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75.89.71.71 ( talk) 05:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
The aymara version "Wuliwya" is NOT a mispronounciation of Bolivia, but a perfectly correct adaptation of the country's name to aymaran phonology. Please stop reverting to this absolute nonsense. br:Implijer:Pokorny — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.111.133 ( talk) 12:43, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I found this line in the 'Economy' section, 'The government expects to hold a binding referendum in 2004 on plans to export natural gas.', which means that some information is outdated. Moreover, a lot of things have changed lately on this account. Can somebody who knows better that me update this?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.251.31.90 ( talk) 11:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
A Good Article Review on this article has ended, and in a unanimous 5 to 0 decision, this article has been delisted, primarily for very sparse reference coverage. The references template up top is probably the first indication here. Review archived at Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 8. Homestarmy 04:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on South America at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#South America whose scope would include Bolivia. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Theres a bit of vandalism on this page. The page states that the Bolivian state is "Socialist"?, an odd one, as this would mean that in real terms Capitalism has ended in Bolivia and they are awaiting the transition to Communism... since capitalism is doing fine in Bolivia and is still a "democratic republic" this should change. Just because Evo is a socialist, dousnt mean the country is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Red Heathen ( talk • contribs) 23:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC).
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I have a question regarding the literacy rate paragraph in the "Demographics" section:
Reading the article I noticed the following sentence: "The literacy rate is low in many rural areas, but according to CIA the literacy rate is 87% which is higher than Brazil’s literacy rate or other Middle Eastern countries." Obviously, neither Brazil nor Bolivia are Middle Eastern countries, so I'm assuming this is just a typo. I was going to edit this, but I didn't know if you meant that the literacy rate is "higher than Brazil's or many Middle Eastern countries," or whether you meant "higher than Brazil's or other South American countries." -- Raulpascal 15:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. My question, though, was about the comparison, rather than the actual literacy rate. Appreciate the clarification, though.-- Raulpascal 21:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello everyone! You may want to go to Latin cultures an participate in the article and discussion. There are a lot of disputed statements... The Ogre 12:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Really? I thought both of them were capital cities... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joshuamouth ( talk • contribs) 12:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC).
{{ editprotected}} I spent some months in Bolivia in 2006 and as an art enthusiast I asked around about who were the more well-known Bolivian artists. The name Roberto Mamani Mamani (yes, he has the same paternal and maternal last name) came up more often than any other. I saw some of his work and it is quite good; furthermore, he has had a big influence on other Bolivian artists. His paintings are prominently featured in "Constitutional Hall" in Sucre and in "Casa de la Moneda" in Potosi. His name should definitely be added to the list of modern Bolivian artists. (adwh)
Browsing Bolivia's constitution (in Spanish, as there appears to be no English version on the Internet), I noticed that there is no officially designated ("constitutional") capital. Sucre is mentioned to be the seat of the judiciary, but it is not mentioned as a designated capital, per se. In addition, the constitution does mention La Paz once as the location of the "Government." In either case, there appears to be no officially designated capital, so I wonder why Sucre is labeled as such ... -- Mike Beidler 14:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
According to Guinness World Records, Bolivia's total of 192 coups d'etat during its history is greater than any other country.
The Swedish editions of 2004, 2005 and 2006 of Guinness World Records do not mention this fact. Which edition does? // StefanB sv 20:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I had just read that most Bolivians now Self-Identify as Mestizo. I see this as very significant. I think that if someone can find more sources, than the information should be changed.
If a mestizo is a hispanicized Amerindian, then so be it. It must be acknowledged, that no racial implications must follow from the use of this term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.71.71 ( talk) 05:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Under the Culture section is a large paragraph concerning Protestantism in Bolivia. The sources used (Kray, Brusco, Gill, Burdick, Corten) are making generalizations about the general effect of Evangelical Pentecostalism across Latin America and do not present specific enough data for this article. I live in Santa Cruz where I know the Association of Christian Evangelicals is divided almost 50/50 between followers of Movement to Socialism (MAS) and traditional conservatives. In the case of Bolivia, it is too much of a generalization to say Protestantism is directly associated with capitalism. Political tendencies are still determined by social class, whether Evangelical Christian or not. -- Hope4allnations 00:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I reverted ( diff the insertion of the words "Quechua and Aymara are not official languages" into a couple of places by User:Jose142128 because the article itself isn't the pace to discuss factual accuracy. The CIA factbook seems to regard them as official, but maybe there's a subtle distinction I didn't spot during my brief search - I'll leave it to people more knowledgeable about Bolivia than me to decide whether anything needs clarifying here, or whether Jose is just mistaken. Iain99 Balderdash and piffle 22:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I've just read that the Virgin Mary is officially recognised as an "Admiral of the Bolivian Navy", and was formally crowned in 1925 as "Queen of the Bolivian Republic". I know it sounds absurd, but I'm not making this up. It's from a newspaper article ("Virgin on the miraculous", about Copacabana, Bolivia, by Campbell Smith, in The Age, 3 July 2004). Is there any truth to this? -- JackofOz 03:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
is way too long especially considering it has its own article. Michellecrisp ( talk) 23:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that since the modification of the constitution in 2004, there is no official language in Bolivia ? -- Pixeltoo ( talk) 12:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I think this discussion needs to wait until after the success or failure of the proposed constitution in future national referendum because it recognizes 36 official languages plus Spanish.-- David Barba ( talk) 03:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
The current IPA symbols used for transcriptions of Spanish: Spanish pronunciation: [re̞ˈpuβ̞lika ð̞e̞ β̞o̞liβ̞ja]. The vowels "e" and "o" are mid-vowels in Spanish, typed /e̞/ and /o̞/ respectively. 84.120.160.88 ( talk) 17:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Can somebody include in the page the Bolivian maps from the beginning of the republic, it could be very good to understand the Latin American history in general.
Here there are links to a very good maps from the Bolivian's history:
ALTO AND BAJO PERU, 1810 [2]
PERU AND BOLIVIA, 1855 [3]
REPUBLIC OF BOLIVIA, 1859 [4]
REPUBLIC OF BOLIVIA, 1894 [5]
REPUBLIC OF BOLIVIA, 1904 [6]
Thanks.
-- Georgeguitar ( talk) 18:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no sense of scale for this picture. By looking here:
http://www.galuzzi.it/Details.aspx?AlbumID=15&Page=31 http://www.galuzzi.it/Details.aspx?AlbumID=15&Page=32
it appears that they are about a meter tall.
DiagonalArg ( talk) 13:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
The movie "Our Brand Is Crisis" is about this election, in which "Goni" won, just barely. Results were:
22.5% 624,126 Gonzalo "Goni" Sa´nchez de Lozada (MNR) 20.9% 581,884 Evo Morales (MAS) 20.9% 581,163 Manfred Reyes Villa (NFR) (hurt by corruption charge, from 40%) 16.3% 453,375 Jaime Paz Zamora (MIR) from http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/kmm368/2002_Bolivian_election.pdf page 177
The US ambassador charged Evo Morales with associating with drug dealers, which boosted his popularity. ( Martin | talk • contribs 09:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC))
According to the new constitution:
Artículo 4 El Estado respeta y garantiza la libertad de religión y de creencias espirituales, de acuerdo con sus cosmovisiones. El Estado es independiente de la religión.
Article 4
The state respects and guarantees the liberty of religion and of spiritual beliefs, according to its world view. The state is independent from the religion.
