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This is weird. I need some help to piece together the definite project that Yousef planned. Some of my sources may be conflicting. WhisperToMe 08:35, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)
"The money was handed down to the plotters originated from Al-Qaeda, the international Islamic jihadi organization then based in Sudan". Sources needed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.189.171 ( talk) 07:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Bojinka is not a Croatian word or at least I've never heard it and it doesn't sound similar to other Croatian words I know.
As shallot says, "Bojinka" means nothing in Serbo-Croatian. I'm also a native speaker and never heard the word. If that's not enough, the appropriate google search produces only one page (which is about how the word is, despite claims, not serbocroatian). Searches for possible alternate spellings produce the same page for bodžinka and no pages for bodzinka. Not that I had to check, but there it is. Zocky 04:58, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Which one of you degenerates wants it to come off as "serbs have no language" Serbo-Croatian is not a language, there is only serbian and no frakking Croatian. im changing this (morons) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.236.222.23 ( talk) 00:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm wondering how much of this is real. Apologies for being cynical. Secretlondon 19:49, Dec 6, 2003 (UTC)
Anyways, I would like to find a complete list of flights that Yousef targeted so I can put it in the article. WhisperToMe 09:16, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Since there are more google hits for "Operation Bojinka" than "Project Bojinka", so i plan on moving the page. WhisperToMe 22:02, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
There is a mention of "Arab Afghans". What does that mean? Arabs migrated to Afghanistan? Afghan Muslims? Arabs and Afghans? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.224.97.8 ( talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Notes on some of my light copy editing of today.
I removed this. I don't know what "proctored" really means here, and what happened and what were the results? Was this an act of terror or a test explosion that for some reason happened in an abandoned theater?
From the government of the Phillippines to the government of the US?
Incidentally, I also wonder how much of this is real. There is a lot of stuff peering into the thoughts of terrorists, and the lack of attribution throughout the article is troubling. The look of it is that it was mostly cribbed from a single source. Tempshill 18:10, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)
It was a test explosion. I now clarified this.
The statement above came from a CNN article. http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/03/11/gen.phil.terror.blueprint/?related. And yes, the government of the Philippines sent information about these people from the government of the U.S.
By the way, how would "Bojinka" be spelled in Arabic?
WhisperToMe 04:15, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I adjusted some of the bibliography to conform to my understanding of wikipedia:cite your sources; specifically, that when you are citing a news source, even if it is an internet news source, like cnn.com, you should list the name of the source. If we have an article on that source, link to it. The point of this is so that people can quickly check the footnote and see what source you got the information from. Presumably, it doesn't matter when you retrieved it, because CNN won't be changing an article with a byline and a date. If it's an internet site that is not a news source, than you should use the alternate citation format, because documents can change over time. DanKeshet
Going another step, it would be good if we could split those up into external links and a bibliography of cited sources. DanKeshet
Frankly, when the first item in the bibliography links to thepropagandamatrix, I get a little squeegly given the other material at that site.
I found a typo on the main page and don't know how to fix it:
One of the conversions to US dollars must be wrong. -- Mihai 20:47, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I have moved the Terrorism section from the Nitroglycerin article to here because it does not belong there, and it looks similar to the text already in this article.
The Manila-based terrorist plot known as Project Bojinka called for the bombing of 11 airliners over the Pacific Ocean on January 21 and 22, 1995. Al Qaida agents were planned to plant liquid bombs, called "Mark II" "micro bombs" on the aircraft. The device was inside Casio digital watches that contain nitroglycerin for the explosive and stabilizing that looked like cotton balls. Two 9 Volt batteries taken from children's toys were used to power light bulb filaments and to detonate the nitroglycerin. Trace amounts of sulphuric acid, nitrobenzene, silver azide, liquid acetone, and nitrate were present. The wiring was attached to the arm of the watch using a tiny space below the calculator. The alteration was so small that one could still wear the bomb as a watch.
