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Not only is the addition below badly sourced that even say "unsubstantiated rumors"... but it's also a bit overwhelming in size for this GA article NO? We have one source ... Jamaican observer for the first starment..but the Observer seems to be sourced to https://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,108691 and the other source for the first sentence is a Lulu self- published book.....the for the rest we have sources from ethnicelebs.com and dleeasteye.net (that does not mention anything about this) and the world famous 2009Telegraph post..... needless to say all are not considered an authoritative source. Moxy 🍁 14:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Norval Marley was a white Jamaican originally from Sussex, England, whose family claimed Syrian Jewish origins. [1] [2] Regarding Bob Marley’s ancestry, there have been unsubstantiated rumors (bold to show guess tone set for entire entry) that his father’s side was entirely or partially of Syrian Jewish descent. Genealogical research that has been done into his family tree does not provide any evidence to support these claims. [3] Marley’s father, Norval, was born to Albert Thomas “Robert” Marley and Ellen Bloomfield in Jamaica in the early 1880s. Albert had immigrated to Jamaica from England to make a living in the mahogany trade. [4] The 1861 England Census shows Albert living with his family at age 9 in Essex, England. His father is listed a staff sergeant in the army, and all of the children of the family have typical English names. Both of Albert’s parents are listed as being born in Rye, Sussex - essentially the Marley’s ancestral village - where the family can be traced a few more generations back to the mid-18th century. Syrian Jews however didn’t arrive in England until the latter half of the 19th century and settled mainly in Manchester. [5] And almost conclusively, a record for Albert’s father Frederick shows he was baptized on Feb 20th 1820, indicating he was Christian and not Jewish. Thus is it almost certain that the Marleys were of English Christian extraction. As for Bob Marley's paternal grandmother, Ellen Bloomfield, the situation is slightly more unclear. She was born in 1854 to Richard Bloomfield and an unrecorded mother. Once again, the name ‘Bloomfield’ has no connections to the Syrian Jewish community and is rather a well-known English/Jamaican surname. Yet unlike her husband, there are no genealogical documents pertaining to her family background. While it is possible she was born to an English father and a mother from a different ethnic background, as of yet there is no supporting evidence.
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Of further interest, Ziggy's grandfather Norval, is of Syrian-Jewish extraction... This was confirmed by Heather Marley, who is the daughter of Noel Marley, Norval's brother.
Hi Moxy, I had a little trouble understanding what you wrote but after reading it a few times, I think I got the gist. My response is that in terms of bad sources, you site a random internet forum and SELF-PUBLISHED book. No offence, but talk about being poorly sourced. This is a prime example of using non-authoritative sources. Also, if by citing the internet forum you were attempting to highlight a past interview with a woman named Heather Marley that has since been removed from the internet, I feel you are once again erring. Heather Marley (who only by her own claims is a distant relative of Bob Marley), by her own admission only met the actual Marley family once, after which they quickly cut off all communication with her. This is hardly an individual we should be using as legitimate source of information regarding Bob Marley’s actual family (and even if she is a distant relative, I think we have all learned a lesson from Elizabeth Warren’s Native American identity controversy in that “family lore” is not something that can be trusted to relay accurate information over long periods of time). Currently there are no legitimate sources – no respected biographies (of which there are literally hundreds) written nor thoroughly researched articles on the subject published – that confirm or even mention Bob Marley having Syrian Jewish ancestry. …Thus, I think at the very least the information stating Marley having Syrian Jewish ancestry should be removed from his page. While I understand that that no original research is allowed, I think it is obvious that we use our intelligence and discretion when deciding what should be included. Just because a bit of information shows up in one of the corners of the internet, doesn’t mean it should be taken as truth and placed in a Wikipedia page, especially for such an iconic individual. …While I’ll admit the paragraph I published may have been a bit excessive, I was attempting to highlight this aspect of misinformation that seems to have been spread around the internet to an extent that it has been seemingly has been accepted as fact. I could pare down what I wrote, and like I said, at the very minimum I believe any information regarding Syrian Ancestry should be removed. Somville243 ( talk) 16:52, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
This is what the family claimed. The question is not whether it is verified or not, but whether the fact they claim it is verified (it is, as the family has given multiple interviews in local media claiming that). This is just a claim. Avaya1 ( talk) 03:49, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
What on earth are you talking about you silly person? People on this page who are saying that Marley never had Syrian Jewish ancestry or whatever are right! You are the wrong one. I would say please change it, but I know you will not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.133.96.131 ( talk) 11:53, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Technically speaking, he was born in Jamaica when it was a Crown Colony.
