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Description is disgracing and discrediting. Some sources used was from Rappler, OPS etc. But when Bongbong shows his documents from Oxford University, it was immediately claimed false documents even when it came from the said university. This person is the newly elect President in our country but the details posted here is quite absurd. post sources from the University instead, not from local sources in Philippines who didn't went to check personally. Stop spreading hate and fake news. learn to Respect. Hirayapage ( talk) 07:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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The way of describing his father was obviously biased and not appropriate. He’s not just a dictator or kleptocrat. He also give many contributions here in the Philippines. 152.32.112.128 ( talk) 13:29, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Dictators should be called as they are, dictator/kleptocrat, regardless of their achievements. Then the said "achievements" could only be cited. Proffypaul ( talk) 02:50, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
This is true. The terms used sounded inappropriate for a President in our country who has proven his leadership. He's been accused of stealing government money with no proof. He was rich even when he became our President because he is a well known lawyer of a rich family. Also, Philippines in his time doesn't have much resources to be stolen by someone in authority. Yes, he is a dictator for proclaiming Martial law. This is because of the Communist party, rebellion who wants to take over the government. If he didn't proclaimed Martial law, we will not have this kind of freedom in our country. We should know first why Martial law is necessary. Also, he did consult his cabinet members and it is deemed necessary for it that time. Hirayapage ( talk) 14:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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This talk page should have an FAQ. We keep getting the same requests almost everyday, as if the ones making the requests don't even backread. Howard the Duck ( talk) 19:22, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi! @ El cid, el campeador I've noticed that you removed the descriptor "kleptocrat" from Ferdinand Marcos in the intro to this article? Could you provide a reason for doing so as as a Wiki Request for Comment has also approved of the usage of it as a descriptor. At the moment I will take this edit in good faith. But if I don't receive a reply I will revert the edit. Thanks!-- Firekiino ( talk) 07:29, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
the first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what or who the subject is. CutePeach ( talk) 14:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. 4 support, 5 defer, 10 opposed. It can be re-opened at a later time with regards to the defer vote. ( non-admin closure) Ganmatthew ( talk) 15:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Bongbong Marcos → Ferdinand Marcos Jr. – The main title header of this article was moved from Ferdinand Marcos Jr. to Bongbong Marcos in June 2015 and has not been discussed in nearly seven years. Unlike official use of the name Jimmy Carter, rather than "James Carter" or Bill Clinton, rather than "William Clinton", key outlets, such as The New York Times, The Guardian, ABC News or Human Rights Watch have referenced him as Ferdinand Jr., rather than as "Bongbong". Among Wikipedias, Dutch Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia and Polish Wikipedia also use "Ferdinand Marcos Jr." as their main header. On the other hand, BBC and CBS News have used the form Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr.. If consensus develops for its use, I would also support the extended form. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
encyclopedic register. In this case, we have two reasonably common alternatives, and per this aspect of WP:TITLEVAR we should choose the more encyclopedic alternative - which is clearly his actual name, rather than his nickname. BilledMammal ( talk) 07:29, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
example:
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17th President Of the Republic of the phillipines
add a president elect and replace (former senator of the Philippines) 136.158.51.64 ( talk) 11:04, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
he already is a president-elect Gooskitzo ( talk) 11:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
presumptive is still there, and the thing below his name is still "former senator of the Philippines" instead of 'president elect of the Philippines" Gooskitzo ( talk) 01:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
How on earth is this Wikipedia's problem? Howard the Duck ( talk) 02:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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Ydor Mangaba Toberos ( talk) 03:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC) please let me edit this semi-protected wikipedia
Philippines Ydor Mangaba Toberos ( talk) 03:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Bongbong 2001:4452:22C:FD00:2967:999:5A03:207D ( talk) 05:28, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