This bomb was tested several times, first by al-Qaida member Ramzi Yousef inside of a mall in Cebu City, then by cohort Wali Khan Amin Shah inside the Greenbelt Theatre in Manila on December 1, 1994.
The bomb also was tested on Philippine Airlines Flight 434 on December 11, 1994. He boarded the plane under an assumed name while hiding the batteries in the soles of his shoes. He assembled the bomb in the lavatory on the flight's Ninoy Aquino International Airport to Cebu leg. He stuck it under his seat and left the plane in Mactan-Cebu International Airport. The bomb exploded on the Cebu to New Tokyo International Airport (Now Narita International Airport) ( Narita, Japan), leg, killing a Japanese businessman and injuring 10 others. The plane made an emergency landing at Naha, Okinawa.
Project Bojinka was foiled on the night of January 6 and the morning of January 7, 1995, when Manila police found the plans and the bomb factory in Yousef's Manila apartment after a chemical fire occurred there.
- Wikibob | Talk 13:41, 2004 Apr 25 (UTC)
I don't understand this sentence:
Phase III is not mentioned in the article before this. Was it part of the Bojinka plots, or a "sequel"? - Kevin Saff 20:12, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
It can also refer to a part of "Phase II". WhisperToMe 22:30, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
If you look at the methodologies of "Al Qaeda," there is an underlying current of grandiose style attacks. It seems bojinka was kicked around between the players involved at the time, Hambali, Yousef and KSM, and with the detection of this plot and the ensuing action against it, KSM seems to have brought this to the attention of what we now know as Al Qaeda. Further tweaking of the plan seems to yield the 9/11 attacks and, as of late, the Aug. 10, 2006 trasnatlantic Airline bomb plot. (I'd give the link to the WIKI page, but the title keeps changing.) Same style of liquid explosives, same mid-flight explosions of a large number of airliners, only over the atlantic rather than the pacific. --
DasGooch
22:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the language that would inform someone how to make a bomb. I can't believe someone would just print that information in this day and age. They even had the appropriate measurements of the ingredients.
They didn't have ALL of the steps... RV - XD WhisperToMe 23:32, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't doubt that as I can't see how anyone could be that irresponsible, but the article did contain specific enough information that someone may be tempted to see how far they can get. I deleted it once it became clear that the article was just as informative without that information. I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes, but in this time of the Patriot Act and terrorism, we should all really be more careful. Ramsquire 21:02, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Those instructions were in a Washington post article published post-911. WhisperToMe 21:55, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Oh OK. I just hope you saw my point. I'd hate to lose this site because it put on some U.S. government watchlist. I like coming here as a quick reference.
it says they found fuses im guessing it means Fuse (explosives) but i would like to check before changing Plugwash 02:18, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The name of the plot is actually "Oplan Bojinka", which turns up nothing in Wikipedia. I think this article should be renamed. "Operation Bojinka" is used a lot in the media but I think it's just an obvious confusion with Oplan. We can have a redirect on the Operation Bojinka page.
Also, I think the "bojinka" word came from slang used in Bosnia during the fighting -- not a real word that would appear in a Bosnian dictionary. At least, I think this is what all the press accounts are based on; I am not sure exactly where the claim is first made and I have no clue whether or not the word is used there in such a way.-- csloat 18:41, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... I haven't seen "Oplan" at all - I've seen much more of "Operation" or "Project". Also, "Oplan" gets 382 hits while "Operation" gets much more hits. WhisperToMe 22:14, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I will now change this page to a redirect; someone help me out and let me know if I am doing this right. I'm going to change this page to a redirect but I don't know how to get the comments switched over to the right page. (csloat)
I'm not sure all the dates and times are on here, but if someone would make a timeline of the events in this case I think it would clarify and explain some of the events. I don't have time to do it myself, unfortunately. Anyway, it's just an idea. -- jacobolus, 00:42, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
This is a nit, but in the following statement:
"The density of the explosive cocktail would be about 1.3."
is this density, which would require units, e.g., g/cc, or is it specific gravity, which is dimensionless. And no, I don't plan on building a bomb. :)
Thanks! Jefflyon 04:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
This sentance makes no sense at all. Density applies to gases, liquids and solids. The number 1.3 by itself does not help.
