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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 03:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I am looking for the source of the widely repeated quotation, "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
I've found multiple unreliable sources attributing it to Brian Sims, for example this one: http://bialogue-group.tumblr.com/tagged/Quotes
I've also found unreliable sources saying it's older than his use of it, for example a comment on this blog post: https://theboeskool.com/2016/03/05/when-youre-accustomed-to-privilege-equality-feels-like-oppression/
If anyone can find a credible source confirming that it originates with him, I think it's noteworthy enough to appear in his Wikipedia article, and/or in WikiQuote.
Thoughts? Thanks.
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When Representative Sims was elected, there were no openly gay Pennsylvania legislators, but a sitting representative, Mike Fleck, cane out as gay before Sims took office. So he's the first-elected openly gay Pennsylvania legislator, but not the first openly gay Pennsylvania legislator. The article currently gets that wrong twice, both in the lead (which says, incorrectly, that "Sims is the first openly gay elected state legislator in Pennsylvania history.") and in the "Pennsylvania House of Representatives" section (which says that "Sims shares the designation of being its first openly gay member with Rep. Mike Fleck").
The situation is a little bit complicated, but not so complicated that there's any excuse for getting it so wrong. Does somebody want to fix this? TypoBoy ( talk) 15:46, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
As mentioned here, amid other sources. -- 2001:8003:4163:AD00:A01D:CD3C:20E6:1959 ( talk) 03:19, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Here's another source. -- 1.136.110.133 ( talk) 19:45, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
There's no need to attack good faith suggestions. On the contrary, it runs against the tradition of WP:GOODFAITH. JesseRafe is right that controversy sections are usually deprecated across Wikipedia. That being said, the subject should be given due weight and not editorialized and minimized. Ergo Sum 17:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
His party affiliation is not “democratic”. It is “Democrat” these are two completely unrelated words, and an attempt by media to NLP uneducated minds. Please change party affiliation to Democrat. Shaun2170 ( talk) 14:57, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
As stated previously, WP:CSECTION still applies. As does the fact that dailycaller is listed at WP:DEPREC, it was re-instated after that was pointed out. My previous concerns about WP:UNDUE weight and WP:RECENTISM and WP:NOTNEWS are still of concern with the recent edits, moreover the egregiously POV description of the protestor in Wikipedia's voice. We cannot say "she was quietly praying" and leave it at that as the encyclopedia's telling of what happened. This is a known intimidation tactic that by itself may seem innocuous but in the context it is applied (outside a Planned Parenthood, outside of a voting precinct/voter registration drive, outside of a newly integrated public school, etc) must be described accurately. New and sweeping additions should be discussed on the talk page and BLP and NPOV concerns should be observed. JesseRafe ( talk) 18:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
In May 2019, Sims posted an eight minute video of himself confronting a woman who was protesting outside a Planned Parenthood clinic in Philadelphia by quietly praying the rosary. [1] He encouraged his followers to dox her and protest outside her house. [2] [3] [4] [1] Sims also criticized her for being Catholic. [2] He later admitted to being "aggressive" in his confrontation. [2]
A few weeks prior, he posted a similar video in which he offered a $100 reward to anyone who could dox three teenage girls, aged 13 to 15, who were praying outside the same clinic. [2] [3] [1] Facebook removed the video for violating their community standards around "coordinating harm." [1] [2] The mother of two of the girls filed a police report. [1] Sims' has come under fierce criticism for the videos, including calls for his resignation and criminal investiations. [3] [1] Sims responded to calls for an apology or that he resign by calling critics bigoted, sexist, and misogynistic "Bible Bullies." [5] [6]
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When Sims was in the news recently there were a number of editors, including myself, who tried to put information about the incidents into the article. Those edits were reverted for good reason. A consensus version was then worked out here on talk and moved to the main. I note here that Contaldo did not participate in that discussion although it is clear from his edits on an administrator's noticeboard that he was well aware of it.
Contaldo then came in and edited the consensus version by inserting additional details. He was reverted. JesseRafe then came in and made an additional tweak to the consensus version. I agreed with the edit and publically thanked him for it. Notably, though he edited the very same sentence that Contaldo did, Jesse did not reinsert the facts Contaldo wished to include. Contaldo then came in again and made the same edit. He was reverted again. Contaldo then came back for a third time and reinserted the same material. He did so against consensus and without coming to talk to try to build one. I remind editors that WP:BRD provides an alternative to edit warring. I am going to revert for the last time and encourage anyone who wants to include the material to build a consensus here first. -- Slugger O'Toole ( talk) 00:15, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
@ JesseRafe: Please state
1. Why you keep removing the well-referenced material I added.
2. Why you allege that this material "does not conform to our policies", as you claimed in your message to me.
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 03:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I am looking for the source of the widely repeated quotation, "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
I've found multiple unreliable sources attributing it to Brian Sims, for example this one: http://bialogue-group.tumblr.com/tagged/Quotes
I've also found unreliable sources saying it's older than his use of it, for example a comment on this blog post: https://theboeskool.com/2016/03/05/when-youre-accustomed-to-privilege-equality-feels-like-oppression/
If anyone can find a credible source confirming that it originates with him, I think it's noteworthy enough to appear in his Wikipedia article, and/or in WikiQuote.