So... I will update the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel32708 ( talk • contribs) 18:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Entirely correct. Thanks. Pexise ( talk) 20:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
It also has 37 official languages now. If you feel like updating that part to. ;) -- David Barba ( talk) 02:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
According to the new constitution:
<quote>"A Community that is Peaceful, Dignified, Sovereign, and Open to the International Community
Bolivia explicitly renounces the use of war as an instrument of international politics.
The new Constitution also specifically recognizes that Bolivia lives in a world based in interdependence; that in the past, however, governments entered into international agreements that facilitated the transfer of national resources into foreign hands, the loss of sovereignty, and enrolled the country in multilateral institutions under conditions unfavourable to the country.
The new National Constitution establishes the celebration of treaties that respond to the aims and goals of the state and list guiding principles which include:
- Non-interventionism - Respect for Human Rights and Indigenous Peoples - Environmental Conservation
As such, the Constitution formalizes efforts to achieve necessary balance in public international law, in economic terms (trade and investment), as well as protection of fundamental rights and the environment.
The document also raises to constitutional status a range of procedures to guarantee transparency and citizen participation in decisions about international treaties.
It establishes that the treatment of rights, be it national or international, must refer to and respect as equal those rights and norms set forth in the National Constitution."</quote> [1] http://www.art-us.org/node/316
Let's add this important info to the Bolivia page Egaliteuniversel ( talk) 08:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the Wiphala be displayed alongside the old flag on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.166.81 ( talk) 13:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Assessed the article as C, with top priority in both wikiprojects Bolivia and wikiprojects South America. Thanks, Ono ( talk) 18:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
it's the love de our lady de guadalupe
La Paz is the seat of government, therefore very often mistaken as the capital; Sucre the legal capital and seat of judiciary.
Um, I think there is two capitals in Bolivia, so...both are the capitals.- Warriorscourge ( ♠♣♥♦) 00:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
The Legislative is in La Paz along with the Executive, I dont think you grew in Bolivia as Santa Cruz never had any government branch-- LaNuitDesDemangeaisons 22:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Indeed Sucre is the capital and La Paz is just an administrative capital. NEVER Santa Cruz hosted any of the 3 powers we have in Bolivia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.169.60.149 ( talk) 01:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Bolivia has had 2 capitals for quite some time. Sucre is the traditional capital and La Paz is the "Seat of Government" or "Administrative Capital" as established by law. This should be made clear, as there are current tensions over this and there was some bloodshed when the government was moved to La Paz. It is quite a historical issue and very unique to the country (others include The Netherlands, Israel, and South Africa). As stated before, Santa Cruz has never hosted any of the 3 powers. Its financial importance, now, should not be confused with its historic status (it has developed into a city just for the last 30 years). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.55.254 ( talk) 19:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
[esˈtado plurinaˈsjonal ðe βoˈliβja]),
D becomes ð between vowels. and it remains as /d/ after a dental consonant.
and plurinacional is NOT accentuated as "plurinaCIOnal", but as "plurinacioNAL".
so it should be [esˈtaðo plurinasjoˈnal de βoˈliβja]),
Two questions: Does anyone have a link to an English version of the new Constitution?
What does the "Plurinational" in the official name refer to?
Thanks! Josh ( talk) 21:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
As this document has been locked, I cannot add anything but it would be relevant that someone take it upon themselves to fill in the information for the leftist governments prior to the 1952 revolution (Barrientos) and the interim government and coup before Garcia Meza (Guevara and Natusch Busch). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.55.254 ( talk) 19:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I think an orthographic projection should be used, it is a pretty big country, and It would help people get a better idea of the location of Bolivia. Any support?
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Connormah (
talk) 17:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
That's a lovely photograph, the one with the caption that reads "The llama is one of the icons of the Bolivian altiplano." But I think the animal in the photo is actually an Alpaca. It looks too furry to be a llama. (The llama is their beast of burden, and the alpaca is their source of wool.)— MiguelMunoz ( talk) 05:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
The Flag of Bolivia is supposed to have the seal on it, not seperately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexGu100 ( talk • contribs) 00:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
This site: [ Bolivia] talks about the Indian Political Awakening in Bolivia. Agre22 ( talk) 19:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)agre22
The llama is one of the icons of the Bolivian altiplano.
Since when is the llama an "icon" of the "Bolivian" altiplano? When I think of llama, I automatically associate it with the Andes, or with South America. I don't think, "llama...Bolivian altiplano!" Essentially, the llama is an icon of the Andes, not of any particular nation. I'll be editing the statement to: A llama in the Laguna Colorada, a shallow salt lake in the southwestern Bolivian sector of the Altiplano.-- MarshalN20 | Talk 22:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
It is a topic of particular interest for me. I am including a file on the concept as a contribution. Thanks.-- Camilo Sanchez ( talk) 06:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
As part of the doughnut drive 2009 project it's criticial that masitas are covered. Can anyone help? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 21:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
While reading this article to learn more about Bolivia, I noticed the "Further Reading" section was dominated by books and articles that apparently have little or nothing to do with Bolivia, but instead concern the growth of Protestantism in Latin America. Many of them aren't even about Bolivia, but about Mexico, Colombia, and Brazil.
The following items have been removed:
These items would fit more appropriately into the "Further Reading" sections of other articles. We could use more works that concern Bolivia in the "Further Reading" section of this article. Any suggestions? 24.113.203.35 ( talk) 02:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Is the proper name the Plurinational State of Bolivia, as listed by the UN and the WHO, or the Republic of Bolivia, as listed by the US Library of Congress? Onopearls ( t/ c) 19:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Bolivia.pdf
http://www.who.int/countries/bol/en/
http://data.un.org/CountryProfile.aspx?crName=Bolivia%20(Plurinational%20State%20of)
The importance given to the Bolivian military forces within this article are blown out of proportion compared to it's neighbors, first world countries and superpower(s). most articles depicting a country show an minor excerpt of their respective military entries. In this work, there are 9 main sections devoted to that very subject, for what I've seen this is a subsection the "government and politics" section. This might have been done as a show of strength in an encyclopedic site.-- neolandes ( talk) 06:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The article states: According to 2008-2009 studies by Gallup and NGO the population of Bolivia is 59% Catholic, 15% Incan, 12% atheist and agnostic, 11% Protestant (Evangelical) and 3% Baha'i, Buddhist and other affiliations.
Could someone provide more specific information about those studies? What's their name and where was it published? I found it impossible to check this information. Gugganij ( talk) 18:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
This amazing figure appears with no references, and I have not been able to find any solid sources that confirm it. The only sources I did find seem to be getting their information from this very article.
A priori, the number is quite unbelievable. Just to set the scale, to get to 85 cumulative coups d'etat, it took the continent of Africa 48 years, with 33 countries "contributing" (that statistic does have a reference; see the article on coup d'etat). The Britannica article on Bolivia mentions only a handful of "overthrows," and Wikipedia's own list of coups d'état and coup attempts article mentions Bolivia only three times.