From the first sentence of the article:
pronounced Bo-JIN-ka, except in Egyptian where it is Bo-GIN-ka
Would that be "bo-YIN-ka" & "bo-JIN-ka" or huh? -- 24.31.29.171 08:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it entirely sensible to have detailed listings of bomb components/"ingredients", and the steps by which they're made? -Ryan
Is that a mistranslation for digital? Midgley 19:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Hopiakuta 14:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Why doesn't anyone mention the CIA connections? These terror plans aren't hatched in a vacuum! Secret-services often participate in crimes and instigate terror in order to fulfill a strategic aim. It is naive and misleading to leave out this aspect. Unbecoming of wikipedia. 124.197.4.8 21:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
since the plot is also known as "Manila air investigation", a page called "Manila air investigation" should redirect to this article. -- Pinnecco 08:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see the comments above regarding Oplan. It is specifically referred to that way by KSM and by every terrorism scholar who writes about it. This was removed by User:Kermitbuns with the note "Oplan was a misunderstanding by the author, thats a military acronym for Operations Plan." I don't think that's true; if it was a misunderstanding, it was one shared by many authors including the author of the plot itself. Oplan should be restored. csloat 04:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought, if you were travelling on a foriegn airline, you couldn't just get off in the city it stops in.
For example if I'm flying from Tokyo-Osaka-Vancouver on Air Canada, I can't do Tokyo-Osaka. Or did they book for the final city? WestJet 19:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd love to see a reliable and verifiable reference that supports this edit as "fact." Bear in mind that Wikipedia's policy on NPOV does not allow opinion (referenced or not) to be asserted as fact. V C 00:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this a US term for police station? If so, could the article be changed to use words that make sense elsewhere, please. Quartic ( talk) 14:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
The end of this sentence needs a re-write:
"Yousef thought of several ways to kill the president, including placing nuclear bombs on Clinton's motorcade route, firing a Stinger missile at Air Force One or the presidential limousine, launching theater ballistic missiles at Manila and or killing him with phosgene, a chemical weapon, which all of the plots are unlikely to happen to say the least wishful thinking" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.42.106 ( talk) 13:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
i think it would make sense to include in a list of people involved in the plot with short descriptions of their roles (financier, perpetrator) and status (deceased, at-large, in custody) in the article.
maybe someone who wrote large chunks of this article could easily create such a listing? 92.225.88.123 ( talk) 23:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm struck by the order of the items in the "See also" section. They aren't listed numerically / alphabetically. Are they listed by some kind of degree of importance to the main article? Failing that, the order seems totally arbitrary, like someone thinks of another article and tacks it onto the end. Can either the listing criteria be mentioned or the list reordered to seem less random? Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 14:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
He left Manila for several days, but was met by Islamist emissaries upon his return to Metro Manila. They asked him to attack United States President Bill Clinton, who was due to arrive in the Philippines on November 12, 1994 as part of a five-day tour of Asia. Yousef thought of several ways to kill the president, including placing nuclear bombs on Clinton's motorcade route, firing a Stinger missile at Air Force One or the presidential limousine, launching theater ballistic missiles at Manila and or killing him with phosgene, a chemical weapon. He abandoned the idea, as it would be too difficult to kill the President. However, he incorporated his plan to kill the Pope into the Bojinka plot
This whole section has no source and sounds unreliable.
met by Islamist emissaries - Who? Yousef thought of several ways to kill the president - What is the source for this? The various mechanisms to kill the president seems fantastic. Nuclear bombs? Really? launching theater ballistic missiles - And from where would he obtain these?