At the very least he is a British Jamaican, is he not?
Was very surprised to see him missing on the List of Jamaican British people 198.53.156.34 ( talk) 01:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
I think he was Jamaican aftre all.. Kronik25 ( talk) 10:34, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Marcus Garvey was born before Marley in the Colony, and it cites without "British-Jamaican" on his page. niko3818 ( talk) 02:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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I understand some may argue I am being a little premature without waiting a full day for a response. However, it seems Bob Marley was born in a Crown colony, and he was therefore a Crown subject.
I believe it is only fair to denote that by stating he is a British Jamaican (at the very least!) 198.53.156.34 ( talk) 19:21, 23 December 2019 (UTC) 198.53.156.34 ( talk) 19:21, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
hi, i thank you for your thoughtful response but have some comments:
why is it so much to ask that Bob Marley have a British prefix associated with his citizenship. it is clear he was a british citizen, so saying something like "british-born jamaican" like we have for other people is not unreasonable, especially since marley (by virtue of being born in a crown colony) WAS BRITISH!
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I feel like I should be an editor because I'm am a Jamaican myself and I personally love if I could start editing on my favorite reggae artist of all time, SNOOP LION! Just kidding. But I really do love Bob Marley's work and it kind of inspired me to be an editor so if you just accept my request that would mean the world to me. Anyways, SEE YOU SOON!!!
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Philifizur ( talk) 13:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC) Could I edit this page; Bob Marley, I think he has a genre of blues rock, along with his other genres. It would be more accurate to either put R&B, or blues rock.
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15:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)I was reading the Cannabis subsection under the Personal Views section and noticed an important typo. It says that Marley viewed cannabis as an "aid to medication." That didn't seem right so I looked up the reference source (ref. 111). The book actually says "aid to meditation." May this be corrected? 8.9.86.32 ( talk) 16:28, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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In February 1962, Marley recorded four songs, " Judge Not", "One Cup of Coffee", "Do You Still Love Me?" and still unreleased DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC) "Terror", at Federal Studios for local music producer Leslie Kong. [1] Three of the songs were released on Beverley's with "One Cup of Coffee" being released under the pseudonym Bobby Martell. [2]
In 1963, Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer, Peter Tosh, Junior Braithwaite, Beverley Kelso, and Cherry Smith were called the Teenagers. They later changed the name to the Wailing Rudeboys, then to the Wailing Wailers, at which point they were discovered by record producer Coxsone Dodd, and finally to the Wailers. Their single " Simmer Down" for the Coxsone label became a Jamaican No. 1 in February 1964 selling an estimated 70,000 copies and was credited to 'Bob Marley & The Wailers' DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)/ . [3] The Wailers, now regularly recording for Studio One, worked with Dodd's top studio DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC) musicians such as Ernest Ranglin (arranger "It Hurts To Be Alone"), [4] the keyboardist Jackie Mittoo and saxophonist Roland Alphonso. By 1966, Braithwaite, Kelso, and Smith had left the Wailers, leaving the core trio of Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer, and Peter Tosh. [5]
In 1966, Marley married Rita Anderson, and moved near his mother's residence in Wilmington, Delaware, in the United States for a short time, during which he worked as a DuPont lab assistant and on the assembly line at a Chrysler plant in nearby Newark, under the alias Donald Marley. [6]
Though raised as a Catholic, Marley became interested in Rastafari beliefs in the 1960s, when away from his mother's influence. [7] After returning to Jamaica, Marley formally converted to Rastafari and began to grow dreadlocks.