President Ydor Mangaba Toberos ( talk) 03:34, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello :@ Docetrece:! I noticed you made a recent edit that removed some content from the article, but you did not provide an explanation for the edit? Could you kindly provide a reason so it may be discussed to help improve the article? Thanks! Firekiino ( talk) 15:38, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
This page needs to request for page protection immediately. The page history has devolved into an ugly tug-of-war between both supporters and enemies of the subject. This has to stop. It has persisted over the years. Temporary semi-protection is definitely not enough given how long this has persisted. I am opting for indefinite semi-protection. -- Arquenevis ( talk) 12:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Data saved discredits his family background, educations and achievements. It should be fixed first prior having page protection. Hirayapage ( talk) 14:02, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
ALL OF THE RESOURCES ARE BIASED Jumark27 ( talk) 12:46, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Bongbong Marcos's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "proclamation-may25":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Bong Bong Marcos is also a Youtuber with a following where he regularly posts. Why is the youtube infobox missing? 64.53.212.155 ( talk) 16:54, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
As can be seen by the above edit request and the multitudes of unilateral photo changes done today and a bit of yesterday ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, not counting reverts), perhaps we might need to double-down on keeping a specific photo. At this rate, we'll have started an edit war over which photo to use. Can editors here agree to stick to a single file? Chlod ( say hi!) 15:41, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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I want to replace the Picture with this one, the Unofficial Portrait of Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riZEH95dF7iKCpUNVCjXyZRd9rCojT1Q/view?usp=drivesdk Argus123777 ( talk) 05:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
I want to replace the Picture with this one, the Unofficial Portrait of Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos. Argus123777 ( talk) 05:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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Under section: "During this term, one of the important pieces of legislation he authored was the Philippine Archipelagic Baselines Law, or Republic Act No. 9522"
The statement is patently false
[1] Gretabini ( talk) 13:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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His official name is Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos Jr. It is very obvious that this is also used in government official documents and other matter. It is more formal than "Bongbong". Serene Reel ( talk) 05:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Walang kwentang writer nag sulat nito Kay pbbm wrong info about the dictadorship and about did not graduate maraming mali 103.62.153.99 ( talk) 23:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
There's been a slow edit war about whether or not to mention "dictator" to describe Bongbong's father in the lead paragraph sentence establishing Bongbong as the son. (See last edit to this effect.) There's also been a WP:NPOV/N discussion as well. In light of this, I started this talk page section to explain why I think it is okay to include this word and why I have done so.
When Bongbong Marcos is discussed or mentioned in reliable sources, he is often referred to as the son of a/the dictator, and the word "president" usually doesn't even appear to describe the father in these same sources. To demonstrate, the following is a sample list of ten random articles from different reliable sources in recent months quoting the sentence where Bongbong is introduced and described as the "son of dictator Marcos" (with variants). To avoid local bias, I avoided any Philippine news/sources.
The two reasons that I can see why some editors want to avoid mentioning "dictator" in the intro is because of WP:IMPARTIAL and WP:COATRACK. I don't think COATRACK really applies because this is an essay, not a policy/guideline, and it refers to the whole article. Because Bongbong is a very notable person, a single mention of "dictator" to refer to the father cannot reasonably be construed as making the whole article a coatrack for the father.
As for the impartial tone argument, I disagree with this sentiment because if even reliable sources (as can be seen in the sample list of quotes above) themselves introduce Bongbong as the "son of a/the dictator", why shouldn't Wikipedia? Wikipedia, as a tertiary source, places heavy emphasis on what secondary (and some primary sources) say and if those secondary sources mention "dictator" (which is a pretty neutral and very established term to describe Marcos Sr. himself) when mentioning Bongbong, then I think omitting the word actually does a great disservice to our readers. — seav ( talk) 14:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
For comparison.