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This is weird. I need some help to piece together the definite project that Yousef planned. Some of my sources may be conflicting. WhisperToMe 08:35, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)
"The money was handed down to the plotters originated from Al-Qaeda, the international Islamic jihadi organization then based in Sudan". Sources needed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.189.171 ( talk) 07:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Bojinka is not a Croatian word or at least I've never heard it and it doesn't sound similar to other Croatian words I know.
As shallot says, "Bojinka" means nothing in Serbo-Croatian. I'm also a native speaker and never heard the word. If that's not enough, the appropriate google search produces only one page (which is about how the word is, despite claims, not serbocroatian). Searches for possible alternate spellings produce the same page for bodžinka and no pages for bodzinka. Not that I had to check, but there it is. Zocky 04:58, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Which one of you degenerates wants it to come off as "serbs have no language" Serbo-Croatian is not a language, there is only serbian and no frakking Croatian. im changing this (morons) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.236.222.23 ( talk) 00:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm wondering how much of this is real. Apologies for being cynical. Secretlondon 19:49, Dec 6, 2003 (UTC)
Anyways, I would like to find a complete list of flights that Yousef targeted so I can put it in the article. WhisperToMe 09:16, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Since there are more google hits for "Operation Bojinka" than "Project Bojinka", so i plan on moving the page. WhisperToMe 22:02, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)
There is a mention of "Arab Afghans". What does that mean? Arabs migrated to Afghanistan? Afghan Muslims? Arabs and Afghans? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.224.97.8 ( talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Notes on some of my light copy editing of today.
I removed this. I don't know what "proctored" really means here, and what happened and what were the results? Was this an act of terror or a test explosion that for some reason happened in an abandoned theater?
From the government of the Phillippines to the government of the US?
Incidentally, I also wonder how much of this is real. There is a lot of stuff peering into the thoughts of terrorists, and the lack of attribution throughout the article is troubling. The look of it is that it was mostly cribbed from a single source. Tempshill 18:10, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)
It was a test explosion. I now clarified this.
The statement above came from a CNN article. http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/03/11/gen.phil.terror.blueprint/?related. And yes, the government of the Philippines sent information about these people from the government of the U.S.
By the way, how would "Bojinka" be spelled in Arabic?
WhisperToMe 04:15, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I adjusted some of the bibliography to conform to my understanding of wikipedia:cite your sources; specifically, that when you are citing a news source, even if it is an internet news source, like cnn.com, you should list the name of the source. If we have an article on that source, link to it. The point of this is so that people can quickly check the footnote and see what source you got the information from. Presumably, it doesn't matter when you retrieved it, because CNN won't be changing an article with a byline and a date. If it's an internet site that is not a news source, than you should use the alternate citation format, because documents can change over time. DanKeshet
Going another step, it would be good if we could split those up into external links and a bibliography of cited sources. DanKeshet
Frankly, when the first item in the bibliography links to thepropagandamatrix, I get a little squeegly given the other material at that site.
I found a typo on the main page and don't know how to fix it:
One of the conversions to US dollars must be wrong. -- Mihai 20:47, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I have moved the Terrorism section from the Nitroglycerin article to here because it does not belong there, and it looks similar to the text already in this article.
The Manila-based terrorist plot known as Project Bojinka called for the bombing of 11 airliners over the Pacific Ocean on January 21 and 22, 1995. Al Qaida agents were planned to plant liquid bombs, called "Mark II" "micro bombs" on the aircraft. The device was inside Casio digital watches that contain nitroglycerin for the explosive and stabilizing that looked like cotton balls. Two 9 Volt batteries taken from children's toys were used to power light bulb filaments and to detonate the nitroglycerin. Trace amounts of sulphuric acid, nitrobenzene, silver azide, liquid acetone, and nitrate were present. The wiring was attached to the arm of the watch using a tiny space below the calculator. The alteration was so small that one could still wear the bomb as a watch.
