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Had any of you heard that Bart Gunn went easy on Holly in the Brawl For All, and Holly went nuts at him afterwards?:OD( Halbared 09:34, 16 April 2006 (UTC))
No but it soudns believeable. Hollywoodd 01:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kperfekt722 ( talk • contribs)
There should be a reference to the fact that Lesnar broke his neck because he was sandbagging him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.17.33.116 ( talk) 21:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Moved from the article:
I don't see anything in the references/external links that really supports this, unless you want to look at some forum posts by random fans. Also, please note that its much better to say "This person" or "This organization" believes, instead of saying "Some" believe -- its important to attribute points of view to their sources. I'd also question whether or not any of this belongs in a section on his personal life, since it appears to all be wrestling related. .:. Jareth.:. babelfish 13:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I do think that some mention of the incident with Bob Holly and Matt Cappotelli should be mentioned as Bob Holly left the man beaten and bloodied on national television. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.49.157.11 ( talk) 19:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so basically the word is that Holly is in rehab for substance addiction. Problem is...on the WWE list of employees article, it says in rehab without any source. Here, whenever somebody tries to edit it in, also without a source, it keeps getting removed. Shouldn't it also be removed from the roster page for not being sourced? Or are there some different kinda policy here? -- Kaizer13 ( talk) 05:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
On the recently released shoot interview with RFVideo, Bob claimed that he does not run a wrestling school, nor is he married anymore. Any way this can be used as a reliable source? The shoot interview, that is. -- 81.191.27.34 ( talk) 19:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
According to PWMania. WWE have showed some interested in bringing back former superstar Bob Hardcore Holly and former DX member Badass Billy Gunn as just a tag team. They want former superstars they can get over and bill as tough old veterans aganist some of the new younger talent. Both are real-life good friends. As apparently Sopp pitched the idea to John Laurinaitis.
I read it at lordsofpain. Hold any truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.48.114.20 ( talk) 21:22, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
after watching his YouShoot interview where he answers alot of the things that have been said about him... like the Rene Dupree incident and other things like the Brock Lesnar powerbomb and that sort of stuff... he explains all of it in detail and how the powerbomb was in fact botched by them both and Lesnar rang him up at hospital to see if he's ok and they were actually friends and it was a mistake... after watching the interview alot of the stuff written on this page is only conjecture and therefore is not proven fact so should it be written that he "broke kayfabe" and all this stuff if it isn't proven? just a thought people should check the interview out... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.183.244 ( talk) 19:25, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Bob Holly was not the Intercontinental Champion. WWE's website clearly lists that due to the controversial match between Jarrett and Holly, Jarrett was stripped of the title. How could he have been stripped of the championship if Holly had won it in the match? It's pretty straightforward: Jarrett didn't lost the title to Holly. He lost the title because of the controversy, but it didn't go to Holly. Instead it went to no one, and they had another match to determine the champion.
Moreoever, Wikipedia's own page for the List of WWE Intercontinental Champions doesn't have Holly as being champion, not even as an unofficial/unrecognised by WWE reign like in the case of some of Moolah's Women's Champion reigns or some of the early United States Championship reigns. Now you can't have one page say he held the title, and one page say he didn't. That ruins the credability of both. Also, on the talk page for the list of Intercontinental Champions, TJ Spyke brings up the point, and prevails, about not allowing Holly's "reign" to be included due to the fact that "WWE doesn't consider him a former champ." 76.29.170.69 ( talk) 10:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Blah, blah, blah
"Bitching", you say? Now, there was no need for a practical demonstration there. -- 84.202.160.33 ( talk) 19:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
On his RF Shoot interview (and possibly his new book), he talks about NASCAR in the sense that he actually drove in the sport. Are there any sources which support this? The article currently mentions fleetingly that his NASCAR driver gimmick was just that—a gimmick, with no mention of an actual motor racing career. Needs the real story. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 21:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. While there are cases to be made for either name, it appears his WP:STAGENAME is the WP:COMMONNAME. -- BDD ( talk) 18:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Bob Holly → Hardcore Holly – Howard was known professionally as "Hardcore Holly", not "Bob Holly". To the best of my knowledge, he has never performed as "Bob Holly". Having the article at Bob Holly is a hybrid of his real name and his professional name, which is potentially misleading and confusing. This will allow far more direct linking. McPhail ( talk) 15:56, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
According to Slam! Sports (typically a reliable source), Holly used this ring name early in his career. Last week, however, Holly gave an interview with Solomonster Sounds Off, in which he said this is patently untrue ( http://solomonster.podbean.com/mf/web/bgtquu/solomonster455-HOLLY.mp3 at the 46–47 minute mark). I have removed this content from the article. 185.54.163.177 ( talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
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This 2009 addition has three citation needed tags as well as multiple unsourced statements. The article may also need updates to reflect new information. Spinixster (chat!) 06:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
[1] 197.87.135.139 ( talk) 09:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17ebpo_al-snow-vs-hardcore-holly-bob-holly-hardcore-match-st-valentine-s-day-massacre-wwf_sport Listen to what Michael Cole says.
Nobody claims that WWE recognizes Holly as a former Intercontinental Champion NOW. But they did recognize him as a former Intercontinental Champion in the past. That's why it's an Unrecognized Reign, m'kay?
