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I think the detailed information about certain types of passenger coach bogies in use in the UK should be farmed out to separate articles; it's too specific and gives the article an unnatural focus. Instead we need more generalities about the uses and technologies of bogies. Matthew Brown (Morven) ( T: C) 01:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
In point number five,the article mentions "some form of transmission, usually an electrically powered traction motors or a hydraulically powered torque converter." It might be worth adding that often this will be via a cardan shaft to minimise axle load. 81.152.161.60 ( talk) 14:26, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Use of the company "Caterpillar Inc" should at least have a reference to their site and be properly capitalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.168.10 ( talk) 20:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
What is a bolster? What is a plank? What is special about a bogie bolster wagon? Chevin ( talk) 16:29, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
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14:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)Does anyone understand this "minimizing centrifugal forces" reference in the opening list of purposes. It kind of sounds like something copied from article to article without it being questioned, which is what I'm doing. It does not seem to me that any reduction in forces would apply EXCEPT that the forces would be distributed over more wheels. Rjstott ( talk) 16:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC) Looked up the reference and the statement here misquoted it so I'm changing it Rjstott ( talk) 08:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
I have got a question regarding use of "bogies" in trucks. When you check the Swedish, Norwegian and Finnish articles also truck and bus bogies are mentioned. They are missing from this article, so is there another name in English for truck and bus "bogies" or is the arrangement just unknown in the English speaking world? -- Gwafton ( talk) 10:56, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
IMHO a bogie (dolly) is a sub-assembly of axles in their own frame. Semi-trailer axles are part of the whole trailer. Incidentally, tandem strictly means in line, and whilst most examples refer to two item in line, there is no reason that there couldn't be three or more. Rjstott ( talk) 12:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
WOW, WAS THAT WRONG. EU runs much heavier. 10 tonnes on a single axle is 110% of 20,000#, 40 tonnes on five axles is 110% of 80,000# on a shorter wheelbase. Tandems are more dramatic, 20 tonnes (twice a single axle) is 130% of 34,000#, So so sorry for underestimating. Sammy D III ( talk) 21:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
These were used on 4-wheel wagons of Queensland Railways. Tabletop ( talk) 13:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
"tram bogies often neeed to pivot on the horizontal axis as well" Do bogies on railway carriges and railcars also allow for this? I might reword some section if this is the case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myrtone86 ( talk • contribs) 06:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
How about a little bit of mention of AMERICAN railroad trucks? We got a list and description of railroad bogies, every single one of which is used in Britain and the only mention I see of the US is that one of these British bogies, the Commonwealth bogie, is manufactured under license from an American company. Then down at the bottom, there is a single picture of a "US style truck with journal bearings", implying that the US railroads still use journal bearings, when in fact they stopped using them long ago. It was Britain that licensed production of the US truck for use on their railroads. .45Colt 13:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
The major components of a system should be explained on that system's article, as opposed to a separate definition list. – voidxor ( talk | contrib) 21:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Split this, convert to a disambig. The two topics would become:
Andy Dingley ( talk) 18:44, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I have closed the two merge proposals above, the first for no merge the second for merge. All three discussions are now stale. I suggest as voidxor suggests that you do the merge and then wait a couple of months. Then if there are no objections create the split, by copying the necessary material from this one into the new article and then put in a WP:RM for the move and creation of the dab page.
