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"A large[51] needle (16 to 17 gauge) is used to minimize shearing forces that may physically damage red blood cells as they flow through the needle.[52] " This is commonly believed by phlebotomist, but not empirically supported. Many people call it an old wives tale. Smaller gauge needles do not increase hemolysis except when vacuum containers are used and they are only used in blood donation to draw samples for testing. Large bore needles are used because they have higher flow rates and allow the donation to be completed in less time, and the higher flow rate also prevents clotting. I just need better sources to fully support this. SSyntaxin ( talk) 16:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
The "needs globalization" tag was added with no discussion, just a comment that the page is "US-centric." That's hardly a prima facie case, especially since at a glance I see Australia popping up. It would certainly strenghten the argument if the globalization-happy person who made the change had cited some detail where other countries do substantially different things from the article. ( Hyperionred 18:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC))
I have added a globalisation tag again. This is an appalling article. Adding in "other countries do this" is NOT a worldwide view. Nearly every single reference is an American one. The article uses blood donation information from the USA as fact. I believe the tag should stay until this mess is sorted out. This article should be scrubbed clean with generic information and sub-headings of the countries, or if required new articles such as Blood donation in the United States with appopriate summarising in this article. Panthro ( talk) 17:38, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
What's this? by a simple iron test. A phlebotomist pricks the donor's finger and elicits a small drop of blood. This blood is placed into a chemical solution — if the blood is dense enough to sink in the solution, there is sufficient iron in the blood to donate. I have never seen this or heard of it. Standard procedure is probably a hemoglobin quickcheck with a hemoglobin photometer. Kosebamse 19:45, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I just created " phlebotomist" and someone there mentioned the hematocrit test. I think this all needs clarification. See also discussion at Talk:Phlebotomist. -- zandperl 03:13, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Some faith groups prohibit blood donation and transfusion. Is it worth mentioning this in the article? Adambisset 20:06, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone have any history on how/when screening regulations were created? Cigarette 21:39, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
finger-prick-sink-or-float is how they do it whenever I've given in the UK. If the result from that is inconclusive, they then do another test.-- JBellis 21:34, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Is this a good place to mention that homosexuals (males who have had sex with other males since 1977) as well as anyone who has been to Africa or had sex with someone who has been to Africa are prohibited from ever giving blood? Ickle 10:19, 23 Sept 2005
How long does it typically take for 500 ml to be donated? -- Commander Keane 13:02, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
U.K. Donation of 470 ml and today 4 minutes 47 seconds. I always consider below 5 minutes a good time and have completed 25 donations without problem. Make sure you have drunk plenty and eaten well and I find being nice and warm helps quicken the donation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.7.226.18 ( talk) 22:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC) apparently the U.K. Record is 3 minutes, 32 seconds. I've only done it in 4 minutes, 27 seconds. Donated today May 10, 2019; it took me 4 minutes and 11 seconds.
"Anecdotally, elderly people in good health have reported feeling invigorated by giving blood on a regular basis."
Burns 650 calories may well be true but is hardly a benefit as donors need to eat extra to make up for the lost calories and in my view is an unhelpful way of looking at donation.-- JBellis 11:32, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I disagree, and believe the caloric debt should be corrected and restored. First for the correction: if the pint of blood is equivalenced to a literal pound of flesh, that is worth at least 1000 Kcalories based on the equivalent amount of grilled marbled steak. But even that is an underestimate. The most efficient feed-lot animals (chicken or farmed fish) convert feed into flesh with less than 3o% caloric efficiency (just imagine the elaborate biochemistry involved in breaking down foodstuffs and resynthesizing more of yourself.) Thus the caloric debt is plausibly in excess of 3500 Kcal, the very amount which must be lost to shed a pound of weight. Sure the Red Cross gives you a donut or two, but few people treat themselves to the equivalent of a glutton's feast after a blood donation. The relevance of all this in my opinion is that donation at the maximum rate of 6X per year can easily offset the couple of pound upward drift that is common in middle age and beyond. To be sure, so could leaches!