Serdar Gurbangulyýewiç Berdimuhamedow[a] (born 22 September 1981) is the third and current president of Turkmenistan, serving since 19 March 2022. Berdimuhamedow had previously served in several other positions within the government of his father, president Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow. In 2021, he became one of several deputy chairmen in the Cabinet of Ministers of Turkmenistan. Having won 73 percent of the vote in the 2022 Turkmenistan presidential election, considered to be neither free nor fair,[1] he succeeded his father's 15-year-long authoritarian tenure as president.( Serdar Berdimuhamedow)
"Wikipedia describes disputes". Can you point to reliable sources that say that characterizing Marcos as a dictator is in dispute? At this point it's pretty much established by decades of reliable sources that the father is indeed a dictator. Omitting that in the name of "impartiality" betrays Wikipedia's role as a summation of what secondary sources say. And bringing up the Turkmenistan example is basically another "other stuff exists" argument: what other articles do or don't do doesn't really mean much in the context of the present article barring actual precedent or an actual policy or guideline (and no, I don't think IMPARTIAL applies to support your argument). — seav ( talk) 23:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hello I started a section like this also in Imee Marcos' page but that's beside the point. So I'm wondering what you guys think about the usage of alma mater to classify Bongbong's attendance but not necessarily graduation from the listed universities. Given the currently used sources within the article, Marcos did not graduate from Wharton and tecnicially did not graduate from Oxford, but was given a special diploma. I reviewed other pages of prominent people who dropped out of university such as Mark Zuckerberg, BIll gates, and Steve Jobs. In all three pages their attendance at their respective universities seems to be labeled under the education info box section instead of Alma Matter. Editors also added notes as to whether the individual simply attended class in the university and/or dropped out. Would it be more appropriate to move Marcos' alma mater info to his education section in the infobox instead like in the zuckerberg, jobs or gates articles? Firekiino ( talk) 05:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Please change "and does not speak the Ilocano language.[229]" to "can speak the Ilocano language. He used the dialect when he campaigned in Ilocos."
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This is the proof that he can speak and understand the local language. Proof that PBBM can speak Ilocano Elialonzocruz ( talk) 01:32, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please change he does not speak Ilocano to he can speak Ilocano. Elialonzocruz ( talk) 01:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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He did not win by a landslide. This is biased speech right in the opening paragraph and is not supported by the source. I understand that Pope administered nations are preferred to have dictators as the leadership (see Spain), but this doesnt mean you can just use Orwellian speech. 95.171.194.45 ( talk) 04:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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Description is disgracing and discrediting. Some sources used was from Rappler, OPS etc. But when Bongbong shows his documents from Oxford University, it was immediately claimed false documents even when it came from the said university. This person is the newly elect President in our country but the details posted here is quite absurd. post sources from the University instead, not from local sources in Philippines who didn't went to check personally. Stop spreading hate and fake news. learn to Respect. Hirayapage ( talk) 07:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
References
The way of describing his father was obviously biased and not appropriate. He’s not just a dictator or kleptocrat. He also give many contributions here in the Philippines. 152.32.112.128 ( talk) 13:29, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Dictators should be called as they are, dictator/kleptocrat, regardless of their achievements. Then the said "achievements" could only be cited. Proffypaul ( talk) 02:50, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
This is true. The terms used sounded inappropriate for a President in our country who has proven his leadership. He's been accused of stealing government money with no proof. He was rich even when he became our President because he is a well known lawyer of a rich family. Also, Philippines in his time doesn't have much resources to be stolen by someone in authority. Yes, he is a dictator for proclaiming Martial law. This is because of the Communist party, rebellion who wants to take over the government. If he didn't proclaimed Martial law, we will not have this kind of freedom in our country. We should know first why Martial law is necessary. Also, he did consult his cabinet members and it is deemed necessary for it that time. Hirayapage ( talk) 14:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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Jbmalix ( talk) 23:35, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi Jbmalix ( talk) 23:36, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
This talk page should have an FAQ. We keep getting the same requests almost everyday, as if the ones making the requests don't even backread. Howard the Duck ( talk) 19:22, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi! @ El cid, el campeador I've noticed that you removed the descriptor "kleptocrat" from Ferdinand Marcos in the intro to this article? Could you provide a reason for doing so as as a Wiki Request for Comment has also approved of the usage of it as a descriptor. At the moment I will take this edit in good faith. But if I don't receive a reply I will revert the edit. Thanks!-- Firekiino ( talk) 07:29, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
