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This dubious claim is referenced to the "1971" volume - can anyone identify which Volume Number of the encyclopedia this claim relates to, so that it might be verified? William Harris talk 09:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello User:Jln115, as per my message on your talk page, you claim that the SABBS is the only organisation authorised in terms of the SA Animal Improvement Act, No. 62 of 1998 (AIA) to officially register Boerboels, and that the Boerboel is declared a landrace under act 62 of 1998. Here it is here, please direct me to the paragraph(s) that states this. William Harris (talk) 08:25, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
See: https://www.gov.za/sites/default/files/gcis_document/201411/38188gen980.pdf Jln115 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
I find it ironic that you may edit and remove information wrt to the Boerboel as you please without providing any proof/citations and without repercussion yet you expect me to provide proof(which I have) when I correct your un-cited edits.The Boerboel is a declared landrace under act 62 0f 1998 See attached page 22: http://www.gsdfmembers.co.za/_pdf/List%20of%20Dogs%20declared%20-%20animal-improvement-act-62-1998.pdf Jln115 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Cavalryman ( talk · contribs) The SABBS is not a Breed club it's a registered animal breeders society (registration Number 62/98/B-68) who are the only organisation authorised in terms of the SA Animal Improvement Act, No. 62 of 1998 (AIA) to officially register Boerboels, breeders may choose to register their Boerboels with KUSA however unless they are also registered with the SABBS they may not legally be called, sold or bred as Boerboels. Secondly the document provided clearly states that the Boerboel is a declared landrace under act 62 0f 1998, Im not going to debate whether or not the Boerboel meets your personal definition of a landrace, the fact is it is officially a declared South African landrace and thus it should be included as such on the page. Lastly I don't take kindly to be threatened, I will take this matter further if it cannot be resolved. Jln115 (talk)
Cavalryman ( talk · contribs) as per act 62 of 1998: ‘‘animal breeders’ society’’ means a group of persons promoting the breeding, the recording or registration, the genetic improvement and the use of a kind of animal or an animal of a specified breed of such kind of animal, determining and applying breed standards, recommending in its sole discretion the recording or registration of an animal or a specified breed of a kind of animal bred in or imported into the Republic, and who is registered in terms of section 8(7)(a)(i); (vi) Jln115 (talk)
William Harris ( talk · contribs) I stated that SABBS the only organisation that can officially register the Boerboel under act 62 0f 1998 AIA, I did not one claim its the only organisation that may register Boerboels. Boerboels registered with other organisation and not by the SABBS will not be recognised under the Act and will legally not be allowed to be marketed, sold or bred under the name "Boerboel" Jln115 (talk)
William Harris ( talk · contribs) Official statement from KUSA: "The Boerboel is now controlled by the newly formed SABBS - South African Boerboel Breeders’ Society established in 2014- which has replaced all the other Clubs. According to the official website the SABBS “is the only organization authorized in terms of the S Animal Improvement Act No 62 of 1998 (AIA) to officially register the Boerboel.” The Kennel Union of SA still recognizes the Boerboels registered on its books and these Boerboel are welcome to enter and compete at any KUSA All Breeds Shows " https://www.kusa.co.za/images/Gallery/MARCH%20NL%20CBC%20for%20pdf%202.pdf Jln115 (talk)
"In South African farms and homes, breeds that were renown for their fierceness such as the boerboel were kept or created as a deterrent to the real or imagined threat of black revolt against white privilege and property."
I've taken it on myself to remove the above mentioned paragraph as the Boerboel was never created as a deterrent specifically for black people(or a Black revolt), the Boerboel was created as a deterrent against predators and humans(of all races). A Dog can't not be racist and thus can't be created or kept to specifically target or deter one singular race. Boerboels have always been owned in large numbers by the non-white community as well. Jln115 (talk)
Whatever the rights and wrongs of this, it isn't OK to edit-war over it, so I've protected the page for a couple of days. Please use that time to reach an agreement or compromise on what should be in the article. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
In remote areas of South Africa the Boerboel was used by white farmers to protect their families and property on their homesteads and farms. [1]
In remote areas of South Africa the Boerboel was kept by the white population to protect their families and property in their homes and on their farms. [1]
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Hey guys, I have found a nice article with video about Boerboel - https://chihulife.com/boerboel-good-family-dog/ Where should I add it? To what section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark.barkan ( talk • contribs) 10:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Understood, what about this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuLNxVWVxl8 made by same guys, but looks nice.