Thoughts? Thanks.
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When Representative Sims was elected, there were no openly gay Pennsylvania legislators, but a sitting representative, Mike Fleck, cane out as gay before Sims took office. So he's the first-elected openly gay Pennsylvania legislator, but not the first openly gay Pennsylvania legislator. The article currently gets that wrong twice, both in the lead (which says, incorrectly, that "Sims is the first openly gay elected state legislator in Pennsylvania history.") and in the "Pennsylvania House of Representatives" section (which says that "Sims shares the designation of being its first openly gay member with Rep. Mike Fleck").
The situation is a little bit complicated, but not so complicated that there's any excuse for getting it so wrong. Does somebody want to fix this? TypoBoy ( talk) 15:46, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
As mentioned here, amid other sources. -- 2001:8003:4163:AD00:A01D:CD3C:20E6:1959 ( talk) 03:19, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Here's another source. -- 1.136.110.133 ( talk) 19:45, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
There's no need to attack good faith suggestions. On the contrary, it runs against the tradition of WP:GOODFAITH. JesseRafe is right that controversy sections are usually deprecated across Wikipedia. That being said, the subject should be given due weight and not editorialized and minimized. Ergo Sum 17:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
His party affiliation is not “democratic”. It is “Democrat” these are two completely unrelated words, and an attempt by media to NLP uneducated minds. Please change party affiliation to Democrat. Shaun2170 ( talk) 14:57, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
As stated previously, WP:CSECTION still applies. As does the fact that dailycaller is listed at WP:DEPREC, it was re-instated after that was pointed out. My previous concerns about WP:UNDUE weight and WP:RECENTISM and WP:NOTNEWS are still of concern with the recent edits, moreover the egregiously POV description of the protestor in Wikipedia's voice. We cannot say "she was quietly praying" and leave it at that as the encyclopedia's telling of what happened. This is a known intimidation tactic that by itself may seem innocuous but in the context it is applied (outside a Planned Parenthood, outside of a voting precinct/voter registration drive, outside of a newly integrated public school, etc) must be described accurately. New and sweeping additions should be discussed on the talk page and BLP and NPOV concerns should be observed. JesseRafe ( talk) 18:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
In May 2019, Sims posted an eight minute video of himself confronting a woman who was protesting outside a Planned Parenthood clinic in Philadelphia by quietly praying the rosary. [1] He encouraged his followers to dox her and protest outside her house. [2] [3] [4] [1] Sims also criticized her for being Catholic. [2] He later admitted to being "aggressive" in his confrontation. [2]
A few weeks prior, he posted a similar video in which he offered a $100 reward to anyone who could dox three teenage girls, aged 13 to 15, who were praying outside the same clinic. [2] [3] [1] Facebook removed the video for violating their community standards around "coordinating harm." [1] [2] The mother of two of the girls filed a police report. [1] Sims' has come under fierce criticism for the videos, including calls for his resignation and criminal investiations. [3] [1] Sims responded to calls for an apology or that he resign by calling critics bigoted, sexist, and misogynistic "Bible Bullies." [5] [6]
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When Sims was in the news recently there were a number of editors, including myself, who tried to put information about the incidents into the article. Those edits were reverted for good reason. A consensus version was then worked out here on talk and moved to the main. I note here that Contaldo did not participate in that discussion although it is clear from his edits on an administrator's noticeboard that he was well aware of it.
Contaldo then came in and edited the consensus version by inserting additional details. He was reverted. JesseRafe then came in and made an additional tweak to the consensus version. I agreed with the edit and publically thanked him for it. Notably, though he edited the very same sentence that Contaldo did, Jesse did not reinsert the facts Contaldo wished to include. Contaldo then came in again and made the same edit. He was reverted again. Contaldo then came back for a third time and reinserted the same material. He did so against consensus and without coming to talk to try to build one. I remind editors that WP:BRD provides an alternative to edit warring. I am going to revert for the last time and encourage anyone who wants to include the material to build a consensus here first. -- Slugger O'Toole ( talk) 00:15, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
@ JesseRafe: Please state
1. Why you keep removing the well-referenced material I added.
2. Why you allege that this material "does not conform to our policies", as you claimed in your message to me.
2001:569:7FEA:C900:E40B:4D99:287B:AF38 ( talk) 19:45, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Addendum: Note that JesseRafe has referred to me as a "bot" or "troll", violating WP:NOPA. 2001:569:7FEA:C900:E40B:4D99:287B:AF38 ( talk) 20:01, 19 October 2021 (UTC)