Unless someone can find a reputable source, the claim that Bolivia had 193 coups d'etat should be deleted from the article, and replaced with the number that can be confirmed (even if that number is only four or five, that is still pretty impressive). Reuqr ( talk) 17:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering why the logo of Wiphala of Qulla Suyu has to be right area where the details from Bolivia are displayed? It does not maske sense to me to have it in that area and definitely confuses people (the same that confused me). Miguel.mateo ( talk) 01:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
The Whipala is not a Bolivia's national flag and should not be displayed in that area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.156.170 ( talk) 16:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
There are no reliable sources for names of Bolivia in Quechua, Aymara and Guaraní, and names listed in article are doubtful. E.g. according to official website of Gaceta Oficial del Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia ( http://www.gacetaoficialdebolivia.gob.bo), the Aymara name is Qullasuyu, not Wuliwya, and the Guaraní name is Vorivia, not Volívia. Aotearoa ( talk) 11:44, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The Aymara Wikipedia has Wuliwya Suyu as the translation, as does the Spanish Wikipedia. This page shows the area known as Qullasuyu. This map also shows the area (spelt Collasuyo): [7]. Pexise ( talk) 14:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Here there is a reliable source for the names in Quechua and Aymara. Salut, -- IANVS ( talk) 16:36, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
The lead reads like a political promotion of the current administration. I tagged it as needing LOTS of improvement...-- Novus Orator 07:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
[10] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.200.159.162 ( talk) 04:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes it is, that's a lease, not sovereign land. Pexise ( talk) 21:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The reason is that Evo Morales's Cabinet changes every year and governments are in power, I think it is encyclopedic having to change this info in each management. -- Nair ( talk) 15:52, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Under the capitals section there is no mention of La Paz. However, it was on there earlier this month when I checked! People need to know what both capitals are, right? Ladygagafan33 ( talk) 16:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
The history here is ONLY the history of the Andean region. Seems to indicate some sort of bias. Can someone round out the article w/ a history of lowlands? Tapered ( talk) 20:38, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you. Unfortunately, there is relatively little information about the history of the lowlands, as this region was not very populated or involved in national politics for the most part of Bolivia's post-independence history, which is why historians and the media have focused on the Andean part of the country. The development of the region came chiefly because of aggresive initiatives carried out by the Banzer dictatorship of the '70s, and hasn't stopped growing since. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.102.190 ( talk) 20:57, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
This should be revised since its actual official name clearly says "Plurinational State"
There seems to be a dispute over the
flag of Bolivia in the article. I am changing the bolivian flag on the infobox for the flag on the left, since that is the National Flag (Bandera nacional) as opposed to State Flag (Bandera del Estado) which is the one with the coat of arms in it. The National flag is by far the most probable one to be encountered by people, be it on television, sporting events etc. The state flag is to be used by the government only. Besides there is no need to show the coat of arms twice, side by side. As an example, on the
Peru article the civil flag is put instead of the state flag.--
Rodolfo B.
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Talk) 02:24, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
When one does a Google search for Bolivia, the following coordinates come:6°42′43″S 64°39′58″W / 16.712°S 64.666°W / -16.712; -64.666 Only the second portion is on the page and the google preview is apparently biases to a point of misconduct. The rest isn't anywhere on the page, so how does on change this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.145.130.238 ( talk) 17:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
i want travel to bolivia i love this paige im talking english very good and portiges good — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.25.142.3 ( talk) 17:21, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
The CAPITAL of Bolivia is Sucre and always was Sucre ,La Paz is just the government city and it does not have the title of administrative CAPITAL to prove it you can see: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Paz or you can just ask me, I am from Bolivia I live in Bolivia , I know the history of Bolivia and believe me I know what I am writing!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloshistory ( talk • contribs) 17:15, 7 April 2012 (UTC) Someone continues editing Bolivian Capital and putting La Paz like Administrative Capital — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloshistory ( talk • contribs) 21:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
OK both can be in the info box but La Paz has tobe like SEAT OF GOVERMENT or GOVERMENT CITY that is the right term used in bolivia,oh and excuse me can you tell me where are you from??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloshistory ( talk • contribs) 19:32, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this paragraph really necessary in the economy section:
In April 2000, Hugo Banzer, the former President of Bolivia, signed a contract with Aguas del Tunari, a private consortium, to operate and improve the water supply in Bolivia's third-largest city, Cochabamba. Shortly thereafter, the company tripled the water rates in that city, an action which resulted in protests and rioting among those who could no longer afford clean water. Amidst Bolivia's nationwide economic collapse and growing national unrest over the state of the economy, the Bolivian government was forced to withdraw the water contract.
Best-- MacedonianBoy ( talk) 16:50, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
The article is clearly slanted towards the Andean region, in detriment of the lowlands. The word "Oriente" is not even mentioned, and the economic and political importance of Santa Cruz is studiedly ignored. No mention is made of the colla/camba rivalry. No mention is made of the Jesuit missions in Oriente. Etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.16.16.13 ( talk) 12:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Ooops. I think I must have thought Jara Lake was bigger than it actually is, when I added this reference just now. Rather than pressing the undo button myself, I will let someone more expert than I choose to do it... or to do something more elaborate that allows the more minor lakes to be listed somewhere, too. TheAMmollusc ( talk) 13:08, 15 February 2013 (UTC); (subsequently changing the title of this section). TheAMmollusc ( talk) 13:11, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
In the section titled Sánchez de Lozada and Banzer: Liberalizing the economy
The photo caption:
La Paz skyline. The city is the highest capital in the world.
is in error. La Paz is not the capital of Bolivia. As is made clear in the Wikipedia antry on La Paz it is merely "the seat of government of Bolivia, as well as the departmental capital of the La Paz Department," while the capital of Bolivia is Sucre as stated in the Wikipedia pages on both cities and in the information box at the beginning of this entry as well.
The highest capital city in the world is Quito, Equador as mentioned in the Wikipedia entries on both La Paz and Quito. Dick Kimball ( talk) 12:49, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
The first part of the "History" section didn't have a title, so I've alled it "Pre-Colonial". I'm not sure this is the most appropriate name (as it is treating the most significant aspect of several thousand years as being the fact the Europeans hadn't shown up yet), but it's better than nothing. If anyone can think of a better name, feel free to change it. ( History of Bolivia and History of Bolivia to 1809 use "Pre-Hispanic" and "Pre-Columbian" respectively, which both have the same problem). Iapetus ( talk) 11:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
More than 30,000 words in content have been removed on a complete arbitrary method; sections that were quite accurate and complete, such as Geography and Ethnicity (which included tables with sourced content) have been removed with the pretext of being unsourced. While it is possible some of the content might have been unsourced, the article has suffered a complete removal of tons of content as the result of a decission made arbitrarily by a single user, without any discussion or even a notice on the talk page. I think flagging the article as unsourced (as it has been done) and starting a discussion here would have been more contributive, community friendly and overall more appropiate than just removing everything disregarding everyone else who works on this article. I cannot fail to mention that it seems the user who has performed this action in particular seems to have done similar actions in different articles, always arbitrarily and without any consensus. -- Metroxed ( talk) 10:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
there is no such thing as govermenment capital, that's why I erased that part, because can lead to misinterpretation -- Magomandrake ( talk) 18:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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By 1994, after Quechua unrest and numerous activists jailed, president Banzer had Cite error: There are <ref>
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help page).handed over the reigns of government to Jaime Paz Zamora, his coalition partner, to popular acclaim. All the jailed activists were immediately freed and many formed a significant part of Zamora's government. The police under Banzer were notoriously oppressive. Under Zamora this policy was reversed and the police became unfailingly supportive and polite (from my own experience). At the time Zamora was negotiating in person with Chile for maritime access to the Pacific with the aid of US and UK arbitration.
1) I was at the airport and witnessed Colin Moynihan and the US advisor awaiting Zamora's arrival for the flight to Chile.