Please note the guidance in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia and make sure you place a link in the edit comment of the target article to the articles from which text is copied, this is needed for Copyright and because it helps trace the edit history of the copied text in the target article. -- PBS ( talk) 10:59, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Merge Articulated bogie into this article. I can't see the distinction otherwise. Andy Dingley ( talk) 18:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I have done the merge as the text in Articulated bogie was only one paragraph long. It will probably need better integration, but I will leave that to someone who know more about the subject. -- PBS ( talk) 11:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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I think the detailed information about certain types of passenger coach bogies in use in the UK should be farmed out to separate articles; it's too specific and gives the article an unnatural focus. Instead we need more generalities about the uses and technologies of bogies. Matthew Brown (Morven) ( T: C) 01:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
In point number five,the article mentions "some form of transmission, usually an electrically powered traction motors or a hydraulically powered torque converter." It might be worth adding that often this will be via a cardan shaft to minimise axle load. 81.152.161.60 ( talk) 14:26, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Use of the company "Caterpillar Inc" should at least have a reference to their site and be properly capitalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.214.168.10 ( talk) 20:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
What is a bolster? What is a plank? What is special about a bogie bolster wagon? Chevin ( talk) 16:29, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
In previous citation, url towards library with temporary pass was used. I've removed dead link towards it, but I was unable to find replacement link for pdf or any equivalent source that could be used as a citation Skeledzija ( talk) 11:12, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
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14:02, 27 November 2012 (UTC)Does anyone understand this "minimizing centrifugal forces" reference in the opening list of purposes. It kind of sounds like something copied from article to article without it being questioned, which is what I'm doing. It does not seem to me that any reduction in forces would apply EXCEPT that the forces would be distributed over more wheels. Rjstott ( talk) 16:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC) Looked up the reference and the statement here misquoted it so I'm changing it Rjstott ( talk) 08:06, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
I have got a question regarding use of "bogies" in trucks. When you check the Swedish, Norwegian and Finnish articles also truck and bus bogies are mentioned. They are missing from this article, so is there another name in English for truck and bus "bogies" or is the arrangement just unknown in the English speaking world? -- Gwafton ( talk) 10:56, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
IMHO a bogie (dolly) is a sub-assembly of axles in their own frame. Semi-trailer axles are part of the whole trailer. Incidentally, tandem strictly means in line, and whilst most examples refer to two item in line, there is no reason that there couldn't be three or more. Rjstott ( talk) 12:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
WOW, WAS THAT WRONG. EU runs much heavier. 10 tonnes on a single axle is 110% of 20,000#, 40 tonnes on five axles is 110% of 80,000# on a shorter wheelbase. Tandems are more dramatic, 20 tonnes (twice a single axle) is 130% of 34,000#, So so sorry for underestimating. Sammy D III ( talk) 21:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
These were used on 4-wheel wagons of Queensland Railways. Tabletop ( talk) 13:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
"tram bogies often neeed to pivot on the horizontal axis as well" Do bogies on railway carriges and railcars also allow for this? I might reword some section if this is the case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myrtone86 ( talk • contribs) 06:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
How about a little bit of mention of AMERICAN railroad trucks? We got a list and description of railroad bogies, every single one of which is used in Britain and the only mention I see of the US is that one of these British bogies, the Commonwealth bogie, is manufactured under license from an American company. Then down at the bottom, there is a single picture of a "US style truck with journal bearings", implying that the US railroads still use journal bearings, when in fact they stopped using them long ago. It was Britain that licensed production of the US truck for use on their railroads. .45Colt 13:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
The major components of a system should be explained on that system's article, as opposed to a separate definition list. – voidxor ( talk | contrib) 21:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Split this, convert to a disambig. The two topics would become:
Andy Dingley ( talk) 18:44, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I have closed the two merge proposals above, the first for no merge the second for merge. All three discussions are now stale. I suggest as voidxor suggests that you do the merge and then wait a couple of months. Then if there are no objections create the split, by copying the necessary material from this one into the new article and then put in a WP:RM for the move and creation of the dab page.
Please note the guidance in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia and make sure you place a link in the edit comment of the target article to the articles from which text is copied, this is needed for Copyright and because it helps trace the edit history of the copied text in the target article. -- PBS ( talk) 10:59, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Merge Articulated bogie into this article. I can't see the distinction otherwise. Andy Dingley ( talk) 18:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I have done the merge as the text in Articulated bogie was only one paragraph long. It will probably need better integration, but I will leave that to someone who know more about the subject. -- PBS ( talk) 11:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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