This bomb was tested several times, first by al-Qaida member Ramzi Yousef inside of a mall in Cebu City, then by cohort Wali Khan Amin Shah inside the Greenbelt Theatre in Manila on December 1, 1994.
The bomb also was tested on Philippine Airlines Flight 434 on December 11, 1994. He boarded the plane under an assumed name while hiding the batteries in the soles of his shoes. He assembled the bomb in the lavatory on the flight's Ninoy Aquino International Airport to Cebu leg. He stuck it under his seat and left the plane in Mactan-Cebu International Airport. The bomb exploded on the Cebu to New Tokyo International Airport (Now Narita International Airport) ( Narita, Japan), leg, killing a Japanese businessman and injuring 10 others. The plane made an emergency landing at Naha, Okinawa.
Project Bojinka was foiled on the night of January 6 and the morning of January 7, 1995, when Manila police found the plans and the bomb factory in Yousef's Manila apartment after a chemical fire occurred there.
- Wikibob | Talk 13:41, 2004 Apr 25 (UTC)
I don't understand this sentence:
Phase III is not mentioned in the article before this. Was it part of the Bojinka plots, or a "sequel"? - Kevin Saff 20:12, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
It can also refer to a part of "Phase II". WhisperToMe 22:30, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
If you look at the methodologies of "Al Qaeda," there is an underlying current of grandiose style attacks. It seems bojinka was kicked around between the players involved at the time, Hambali, Yousef and KSM, and with the detection of this plot and the ensuing action against it, KSM seems to have brought this to the attention of what we now know as Al Qaeda. Further tweaking of the plan seems to yield the 9/11 attacks and, as of late, the Aug. 10, 2006 trasnatlantic Airline bomb plot. (I'd give the link to the WIKI page, but the title keeps changing.) Same style of liquid explosives, same mid-flight explosions of a large number of airliners, only over the atlantic rather than the pacific. --
DasGooch
22:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the language that would inform someone how to make a bomb. I can't believe someone would just print that information in this day and age. They even had the appropriate measurements of the ingredients.
They didn't have ALL of the steps... RV - XD WhisperToMe 23:32, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't doubt that as I can't see how anyone could be that irresponsible, but the article did contain specific enough information that someone may be tempted to see how far they can get. I deleted it once it became clear that the article was just as informative without that information. I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes, but in this time of the Patriot Act and terrorism, we should all really be more careful. Ramsquire 21:02, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Those instructions were in a Washington post article published post-911. WhisperToMe 21:55, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Oh OK. I just hope you saw my point. I'd hate to lose this site because it put on some U.S. government watchlist. I like coming here as a quick reference.
it says they found fuses im guessing it means Fuse (explosives) but i would like to check before changing Plugwash 02:18, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The name of the plot is actually "Oplan Bojinka", which turns up nothing in Wikipedia. I think this article should be renamed. "Operation Bojinka" is used a lot in the media but I think it's just an obvious confusion with Oplan. We can have a redirect on the Operation Bojinka page.
Also, I think the "bojinka" word came from slang used in Bosnia during the fighting -- not a real word that would appear in a Bosnian dictionary. At least, I think this is what all the press accounts are based on; I am not sure exactly where the claim is first made and I have no clue whether or not the word is used there in such a way.-- csloat 18:41, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... I haven't seen "Oplan" at all - I've seen much more of "Operation" or "Project". Also, "Oplan" gets 382 hits while "Operation" gets much more hits. WhisperToMe 22:14, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I will now change this page to a redirect; someone help me out and let me know if I am doing this right. I'm going to change this page to a redirect but I don't know how to get the comments switched over to the right page. (csloat)
I'm not sure all the dates and times are on here, but if someone would make a timeline of the events in this case I think it would clarify and explain some of the events. I don't have time to do it myself, unfortunately. Anyway, it's just an idea. -- jacobolus, 00:42, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
This is a nit, but in the following statement:
"The density of the explosive cocktail would be about 1.3."
is this density, which would require units, e.g., g/cc, or is it specific gravity, which is dimensionless. And no, I don't plan on building a bomb. :)
Thanks! Jefflyon 04:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
This sentance makes no sense at all. Density applies to gases, liquids and solids. The number 1.3 by itself does not help.
