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Are there any references regarding the connection the article draws between Mickey Mouse, Bosko and blackface? It is not part of the Mickey Mouse article, by the way. -- Liberlogos 23:48, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Can the Bosko cartoon series be considered racial? Does it use ethnical stereotypes in favor of humor? I could expect something like this, so I think it is a good idea to mention whether or not this was part of the Bosko cartoons. -- Abdull 14:32, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Should it really re-direct to this? This is an article on the character, and "Talk-Ink Kid" is a separate short film. It would be like "A Wild Hare" re-directing to Bugs Bunny. Same thing with "Bosko and Honey".
Someone is asking for a "citation" that the first Bosko is an African-American stereotype of that era, even after I posted the verbatim dialogue. Wikipedia policy is that films are their own source, and anyone who knows anything about the subject of stereotyping can see it in the dialogue, even without listening to his black-stereotype accent on the film. I don't see any reason to "cite" any further, something that's as obvious as the nose on his face. Wahkeenah 13:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Bosko's black dialect is noted in Reading the Rabbit, a collection of scholarly essays on Warner Bros. animation that is partially available at Google Boooks. Unfortunately, the reference is quoting Leonard Maltin's Of Mice and Magic, which is not on Google Books. I own both books, but they are currently in America and I am not. But, like I said, any good animation history should mention this fact. Reading the Rabbit even suggests that the voice characterization continued past the prototype film. — BrianSmithson 22:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Please offer evidence for your insistence that Harman and Ising were copying Mickey Mouse. Please offer some citations from a credible evidence and not mere opinions. Your opinion that Bosko looks like Mickey Mouse is not evidence.. it is merely an opinion. I. for one, do not think they have any resemblance. They are both cartoon characters drawn in style of their times. Terrytoons 00:33, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The Bosko-Mickey connection has indeed been *demonstrated* (not just affirmed) by several authors like Maltin, like Foxy is closely related to Mickey. I think this shall be included in the article. Herve661 ( talk) 13:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Bosko or Mickey, which one is based on the other, is a controversy that misses the evidence of cartoon history, entirely. Mickey was Disney's effort to recreate Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, the rights to which he had lost to his distribution partner. And Oswald, like several other creations by lesser cartoonists of the time, was created as an attempt to cash in on the pattern of Felix the Cat (Sullivan and Messmer), the first, real, named, cartoon star. And Felix was based on Master Tom (also Sullivan and Messmer) who predated Mickey by almost a decade. Harman and Ising had no need to copy Mickey when they had the earlier templates of Oswald, Felix and Tom to draw upon, so it's going to be awfully hard to prove that they did, short of confessions. Halfelven ( talk) 01:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Honestly, why do we need 8 notes for 3 pages of 1 book? I personally think 1 would suffice, but even 3 is better than 8. bye ee 15:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Bosko, like Mickey, got his personality from the blackface characters
Is there any real connection between blackface stereotypes and mickey? Citation needed for this part.-- Martianmister ( talk) 14:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
In the third paragraph, the article talks about a short made in 1929 and refers to evidence that Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck already existed. This is just flat impossible. Someone should do the research to correct this and straighten out the timeline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Halfelven ( talk • contribs) 01:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC) Halfelven ( talk) 01:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
In the 90s, Honey & Bosko were redesigned to look like the Animaniacs Warner Brothers & given a special on Tiny Toon Adventures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.118.100 ( talk) 10:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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Is there a way we can respectfully expand this page to include a section on the later Bosko cartoons from the MGM library? I think we should acknowledge Mammy Two Shoes's role in the last three cartoons, and include a few pictures, to help differentiate original Bosko from the later one.
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It's stated that Bosko is a human. but given his nose and hairs that come around his eyes, it is more likely a monkey. Aminabzz ( talk) 22:22, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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Are there any references regarding the connection the article draws between Mickey Mouse, Bosko and blackface? It is not part of the Mickey Mouse article, by the way. -- Liberlogos 23:48, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Can the Bosko cartoon series be considered racial? Does it use ethnical stereotypes in favor of humor? I could expect something like this, so I think it is a good idea to mention whether or not this was part of the Bosko cartoons. -- Abdull 14:32, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Should it really re-direct to this? This is an article on the character, and "Talk-Ink Kid" is a separate short film. It would be like "A Wild Hare" re-directing to Bugs Bunny. Same thing with "Bosko and Honey".
Someone is asking for a "citation" that the first Bosko is an African-American stereotype of that era, even after I posted the verbatim dialogue. Wikipedia policy is that films are their own source, and anyone who knows anything about the subject of stereotyping can see it in the dialogue, even without listening to his black-stereotype accent on the film. I don't see any reason to "cite" any further, something that's as obvious as the nose on his face. Wahkeenah 13:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Bosko's black dialect is noted in Reading the Rabbit, a collection of scholarly essays on Warner Bros. animation that is partially available at Google Boooks. Unfortunately, the reference is quoting Leonard Maltin's Of Mice and Magic, which is not on Google Books. I own both books, but they are currently in America and I am not. But, like I said, any good animation history should mention this fact. Reading the Rabbit even suggests that the voice characterization continued past the prototype film. — BrianSmithson 22:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Please offer evidence for your insistence that Harman and Ising were copying Mickey Mouse. Please offer some citations from a credible evidence and not mere opinions. Your opinion that Bosko looks like Mickey Mouse is not evidence.. it is merely an opinion. I. for one, do not think they have any resemblance. They are both cartoon characters drawn in style of their times. Terrytoons 00:33, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The Bosko-Mickey connection has indeed been *demonstrated* (not just affirmed) by several authors like Maltin, like Foxy is closely related to Mickey. I think this shall be included in the article. Herve661 ( talk) 13:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Bosko or Mickey, which one is based on the other, is a controversy that misses the evidence of cartoon history, entirely. Mickey was Disney's effort to recreate Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, the rights to which he had lost to his distribution partner. And Oswald, like several other creations by lesser cartoonists of the time, was created as an attempt to cash in on the pattern of Felix the Cat (Sullivan and Messmer), the first, real, named, cartoon star. And Felix was based on Master Tom (also Sullivan and Messmer) who predated Mickey by almost a decade. Harman and Ising had no need to copy Mickey when they had the earlier templates of Oswald, Felix and Tom to draw upon, so it's going to be awfully hard to prove that they did, short of confessions. Halfelven ( talk) 01:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Honestly, why do we need 8 notes for 3 pages of 1 book? I personally think 1 would suffice, but even 3 is better than 8. bye ee 15:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Bosko, like Mickey, got his personality from the blackface characters
Is there any real connection between blackface stereotypes and mickey? Citation needed for this part.-- Martianmister ( talk) 14:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
In the third paragraph, the article talks about a short made in 1929 and refers to evidence that Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck already existed. This is just flat impossible. Someone should do the research to correct this and straighten out the timeline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Halfelven ( talk • contribs) 01:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC) Halfelven ( talk) 01:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
In the 90s, Honey & Bosko were redesigned to look like the Animaniacs Warner Brothers & given a special on Tiny Toon Adventures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.118.100 ( talk) 10:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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Is there a way we can respectfully expand this page to include a section on the later Bosko cartoons from the MGM library? I think we should acknowledge Mammy Two Shoes's role in the last three cartoons, and include a few pictures, to help differentiate original Bosko from the later one.
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It's stated that Bosko is a human. but given his nose and hairs that come around his eyes, it is more likely a monkey. Aminabzz ( talk) 22:22, 2 August 2023 (UTC)