2) Sources include the UK ambassadors wife, President Zamora's mother, "Patty" Proctor (nee Boliviano) who lead the Quechua women during the unrest, and her brother, Eduardo "El Negro) Boliviano, a former jailed student activist who had become Bolivia's leading civil right's lawyer. — Preceding
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The article in general could be much better, but the pictures which illustrate it are pathetic to say the least.
The only president of the country who deserves a picture in Wikipedia article is ... Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, a fugitive currently in the US.
The picture for Aymara people is an old black and white picture ... as if Aymaras were a thing of the past.
Current president Evo Morales, the longest serving president of the country, and an Aymaran himself, does not deserve a picture in the article according to the Wikipedia illuminati editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.5.55 ( talk) 10:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Wow. I think maybe your tinfoil hat is too tight... 64.72.65.120 ( talk) 10:12, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Bolivia name - "PLURINATIONAL" monstrosity The translation of country`s official name as "PLURINATIONAL" is Spanglish or phony English or atrocious English but is not proper English.. Firstly, unlike in Spanish, there is no common English "pluri-" prefix. Thus "pluri-" is a foreign word. Secondly, there should be a hyphen. Thirdly, "nación" here clearly means "ethnos." not "state". The ¨naciones¨clearly implied Aymaras, Guaranís, etc. Ergo "Multi-Ethnic" Even if that is the countrys official name in English at the UN, that just means that Bolivia has lousy translators. "Multi-Ethnic" should be included at least to explain what the term "plurinacional" really MEANS. Mumbo-jumbophobe ( talk) 20:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
peoples." The drafters knew what they were doing and this was an intentional word choice that corresponds to the word nation in English.-- Carwil ( talk) 14:19, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
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The infobox information (it is clamed that 20% of Bolivians are Amerindians) contradicts the article on demographics of Bolivia which puts the percentage of indigenous people at over 50%. Maybe a higher number of Quechua and Aymara people have started to self-identify as mestizo, but this needs to be noted (if it is indeed the reason for the discrepancy between the various estimates). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.10.121.8 ( talk) 23:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
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"Bolivia was rated "Repressed" by The Heritage Foundation's 2010 Index of Economic Freedom.[61]"
I take issue with this statement because it assumes that 1) Because Bolivia isn't a first world country it's citizens are less well off, 2) nationalized industries are inherently negative and less "free" and 3) The Heritage Foundation can be counted on to provide a clear and unbiased analysis.
I suggest some other index of well-being to be included as a counter-point to the Heritage Foundation's assessment, especially in light of their progressive environmental and human rights policies. Thanks.
Krisandtim ( talk) 18:33, 17 April 2018 (UTC) Kris Tyler 17 April, 2018
According to this discussion and consensus, the flag shown should be the civil flag, rather than the government-only state flag. That's also in accordance with virtually all other country articles that have these types of flags. I agree with the consensus, which makes sense because the article is about the country, not about the government.
Since then, it has been changed back and forth several times without discussion, for example: [11], [12], [13], [14], etc.
Unless someone can give a good argument to overturn the previous consensus, and go against the usual practice in similar articles, I will change it back to the civil flag. -- IamNotU ( talk) 16:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
So, who's the president? GoodDay ( talk) 20:27, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Why does the country need a state flag? Why can't it be flag of Bolivia instead flag of Bolivia (state)? This is similar to the German and Peruvian state flags. ColorfulSmoke ( talk) 15:35, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
There are 4 citations by Telesur. Telesur is not an acceptable source Deprecated sources These statements need to be verified by other sources or removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laella ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
After my initial changes, a discussion about them should have been started, insted of using the notes for discussion and reverting before discussion, especially as other involved users are experienced. Unfortunately, this did not happen, but it seems like puppetry in favor of the reverting editor and/ or logged out editing. The modification issued by me, reflects the effort to integrate an open-minded viewpoint, so the reader can shape his/ her opinion, all of which has been removed without discussion. Following are the points which have been attacked and used as argument to remove plenty of other content and information. If there are any more points you would like to discuss within my version of the relevant section, please add them to the list and/ or discussion.
Potentially biased allegations According to several sources on the web (of which I referenced one, below is another), there is no evidence for the points remarked by the OAS, the main body arguing for fraud. If you can name more relevant bodies who argue fraud specific, please do so. http://cepr.net/press-center/press-releases/no-evidence-that-bolivian-election-results-were-affected-by-irregularities-or-fraud-statistical-analysis-shows
Outdated/irrelevant sources The outdated reference in question might be an article, which is not news, but a thourough analysis based on a book written by the author and therefore the argument brought up is not substanciated; please argue content specific; please specify what is irrelevant. https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/154/25922.html
Biased to one side of this controversy The article in the current, reverted version is obviously biased towards the opposition and referenced by similarly biased neoliberal media articles, omitting important facts and whitewashing the actual happenings by improper wordings. As stated in the rules, the article should point out differing points of view, so the reader has the freedom to shape his opinion instead of being obviously directed into one direction.
Perfectly serious. If you're unable to comprehend the neutrality of the original phrasing versus your own positive-spin version, then there is no point carrying on this conversation, although to be honest that was already apparent a while ago. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 13:51, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Protesters against the Áñez government are free to claim what they wish about Áñez. Our job is to present a balanced view of the situation and not tell readers which side is acting correctly. This also means that we should include instances of verifiable violence from the right-wing opposition in a section that talks about Evo Morales' resignation which he and the military claimed was done to calm tensions. Yautja1917 ( talk) 08:11, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
First, thank you Yautja1917 for changing the citation from telesur.
This incident, while relevant in a discussion of the 2019 Bolivian political crisis, is simply out of place in an article about Bolivia as a whole. The incident is very specific in location, lasted less than a day and had no lasting effect on the country's history, laws, the 2019 election, or anything else. As an example of community justice, which is legal in Bolivia, this is not even a dramatic sample. I don't find that this adds anything to a general understanding of the country.
Further, if the consensus is that this line needs to stay, at the very least it needs to be moved. Currently it is awkwardly placed. It is, out of context, sandwiched between 2 sentences describing Morales resignation.
Amidst allegations that Morales rigged the 2019 Bolivian general election and after widespread protests organized to dispute the election, former government officials reported that Morales' arrest was being sought.[59][60] Members of the right-wing opposition set fire to the Vinto Town Hall and dragged Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) party member and mayor Patricia Arce down the street, where they humiliated her physically and verbally. [61] Morales resigned on 10 November 2019, shortly after the military recommended his resignation in order to pacify the country.[62]
Laella ( talk) 14:07, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
MIT specifically disavowed the study and stated that it should be referenced as a CEPR study. This doesn't mean 'getting around that restriction' by saying "working at MIT". MIT didn't want to be associated with it. If an employee does freelance work on their own time, it's generally accepted that they don't get to attach their regular employer's name to it, especially for the purpose of lending credence. Much in the same way I can't claim that my employer is associated with what I am writing here.
On 4 December, the Organization of American States published their final report of the audit of the elections, confirming intentional manipulation and irregularities in the electoral process.[72] However, CEPR Co-Director Mark Weisbrot noted that the OAS Electoral Observer Mission has committed serious and puzzling errors throughout its reporting on the Bolivian election.[73] The CEPR-findings were confirmed by researchers
working at MIT andcommissioned by CERP to conduct an independent proof of the CERP and of the OAS analysis.