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Had any of you heard that Bart Gunn went easy on Holly in the Brawl For All, and Holly went nuts at him afterwards?:OD( Halbared 09:34, 16 April 2006 (UTC))
No but it soudns believeable. Hollywoodd 01:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kperfekt722 ( talk • contribs)
There should be a reference to the fact that Lesnar broke his neck because he was sandbagging him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.17.33.116 ( talk) 21:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Moved from the article:
I don't see anything in the references/external links that really supports this, unless you want to look at some forum posts by random fans. Also, please note that its much better to say "This person" or "This organization" believes, instead of saying "Some" believe -- its important to attribute points of view to their sources. I'd also question whether or not any of this belongs in a section on his personal life, since it appears to all be wrestling related. .:. Jareth.:. babelfish 13:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I do think that some mention of the incident with Bob Holly and Matt Cappotelli should be mentioned as Bob Holly left the man beaten and bloodied on national television. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.49.157.11 ( talk) 19:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so basically the word is that Holly is in rehab for substance addiction. Problem is...on the WWE list of employees article, it says in rehab without any source. Here, whenever somebody tries to edit it in, also without a source, it keeps getting removed. Shouldn't it also be removed from the roster page for not being sourced? Or are there some different kinda policy here? -- Kaizer13 ( talk) 05:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
On the recently released shoot interview with RFVideo, Bob claimed that he does not run a wrestling school, nor is he married anymore. Any way this can be used as a reliable source? The shoot interview, that is. -- 81.191.27.34 ( talk) 19:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
According to PWMania. WWE have showed some interested in bringing back former superstar Bob Hardcore Holly and former DX member Badass Billy Gunn as just a tag team. They want former superstars they can get over and bill as tough old veterans aganist some of the new younger talent. Both are real-life good friends. As apparently Sopp pitched the idea to John Laurinaitis.
I read it at lordsofpain. Hold any truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.48.114.20 ( talk) 21:22, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
after watching his YouShoot interview where he answers alot of the things that have been said about him... like the Rene Dupree incident and other things like the Brock Lesnar powerbomb and that sort of stuff... he explains all of it in detail and how the powerbomb was in fact botched by them both and Lesnar rang him up at hospital to see if he's ok and they were actually friends and it was a mistake... after watching the interview alot of the stuff written on this page is only conjecture and therefore is not proven fact so should it be written that he "broke kayfabe" and all this stuff if it isn't proven? just a thought people should check the interview out... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.183.244 ( talk) 19:25, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Bob Holly was not the Intercontinental Champion. WWE's website clearly lists that due to the controversial match between Jarrett and Holly, Jarrett was stripped of the title. How could he have been stripped of the championship if Holly had won it in the match? It's pretty straightforward: Jarrett didn't lost the title to Holly. He lost the title because of the controversy, but it didn't go to Holly. Instead it went to no one, and they had another match to determine the champion.
Moreoever, Wikipedia's own page for the List of WWE Intercontinental Champions doesn't have Holly as being champion, not even as an unofficial/unrecognised by WWE reign like in the case of some of Moolah's Women's Champion reigns or some of the early United States Championship reigns. Now you can't have one page say he held the title, and one page say he didn't. That ruins the credability of both. Also, on the talk page for the list of Intercontinental Champions, TJ Spyke brings up the point, and prevails, about not allowing Holly's "reign" to be included due to the fact that "WWE doesn't consider him a former champ." 76.29.170.69 ( talk) 10:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Blah, blah, blah
"Bitching", you say? Now, there was no need for a practical demonstration there. -- 84.202.160.33 ( talk) 19:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
On his RF Shoot interview (and possibly his new book), he talks about NASCAR in the sense that he actually drove in the sport. Are there any sources which support this? The article currently mentions fleetingly that his NASCAR driver gimmick was just that—a gimmick, with no mention of an actual motor racing career. Needs the real story. Mac Dreamstate ( talk) 21:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved. While there are cases to be made for either name, it appears his WP:STAGENAME is the WP:COMMONNAME. -- BDD ( talk) 18:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Bob Holly → Hardcore Holly – Howard was known professionally as "Hardcore Holly", not "Bob Holly". To the best of my knowledge, he has never performed as "Bob Holly". Having the article at Bob Holly is a hybrid of his real name and his professional name, which is potentially misleading and confusing. This will allow far more direct linking. McPhail ( talk) 15:56, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
According to Slam! Sports (typically a reliable source), Holly used this ring name early in his career. Last week, however, Holly gave an interview with Solomonster Sounds Off, in which he said this is patently untrue ( http://solomonster.podbean.com/mf/web/bgtquu/solomonster455-HOLLY.mp3 at the 46–47 minute mark). I have removed this content from the article. 185.54.163.177 ( talk) 03:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
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This 2009 addition has three citation needed tags as well as multiple unsourced statements. The article may also need updates to reflect new information. Spinixster (chat!) 06:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
[1] 197.87.135.139 ( talk) 09:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17ebpo_al-snow-vs-hardcore-holly-bob-holly-hardcore-match-st-valentine-s-day-massacre-wwf_sport Listen to what Michael Cole says.
Nobody claims that WWE recognizes Holly as a former Intercontinental Champion NOW. But they did recognize him as a former Intercontinental Champion in the past. That's why it's an Unrecognized Reign, m'kay?