The second diagram is very pretty but it adds nothing to the article. Murgatroyd49 ( talk) 10:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
I thought we could add an external link to the Brighton Permaculture Trust website as they improving the quality of the Brighton environment. Can I have further thoughts on the matter? Riparia Riparia ( talk) 15:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)