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Why is it called a Bronx cheer?
Isn't it also known as a bilabial fricative? Or is that reasonable sounding nonsense made up by George Carlin? Cigarette 15:25, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Right, voiceless bilabial fricative is more of a 'soft Fff'
I am positive that a Bronx cheer refers to a boo, especially at sporting events; I don't know if it refers to both. Can someone clear this up? zellin 05:30, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
I had always heard that a "Bronx Cheer" was the razzing reception that New Yorkers gave the visiting team at Yankee Stadium (in the Bronx). I have seen it on whoopie cushions, and on a toy that I had as a kid in NY during the 60's (a small, flat rubber tube that had a piece of plastic that you could blow through, making the titular sound).
Does a raspberry have to involve the tongue? Can't an ejective unvoiced bilabial trill be described as a "raspberry"? 66.92.237.111 02:32, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
In my experience, people have called it "blowing a raspberry" both in instances with the tongue and with the lips only. The article already describes both.
I am not a linguist, but from the description, a bilabial trill sounds like a raspberry to me. So I added a sentence about it to the article. We could use some sort of official source for this if anyone can find one. And more details about the use of "raspberries" in various cultures. Tea and crumpets ( talk) 06:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I have seen it spelled out in a once popular comic strip, "Bloom County", later renamed "Outland". The character that was popular for doing this was "Bill the Cat." It was spelled out "Thhpptpt!"
I had this problem when asking a few friends how they would spell a rasberry sound....all to no avail so i decided on "Ppwwp!". 217.44.64.63 ( talk) 01:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)P@x
Everyone I have asked and seen thus far "blows a raspberry" against their bottom lip, except for my wife, her sister and her father. They blow raspberries using their top lip. Does anyone else use their top lip? Skyler 06:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
A zerbert is a subset of raspberries. They are directed against someone else's skin, usually their stomach. I think they deserve their own section in this article. 75.73.179.186 ( talk) 02:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Best. Video. Ever. BlinkerBoy ( talk) 03:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Totally harmless, mind you. Although I don't have to put everything I know into an article, this very sound is also used by kids to imitate the noise of a car, airplane propeller or ship's engine. Just thought I'd mention it as well. -andy 217.50.49.129 ( talk) 23:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
The Motion Picture Production Code of the Hays era explicitly banned the "Bronx cheer" sound from American motion pictures. This fact might be worth mentioning in the article. 84.226.153.54 ( talk) 13:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
At its current version, the article contains the sentence "It is also called this because raspberries make this noise". I would very much like to remove this piece of nonsense, but maybe I'm missing something and they really do make this noise? Can anyone provide a source? 188.169.229.30 ( talk) 22:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
The explanation regarding rhyming slang is highly questionable. The origin is clearly from the word "rasp". There are a lot of more obvious words associated with "tart" (strawberry, custard, etc). It looks like original research to me. Awernham ( talk) 11:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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The band Knorkator makes extensive use of the sound in their track "Buchstabe" (a.k.a. "The Letter), where the lyric narrative is a proposal to add a new letter to the (German) alphabet (or, according to some, repurpose the es-tset) specifically for this sound. The resultant video is replete with demonstrations.
There certainly is a version of the "razz" that's more naturalistically fart-like (higher pitched, too) & doesn't necessarily employ the tongue. I remember this in a W.C. Fields routine where he's (literally) peddling raspberry tarts, being followed around by a little kid making the (in)appropriate noise every time Fields calls out his ware.
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The first sentence right after the definition says “It is also used in childhood phonemic play.” But what is “childhood phonemic play”? The sentence contains a link, but that only goes to our very general article Phoneme, which doesn't even contain the words “child” or “play”. I presume all that was meant was that that's a sound children sometimes make for fun, and that whoever added that wanted to make it sound more learned. But that goes without saying, almost following from the definition. Therefore I will remove that sentence. ◅ Sebastian 04:25, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Why is it called a Bronx cheer?