Besides the MIT issue, I don't feel like this paragraph is relevant at all to Bolivia as a whole. I am in favor of removing this paragraph altogether. There are more relevant pages where this is included. Laella ( talk) 14:51, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
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Yautja1917:, There are not any articles or retractions in english media (that I can find). Here is a link to an article in spanish, it shows the letter itself, which IS in english. There are plenty of articles about MIT's letter disavowing the study in spanish.
https://www.lostiempos.com/actualidad/pais/20200305/lee-carta-del-mit-donde-niega-haber-realizado-estudio-que-pone-duda-fraude -
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75.89.71.71 ( talk) 05:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
The aymara version "Wuliwya" is NOT a mispronounciation of Bolivia, but a perfectly correct adaptation of the country's name to aymaran phonology. Please stop reverting to this absolute nonsense. br:Implijer:Pokorny — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.111.133 ( talk) 12:43, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I found this line in the 'Economy' section, 'The government expects to hold a binding referendum in 2004 on plans to export natural gas.', which means that some information is outdated. Moreover, a lot of things have changed lately on this account. Can somebody who knows better that me update this?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.251.31.90 ( talk) 11:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
A Good Article Review on this article has ended, and in a unanimous 5 to 0 decision, this article has been delisted, primarily for very sparse reference coverage. The references template up top is probably the first indication here. Review archived at Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 8. Homestarmy 04:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on South America at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#South America whose scope would include Bolivia. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Theres a bit of vandalism on this page. The page states that the Bolivian state is "Socialist"?, an odd one, as this would mean that in real terms Capitalism has ended in Bolivia and they are awaiting the transition to Communism... since capitalism is doing fine in Bolivia and is still a "democratic republic" this should change. Just because Evo is a socialist, dousnt mean the country is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Red Heathen ( talk • contribs) 23:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC).
-G
I have a question regarding the literacy rate paragraph in the "Demographics" section:
Reading the article I noticed the following sentence: "The literacy rate is low in many rural areas, but according to CIA the literacy rate is 87% which is higher than Brazil’s literacy rate or other Middle Eastern countries." Obviously, neither Brazil nor Bolivia are Middle Eastern countries, so I'm assuming this is just a typo. I was going to edit this, but I didn't know if you meant that the literacy rate is "higher than Brazil's or many Middle Eastern countries," or whether you meant "higher than Brazil's or other South American countries." -- Raulpascal 15:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. My question, though, was about the comparison, rather than the actual literacy rate. Appreciate the clarification, though.-- Raulpascal 21:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello everyone! You may want to go to Latin cultures an participate in the article and discussion. There are a lot of disputed statements... The Ogre 12:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Really? I thought both of them were capital cities... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joshuamouth ( talk • contribs) 12:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC).
{{ editprotected}} I spent some months in Bolivia in 2006 and as an art enthusiast I asked around about who were the more well-known Bolivian artists. The name Roberto Mamani Mamani (yes, he has the same paternal and maternal last name) came up more often than any other. I saw some of his work and it is quite good; furthermore, he has had a big influence on other Bolivian artists. His paintings are prominently featured in "Constitutional Hall" in Sucre and in "Casa de la Moneda" in Potosi. His name should definitely be added to the list of modern Bolivian artists. (adwh)
Browsing Bolivia's constitution (in Spanish, as there appears to be no English version on the Internet), I noticed that there is no officially designated ("constitutional") capital. Sucre is mentioned to be the seat of the judiciary, but it is not mentioned as a designated capital, per se. In addition, the constitution does mention La Paz once as the location of the "Government." In either case, there appears to be no officially designated capital, so I wonder why Sucre is labeled as such ... -- Mike Beidler 14:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
According to Guinness World Records, Bolivia's total of 192 coups d'etat during its history is greater than any other country.
The Swedish editions of 2004, 2005 and 2006 of Guinness World Records do not mention this fact. Which edition does? // StefanB sv 20:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I had just read that most Bolivians now Self-Identify as Mestizo. I see this as very significant. I think that if someone can find more sources, than the information should be changed.
If a mestizo is a hispanicized Amerindian, then so be it. It must be acknowledged, that no racial implications must follow from the use of this term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.71.71 ( talk) 05:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Under the Culture section is a large paragraph concerning Protestantism in Bolivia. The sources used (Kray, Brusco, Gill, Burdick, Corten) are making generalizations about the general effect of Evangelical Pentecostalism across Latin America and do not present specific enough data for this article. I live in Santa Cruz where I know the Association of Christian Evangelicals is divided almost 50/50 between followers of Movement to Socialism (MAS) and traditional conservatives. In the case of Bolivia, it is too much of a generalization to say Protestantism is directly associated with capitalism. Political tendencies are still determined by social class, whether Evangelical Christian or not. -- Hope4allnations 00:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I reverted ( diff the insertion of the words "Quechua and Aymara are not official languages" into a couple of places by User:Jose142128 because the article itself isn't the pace to discuss factual accuracy. The CIA factbook seems to regard them as official, but maybe there's a subtle distinction I didn't spot during my brief search - I'll leave it to people more knowledgeable about Bolivia than me to decide whether anything needs clarifying here, or whether Jose is just mistaken. Iain99 Balderdash and piffle 22:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I've just read that the Virgin Mary is officially recognised as an "Admiral of the Bolivian Navy", and was formally crowned in 1925 as "Queen of the Bolivian Republic". I know it sounds absurd, but I'm not making this up. It's from a newspaper article ("Virgin on the miraculous", about Copacabana, Bolivia, by Campbell Smith, in The Age, 3 July 2004). Is there any truth to this? -- JackofOz 03:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
is way too long especially considering it has its own article. Michellecrisp ( talk) 23:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that since the modification of the constitution in 2004, there is no official language in Bolivia ? -- Pixeltoo ( talk) 12:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I think this discussion needs to wait until after the success or failure of the proposed constitution in future national referendum because it recognizes 36 official languages plus Spanish.-- David Barba ( talk) 03:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
The current IPA symbols used for transcriptions of Spanish: Spanish pronunciation: [re̞ˈpuβ̞lika ð̞e̞ β̞o̞liβ̞ja]. The vowels "e" and "o" are mid-vowels in Spanish, typed /e̞/ and /o̞/ respectively. 84.120.160.88 ( talk) 17:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Can somebody include in the page the Bolivian maps from the beginning of the republic, it could be very good to understand the Latin American history in general.
Here there are links to a very good maps from the Bolivian's history:
ALTO AND BAJO PERU, 1810 [2]
PERU AND BOLIVIA, 1855 [3]
REPUBLIC OF BOLIVIA, 1859 [4]
REPUBLIC OF BOLIVIA, 1894 [5]
REPUBLIC OF BOLIVIA, 1904 [6]
Thanks.
-- Georgeguitar ( talk) 18:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no sense of scale for this picture. By looking here:
http://www.galuzzi.it/Details.aspx?AlbumID=15&Page=31 http://www.galuzzi.it/Details.aspx?AlbumID=15&Page=32
it appears that they are about a meter tall.
DiagonalArg ( talk) 13:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
The movie "Our Brand Is Crisis" is about this election, in which "Goni" won, just barely. Results were:
22.5% 624,126 Gonzalo "Goni" Sa´nchez de Lozada (MNR) 20.9% 581,884 Evo Morales (MAS) 20.9% 581,163 Manfred Reyes Villa (NFR) (hurt by corruption charge, from 40%) 16.3% 453,375 Jaime Paz Zamora (MIR) from http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/kmm368/2002_Bolivian_election.pdf page 177
The US ambassador charged Evo Morales with associating with drug dealers, which boosted his popularity. ( Martin | talk • contribs 09:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC))
According to the new constitution:
Artículo 4 El Estado respeta y garantiza la libertad de religión y de creencias espirituales, de acuerdo con sus cosmovisiones. El Estado es independiente de la religión.