After a financial disagreement with Dodd, Marley and his new wife Alpharita Anderson, Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer started a new group called 'Bob Marley & The Wailing Wailers' and recorded for their own label 'Wail'n Soul'm on which they released around twenty sides of top-class rocksteady, including the original of 'Stir It Up' and hits such as 'Nice Time' and 'Bend Down Low'. DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC). It was during this time when the group signed as performers and writers to Johnny Nash's and Danny Sims JAD records for all territories except Jamaica. DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Following the collapse of their Wail'n Soul'm set-up the now 'Bob Marley and the Wailers' (Rita was tending the baby Ziggy) teamed up with Lee "Scratch" Perry and his studio band, the Upsetters. Although the alliance lasted less than a year, they recorded what many consider the Wailers' finest work. Marley and Perry split after a dispute regarding Perry licensed their recordings to Trojan in the UK, specifically against the bands instructions, but Bob and Lee worked together, later in the 1970's.[41]
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Not done: Marley died at the age of 36 in 1981. To whom do you refer?
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I don't edit English: wikipedia anymore but we can mention maybe his grandson Jo Mersa Marley and his granddaughter, Mystic Marley, both son and daughter of stephen Marley [1].
Marley also has some notable grandsons, Skip Marley, Jo Mersa Marley, and American football player Nico Marley and granddaughter Mystic Marley, daughter of stephen Marley.
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https://www.bendsource.com/bend/on-the-road-with-dad/Content?oid=9732767
Thank you Neuromancien ( talk) 12:58, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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In the "Early life and career" section, this:
Norval Marley was from Crowborough, East Sussex in England,
Should be changed to:
Norval Marley was Jamaican,
The article repeats the fallacy that Bob's father was born in England, when he was actually born in Jamaica.
-- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_east/3431139.stm#:~:text=%22he%20was%20born%20in%20jamaica%2C%22%20said%20norval's%20great%20nephew%2C%20chris%20marley. HannahInJT ( talk) 14:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
The 1965 album Wailing Wailers did not contain a song called One Love/People Get Ready AFAIK, see full tracklisting here: https://www.discogs.com/The-Wailing-Wailers-The-Wailing-Wailers/master/269277. The 1965 recordings were mainly ska-recordings but the style "reggae" did not exist in these times. AFAIK One Love/People Get Ready was from the Exodus-LP, see /info/en/?search=One_Love/People_Get_Ready and probably did not see release as a 7" before 1984, see https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Marley-The-Wailers-One-Love-People-Get-Ready/master/152241.
Maybe change it "to the hospital" instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.15.100.25 ( talk) 10:44, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
In the Other Tributes section, it contends that "the Australian Aboriginal people continue to burn a sacred flame to honour his memory in Sydney's Victoria Park". But, I couldn only find this published sporadically, and never with an actual reference. I know the park well and have never seen a sacred flame in honour of Bob Marley there unfortunately. I am unfortunately unable to view the reference 'Marley Legend: An Illustrated Life of Bob Marley'. I will definitely look again for the flame next time I am there, but given WP:V, I am unsure if the claim is reliable. If anyone can find a better source, that would help a lot, because most other concurring articles seem to have originated from Henke's claim. Rubyyacht ( talk) 02:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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Surprised that there is no mention of the conspiracy theory related to the CIA being involved in Marley's death. Perhaps just a short mention could be added? 2601:18C:8B82:9E0:21B4:754C:E5B0:7344 ( talk) 03:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Per /info/en/?search=Talk:Bob_Marley/Archive_6#Ancestry_additions, the ancestry claims in the article and the related categories should be removed. As a side note the user who added this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Bob_Marley&type=revision&diff=918122259&oldid=917367015 was banned. Per wikipedia policy I think you should be able to revert edits of banned users 2600:1010:B00C:92EF:9D27:D861:2E5D:99D3 ( talk) 05:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
"Marley rejected his doctors' advice to have his toe amputated (which would have hindered his performing career)"
The part in brackets needs further explanation/clarification. It is hard to understand why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7B08:6A00:29D5:64FB:79EA:70E3 ( talk) 00:34, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
This article makes no mention about Marley's reversion to Christianity and joining of the Ethiopian Christian Church on 4 November 1980. 64.229.24.167 ( talk) 11:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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Add to the article in the association football section of personal life that Marley was a big fan of Celtic FC from Glasgow and would record old firm derby matches when he was on tour 2A00:23C8:1E85:3401:4870:9024:3F17:4FC9 ( talk) 19:09, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
The current image of Bob here, imo, sucks. Per MOS:LEADIMAGE, "but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works," - hardly being able to see Bob's face alone is lackluster and to me, fails this requirement - it also hides majority of his actual appearance. I'd prefer the switch to
as it actually represents him in a frontal view. niko3818 ( talk) 01:17, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Per /info/en/?search=Talk:Bob_Marley/Archive_6#Ancestry_additions, it seems like the claim that Bob Marley's father, Norval Sinclair Marley, was of partial or full Syrian Jewish descent, is unsubstantiated.