First, donating blood does not "burn" calories. What it does is remove protein, fat and carbohydrate that will be replaced. Second, the replacement of plasma is in a day or two and is almost entirely water, so that's 55% of the pound of blood removed without having to require calories. Third, replacing red blood cells doesn't get started until five days after, and takes 4-8 weeks to complete, so there is no excuse for eating extra after donating. As for actual number of calories being removed, my calculations come to 425 for women and 460 for men (higher because of higher percent of blood is red blood cells). My calculations do not include the additional energy of synthesis of proteins, hemoglobin and cell membranes, so that might be the bridge to the higher estimate posted at the Mayo Clinic website. And yes, I have a doctorate in biochemistry. David notMD ( talk) 05:58, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
I hear that in some countries (e.g. Italy) the session must happen in the morning and the donor is required not to have eaten anything for 12 hours before the donation, supposedly to get "purer" blood. Is that true? If so, why do other countries not do that? Thanks. PizzaMargherita 23:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I found a reference
This roughly translates to
Other references mandate (as opposed to prefer) an 8-hour fast before the donation. In other countries I'm pretty sure they suggest to eat something before you give blood. PizzaMargherita 00:51, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
In response to the "{{unreferenced|date=August 2006}}" tag on this section, I took the liberty of rewriting this section. I moved the "check with your local blood bank" sentence to the top of the paragraph to emphasize its importance. I rewrote the description of the requirements a bit, relying specifically on the web sites for several countries' blood banks. If other countries have substantially different requirements from the sources I used, please make the appropriate edits (like you need me to tell you that). I left the "some countries require a fast" sentence in place, even though none of the countries I cited to impose that requirement; I added the "{{citeneeded}}" tag to that sentence. I see that there's a possible cite earlier in this discussion, but I didn't want to add that cite myself since I can't verify the translation. Kickaha Ota 22:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I've been trying to find more information about complications and so far the internet has not turned up anything other then bruising. No time duration for bruising or other symptoms are discussed. I also have a hard time believing 1% of people get bruises as for me personally it's more like 25% of the time. Regardless a week ago I gave blood and the last few nights I've been waking up with my arm really hurting. The bruise is also showing a bit of a direction towards my wrist. A slightly injured shoulder above the arm is really starting to hurt in concert with the arm during the night... Could laying down cause an increase in the pain compared to standing? Should I seek medical attention? Has there been anyone else have these kind of symptoms? It would be nice to have more information or a link to more in-depth complication studies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeHorlacher ( talk • contribs)
I have donated blood a total of six times. Around the fourth time I got mildly light headed and needed to lay down. Now I gave for the 6th time today and I nearly passed out. I was at the point where my hands and feet felt like they were asleep (pins and needles.) While recovering one of the phlebotomists(?) mentioned that some people, once they start getting light headed from donating, actually have a higher chance in the future of passing out and will actually experience a worsening of that complication on subsequent donations. I don’t want to stop donating (as was suggested) so I was looking for information on this. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so maybe it should be included in this section of the article? I'm looking for any research or information on that now and if I find any I'll post it here. -- Jeremyh113 19:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Anecdotally, the lightheadedness is often a physiological reaction of the body to some "damage"/needle/blood loss. Similar to when you are cold the body will try to reroute/conserve blood and cause some loss of blood to the head. I find that a cold washcloth on the back of my neck is usually more then adequate to keep me from tunnel-vision.-Mike R
Tell the phlebotomist of your concern before you start. The response should be to elevate your feet and put a coldpack behind your neck (Mike R's note). And to stay prone a bit longer than usual before standing up. Part of the problem is that if you have had a few bad experiences, the anxiety contributes to triggering the lightheadedness. David notMD ( talk) 20:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm proposing culling the entire "External links" section. Having a list of blood donation agencies is
Unless there is some serious objection, I'll remove it soonish. dewet| ™ 17:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
What would make these individual organisations notable? JFW | T@lk 23:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
When I donated in the USA in 1997, I was given two bar-code stickers and left in privacy to stick the appropriate one on the blood bag (or maybe it was on the paperwork, I don't now recall). The idea was to deal with the danger of at-risk people giving blood just to get a free HIV test - one sticker meant the blood would be tested but not given to patients, the other meant it was OK to use (pending the usual testing). Anybody more familiar with the US donation process feel like mentioning this in the article? -- Calair 03:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I just donated today actually. Here in Canada, they have this. After the nurse checks your blood pressure, heart rate, checks your arms for needle marks, asks all the high risk questions etc. etc. they leave the little cubicle and there are two stickers that say "Use my blood" and "Do not use my blood". It's basically just because they know that there will be people who will use blood donation as a means of having themselves tested for STD's and there's really nothing they can do about it. This is just because the tests are not 100% accurate and a person will be able to get themselves tested still but they can anonymously have their blood discarded rather than used, they still get tested but hopefully have the sense to keep others away from such a risk. In Canada all blood donation is handled by Canadian Blood Services, a government organization so everything is standard.