Article 4
The state respects and guarantees the liberty of religion and of spiritual beliefs, according to its world view. The state is independent from the religion.
So... I will update the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel32708 ( talk • contribs) 18:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Entirely correct. Thanks. Pexise ( talk) 20:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
It also has 37 official languages now. If you feel like updating that part to. ;) -- David Barba ( talk) 02:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
According to the new constitution:
<quote>"A Community that is Peaceful, Dignified, Sovereign, and Open to the International Community
Bolivia explicitly renounces the use of war as an instrument of international politics.
The new Constitution also specifically recognizes that Bolivia lives in a world based in interdependence; that in the past, however, governments entered into international agreements that facilitated the transfer of national resources into foreign hands, the loss of sovereignty, and enrolled the country in multilateral institutions under conditions unfavourable to the country.
The new National Constitution establishes the celebration of treaties that respond to the aims and goals of the state and list guiding principles which include:
- Non-interventionism - Respect for Human Rights and Indigenous Peoples - Environmental Conservation
As such, the Constitution formalizes efforts to achieve necessary balance in public international law, in economic terms (trade and investment), as well as protection of fundamental rights and the environment.
The document also raises to constitutional status a range of procedures to guarantee transparency and citizen participation in decisions about international treaties.
It establishes that the treatment of rights, be it national or international, must refer to and respect as equal those rights and norms set forth in the National Constitution."</quote> [1] http://www.art-us.org/node/316
Let's add this important info to the Bolivia page Egaliteuniversel ( talk) 08:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the Wiphala be displayed alongside the old flag on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.166.81 ( talk) 13:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Assessed the article as C, with top priority in both wikiprojects Bolivia and wikiprojects South America. Thanks, Ono ( talk) 18:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
it's the love de our lady de guadalupe
La Paz is the seat of government, therefore very often mistaken as the capital; Sucre the legal capital and seat of judiciary.
Um, I think there is two capitals in Bolivia, so...both are the capitals.- Warriorscourge ( ♠♣♥♦) 00:58, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
The Legislative is in La Paz along with the Executive, I dont think you grew in Bolivia as Santa Cruz never had any government branch-- LaNuitDesDemangeaisons 22:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Indeed Sucre is the capital and La Paz is just an administrative capital. NEVER Santa Cruz hosted any of the 3 powers we have in Bolivia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.169.60.149 ( talk) 01:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Bolivia has had 2 capitals for quite some time. Sucre is the traditional capital and La Paz is the "Seat of Government" or "Administrative Capital" as established by law. This should be made clear, as there are current tensions over this and there was some bloodshed when the government was moved to La Paz. It is quite a historical issue and very unique to the country (others include The Netherlands, Israel, and South Africa). As stated before, Santa Cruz has never hosted any of the 3 powers. Its financial importance, now, should not be confused with its historic status (it has developed into a city just for the last 30 years). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.55.254 ( talk) 19:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
[esˈtado plurinaˈsjonal ðe βoˈliβja]),
D becomes ð between vowels. and it remains as /d/ after a dental consonant.
and plurinacional is NOT accentuated as "plurinaCIOnal", but as "plurinacioNAL".
so it should be [esˈtaðo plurinasjoˈnal de βoˈliβja]),
Two questions: Does anyone have a link to an English version of the new Constitution?
What does the "Plurinational" in the official name refer to?
Thanks! Josh ( talk) 21:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
As this document has been locked, I cannot add anything but it would be relevant that someone take it upon themselves to fill in the information for the leftist governments prior to the 1952 revolution (Barrientos) and the interim government and coup before Garcia Meza (Guevara and Natusch Busch). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.55.254 ( talk) 19:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I think an orthographic projection should be used, it is a pretty big country, and It would help people get a better idea of the location of Bolivia. Any support?
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That's a lovely photograph, the one with the caption that reads "The llama is one of the icons of the Bolivian altiplano." But I think the animal in the photo is actually an Alpaca. It looks too furry to be a llama. (The llama is their beast of burden, and the alpaca is their source of wool.)— MiguelMunoz ( talk) 05:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
The Flag of Bolivia is supposed to have the seal on it, not seperately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexGu100 ( talk • contribs) 00:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
This site: [ Bolivia] talks about the Indian Political Awakening in Bolivia. Agre22 ( talk) 19:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)agre22
The llama is one of the icons of the Bolivian altiplano.
Since when is the llama an "icon" of the "Bolivian" altiplano? When I think of llama, I automatically associate it with the Andes, or with South America. I don't think, "llama...Bolivian altiplano!" Essentially, the llama is an icon of the Andes, not of any particular nation. I'll be editing the statement to: A llama in the Laguna Colorada, a shallow salt lake in the southwestern Bolivian sector of the Altiplano.-- MarshalN20 | Talk 22:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
It is a topic of particular interest for me. I am including a file on the concept as a contribution. Thanks.-- Camilo Sanchez ( talk) 06:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
As part of the doughnut drive 2009 project it's criticial that masitas are covered. Can anyone help? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 21:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
While reading this article to learn more about Bolivia, I noticed the "Further Reading" section was dominated by books and articles that apparently have little or nothing to do with Bolivia, but instead concern the growth of Protestantism in Latin America. Many of them aren't even about Bolivia, but about Mexico, Colombia, and Brazil.
The following items have been removed:
These items would fit more appropriately into the "Further Reading" sections of other articles. We could use more works that concern Bolivia in the "Further Reading" section of this article. Any suggestions? 24.113.203.35 ( talk) 02:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Is the proper name the Plurinational State of Bolivia, as listed by the UN and the WHO, or the Republic of Bolivia, as listed by the US Library of Congress? Onopearls ( t/ c) 19:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Bolivia.pdf
http://www.who.int/countries/bol/en/
http://data.un.org/CountryProfile.aspx?crName=Bolivia%20(Plurinational%20State%20of)
The importance given to the Bolivian military forces within this article are blown out of proportion compared to it's neighbors, first world countries and superpower(s). most articles depicting a country show an minor excerpt of their respective military entries. In this work, there are 9 main sections devoted to that very subject, for what I've seen this is a subsection the "government and politics" section. This might have been done as a show of strength in an encyclopedic site.-- neolandes ( talk) 06:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The article states: According to 2008-2009 studies by Gallup and NGO the population of Bolivia is 59% Catholic, 15% Incan, 12% atheist and agnostic, 11% Protestant (Evangelical) and 3% Baha'i, Buddhist and other affiliations.
Could someone provide more specific information about those studies? What's their name and where was it published? I found it impossible to check this information. Gugganij ( talk) 18:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
This amazing figure appears with no references, and I have not been able to find any solid sources that confirm it. The only sources I did find seem to be getting their information from this very article.
A priori, the number is quite unbelievable. Just to set the scale, to get to 85 cumulative coups d'etat, it took the continent of Africa 48 years, with 33 countries "contributing" (that statistic does have a reference; see the article on coup d'etat). The Britannica article on Bolivia mentions only a handful of "overthrows," and Wikipedia's own list of coups d'état and coup attempts article mentions Bolivia only three times.