This claim keeps going through a cycle of reappearing and being removed. Norval was a white Jamaican and the ancestry records of his family tree supports this claim. Baptismal records show the Marleys were English Christians. The real biography dismisses the claim of Syrian-Jewish ancestry. Including the claim is unencyclopedic, especially considering Norval didn't even consider himself to be Jewish.
Can we remove this claim and the categories it corresponds to? 2600:1010:B06E:BBB7:9532:4755:B1F1:63A3 ( talk) 04:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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I'm piggybacking off the previous section I added /info/en/?search=Talk:Bob_Marley#Request_to_Remove_Patrilineal_Syrian-Jewish_Ancestry_Claim.
The request is for removal of Category:Jamaican people of English-Jewish descent and Category:Jamaican people of Syrian-Jewish descent categories.
I request the claim "whose family claimed to have Syrian Jewish origins as well" to be removed as well. This seems to be originating from a removed article on the internet with a Heather Marley, who claimed to be related to Bob Marley and had met him once. If it can't be removed then it should be mentioned that "biographers have hastened to dismiss these claims, saying that they are unverified" according to https://forward.com/culture/469877/in-the-music-of-bob-marley-a-deep-connection-to-judaism/. 2600:1010:B06E:BBB7:64AF:3E1D:93D2:4A14 ( talk) 05:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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also known as juba 168.245.198.66 ( talk) 19:22, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. I was researching Bob Marley yesterday, and I came across a quote on his page. "The people who are trying to make this world worse aren't taking a day off. How can I?"
In this context, Bob Marley was a victim of an attempted assassination back in 1972, and yet he performed the next day. The problem? The quote has a "citation needed tag". And after doing some more digging, the quotation was added without a citation in January 13 2009.
I attemped did some digging to try to find some sources before January 13, 2009.
Newspapers.com? Nothing.
Archive.org? Zip.
There was a book with a "2005" date called "That's My Teenage Son" that contained the quote. However, it turned out to be a misattributed date as the book was published after that. The book cites the Wikipedia Bob Marley page... on December 30, 2009.
And the craziest thing, this was posted on Wikipedia since January 2009. Over 14 years!
Before I can completely 100% verify that the quotation in question is fake, I need to reach out to you. There could be an obscure Bob Marley book that neither I nor Jack has found. The fact that Jack wasn't helpful comes closer the Okkams razor, but I don't feel comfortable removing the quotation until we completely agree that it's fake.
Should we keep the quote under discussion in the article?
As shown, non-awful sources exists. However, I looked up a few searchable Marley-biographies on gbooks [6] [7] [8] [9], and none of these seem to mention the quote. Per this, and the possible drama-origin, I say remove on WP:DUE grounds. I'd love to see something in a decent biography or a contemporary interview. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Marley Biographyby daughter Cedella Marley states Marley was born Nesta Robert Marley, 2/6/45. 2606:A800:CB88:5600:9014:9800:B499:CCC2 ( talk) 16:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Under "Illness and death", I feel uncomfortable with the following part: "Marley rejected his doctors' advice to have his toe amputated (which would have hindered his performing career), citing his religious beliefs, [...]"
