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The final paragraph contains several grammatical errors and seems incoherent in places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2CD0:4F20:6000:FD0F:7FEA:D13 ( talk) 05:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of Jimmy Yancey in this article? I'm researching a project on this genre and its piano beginnings, and Yancey is often reffered to as "the father of boogie woogie". Though he may be not as famous as some of the artists talked about on this page, he should be written in. Thoughts?
I love listening to music (including boogie woogie) but don't have any skills to analyze the musical structure of what I'm hearing. So, with a little help from those of you who have those skills, I would love to know the following. John Lee Hooker's "Boogie Chillun" can be called boogie woogie? Stylistically, musically, structurally, or in whatever way? If yes, could you explain for me what the distinctively boogie woogie elements of "Boogie Chillun" are? I think Hooker's music is known for its use of one-chord tone. Does this aspect of his music have anything to do with the boogie woogie style per se? -- Oichiro 03:22, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I propose moving this article back to "Boogie woogie" from the current title of "Boogie woogie (music)" Once this move is made, " Boogie woogie (dance) would be linked as a disambiguation at the top of the page. Comments? -- Infrogmation 07:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I see this came from another article, but I can't accept this without further documentation. Slaves were freed during the American Civil war. The West was still a frontier in the 1860s, and most of our "national railroad system" was certainly not built by then. Please come back with something to substantiate this statement. Steve Pastor 23:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
google railroad 1860 miles to get to this url [1] No question that the majority of our railroad system was built after 1860, which is just a few years before slavery was ended in the U.S.. Besides, boogie woogie didn't emerge until the early 1900's over half a century after slavery was abolished. Who are the critics who think otherwise? Steve Pastor 20:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
If you follow the link provided for this slave/railroad statement, you will see text from a real book that contradicts this statement, and agrees with the Robert Palmer information. Steve Pastor 16:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
"Roll 'Em, Pete" is now considered one of the first rock and roll records. ??? Actually, if you read the listed link, you will find that it is listed under the Hot Swing section. Anyone care to rebut? Steve Pastor 16:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Jdcrutch ( talk) 18:48, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh well, you talk boogie woogie and you've got to mention Little Richard. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzJRkXza-t0 Gandydancer ( talk) 01:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
It is claimed that Source 5 (BOOGIE WOOGIE: Its Origin, Subsequent History, and Continuing Development -- by John Tennison (A.K.A. Nonjohn) -- Updated November 3, 2010.) verifies the first sound recordings of boogie woogie occurred in 1919. However, the author's own website: http://boogiewoogie.com/index.php/history/30_-_the_earliest_sound_recordings_containing_boogie_woogie_bass_figures/ says the following:
In particular, the website goes on to affirm:
This clearly pushes the first recording back from 1919 to 1923. At the very least, there is an ambiguity here, and either a different source is required, or the text needs to be amended to acknowledge these contradictions. -- TonyFleet ( talk) 15:39, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
you should mention how Beethoven's piano sonata no.32 was the first work with boogie woogie elements. this is well known. see the wiki page of the no 32 piano sonata of Beethoven for details.
Why does the "typical boogie-woogie bassline' not match the "regular bass figure" shown previously in the article? I know there are variations but this isn't made clear and could be (is) confusing for people new to the subject. 90.204.116.151 ( talk) 17:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Somewhere among all the foolishness about "mbuki-mvuki" and other African terms, there really should be some discussion of the homegrown term "wooly booger", meaning pudendum muliebris. Given the sexual origins of at least the names of so many other genres and terms in African-American music (jazz, rag-time, rock & roll, groove, etc.), that one seems pretty plausible to me as the origin of "boogie-woogie". I know I've seen that theory advanced in a book somewhere, but don't have time to track it down.
Jdcrutch ( talk) 19:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
There is no mention in this article of the essential (AIUI) property of boogie-woogie: it is an attempt to reproduce on a piano the sound of blues played on a guitar, complete with bent notes and blue notes. This results in the 'dirty' chords and trills that are sh characvteristic of the style.
Instead, there is a huge middle section dedicated to the geographical origins of boogie woogie, which seems pretty pointless - I imagine it must have originated wherever there were blues musicians and pianos, which is roughly everywhere. MrDemeanour ( talk) 10:21, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
"...boogie piano players were first heard in the lumber and turpentine camps, where nobody was at home at all." 98.110.40.14 ( talk) 00:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Looks like someone had fun there, and nobody noted it until now. Steve Pastor ( talk) 16:46, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Here is the edit where this material was added to the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Boogie-woogie&diff=prev&oldid=395387639
I just heard of Shizuko Kasagi who was "Queen of Boogie-Woogie" in Japan during the occupation. could someone write something about the boogie-woogie diffusion outside USA? Was it a consequence of the US participation to the WWII ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.195.185.78 ( talk) 12:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
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The final paragraph contains several grammatical errors and seems incoherent in places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2CD0:4F20:6000:FD0F:7FEA:D13 ( talk) 05:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of Jimmy Yancey in this article? I'm researching a project on this genre and its piano beginnings, and Yancey is often reffered to as "the father of boogie woogie". Though he may be not as famous as some of the artists talked about on this page, he should be written in. Thoughts?