Unless someone can find a reputable source, the claim that Bolivia had 193 coups d'etat should be deleted from the article, and replaced with the number that can be confirmed (even if that number is only four or five, that is still pretty impressive). Reuqr ( talk) 17:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering why the logo of Wiphala of Qulla Suyu has to be right area where the details from Bolivia are displayed? It does not maske sense to me to have it in that area and definitely confuses people (the same that confused me). Miguel.mateo ( talk) 01:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
The Whipala is not a Bolivia's national flag and should not be displayed in that area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.156.170 ( talk) 16:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
There are no reliable sources for names of Bolivia in Quechua, Aymara and Guaraní, and names listed in article are doubtful. E.g. according to official website of Gaceta Oficial del Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia ( http://www.gacetaoficialdebolivia.gob.bo), the Aymara name is Qullasuyu, not Wuliwya, and the Guaraní name is Vorivia, not Volívia. Aotearoa ( talk) 11:44, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The Aymara Wikipedia has Wuliwya Suyu as the translation, as does the Spanish Wikipedia. This page shows the area known as Qullasuyu. This map also shows the area (spelt Collasuyo): [7]. Pexise ( talk) 14:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Here there is a reliable source for the names in Quechua and Aymara. Salut, -- IANVS ( talk) 16:36, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
The lead reads like a political promotion of the current administration. I tagged it as needing LOTS of improvement...-- Novus Orator 07:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
[10] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.200.159.162 ( talk) 04:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes it is, that's a lease, not sovereign land. Pexise ( talk) 21:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
The reason is that Evo Morales's Cabinet changes every year and governments are in power, I think it is encyclopedic having to change this info in each management. -- Nair ( talk) 15:52, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Under the capitals section there is no mention of La Paz. However, it was on there earlier this month when I checked! People need to know what both capitals are, right? Ladygagafan33 ( talk) 16:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
The history here is ONLY the history of the Andean region. Seems to indicate some sort of bias. Can someone round out the article w/ a history of lowlands? Tapered ( talk) 20:38, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you. Unfortunately, there is relatively little information about the history of the lowlands, as this region was not very populated or involved in national politics for the most part of Bolivia's post-independence history, which is why historians and the media have focused on the Andean part of the country. The development of the region came chiefly because of aggresive initiatives carried out by the Banzer dictatorship of the '70s, and hasn't stopped growing since. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.102.190 ( talk) 20:57, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
This should be revised since its actual official name clearly says "Plurinational State"
There seems to be a dispute over the
flag of Bolivia in the article. I am changing the bolivian flag on the infobox for the flag on the left, since that is the National Flag (Bandera nacional) as opposed to State Flag (Bandera del Estado) which is the one with the coat of arms in it. The National flag is by far the most probable one to be encountered by people, be it on television, sporting events etc. The state flag is to be used by the government only. Besides there is no need to show the coat of arms twice, side by side. As an example, on the
Peru article the civil flag is put instead of the state flag.--
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When one does a Google search for Bolivia, the following coordinates come:6°42′43″S 64°39′58″W / 16.712°S 64.666°W / -16.712; -64.666 Only the second portion is on the page and the google preview is apparently biases to a point of misconduct. The rest isn't anywhere on the page, so how does on change this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.145.130.238 ( talk) 17:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
i want travel to bolivia i love this paige im talking english very good and portiges good — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.25.142.3 ( talk) 17:21, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
The CAPITAL of Bolivia is Sucre and always was Sucre ,La Paz is just the government city and it does not have the title of administrative CAPITAL to prove it you can see: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Paz or you can just ask me, I am from Bolivia I live in Bolivia , I know the history of Bolivia and believe me I know what I am writing!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloshistory ( talk • contribs) 17:15, 7 April 2012 (UTC) Someone continues editing Bolivian Capital and putting La Paz like Administrative Capital — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloshistory ( talk • contribs) 21:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
OK both can be in the info box but La Paz has tobe like SEAT OF GOVERMENT or GOVERMENT CITY that is the right term used in bolivia,oh and excuse me can you tell me where are you from??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloshistory ( talk • contribs) 19:32, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Is this paragraph really necessary in the economy section:
In April 2000, Hugo Banzer, the former President of Bolivia, signed a contract with Aguas del Tunari, a private consortium, to operate and improve the water supply in Bolivia's third-largest city, Cochabamba. Shortly thereafter, the company tripled the water rates in that city, an action which resulted in protests and rioting among those who could no longer afford clean water. Amidst Bolivia's nationwide economic collapse and growing national unrest over the state of the economy, the Bolivian government was forced to withdraw the water contract.
Best-- MacedonianBoy ( talk) 16:50, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
The article is clearly slanted towards the Andean region, in detriment of the lowlands. The word "Oriente" is not even mentioned, and the economic and political importance of Santa Cruz is studiedly ignored. No mention is made of the colla/camba rivalry. No mention is made of the Jesuit missions in Oriente. Etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.16.16.13 ( talk) 12:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Ooops. I think I must have thought Jara Lake was bigger than it actually is, when I added this reference just now. Rather than pressing the undo button myself, I will let someone more expert than I choose to do it... or to do something more elaborate that allows the more minor lakes to be listed somewhere, too. TheAMmollusc ( talk) 13:08, 15 February 2013 (UTC); (subsequently changing the title of this section). TheAMmollusc ( talk) 13:11, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
In the section titled Sánchez de Lozada and Banzer: Liberalizing the economy
The photo caption:
La Paz skyline. The city is the highest capital in the world.
is in error. La Paz is not the capital of Bolivia. As is made clear in the Wikipedia antry on La Paz it is merely "the seat of government of Bolivia, as well as the departmental capital of the La Paz Department," while the capital of Bolivia is Sucre as stated in the Wikipedia pages on both cities and in the information box at the beginning of this entry as well.
The highest capital city in the world is Quito, Equador as mentioned in the Wikipedia entries on both La Paz and Quito. Dick Kimball ( talk) 12:49, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
The first part of the "History" section didn't have a title, so I've alled it "Pre-Colonial". I'm not sure this is the most appropriate name (as it is treating the most significant aspect of several thousand years as being the fact the Europeans hadn't shown up yet), but it's better than nothing. If anyone can think of a better name, feel free to change it. ( History of Bolivia and History of Bolivia to 1809 use "Pre-Hispanic" and "Pre-Columbian" respectively, which both have the same problem). Iapetus ( talk) 11:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
More than 30,000 words in content have been removed on a complete arbitrary method; sections that were quite accurate and complete, such as Geography and Ethnicity (which included tables with sourced content) have been removed with the pretext of being unsourced. While it is possible some of the content might have been unsourced, the article has suffered a complete removal of tons of content as the result of a decission made arbitrarily by a single user, without any discussion or even a notice on the talk page. I think flagging the article as unsourced (as it has been done) and starting a discussion here would have been more contributive, community friendly and overall more appropiate than just removing everything disregarding everyone else who works on this article. I cannot fail to mention that it seems the user who has performed this action in particular seems to have done similar actions in different articles, always arbitrarily and without any consensus. -- Metroxed ( talk) 10:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
there is no such thing as govermenment capital, that's why I erased that part, because can lead to misinterpretation -- Magomandrake ( talk) 18:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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1) I was at the airport and witnessed Colin Moynihan and the US advisor awaiting Zamora's arrival for the flight to Chile.
2) Sources include the UK ambassadors wife, President Zamora's mother, "Patty" Proctor (nee Boliviano) who lead the Quechua women during the unrest, and her brother, Eduardo "El Negro) Boliviano, a former jailed student activist who had become Bolivia's leading civil right's lawyer. — Preceding
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The article in general could be much better, but the pictures which illustrate it are pathetic to say the least.
The only president of the country who deserves a picture in Wikipedia article is ... Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, a fugitive currently in the US.