I can't find anything that supports the claim that a toe amputation would've hindered his performing career, nor can I understand why it would. I did find rumours that he didn't want an amputation because it'd hinder him in playing soccer, but he's not a professional soccer player. Should we remove what is in brackets? Sketch~nlwiki ( talk) 05:48, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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The Gibson Les Paul guitar Bob Marley was buried with was a natural wood (brown) finish instead of red. 213.37.205.116 ( talk) 09:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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Not only is the addition below badly sourced that even say "unsubstantiated rumors"... but it's also a bit overwhelming in size for this GA article NO? We have one source ... Jamaican observer for the first starment..but the Observer seems to be sourced to https://snwmf.com/phorum/read.php?1,108691 and the other source for the first sentence is a Lulu self- published book.....the for the rest we have sources from ethnicelebs.com and dleeasteye.net (that does not mention anything about this) and the world famous 2009Telegraph post..... needless to say all are not considered an authoritative source. Moxy 🍁 14:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Norval Marley was a white Jamaican originally from Sussex, England, whose family claimed Syrian Jewish origins. [1] [2] Regarding Bob Marley’s ancestry, there have been unsubstantiated rumors (bold to show guess tone set for entire entry) that his father’s side was entirely or partially of Syrian Jewish descent. Genealogical research that has been done into his family tree does not provide any evidence to support these claims. [3] Marley’s father, Norval, was born to Albert Thomas “Robert” Marley and Ellen Bloomfield in Jamaica in the early 1880s. Albert had immigrated to Jamaica from England to make a living in the mahogany trade. [4] The 1861 England Census shows Albert living with his family at age 9 in Essex, England. His father is listed a staff sergeant in the army, and all of the children of the family have typical English names. Both of Albert’s parents are listed as being born in Rye, Sussex - essentially the Marley’s ancestral village - where the family can be traced a few more generations back to the mid-18th century. Syrian Jews however didn’t arrive in England until the latter half of the 19th century and settled mainly in Manchester. [5] And almost conclusively, a record for Albert’s father Frederick shows he was baptized on Feb 20th 1820, indicating he was Christian and not Jewish. Thus is it almost certain that the Marleys were of English Christian extraction. As for Bob Marley's paternal grandmother, Ellen Bloomfield, the situation is slightly more unclear. She was born in 1854 to Richard Bloomfield and an unrecorded mother. Once again, the name ‘Bloomfield’ has no connections to the Syrian Jewish community and is rather a well-known English/Jamaican surname. Yet unlike her husband, there are no genealogical documents pertaining to her family background. While it is possible she was born to an English father and a mother from a different ethnic background, as of yet there is no supporting evidence.
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Of further interest, Ziggy's grandfather Norval, is of Syrian-Jewish extraction... This was confirmed by Heather Marley, who is the daughter of Noel Marley, Norval's brother.
Hi Moxy, I had a little trouble understanding what you wrote but after reading it a few times, I think I got the gist. My response is that in terms of bad sources, you site a random internet forum and SELF-PUBLISHED book. No offence, but talk about being poorly sourced. This is a prime example of using non-authoritative sources. Also, if by citing the internet forum you were attempting to highlight a past interview with a woman named Heather Marley that has since been removed from the internet, I feel you are once again erring. Heather Marley (who only by her own claims is a distant relative of Bob Marley), by her own admission only met the actual Marley family once, after which they quickly cut off all communication with her. This is hardly an individual we should be using as legitimate source of information regarding Bob Marley’s actual family (and even if she is a distant relative, I think we have all learned a lesson from Elizabeth Warren’s Native American identity controversy in that “family lore” is not something that can be trusted to relay accurate information over long periods of time). Currently there are no legitimate sources – no respected biographies (of which there are literally hundreds) written nor thoroughly researched articles on the subject published – that confirm or even mention Bob Marley having Syrian Jewish ancestry. …Thus, I think at the very least the information stating Marley having Syrian Jewish ancestry should be removed from his page. While I understand that that no original research is allowed, I think it is obvious that we use our intelligence and discretion when deciding what should be included. Just because a bit of information shows up in one of the corners of the internet, doesn’t mean it should be taken as truth and placed in a Wikipedia page, especially for such an iconic individual. …While I’ll admit the paragraph I published may have been a bit excessive, I was attempting to highlight this aspect of misinformation that seems to have been spread around the internet to an extent that it has been seemingly has been accepted as fact. I could pare down what I wrote, and like I said, at the very minimum I believe any information regarding Syrian Ancestry should be removed. Somville243 ( talk) 16:52, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
This is what the family claimed. The question is not whether it is verified or not, but whether the fact they claim it is verified (it is, as the family has given multiple interviews in local media claiming that). This is just a claim. Avaya1 ( talk) 03:49, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
What on earth are you talking about you silly person? People on this page who are saying that Marley never had Syrian Jewish ancestry or whatever are right! You are the wrong one. I would say please change it, but I know you will not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.133.96.131 ( talk) 11:53, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Technically speaking, he was born in Jamaica when it was a Crown Colony.