I love listening to music (including boogie woogie) but don't have any skills to analyze the musical structure of what I'm hearing. So, with a little help from those of you who have those skills, I would love to know the following. John Lee Hooker's "Boogie Chillun" can be called boogie woogie? Stylistically, musically, structurally, or in whatever way? If yes, could you explain for me what the distinctively boogie woogie elements of "Boogie Chillun" are? I think Hooker's music is known for its use of one-chord tone. Does this aspect of his music have anything to do with the boogie woogie style per se? -- Oichiro 03:22, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I propose moving this article back to "Boogie woogie" from the current title of "Boogie woogie (music)" Once this move is made, " Boogie woogie (dance) would be linked as a disambiguation at the top of the page. Comments? -- Infrogmation 07:01, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I see this came from another article, but I can't accept this without further documentation. Slaves were freed during the American Civil war. The West was still a frontier in the 1860s, and most of our "national railroad system" was certainly not built by then. Please come back with something to substantiate this statement. Steve Pastor 23:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
google railroad 1860 miles to get to this url [1] No question that the majority of our railroad system was built after 1860, which is just a few years before slavery was ended in the U.S.. Besides, boogie woogie didn't emerge until the early 1900's over half a century after slavery was abolished. Who are the critics who think otherwise? Steve Pastor 20:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
If you follow the link provided for this slave/railroad statement, you will see text from a real book that contradicts this statement, and agrees with the Robert Palmer information. Steve Pastor 16:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
"Roll 'Em, Pete" is now considered one of the first rock and roll records. ??? Actually, if you read the listed link, you will find that it is listed under the Hot Swing section. Anyone care to rebut? Steve Pastor 16:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Jdcrutch ( talk) 18:48, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Oh well, you talk boogie woogie and you've got to mention Little Richard. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzJRkXza-t0 Gandydancer ( talk) 01:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
It is claimed that Source 5 (BOOGIE WOOGIE: Its Origin, Subsequent History, and Continuing Development -- by John Tennison (A.K.A. Nonjohn) -- Updated November 3, 2010.) verifies the first sound recordings of boogie woogie occurred in 1919. However, the author's own website: http://boogiewoogie.com/index.php/history/30_-_the_earliest_sound_recordings_containing_boogie_woogie_bass_figures/ says the following:
In particular, the website goes on to affirm:
This clearly pushes the first recording back from 1919 to 1923. At the very least, there is an ambiguity here, and either a different source is required, or the text needs to be amended to acknowledge these contradictions. -- TonyFleet ( talk) 15:39, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
you should mention how Beethoven's piano sonata no.32 was the first work with boogie woogie elements. this is well known. see the wiki page of the no 32 piano sonata of Beethoven for details.
Why does the "typical boogie-woogie bassline' not match the "regular bass figure" shown previously in the article? I know there are variations but this isn't made clear and could be (is) confusing for people new to the subject. 90.204.116.151 ( talk) 17:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Somewhere among all the foolishness about "mbuki-mvuki" and other African terms, there really should be some discussion of the homegrown term "wooly booger", meaning pudendum muliebris. Given the sexual origins of at least the names of so many other genres and terms in African-American music (jazz, rag-time, rock & roll, groove, etc.), that one seems pretty plausible to me as the origin of "boogie-woogie". I know I've seen that theory advanced in a book somewhere, but don't have time to track it down.
Jdcrutch ( talk) 19:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
There is no mention in this article of the essential (AIUI) property of boogie-woogie: it is an attempt to reproduce on a piano the sound of blues played on a guitar, complete with bent notes and blue notes. This results in the 'dirty' chords and trills that are sh characvteristic of the style.
Instead, there is a huge middle section dedicated to the geographical origins of boogie woogie, which seems pretty pointless - I imagine it must have originated wherever there were blues musicians and pianos, which is roughly everywhere. MrDemeanour ( talk) 10:21, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
"...boogie piano players were first heard in the lumber and turpentine camps, where nobody was at home at all." 98.110.40.14 ( talk) 00:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Looks like someone had fun there, and nobody noted it until now. Steve Pastor ( talk) 16:46, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Here is the edit where this material was added to the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Boogie-woogie&diff=prev&oldid=395387639
I just heard of Shizuko Kasagi who was "Queen of Boogie-Woogie" in Japan during the occupation. could someone write something about the boogie-woogie diffusion outside USA? Was it a consequence of the US participation to the WWII ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.195.185.78 ( talk) 12:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
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