Isn't it also known as a bilabial fricative? Or is that reasonable sounding nonsense made up by George Carlin? Cigarette 15:25, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Right, voiceless bilabial fricative is more of a 'soft Fff'
I am positive that a Bronx cheer refers to a boo, especially at sporting events; I don't know if it refers to both. Can someone clear this up? zellin 05:30, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
I had always heard that a "Bronx Cheer" was the razzing reception that New Yorkers gave the visiting team at Yankee Stadium (in the Bronx). I have seen it on whoopie cushions, and on a toy that I had as a kid in NY during the 60's (a small, flat rubber tube that had a piece of plastic that you could blow through, making the titular sound).
Does a raspberry have to involve the tongue? Can't an ejective unvoiced bilabial trill be described as a "raspberry"? 66.92.237.111 02:32, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
In my experience, people have called it "blowing a raspberry" both in instances with the tongue and with the lips only. The article already describes both.
I am not a linguist, but from the description, a bilabial trill sounds like a raspberry to me. So I added a sentence about it to the article. We could use some sort of official source for this if anyone can find one. And more details about the use of "raspberries" in various cultures. Tea and crumpets ( talk) 06:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I have seen it spelled out in a once popular comic strip, "Bloom County", later renamed "Outland". The character that was popular for doing this was "Bill the Cat." It was spelled out "Thhpptpt!"
I had this problem when asking a few friends how they would spell a rasberry sound....all to no avail so i decided on "Ppwwp!". 217.44.64.63 ( talk) 01:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)P@x
Everyone I have asked and seen thus far "blows a raspberry" against their bottom lip, except for my wife, her sister and her father. They blow raspberries using their top lip. Does anyone else use their top lip? Skyler 06:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
A zerbert is a subset of raspberries. They are directed against someone else's skin, usually their stomach. I think they deserve their own section in this article. 75.73.179.186 ( talk) 02:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Best. Video. Ever. BlinkerBoy ( talk) 03:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Totally harmless, mind you. Although I don't have to put everything I know into an article, this very sound is also used by kids to imitate the noise of a car, airplane propeller or ship's engine. Just thought I'd mention it as well. -andy 217.50.49.129 ( talk) 23:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
The Motion Picture Production Code of the Hays era explicitly banned the "Bronx cheer" sound from American motion pictures. This fact might be worth mentioning in the article. 84.226.153.54 ( talk) 13:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
At its current version, the article contains the sentence "It is also called this because raspberries make this noise". I would very much like to remove this piece of nonsense, but maybe I'm missing something and they really do make this noise? Can anyone provide a source? 188.169.229.30 ( talk) 22:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
The explanation regarding rhyming slang is highly questionable. The origin is clearly from the word "rasp". There are a lot of more obvious words associated with "tart" (strawberry, custard, etc). It looks like original research to me. Awernham ( talk) 11:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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The band Knorkator makes extensive use of the sound in their track "Buchstabe" (a.k.a. "The Letter), where the lyric narrative is a proposal to add a new letter to the (German) alphabet (or, according to some, repurpose the es-tset) specifically for this sound. The resultant video is replete with demonstrations.
There certainly is a version of the "razz" that's more naturalistically fart-like (higher pitched, too) & doesn't necessarily employ the tongue. I remember this in a W.C. Fields routine where he's (literally) peddling raspberry tarts, being followed around by a little kid making the (in)appropriate noise every time Fields calls out his ware.
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05:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Flatulence Sound. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Hog Farm ( talk) 04:08, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
The first sentence right after the definition says “It is also used in childhood phonemic play.” But what is “childhood phonemic play”? The sentence contains a link, but that only goes to our very general article Phoneme, which doesn't even contain the words “child” or “play”. I presume all that was meant was that that's a sound children sometimes make for fun, and that whoever added that wanted to make it sound more learned. But that goes without saying, almost following from the definition. Therefore I will remove that sentence. ◅ Sebastian 04:25, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Briefly semi-protected to stop the disruption over the lead sentence and links. To the relevant IP: there's no problem with making changes to an article, but if others disagree with those changes they need to be discussed on this talkpage rather than edit-warred directly into the article.
Apologies to any other IP editors who had other changes to make to the article - while the article is semi-protected please consider using the edit-request function instead. -- Euryalus ( talk) 08:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)