At the very least he is a British Jamaican, is he not?
Was very surprised to see him missing on the List of Jamaican British people 198.53.156.34 ( talk) 01:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
I think he was Jamaican aftre all.. Kronik25 ( talk) 10:34, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Marcus Garvey was born before Marley in the Colony, and it cites without "British-Jamaican" on his page. niko3818 ( talk) 02:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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I understand some may argue I am being a little premature without waiting a full day for a response. However, it seems Bob Marley was born in a Crown colony, and he was therefore a Crown subject.
I believe it is only fair to denote that by stating he is a British Jamaican (at the very least!) 198.53.156.34 ( talk) 19:21, 23 December 2019 (UTC) 198.53.156.34 ( talk) 19:21, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
hi, i thank you for your thoughtful response but have some comments:
why is it so much to ask that Bob Marley have a British prefix associated with his citizenship. it is clear he was a british citizen, so saying something like "british-born jamaican" like we have for other people is not unreasonable, especially since marley (by virtue of being born in a crown colony) WAS BRITISH!
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I feel like I should be an editor because I'm am a Jamaican myself and I personally love if I could start editing on my favorite reggae artist of all time, SNOOP LION! Just kidding. But I really do love Bob Marley's work and it kind of inspired me to be an editor so if you just accept my request that would mean the world to me. Anyways, SEE YOU SOON!!!
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Philifizur ( talk) 13:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC) Could I edit this page; Bob Marley, I think he has a genre of blues rock, along with his other genres. It would be more accurate to either put R&B, or blues rock.
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Done - I've made that change, assuming
in good faith that the above is correct. I don't have the book - some confirmation from other editors who do have access to the book would be helpful.
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In February 1962, Marley recorded four songs, " Judge Not", "One Cup of Coffee", "Do You Still Love Me?" and still unreleased DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC) "Terror", at Federal Studios for local music producer Leslie Kong. [1] Three of the songs were released on Beverley's with "One Cup of Coffee" being released under the pseudonym Bobby Martell. [2]
In 1963, Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer, Peter Tosh, Junior Braithwaite, Beverley Kelso, and Cherry Smith were called the Teenagers. They later changed the name to the Wailing Rudeboys, then to the Wailing Wailers, at which point they were discovered by record producer Coxsone Dodd, and finally to the Wailers. Their single " Simmer Down" for the Coxsone label became a Jamaican No. 1 in February 1964 selling an estimated 70,000 copies and was credited to 'Bob Marley & The Wailers' DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)/ . [3] The Wailers, now regularly recording for Studio One, worked with Dodd's top studio DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC) musicians such as Ernest Ranglin (arranger "It Hurts To Be Alone"), [4] the keyboardist Jackie Mittoo and saxophonist Roland Alphonso. By 1966, Braithwaite, Kelso, and Smith had left the Wailers, leaving the core trio of Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer, and Peter Tosh. [5]
In 1966, Marley married Rita Anderson, and moved near his mother's residence in Wilmington, Delaware, in the United States for a short time, during which he worked as a DuPont lab assistant and on the assembly line at a Chrysler plant in nearby Newark, under the alias Donald Marley. [6]
Though raised as a Catholic, Marley became interested in Rastafari beliefs in the 1960s, when away from his mother's influence. [7] After returning to Jamaica, Marley formally converted to Rastafari and began to grow dreadlocks.