I just donated blood today and I fainted near the end of operation. I lost all energy and everything went black, then I remember waking up with doctors struggling to keep me down because I was really tense (it was quite scary)
I noticed the article make no mention of fainting, perhaps that should be added.
Agreed, I fainted today too, and I think it is a part of blood donation and should be included.
Also, my blood was taken with a bloodmobile, maybe those should be mentioned too.
Sure it should be in there. It isn't overly common in healthy individuals, but the lowered blood sugar levels can cause lightheadedness, dizzyness, fainting etc. etc. That's what the cookies and sugar juice are for.
We had a blood drive at my school that I decided to take part in. My blood pressure is already fairly low - it's between 90-120 / 50-60 most days. Before I gave blood, it was 118/56. About five minutes into the procedure, I began feeling light-headed and started to see stars, so I decided I'd ask the nurse "About how light-headed should I feel?" just to double-check. She then told me that I shouldn't be at all, so she quickly disconnected the needle, elevated my legs, and laid my head down flat. Then she gave me cool, damp rags for my head and stomach as well as a can of soda. It was somewhat alarming, but it happened to several other people that day - I noticed one of my friends in the same position as I was leaving the donation area, and before I donated I watched as a nurse laid a girl on the floor and put her feet up on a chair, also placing damp towels on her head and stomach.
So apparently, it's normal. Dakana2511 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I was in charge of organising a blood drive for my school. We took a group of 8 each week and about every two weeks someone would faint. It usually occurs in lighter people as a standardised amount of blood is taken (470mLs in Australia) as long as you weigh 50kg, and as lighter people have less blood, the rapid decline in blood volume results in not enough oxygen carried to the brain - hence the fainting. I fainted during my last donation, and it was so embarassing. I was talking to my friend and aparently I stopped, went tense and pulled a wierd face. I woke up with like 4 nurses around me, looking like i was dying. I felt fine, but it was pretty shocking, not to mention embarassing, to wake up with 4 faces frantically assessing you. I haven't been back since :S But I feel I probably should soon. Pure motion 13:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I posted a question at the List of blood donation agencies talk seeking input from anyone interested and able to spare a few minutes and check out the reference in question... is the site indeed a valuable resource, any thoughts? ~ thanks much in advance for help - Introvert • ~ 22:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I think, you`d better name some outstanding people, who donated or did smth as blood volunteers. This information is needed. Thow it is not so simple to get it (my own experience). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.110.9.254 ( talk • contribs) on 17:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Should there be something in this article about why blood cannot be sold (but plasma can) in the United States? (I'd add it if I could remember, but sadly I do not.) -- Dr Archeville 14:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I am curious about this topic too. I donate blood regularly, but often I wonder why I should go through this expense of time and discomfort without compensation on the behalf of someone getting a surgery--maybe even a cosmetic surgery--if the person undergoing the surgery has the ability to compensate me for my efforts. I am happy to donate blood to the poor who can't afford it, but why the charity for the rich? I live in the U.S. and most people in this country have more money than I do. There are clearly no widespread ideas that "blood should be free for everyone," because the blood donation agency and the hospital both charge the patient for my blood. -- L. Bartlett 03:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I also think this is an important subject to include (or link to a new article). IMO the selling of blood has played a role in spreading blood born diseases such as HIV (eg injection drug users selling blood to get a fix). It was also an impetus in the Health_Management_Associates_Scandal. -- Mm1972 20:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Paying money for blood donations is plain and simple a bad idea. It's unfortunate, but the bottom line is that when you have a process by which people can make money quickly, easily, and without having to sacrifice anything tangible they're going to miss, it attracts a certain demographic. Such a program is more likely to attract members of the lower economic group of society. Statistically, the least well off members of society are far more likely to carry transmitable diseases such as hepatitis, HIV, etc. etc. It isn't unfair or prejudiced anymore than insurance companies charging higher premiums for younger drivers is. It's merely a statistical truth. Plasma donation, at least in Canada whose system I'm familiar with, is a more involved process than blood donation. Under certain circumstances, those who wish to donate must have a physical examination and are put through more rigorous screening than blood donars are.