the first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what or who the subject is. CutePeach ( talk) 14:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. 4 support, 5 defer, 10 opposed. It can be re-opened at a later time with regards to the defer vote. ( non-admin closure) Ganmatthew ( talk) 15:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Bongbong Marcos → Ferdinand Marcos Jr. – The main title header of this article was moved from Ferdinand Marcos Jr. to Bongbong Marcos in June 2015 and has not been discussed in nearly seven years. Unlike official use of the name Jimmy Carter, rather than "James Carter" or Bill Clinton, rather than "William Clinton", key outlets, such as The New York Times, The Guardian, ABC News or Human Rights Watch have referenced him as Ferdinand Jr., rather than as "Bongbong". Among Wikipedias, Dutch Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Italian Wikipedia and Polish Wikipedia also use "Ferdinand Marcos Jr." as their main header. On the other hand, BBC and CBS News have used the form Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr.. If consensus develops for its use, I would also support the extended form. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
encyclopedic register. In this case, we have two reasonably common alternatives, and per this aspect of WP:TITLEVAR we should choose the more encyclopedic alternative - which is clearly his actual name, rather than his nickname. BilledMammal ( talk) 07:29, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
example:
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49.150.46.185 ( talk) 23:15, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
17th President Of the Republic of the phillipines
add a president elect and replace (former senator of the Philippines) 136.158.51.64 ( talk) 11:04, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
he already is a president-elect Gooskitzo ( talk) 11:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
presumptive is still there, and the thing below his name is still "former senator of the Philippines" instead of 'president elect of the Philippines" Gooskitzo ( talk) 01:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
How on earth is this Wikipedia's problem? Howard the Duck ( talk) 02:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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Ydor Mangaba Toberos ( talk) 03:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC) please let me edit this semi-protected wikipedia
Philippines Ydor Mangaba Toberos ( talk) 03:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Bongbong 2001:4452:22C:FD00:2967:999:5A03:207D ( talk) 05:28, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
President Ydor Mangaba Toberos ( talk) 03:34, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello :@ Docetrece:! I noticed you made a recent edit that removed some content from the article, but you did not provide an explanation for the edit? Could you kindly provide a reason so it may be discussed to help improve the article? Thanks! Firekiino ( talk) 15:38, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
This page needs to request for page protection immediately. The page history has devolved into an ugly tug-of-war between both supporters and enemies of the subject. This has to stop. It has persisted over the years. Temporary semi-protection is definitely not enough given how long this has persisted. I am opting for indefinite semi-protection. -- Arquenevis ( talk) 12:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Data saved discredits his family background, educations and achievements. It should be fixed first prior having page protection. Hirayapage ( talk) 14:02, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
ALL OF THE RESOURCES ARE BIASED Jumark27 ( talk) 12:46, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Bongbong Marcos's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "proclamation-may25":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 22:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Bong Bong Marcos is also a Youtuber with a following where he regularly posts. Why is the youtube infobox missing? 64.53.212.155 ( talk) 16:54, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
As can be seen by the above edit request and the multitudes of unilateral photo changes done today and a bit of yesterday ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, not counting reverts), perhaps we might need to double-down on keeping a specific photo. At this rate, we'll have started an edit war over which photo to use. Can editors here agree to stick to a single file? Chlod ( say hi!) 15:41, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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I want to replace the Picture with this one, the Unofficial Portrait of Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riZEH95dF7iKCpUNVCjXyZRd9rCojT1Q/view?usp=drivesdk Argus123777 ( talk) 05:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
I want to replace the Picture with this one, the Unofficial Portrait of Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos. Argus123777 ( talk) 05:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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Under section: "During this term, one of the important pieces of legislation he authored was the Philippine Archipelagic Baselines Law, or Republic Act No. 9522"
The statement is patently false
[1] Gretabini ( talk) 13:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
References
His official name is Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos Jr. It is very obvious that this is also used in government official documents and other matter. It is more formal than "Bongbong". Serene Reel ( talk) 05:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Walang kwentang writer nag sulat nito Kay pbbm wrong info about the dictadorship and about did not graduate maraming mali 103.62.153.99 ( talk) 23:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
There's been a slow edit war about whether or not to mention "dictator" to describe Bongbong's father in the lead paragraph sentence establishing Bongbong as the son. (See last edit to this effect.) There's also been a WP:NPOV/N discussion as well. In light of this, I started this talk page section to explain why I think it is okay to include this word and why I have done so.