After a financial disagreement with Dodd, Marley and his new wife Alpharita Anderson, Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer started a new group called 'Bob Marley & The Wailing Wailers' and recorded for their own label 'Wail'n Soul'm on which they released around twenty sides of top-class rocksteady, including the original of 'Stir It Up' and hits such as 'Nice Time' and 'Bend Down Low'. DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC). It was during this time when the group signed as performers and writers to Johnny Nash's and Danny Sims JAD records for all territories except Jamaica. DjKuyah ( talk) 15:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Following the collapse of their Wail'n Soul'm set-up the now 'Bob Marley and the Wailers' (Rita was tending the baby Ziggy) teamed up with Lee "Scratch" Perry and his studio band, the Upsetters. Although the alliance lasted less than a year, they recorded what many consider the Wailers' finest work. Marley and Perry split after a dispute regarding Perry licensed their recordings to Trojan in the UK, specifically against the bands instructions, but Bob and Lee worked together, later in the 1970's.[41]
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81.105.210.171 ( talk) 21:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Not done: Marley died at the age of 36 in 1981. To whom do you refer?
P.I. Ellsworth
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I don't edit English: wikipedia anymore but we can mention maybe his grandson Jo Mersa Marley and his granddaughter, Mystic Marley, both son and daughter of stephen Marley [1].
Marley also has some notable grandsons, Skip Marley, Jo Mersa Marley, and American football player Nico Marley and granddaughter Mystic Marley, daughter of stephen Marley.
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https://www.bendsource.com/bend/on-the-road-with-dad/Content?oid=9732767
Thank you Neuromancien ( talk) 12:58, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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In the "Early life and career" section, this:
Norval Marley was from Crowborough, East Sussex in England,
Should be changed to:
Norval Marley was Jamaican,
The article repeats the fallacy that Bob's father was born in England, when he was actually born in Jamaica.
-- http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_east/3431139.stm#:~:text=%22he%20was%20born%20in%20jamaica%2C%22%20said%20norval's%20great%20nephew%2C%20chris%20marley. HannahInJT ( talk) 14:26, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
The 1965 album Wailing Wailers did not contain a song called One Love/People Get Ready AFAIK, see full tracklisting here: https://www.discogs.com/The-Wailing-Wailers-The-Wailing-Wailers/master/269277. The 1965 recordings were mainly ska-recordings but the style "reggae" did not exist in these times. AFAIK One Love/People Get Ready was from the Exodus-LP, see /info/en/?search=One_Love/People_Get_Ready and probably did not see release as a 7" before 1984, see https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Marley-The-Wailers-One-Love-People-Get-Ready/master/152241.
Maybe change it "to the hospital" instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.15.100.25 ( talk) 10:44, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
In the Other Tributes section, it contends that "the Australian Aboriginal people continue to burn a sacred flame to honour his memory in Sydney's Victoria Park". But, I couldn only find this published sporadically, and never with an actual reference. I know the park well and have never seen a sacred flame in honour of Bob Marley there unfortunately. I am unfortunately unable to view the reference 'Marley Legend: An Illustrated Life of Bob Marley'. I will definitely look again for the flame next time I am there, but given WP:V, I am unsure if the claim is reliable. If anyone can find a better source, that would help a lot, because most other concurring articles seem to have originated from Henke's claim. Rubyyacht ( talk) 02:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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Surprised that there is no mention of the conspiracy theory related to the CIA being involved in Marley's death. Perhaps just a short mention could be added? 2601:18C:8B82:9E0:21B4:754C:E5B0:7344 ( talk) 03:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Per /info/en/?search=Talk:Bob_Marley/Archive_6#Ancestry_additions, the ancestry claims in the article and the related categories should be removed. As a side note the user who added this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Bob_Marley&type=revision&diff=918122259&oldid=917367015 was banned. Per wikipedia policy I think you should be able to revert edits of banned users 2600:1010:B00C:92EF:9D27:D861:2E5D:99D3 ( talk) 05:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
"Marley rejected his doctors' advice to have his toe amputated (which would have hindered his performing career)"
The part in brackets needs further explanation/clarification. It is hard to understand why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7B08:6A00:29D5:64FB:79EA:70E3 ( talk) 00:34, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
This article makes no mention about Marley's reversion to Christianity and joining of the Ethiopian Christian Church on 4 November 1980. 64.229.24.167 ( talk) 11:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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Add to the article in the association football section of personal life that Marley was a big fan of Celtic FC from Glasgow and would record old firm derby matches when he was on tour 2A00:23C8:1E85:3401:4870:9024:3F17:4FC9 ( talk) 19:09, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
The current image of Bob here, imo, sucks. Per MOS:LEADIMAGE, "but also be the type of image used for similar purposes in high-quality reference works," - hardly being able to see Bob's face alone is lackluster and to me, fails this requirement - it also hides majority of his actual appearance. I'd prefer the switch to
as it actually represents him in a frontal view. niko3818 ( talk) 01:17, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Per /info/en/?search=Talk:Bob_Marley/Archive_6#Ancestry_additions, it seems like the claim that Bob Marley's father, Norval Sinclair Marley, was of partial or full Syrian Jewish descent, is unsubstantiated.