Here in Canada I think this is solid and sale of blood isn't something up for debate. Due to the private nature of American health care though, I can see it being a different story. But even still, though the testing methods for blood are extremely accurate, as we know, mistakes can always be made. The costs of compensation of patients who have been exposed to tainted blood is absolutely enormous in some cases. So they have to take any possible precaution they can do ensure their sources are safe. That's why they ask all those ultra personal questions ie. "Have you paid for sex.... Have you had sex with another man.... etc. etc." It's all risk assessment.
I started a new page on bloodmobiles but I have no idea how to format a page. If anyone feels nice they can make it so it fits in with this page better, expand it, or merge it with this one whilst adding information. That would be greatly appreciated. -- Meissmart 15:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
On hold: entire sections are unreferenced and the stray link at the bottom of the Complications section needs taken care of. Rlevse 01:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
In Quebec (where I live), we have to wait at least 56 days between two donations [5]. Maybe it would be nice to include similar figures for the Rest of Canada, the US, and other countries. Hugo Dufort 22:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
How long does the blood last when not frozen for 10 years? 193.111.195.35 19:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
"Donors are discouraged from heavy exercise or lifting until the next day."
Does use of crutches count as heavy lifting? Are people who use crutches disqualified from donating? American Red Cross's tips page doesn't seem to state one way or the other what counts as "strenuous physical activity or heavy lifting", and I can't tell from ARC's eligibility guidelines whether use of crutches makes one not "healthy". Are other organizations' sites more informative? -- Damian Yerrick ( talk | stalk) 14:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
When do you get a donor card in Canada? I donated once and plan on doing it again. WestJet 17:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Image:Blood_Donation_12-07-06_1.JPG A reader of the German Wikipedia did notice that the headline picture is somewhat misleading - in reality nobody is striped so heavily and there will be no blood samples taken along with the blood donation. That's wrong. Sadly we don't have a better picture at hand so I think the best plan is to modify the caption the of picture pointing the reader to the fact that this is a variant used by the US Navy - obviously showing a standard that is used in the field, this [6] shows the same setup and here [7] we have the blood samples again. Guidod 10:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Just a question- That picture of the needle says it's from Australia. I planned on donating blood, but is the needle that large in America? Because if it is, I just might rethink my plans! That thing is huge! Thanks! Lizzysama 23:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Just my 2 cents. As a regular donor with Blood Assurance, I can say that the picture is consistent with their procedure as well. They also take blood samples during the process. Prometheus-X303- 13:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I have donated over ten times, but I don't remember the number. That looks typical of how donations are done when I donate. The thing on the bicep is a tourniquet not tape. Then there are two pieces of tape to secure the blue thing which holds the needle after donation is complete. After the bag is filled, and the tape removed, the phlebotomist will hold the blue thing in one hand and pull on the tubing with the other. The needle will go inside the blue thing and I think it locks in place. The phlebotomist does not touch the needle once it has punctured the donor. This would prevent potential injury to anyone who has to handle this stuff later. The scissors under the elbow is clamp that is used to pinch the tubing. If you follow the line near the donor's watch, you'll see that it splits. One line goes down to the bag. The other one goes to that yellow thing which has a needle inside. The test tubes have rubber tops which get pierced by the needle allowing blood to flow into the tube. I don't know what prevents the blood from flowing out when the tube is not there though. Usually when I donate, the tubes are not filled until after the bag is filled. Ae86 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Some potential info for the article: Donations of two units of red cells at Blood Assurance are done with the ALYX machine. One of it's side effects is a slight chill due to the return fluids being at room temperature instead of body temp. Prometheus-X303- 13:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Weight Restrictions
Maybe it should be specifically included somewhere that many organisations require the donor to be above a certain weight? I know in the UK, US and many parts of europe, the donor must be at least 50 kg or 110 lb. Not sure quite how wide spread this is though. just a little bitter that I'm not heavy enough, 141.2.246.31 17:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Sexual Orientation
American Red Cross still will not accept blood from any male who admits to having homosexual sex. They do this citing the gay population as being a "high risk" group for contracting HIV. They do not even allow for donation if a gay male has been celibate for years and tests negative. There has been some controversy about whether this is discrimination.
There are also restrictions (some temporary, some permanent) for the following situations.