The picture for Aymara people is an old black and white picture ... as if Aymaras were a thing of the past.
Current president Evo Morales, the longest serving president of the country, and an Aymaran himself, does not deserve a picture in the article according to the Wikipedia illuminati editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.5.55 ( talk) 10:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Wow. I think maybe your tinfoil hat is too tight... 64.72.65.120 ( talk) 10:12, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Bolivia name - "PLURINATIONAL" monstrosity The translation of country`s official name as "PLURINATIONAL" is Spanglish or phony English or atrocious English but is not proper English.. Firstly, unlike in Spanish, there is no common English "pluri-" prefix. Thus "pluri-" is a foreign word. Secondly, there should be a hyphen. Thirdly, "nación" here clearly means "ethnos." not "state". The ¨naciones¨clearly implied Aymaras, Guaranís, etc. Ergo "Multi-Ethnic" Even if that is the countrys official name in English at the UN, that just means that Bolivia has lousy translators. "Multi-Ethnic" should be included at least to explain what the term "plurinacional" really MEANS. Mumbo-jumbophobe ( talk) 20:56, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
peoples." The drafters knew what they were doing and this was an intentional word choice that corresponds to the word nation in English.-- Carwil ( talk) 14:19, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
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The infobox information (it is clamed that 20% of Bolivians are Amerindians) contradicts the article on demographics of Bolivia which puts the percentage of indigenous people at over 50%. Maybe a higher number of Quechua and Aymara people have started to self-identify as mestizo, but this needs to be noted (if it is indeed the reason for the discrepancy between the various estimates). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.10.121.8 ( talk) 23:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
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"Bolivia was rated "Repressed" by The Heritage Foundation's 2010 Index of Economic Freedom.[61]"
I take issue with this statement because it assumes that 1) Because Bolivia isn't a first world country it's citizens are less well off, 2) nationalized industries are inherently negative and less "free" and 3) The Heritage Foundation can be counted on to provide a clear and unbiased analysis.
I suggest some other index of well-being to be included as a counter-point to the Heritage Foundation's assessment, especially in light of their progressive environmental and human rights policies. Thanks.
Krisandtim ( talk) 18:33, 17 April 2018 (UTC) Kris Tyler 17 April, 2018
According to this discussion and consensus, the flag shown should be the civil flag, rather than the government-only state flag. That's also in accordance with virtually all other country articles that have these types of flags. I agree with the consensus, which makes sense because the article is about the country, not about the government.
Since then, it has been changed back and forth several times without discussion, for example: [11], [12], [13], [14], etc.
Unless someone can give a good argument to overturn the previous consensus, and go against the usual practice in similar articles, I will change it back to the civil flag. -- IamNotU ( talk) 16:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
So, who's the president? GoodDay ( talk) 20:27, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Why does the country need a state flag? Why can't it be flag of Bolivia instead flag of Bolivia (state)? This is similar to the German and Peruvian state flags. ColorfulSmoke ( talk) 15:35, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
There are 4 citations by Telesur. Telesur is not an acceptable source Deprecated sources These statements need to be verified by other sources or removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laella ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
After my initial changes, a discussion about them should have been started, insted of using the notes for discussion and reverting before discussion, especially as other involved users are experienced. Unfortunately, this did not happen, but it seems like puppetry in favor of the reverting editor and/ or logged out editing. The modification issued by me, reflects the effort to integrate an open-minded viewpoint, so the reader can shape his/ her opinion, all of which has been removed without discussion. Following are the points which have been attacked and used as argument to remove plenty of other content and information. If there are any more points you would like to discuss within my version of the relevant section, please add them to the list and/ or discussion.
Potentially biased allegations According to several sources on the web (of which I referenced one, below is another), there is no evidence for the points remarked by the OAS, the main body arguing for fraud. If you can name more relevant bodies who argue fraud specific, please do so. http://cepr.net/press-center/press-releases/no-evidence-that-bolivian-election-results-were-affected-by-irregularities-or-fraud-statistical-analysis-shows
Outdated/irrelevant sources The outdated reference in question might be an article, which is not news, but a thourough analysis based on a book written by the author and therefore the argument brought up is not substanciated; please argue content specific; please specify what is irrelevant. https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/154/25922.html
Biased to one side of this controversy The article in the current, reverted version is obviously biased towards the opposition and referenced by similarly biased neoliberal media articles, omitting important facts and whitewashing the actual happenings by improper wordings. As stated in the rules, the article should point out differing points of view, so the reader has the freedom to shape his opinion instead of being obviously directed into one direction.
Perfectly serious. If you're unable to comprehend the neutrality of the original phrasing versus your own positive-spin version, then there is no point carrying on this conversation, although to be honest that was already apparent a while ago. Chaheel Riens ( talk) 13:51, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Protesters against the Áñez government are free to claim what they wish about Áñez. Our job is to present a balanced view of the situation and not tell readers which side is acting correctly. This also means that we should include instances of verifiable violence from the right-wing opposition in a section that talks about Evo Morales' resignation which he and the military claimed was done to calm tensions. Yautja1917 ( talk) 08:11, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
First, thank you Yautja1917 for changing the citation from telesur.
This incident, while relevant in a discussion of the 2019 Bolivian political crisis, is simply out of place in an article about Bolivia as a whole. The incident is very specific in location, lasted less than a day and had no lasting effect on the country's history, laws, the 2019 election, or anything else. As an example of community justice, which is legal in Bolivia, this is not even a dramatic sample. I don't find that this adds anything to a general understanding of the country.
Further, if the consensus is that this line needs to stay, at the very least it needs to be moved. Currently it is awkwardly placed. It is, out of context, sandwiched between 2 sentences describing Morales resignation.
Amidst allegations that Morales rigged the 2019 Bolivian general election and after widespread protests organized to dispute the election, former government officials reported that Morales' arrest was being sought.[59][60] Members of the right-wing opposition set fire to the Vinto Town Hall and dragged Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) party member and mayor Patricia Arce down the street, where they humiliated her physically and verbally. [61] Morales resigned on 10 November 2019, shortly after the military recommended his resignation in order to pacify the country.[62]
Laella ( talk) 14:07, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
MIT specifically disavowed the study and stated that it should be referenced as a CEPR study. This doesn't mean 'getting around that restriction' by saying "working at MIT". MIT didn't want to be associated with it. If an employee does freelance work on their own time, it's generally accepted that they don't get to attach their regular employer's name to it, especially for the purpose of lending credence. Much in the same way I can't claim that my employer is associated with what I am writing here.
On 4 December, the Organization of American States published their final report of the audit of the elections, confirming intentional manipulation and irregularities in the electoral process.[72] However, CEPR Co-Director Mark Weisbrot noted that the OAS Electoral Observer Mission has committed serious and puzzling errors throughout its reporting on the Bolivian election.[73] The CEPR-findings were confirmed by researchers
working at MIT andcommissioned by CERP to conduct an independent proof of the CERP and of the OAS analysis.
Besides the MIT issue, I don't feel like this paragraph is relevant at all to Bolivia as a whole. I am in favor of removing this paragraph altogether. There are more relevant pages where this is included. Laella ( talk) 14:51, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
@
Yautja1917:, There are not any articles or retractions in english media (that I can find). Here is a link to an article in spanish, it shows the letter itself, which IS in english. There are plenty of articles about MIT's letter disavowing the study in spanish.
https://www.lostiempos.com/actualidad/pais/20200305/lee-carta-del-mit-donde-niega-haber-realizado-estudio-que-pone-duda-fraude -
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