From the first sentence of the article:
pronounced Bo-JIN-ka, except in Egyptian where it is Bo-GIN-ka
Would that be "bo-YIN-ka" & "bo-JIN-ka" or huh? -- 24.31.29.171 08:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it entirely sensible to have detailed listings of bomb components/"ingredients", and the steps by which they're made? -Ryan
Is that a mistranslation for digital? Midgley 19:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Hopiakuta 14:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Why doesn't anyone mention the CIA connections? These terror plans aren't hatched in a vacuum! Secret-services often participate in crimes and instigate terror in order to fulfill a strategic aim. It is naive and misleading to leave out this aspect. Unbecoming of wikipedia. 124.197.4.8 21:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
since the plot is also known as "Manila air investigation", a page called "Manila air investigation" should redirect to this article. -- Pinnecco 08:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see the comments above regarding Oplan. It is specifically referred to that way by KSM and by every terrorism scholar who writes about it. This was removed by User:Kermitbuns with the note "Oplan was a misunderstanding by the author, thats a military acronym for Operations Plan." I don't think that's true; if it was a misunderstanding, it was one shared by many authors including the author of the plot itself. Oplan should be restored. csloat 04:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought, if you were travelling on a foriegn airline, you couldn't just get off in the city it stops in.
For example if I'm flying from Tokyo-Osaka-Vancouver on Air Canada, I can't do Tokyo-Osaka. Or did they book for the final city? WestJet 19:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd love to see a reliable and verifiable reference that supports this edit as "fact." Bear in mind that Wikipedia's policy on NPOV does not allow opinion (referenced or not) to be asserted as fact. V C 00:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this a US term for police station? If so, could the article be changed to use words that make sense elsewhere, please. Quartic ( talk) 14:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
The end of this sentence needs a re-write:
"Yousef thought of several ways to kill the president, including placing nuclear bombs on Clinton's motorcade route, firing a Stinger missile at Air Force One or the presidential limousine, launching theater ballistic missiles at Manila and or killing him with phosgene, a chemical weapon, which all of the plots are unlikely to happen to say the least wishful thinking" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.42.106 ( talk) 13:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
i think it would make sense to include in a list of people involved in the plot with short descriptions of their roles (financier, perpetrator) and status (deceased, at-large, in custody) in the article.
maybe someone who wrote large chunks of this article could easily create such a listing? 92.225.88.123 ( talk) 23:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm struck by the order of the items in the "See also" section. They aren't listed numerically / alphabetically. Are they listed by some kind of degree of importance to the main article? Failing that, the order seems totally arbitrary, like someone thinks of another article and tacks it onto the end. Can either the listing criteria be mentioned or the list reordered to seem less random? Thank you, Wordreader ( talk) 14:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
He left Manila for several days, but was met by Islamist emissaries upon his return to Metro Manila. They asked him to attack United States President Bill Clinton, who was due to arrive in the Philippines on November 12, 1994 as part of a five-day tour of Asia. Yousef thought of several ways to kill the president, including placing nuclear bombs on Clinton's motorcade route, firing a Stinger missile at Air Force One or the presidential limousine, launching theater ballistic missiles at Manila and or killing him with phosgene, a chemical weapon. He abandoned the idea, as it would be too difficult to kill the President. However, he incorporated his plan to kill the Pope into the Bojinka plot
This whole section has no source and sounds unreliable.
met by Islamist emissaries - Who? Yousef thought of several ways to kill the president - What is the source for this? The various mechanisms to kill the president seems fantastic. Nuclear bombs? Really? launching theater ballistic missiles - And from where would he obtain these?
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