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I made a minor edit. I changed "Original Text" to "Original Language" since that it what was meant, in context.
I was just curious, why doesn't this article talk about stuff like the revenge on the midianites. I'm not trying to troll here, I just think it should be at least mentioned.
Boboncel ( talk) 11:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
The statement, "The composition of Numbers 22-24 can be dated with reasonable certainty to c.840-760 BC on the basis of the Deir Alla text . . ." is not borne out by the citation at the end of the sentence. In the citation, as found on the Web site given, author Charles Isbell does not date the composition of Numbers to the time of the Deir Alla text, nor does he say that Kenneth Kitchen, the author he is critiquing, does so. Since Mr. Isbell's writing does not support the statement in the Wikipedia article, this sentence should be eliminated. Chronic2 ( talk) 21:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I have now replaced the statements about Deir Alla that appeared definitely to be OR with a properly documented statement. Since I have had experience recently of my entering properly documented statements, with scholarly citations, only to have them deleted outright because it conflicted with someone else's POV, I would request that anyone who does not agree with what I entered should enter their own properly documented statements and be willing to observe the proper Wikipedia policies in this matter. It would also be helpful to enter below any instance in which you think I have violated Wikipedia policy before undertaking such large-scale deletions as I have experienced, and which I see is also the experience of others with this editor. Chronic2 ( talk) 16:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The words used are somewhat interesting, for instance text of 'A new census gives' was understood as a trusted person - somehow the last one was replaced by a new trusted person whom then undertook the counting of persons (no doubt some were counted twice and others excluded from the count as per human nature and the law of error - as in if it can happen it could and will) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.95.146 ( talk) 13:21, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Under the "Themes" section, the following statement is made: "The message is clear: failure was not due to any fault in the preparation, because Yahweh had foreseen everything, but to Israel's sin of unfaithfulness." It is arguable as to whether the concept of "sin" is really relevant here. It may be acceptably amended to remove this word and simply refer "to Israel's unfaithfulness". BibleScholar ( talk) 09:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
An editor has inserted an interesting but off topic copy and paste from Ketef Hinnom scrolls into the composition section. The material is very out of place in that paragraph. The scrolls page is already linked to the article and this article has no section on manuscripts. I would support creation of a balanced section on manuscripts (more than just that copy/p[asted paragraph), but at this time the paragraph just does not fit so I am going to back it out. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 11:28, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
This article should consider employing BCE (Before Common Era) dating terminology instead of BC (Before Christ) to align with the neutral point of view policy. This change respects the diverse beliefs of readers and maintains a more inclusive and globally sensitive perspective, reflecting Wikipedia's commitment to providing accurate information while accommodating various cultural and religious viewpoints. BibleScholar ( talk) 08:43, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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I made a minor edit. I changed "Original Text" to "Original Language" since that it what was meant, in context.
I was just curious, why doesn't this article talk about stuff like the revenge on the midianites. I'm not trying to troll here, I just think it should be at least mentioned.
Boboncel ( talk) 11:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
The statement, "The composition of Numbers 22-24 can be dated with reasonable certainty to c.840-760 BC on the basis of the Deir Alla text . . ." is not borne out by the citation at the end of the sentence. In the citation, as found on the Web site given, author Charles Isbell does not date the composition of Numbers to the time of the Deir Alla text, nor does he say that Kenneth Kitchen, the author he is critiquing, does so. Since Mr. Isbell's writing does not support the statement in the Wikipedia article, this sentence should be eliminated. Chronic2 ( talk) 21:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I have now replaced the statements about Deir Alla that appeared definitely to be OR with a properly documented statement. Since I have had experience recently of my entering properly documented statements, with scholarly citations, only to have them deleted outright because it conflicted with someone else's POV, I would request that anyone who does not agree with what I entered should enter their own properly documented statements and be willing to observe the proper Wikipedia policies in this matter. It would also be helpful to enter below any instance in which you think I have violated Wikipedia policy before undertaking such large-scale deletions as I have experienced, and which I see is also the experience of others with this editor. Chronic2 ( talk) 16:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The words used are somewhat interesting, for instance text of 'A new census gives' was understood as a trusted person - somehow the last one was replaced by a new trusted person whom then undertook the counting of persons (no doubt some were counted twice and others excluded from the count as per human nature and the law of error - as in if it can happen it could and will) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.95.146 ( talk) 13:21, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Under the "Themes" section, the following statement is made: "The message is clear: failure was not due to any fault in the preparation, because Yahweh had foreseen everything, but to Israel's sin of unfaithfulness." It is arguable as to whether the concept of "sin" is really relevant here. It may be acceptably amended to remove this word and simply refer "to Israel's unfaithfulness". BibleScholar ( talk) 09:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
An editor has inserted an interesting but off topic copy and paste from Ketef Hinnom scrolls into the composition section. The material is very out of place in that paragraph. The scrolls page is already linked to the article and this article has no section on manuscripts. I would support creation of a balanced section on manuscripts (more than just that copy/p[asted paragraph), but at this time the paragraph just does not fit so I am going to back it out. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 11:28, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
This article should consider employing BCE (Before Common Era) dating terminology instead of BC (Before Christ) to align with the neutral point of view policy. This change respects the diverse beliefs of readers and maintains a more inclusive and globally sensitive perspective, reflecting Wikipedia's commitment to providing accurate information while accommodating various cultural and religious viewpoints. BibleScholar ( talk) 08:43, 8 August 2023 (UTC)