This claim keeps going through a cycle of reappearing and being removed. Norval was a white Jamaican and the ancestry records of his family tree supports this claim. Baptismal records show the Marleys were English Christians. The real biography dismisses the claim of Syrian-Jewish ancestry. Including the claim is unencyclopedic, especially considering Norval didn't even consider himself to be Jewish.
Can we remove this claim and the categories it corresponds to? 2600:1010:B06E:BBB7:9532:4755:B1F1:63A3 ( talk) 04:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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I'm piggybacking off the previous section I added /info/en/?search=Talk:Bob_Marley#Request_to_Remove_Patrilineal_Syrian-Jewish_Ancestry_Claim.
The request is for removal of Category:Jamaican people of English-Jewish descent and Category:Jamaican people of Syrian-Jewish descent categories.
I request the claim "whose family claimed to have Syrian Jewish origins as well" to be removed as well. This seems to be originating from a removed article on the internet with a Heather Marley, who claimed to be related to Bob Marley and had met him once. If it can't be removed then it should be mentioned that "biographers have hastened to dismiss these claims, saying that they are unverified" according to https://forward.com/culture/469877/in-the-music-of-bob-marley-a-deep-connection-to-judaism/. 2600:1010:B06E:BBB7:64AF:3E1D:93D2:4A14 ( talk) 05:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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also known as juba 168.245.198.66 ( talk) 19:22, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. I was researching Bob Marley yesterday, and I came across a quote on his page. "The people who are trying to make this world worse aren't taking a day off. How can I?"
In this context, Bob Marley was a victim of an attempted assassination back in 1972, and yet he performed the next day. The problem? The quote has a "citation needed tag". And after doing some more digging, the quotation was added without a citation in January 13 2009.
I attemped did some digging to try to find some sources before January 13, 2009.
Newspapers.com? Nothing.
Archive.org? Zip.
There was a book with a "2005" date called "That's My Teenage Son" that contained the quote. However, it turned out to be a misattributed date as the book was published after that. The book cites the Wikipedia Bob Marley page... on December 30, 2009.
And the craziest thing, this was posted on Wikipedia since January 2009. Over 14 years!
Before I can completely 100% verify that the quotation in question is fake, I need to reach out to you. There could be an obscure Bob Marley book that neither I nor Jack has found. The fact that Jack wasn't helpful comes closer the Okkams razor, but I don't feel comfortable removing the quotation until we completely agree that it's fake.
Should we keep the quote under discussion in the article?
As shown, non-awful sources exists. However, I looked up a few searchable Marley-biographies on gbooks [6] [7] [8] [9], and none of these seem to mention the quote. Per this, and the possible drama-origin, I say remove on WP:DUE grounds. I'd love to see something in a decent biography or a contemporary interview. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 15:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Marley Biographyby daughter Cedella Marley states Marley was born Nesta Robert Marley, 2/6/45. 2606:A800:CB88:5600:9014:9800:B499:CCC2 ( talk) 16:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Under "Illness and death", I feel uncomfortable with the following part: "Marley rejected his doctors' advice to have his toe amputated (which would have hindered his performing career), citing his religious beliefs, [...]"
I can't find anything that supports the claim that a toe amputation would've hindered his performing career, nor can I understand why it would. I did find rumours that he didn't want an amputation because it'd hinder him in playing soccer, but he's not a professional soccer player. Should we remove what is in brackets? Sketch~nlwiki ( talk) 05:48, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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The Gibson Les Paul guitar Bob Marley was buried with was a natural wood (brown) finish instead of red. 213.37.205.116 ( talk) 09:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)