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He mates,
I just write on the german version of this article. Just to let you know a source I found:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/x-51.htm
work out the facts if useful for yourselves ;-)
Kind Regards, AR79
Sucessfull test firing: [1], also is it the X-51 or the X-51A? - Ravedave 17:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
This page needs to be combined with Waverider Klausner ( talk • contribs) 18:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not an expert, so I won't make the changes myself, but it seems to me that in the Testing section, the third paragraph ("Four test flights...") logically belongs before the second ("During the flight demonstrations..."). Also, the fifth paragraph ("For the test flight...") restates much of the second. Zhiroc ( talk) 16:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Even though it failed to attain the 300-second duration the Air Force hoped for in its initial test, it still shattered the record for Hypersonic flight (previous record was 12 seconds). In fact, the article title for the pertinent reference directly says it broke a new record, and yet, as relevant as this part is, it's omitted from the article. Here's one more news story that mentions it directly, for what it's worth. KirkCliff2 ( talk) 16:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
How long can it stay in flight, how is it controlled, how does it land —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.184.81.97 ( talk) 21:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Here is a source for the recent (first) test flight, from the Los Angeles Times, with the meta-data ready to insert into the article as a source between reftags: Hypersonic aircraft shatters aviation records, Los Angeles Times, 2010-05-27, accessed 2010-05-27.
I don't have the time to do it myself right now. But others may find the article interesting, and useful for improving the article. Cheers, N2e ( talk) 03:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
project Boeing tax collection scam? Markthemac ( talk) 21:21, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
and who still does real world testing when you can accurately simulate testing and creating adjustments before going into production? Markthemac ( talk) 05:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
What does "it rides its own shockwave" actually mean? Peter Bell ( talk) 22:35, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
"The X-51 completed its first powered flight successfully on 26 May 2010. It reached a speed of Mach 5, an altitude of 70,000 feet (21,000 m) and flew for over 200 seconds; it did not meet the planned 300 second flight duration, however.[1][23] The flight had the longest scramjet burn time of 140 seconds. The X-43 had the previous longest flight burn time of 12 seconds,[23][24][25]"
I'm not sure what the 140 seconds is referring to. 140 seconds isn't mentioned in any of the articles sourced. Nydoc1 ( talk) 12:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Nydoc1
This article ( http://www.space.com/21572-air-force-x51a-waverider-pilot.html) stated that: 1) hypersonic means > Mach 5. Current WP article is saying mach 6. 2) The experimental craft sped up to Mach 5.1 at an altitude of 60,000 feet (18,300 m) 3) An artist view of X51 flight is available here: http://www.space.com/17091-hypersonic-waverider-how-the-usaf-x-51a-scramjet-works-video.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.174.103.32 ( talk) 05:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
The English units used throughout the article are given as "[statute] miles" and "mph", but "air [nautical] miles" and "knots" are standard for aviation. This seems not only misleading, but also would lead to inaccurate conversions to international units ("kilometers" and "km/h"). Could an established expert in the subject either clarify the usage or else make the appropriate edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C445:C29:218:F3FF:FEF1:1346 ( talk) 08:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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Several of the unit conversions in the article are incorrect, I don't know enough about the convert function to know why or how to fix them. KingSupernova ( talk) 05:26, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Each of the 4 built was flown once. Were any parts/debris recovered ? Was there any intention to recover the vehicle for study or reuse ? - Rod57 ( talk) 12:17, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
What was cost of program , or of each test ? - I've seen $400 M estimated (and compared to ISRO's own scramjet test). - Rod57 ( talk) 12:22, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
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X-51 technology is proposed for use in the High Speed Strike Weapon (HSSW), a Mach 5+ missile which could enter service in the mid-2020s.
Turns out the HSSW program has hardly any Google juice, being mainly mentioned in conjunction with new hypersonic weapon developments as some previous program whose former auspices are being embraced and extended.