Acupuncture Age Allergy, Stuffy Nose, Itchy Eyes, Dry Cough Antibiotics Aspirin Asthma Birth Control Bleeding Disorders Blood Pressure, High Blood Pressure, Low Blood Transfusion Cancer Chronic Illnesses Cold, Flu Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD);"Mad Cow Disease" Dental Procedures Donation Intervals Heart Disease Heart Murmur, Heart Valve Disorder Hemochromatosis Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, Blood Count Hepatitis, Jaundice Hepatitis Exposure Herpes (see Sexually Transmitted Disease) HIV, AIDS Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRP) HPV (see Sexually Transmitted Disease) HPV vaccine (see Immunization, Vaccination) Hypertension, High Blood Pressure Immunization, Vaccination Infections Insulin (bovine) Intravenous Drug Use Malaria Medications Organ/Tissue Transplants Piercing (ears, body), Electrolysis Pregnancy, Nursing Sexually Transmitted Disease Sickle Cell Syphilis/Gonorrhea Tattoo Tuberculosis Travel Outside of U.S., Immigration Vaccinations Venereal Diseases
I removed the statement that the Red Cross requires baby blood donors to be type O because I am not type O and received a phone call from the Red Cross office with whom I donate that my blood is eligible to be donated to babies. Some offices may require this but the Red Cross in general clearly does not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Es330td ( talk • contribs) 19:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Blood. It's in you to live. There are obviously risks in blood donation, so instead of being biased, include risks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.140.227 ( talk) 04:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I haven't added this into the article as I'm a wiki-virgin (this comment is my first foray!), but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in terms of who can donate blood, in the UK they won't let you give blood if you've had a baby within the past 9 months ( http://www.blood.co.uk/pages/flash_questions.html). I've no idea why not. Traveller palm ( talk) 14:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
"In addition to excess iron, a small amount of other toxic chemicals (such as mercury, pesticides, and fire retardants) leaves the donor's blood stream"
I've removed this from the benefits section before, and I've no interest in getting into an edit war. Yes, it's technically true, but that doesn't mean it should be in the article.
It's bad for the recipient: If someone actually does have some sort of significant contamination in their blood, they're putting it into a medical product. That product then gets put into someone else, usually someone who is already in bad shape and cannot afford any problems they can avoid.
It won't help the donor: Most of these toxins would be removed from the body by normal metabolic processes anyway or are bound into something other than circulating blood. Therapeutic phlebotomy isn't indicated for any poisoning but chronic iron poisoning (hemachromatosis).
It's either irrelevant or actively harmful. It's from a marketing study, i.e. any half-truth they can tell that might get donors to come in. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 20:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
This is also from the marketing article, and is quoted verbatim. They do not give any supporting citation or specifics.
I'd propose deleting it and leaving it off unless and until some sort of real support can be generated for it.
Much like direct payment, benefits can induce people to lie about their health in order to donate. I know selfless acts of charity don't sit well with the "me" generation, but they have a real effect on the safety of the blood supply. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 20:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
This article is American in more ways than one in that is getting to be overweight.
Some proposals for daughter/merge articles:
1. History of blood donation, maybe just move information to blood bankhistory section. 2. Move anything related to Plateletpheresis to Plateletpheresis, since this article is heavily redundant. 3. The controversy about MSM donations should probably be its own article. This has been heavily discussed, and it's really more of a civil rights issue than a medical issue. The reason for it is painfully obvious if you read CDC statistics on who has HIV in the US, but regarding MSM as "unclean" is definitely something that people will be offended by.
Some proposals for weight loss:
1. Remove the specifics on donor eligibility and replace them with more general statements. The specifics listed are US standards, which are grossly similar to standards in Australia and Scotland (at least from what I can glean from their posted online questionnaires), but not exactly the same.
2. Remove the "donors for babies" section. It's true, but it's WTMI for a general knowledge encyclopedia article.
3. The ferritin link to heart disease should probably be pared down some or removed. It's new research. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 19:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
3. Please tell us more about ferritin. The article currently has Zero mention of Ferritin! How low is too low for males and females? Blood donation lowers ferritin: by how much?
In some countries they test your ferritin before donation, in some countries they don't. Can we list these countries who test and who don't test ferritin before blood donation?