When Bongbong Marcos is discussed or mentioned in reliable sources, he is often referred to as the son of a/the dictator, and the word "president" usually doesn't even appear to describe the father in these same sources. To demonstrate, the following is a sample list of ten random articles from different reliable sources in recent months quoting the sentence where Bongbong is introduced and described as the "son of dictator Marcos" (with variants). To avoid local bias, I avoided any Philippine news/sources.
The two reasons that I can see why some editors want to avoid mentioning "dictator" in the intro is because of WP:IMPARTIAL and WP:COATRACK. I don't think COATRACK really applies because this is an essay, not a policy/guideline, and it refers to the whole article. Because Bongbong is a very notable person, a single mention of "dictator" to refer to the father cannot reasonably be construed as making the whole article a coatrack for the father.
As for the impartial tone argument, I disagree with this sentiment because if even reliable sources (as can be seen in the sample list of quotes above) themselves introduce Bongbong as the "son of a/the dictator", why shouldn't Wikipedia? Wikipedia, as a tertiary source, places heavy emphasis on what secondary (and some primary sources) say and if those secondary sources mention "dictator" (which is a pretty neutral and very established term to describe Marcos Sr. himself) when mentioning Bongbong, then I think omitting the word actually does a great disservice to our readers. — seav ( talk) 14:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
For comparison.
Serdar Gurbangulyýewiç Berdimuhamedow[a] (born 22 September 1981) is the third and current president of Turkmenistan, serving since 19 March 2022. Berdimuhamedow had previously served in several other positions within the government of his father, president Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow. In 2021, he became one of several deputy chairmen in the Cabinet of Ministers of Turkmenistan. Having won 73 percent of the vote in the 2022 Turkmenistan presidential election, considered to be neither free nor fair,[1] he succeeded his father's 15-year-long authoritarian tenure as president.( Serdar Berdimuhamedow)
"Wikipedia describes disputes". Can you point to reliable sources that say that characterizing Marcos as a dictator is in dispute? At this point it's pretty much established by decades of reliable sources that the father is indeed a dictator. Omitting that in the name of "impartiality" betrays Wikipedia's role as a summation of what secondary sources say. And bringing up the Turkmenistan example is basically another "other stuff exists" argument: what other articles do or don't do doesn't really mean much in the context of the present article barring actual precedent or an actual policy or guideline (and no, I don't think IMPARTIAL applies to support your argument). — seav ( talk) 23:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hello I started a section like this also in Imee Marcos' page but that's beside the point. So I'm wondering what you guys think about the usage of alma mater to classify Bongbong's attendance but not necessarily graduation from the listed universities. Given the currently used sources within the article, Marcos did not graduate from Wharton and tecnicially did not graduate from Oxford, but was given a special diploma. I reviewed other pages of prominent people who dropped out of university such as Mark Zuckerberg, BIll gates, and Steve Jobs. In all three pages their attendance at their respective universities seems to be labeled under the education info box section instead of Alma Matter. Editors also added notes as to whether the individual simply attended class in the university and/or dropped out. Would it be more appropriate to move Marcos' alma mater info to his education section in the infobox instead like in the zuckerberg, jobs or gates articles? Firekiino ( talk) 05:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
Please change "and does not speak the Ilocano language.[229]" to "can speak the Ilocano language. He used the dialect when he campaigned in Ilocos."
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This is the proof that he can speak and understand the local language. Proof that PBBM can speak Ilocano Elialonzocruz ( talk) 01:32, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please change he does not speak Ilocano to he can speak Ilocano. Elialonzocruz ( talk) 01:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
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He did not win by a landslide. This is biased speech right in the opening paragraph and is not supported by the source. I understand that Pope administered nations are preferred to have dictators as the leadership (see Spain), but this doesnt mean you can just use Orwellian speech. 95.171.194.45 ( talk) 04:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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Thank you. Guyrichtheman ( talk) 13:47, 29 June 2023 (UTC)