I could find no evidence whatsoever of an actual missile under current development under HSSW. And the claim was never properly cited in the first place. — MaxEnt 05:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Boeing has said they want to use the technology for Mach 5 commercial air travel. 174.21.186.46 ( talk) 01:56, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
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He mates,
I just write on the german version of this article. Just to let you know a source I found:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/x-51.htm
work out the facts if useful for yourselves ;-)
Kind Regards, AR79
Sucessfull test firing: [1], also is it the X-51 or the X-51A? - Ravedave 17:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
This page needs to be combined with Waverider Klausner ( talk • contribs) 18:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm not an expert, so I won't make the changes myself, but it seems to me that in the Testing section, the third paragraph ("Four test flights...") logically belongs before the second ("During the flight demonstrations..."). Also, the fifth paragraph ("For the test flight...") restates much of the second. Zhiroc ( talk) 16:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Even though it failed to attain the 300-second duration the Air Force hoped for in its initial test, it still shattered the record for Hypersonic flight (previous record was 12 seconds). In fact, the article title for the pertinent reference directly says it broke a new record, and yet, as relevant as this part is, it's omitted from the article. Here's one more news story that mentions it directly, for what it's worth. KirkCliff2 ( talk) 16:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
How long can it stay in flight, how is it controlled, how does it land —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.184.81.97 ( talk) 21:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Here is a source for the recent (first) test flight, from the Los Angeles Times, with the meta-data ready to insert into the article as a source between reftags: Hypersonic aircraft shatters aviation records, Los Angeles Times, 2010-05-27, accessed 2010-05-27.
I don't have the time to do it myself right now. But others may find the article interesting, and useful for improving the article. Cheers, N2e ( talk) 03:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
project Boeing tax collection scam? Markthemac ( talk) 21:21, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
and who still does real world testing when you can accurately simulate testing and creating adjustments before going into production? Markthemac ( talk) 05:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
What does "it rides its own shockwave" actually mean? Peter Bell ( talk) 22:35, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
"The X-51 completed its first powered flight successfully on 26 May 2010. It reached a speed of Mach 5, an altitude of 70,000 feet (21,000 m) and flew for over 200 seconds; it did not meet the planned 300 second flight duration, however.[1][23] The flight had the longest scramjet burn time of 140 seconds. The X-43 had the previous longest flight burn time of 12 seconds,[23][24][25]"
I'm not sure what the 140 seconds is referring to. 140 seconds isn't mentioned in any of the articles sourced. Nydoc1 ( talk) 12:45, 5 May 2013 (UTC)Nydoc1
This article ( http://www.space.com/21572-air-force-x51a-waverider-pilot.html) stated that: 1) hypersonic means > Mach 5. Current WP article is saying mach 6. 2) The experimental craft sped up to Mach 5.1 at an altitude of 60,000 feet (18,300 m) 3) An artist view of X51 flight is available here: http://www.space.com/17091-hypersonic-waverider-how-the-usaf-x-51a-scramjet-works-video.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.174.103.32 ( talk) 05:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
The English units used throughout the article are given as "[statute] miles" and "mph", but "air [nautical] miles" and "knots" are standard for aviation. This seems not only misleading, but also would lead to inaccurate conversions to international units ("kilometers" and "km/h"). Could an established expert in the subject either clarify the usage or else make the appropriate edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C445:C29:218:F3FF:FEF1:1346 ( talk) 08:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
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Several of the unit conversions in the article are incorrect, I don't know enough about the convert function to know why or how to fix them. KingSupernova ( talk) 05:26, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Each of the 4 built was flown once. Were any parts/debris recovered ? Was there any intention to recover the vehicle for study or reuse ? - Rod57 ( talk) 12:17, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
What was cost of program , or of each test ? - I've seen $400 M estimated (and compared to ISRO's own scramjet test). - Rod57 ( talk) 12:22, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted from lead:
X-51 technology is proposed for use in the High Speed Strike Weapon (HSSW), a Mach 5+ missile which could enter service in the mid-2020s.
Turns out the HSSW program has hardly any Google juice, being mainly mentioned in conjunction with new hypersonic weapon developments as some previous program whose former auspices are being embraced and extended.
I could find no evidence whatsoever of an actual missile under current development under HSSW. And the claim was never properly cited in the first place. — MaxEnt 05:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Boeing has said they want to use the technology for Mach 5 commercial air travel. 174.21.186.46 ( talk) 01:56, 24 November 2021 (UTC)