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This dubious claim is referenced to the "1971" volume - can anyone identify which Volume Number of the encyclopedia this claim relates to, so that it might be verified? William Harris talk 09:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello User:Jln115, as per my message on your talk page, you claim that the SABBS is the only organisation authorised in terms of the SA Animal Improvement Act, No. 62 of 1998 (AIA) to officially register Boerboels, and that the Boerboel is declared a landrace under act 62 of 1998. Here it is here, please direct me to the paragraph(s) that states this. William Harris (talk) 08:25, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
See: https://www.gov.za/sites/default/files/gcis_document/201411/38188gen980.pdf Jln115 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
I find it ironic that you may edit and remove information wrt to the Boerboel as you please without providing any proof/citations and without repercussion yet you expect me to provide proof(which I have) when I correct your un-cited edits.The Boerboel is a declared landrace under act 62 0f 1998 See attached page 22: http://www.gsdfmembers.co.za/_pdf/List%20of%20Dogs%20declared%20-%20animal-improvement-act-62-1998.pdf Jln115 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Cavalryman ( talk · contribs) The SABBS is not a Breed club it's a registered animal breeders society (registration Number 62/98/B-68) who are the only organisation authorised in terms of the SA Animal Improvement Act, No. 62 of 1998 (AIA) to officially register Boerboels, breeders may choose to register their Boerboels with KUSA however unless they are also registered with the SABBS they may not legally be called, sold or bred as Boerboels. Secondly the document provided clearly states that the Boerboel is a declared landrace under act 62 0f 1998, Im not going to debate whether or not the Boerboel meets your personal definition of a landrace, the fact is it is officially a declared South African landrace and thus it should be included as such on the page. Lastly I don't take kindly to be threatened, I will take this matter further if it cannot be resolved. Jln115 (talk)
Cavalryman ( talk · contribs) as per act 62 of 1998: ‘‘animal breeders’ society’’ means a group of persons promoting the breeding, the recording or registration, the genetic improvement and the use of a kind of animal or an animal of a specified breed of such kind of animal, determining and applying breed standards, recommending in its sole discretion the recording or registration of an animal or a specified breed of a kind of animal bred in or imported into the Republic, and who is registered in terms of section 8(7)(a)(i); (vi) Jln115 (talk)
William Harris ( talk · contribs) I stated that SABBS the only organisation that can officially register the Boerboel under act 62 0f 1998 AIA, I did not one claim its the only organisation that may register Boerboels. Boerboels registered with other organisation and not by the SABBS will not be recognised under the Act and will legally not be allowed to be marketed, sold or bred under the name "Boerboel" Jln115 (talk)
William Harris ( talk · contribs) Official statement from KUSA: "The Boerboel is now controlled by the newly formed SABBS - South African Boerboel Breeders’ Society established in 2014- which has replaced all the other Clubs. According to the official website the SABBS “is the only organization authorized in terms of the S Animal Improvement Act No 62 of 1998 (AIA) to officially register the Boerboel.” The Kennel Union of SA still recognizes the Boerboels registered on its books and these Boerboel are welcome to enter and compete at any KUSA All Breeds Shows " https://www.kusa.co.za/images/Gallery/MARCH%20NL%20CBC%20for%20pdf%202.pdf Jln115 (talk)
"In South African farms and homes, breeds that were renown for their fierceness such as the boerboel were kept or created as a deterrent to the real or imagined threat of black revolt against white privilege and property."
I've taken it on myself to remove the above mentioned paragraph as the Boerboel was never created as a deterrent specifically for black people(or a Black revolt), the Boerboel was created as a deterrent against predators and humans(of all races). A Dog can't not be racist and thus can't be created or kept to specifically target or deter one singular race. Boerboels have always been owned in large numbers by the non-white community as well. Jln115 (talk)
Whatever the rights and wrongs of this, it isn't OK to edit-war over it, so I've protected the page for a couple of days. Please use that time to reach an agreement or compromise on what should be in the article. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
In remote areas of South Africa the Boerboel was used by white farmers to protect their families and property on their homesteads and farms. [1]
In remote areas of South Africa the Boerboel was kept by the white population to protect their families and property in their homes and on their farms. [1]
References
Hey guys, I have found a nice article with video about Boerboel - https://chihulife.com/boerboel-good-family-dog/ Where should I add it? To what section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark.barkan ( talk • contribs) 10:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Understood, what about this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuLNxVWVxl8 made by same guys, but looks nice.