-- 91.159.189.25 ( talk) 22:26, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Any objections? The person who added it hasn't responded to a request for comment on their talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Somedumbyankee ( talk • contribs) 07:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to attempt to make this article meet Good Article, if not Featured Article, by the WHO day. I will probably be making some aggressive changes to the article, along the following lines:
Subpages to be made:
Did I miss anything? Somedumbyankee ( talk) 22:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks pretty good... I so agree with the prep section, it's not needed at all. Good luck, hopefully it makes it. -- WestJet ( talk) 07:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
This review is transcluded from Talk:Blood donation/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. There are presently quite a few things that need addressing:
Hope this all works out. I'll try to do some copyediting myself if time permits. I will also ask Snowmanradio ( talk · contribs) to offer some expertise. JFW | T@lk 19:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I am not on home ground with blood donation and I am not an expert in this subject, but I can see that the article needs a lot of attention to the format of references and to general copy editing. I think that some of the descriptions of methods are near to a "how to" and will need precise careful referencing. I would like to see more about the general care of the blood donor, and perhaps a little about blood demands in war or a natural disaster. There are many problems with the article. For example; in the introduction:
I've done what I can for this article, and I don't see anything else that can be reasonably included. "Post-donation care" is something I've wrestled with, and I don't see any way to cite it properly without falling into WP:NOTMANUAL. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 16:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
"Whole blood is the simplest kind of blood donation" - but whole blood is the type of blood that is drawn, and is it the same process when the blood was subsequently processed into FFP (and so on) in the laboratory; "The blood is stored in a blood bag" - what about refrigeration?; "chemical that prevents blood clotting" - can this be narrowed down; "The plasma from whole blood can be used to make fresh frozen plasma" - is it just frozen or is it more complicated than this, and why - effects on preserving components of blood, and only freshly drawn blood can be used to made FFP; "used to treat wounded soldiers" - Does this imply treatment of acute shock? and how does this compare with the modern use of crystalloids in acute shock? Snowman ( talk) 10:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Recent changes to the introduction:
Updated changes to the introduction:
Just by looking at another section, "Blood testing", I found more problems with vague text that have been present in all the other sections I have looked at: "A blood type is often determined by the agency that collects the blood" - which agency; "The tests used are high-sensitivity screening tests and no actual diagnosis is made." - I do not understand this; "including some STDs" - I think the point is lost that these are blood born infectious diseases; "Donated blood is tested by many methods, but the core tests used globally are these four:" - the text goes on to say that only about "56 out of 124 countries" use these tests, so the test seems to be non-global and the article has an internal contradiction. A thorough copy edit of the whole article is needed. Snowman ( talk) 09:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
In the "Screening" section: "Donors are typically required to give consent for the process and this requirement means that minors cannot donate without parental consent." What about Gillick competence which is used in many clinical situations through out the world? Snowman ( talk) 10:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I think that some of the vagueness still in the article is confusing and in some cases might even give the wrong impression. The article may need a peer review or become the topic for Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Collaboration of the Week (if selected), and try at GAR on another occasion. Snowman ( talk) 10:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Snowman, while I appreciate your expertise on this issue, I'm a little concerned about some of your comments. For example, you quote "blood type is often determined by the agency that collects the blood" and ask "which agency". The answer to your question is contained in the quoted material: "by the agency that collects the blood." Can you explain how to interpret this restrictive clause in a way that does not communicate that the agency that collects the blood is the agency that often determines the blood type? (I can't.)
Additionally, I think that some of your comments tend to increase the scope of the article inappropriately. Just to name one example, storage issues are probably best handled in another article, because they don't really affect the donation at all. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 21:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I'll be away for a few days as well, probably a good thing since I'm becoming somewhat irritated about things. Getting annoyed at the internet just ain't worth it, so a little time off will be good. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 16:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
To a certain extent, I just wanted to cover that these could be done, but it appears that this is creeping into a major new activity for the article (it seems more an issue for transfusion). One issue that was just added. Clotting factors shouldn't be a problem for direct transfusion, the main advantages would be that it's oxygenated if arterial (the alternative for stored blood is ECMO), and the 2,3-DPG levels are optimal (2,3-DPG levels are one of the main problems with current storage methods). Clotting factor preservation shouldn't be a big deal. Unless this can be cited, I don't see a reason to keep this statement. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 18:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
This was removed from the article, see the previous discussion above. If it were to be included, it would have to be cited (the cites are listed above). Considering it's not an effective way to lose weight, it's not a benefit in the usual sense. The number is something that is of possible interest, and I guess I could see including it as a "fact about donations" in the section with hemoglobin replenishment, etc...
There is no "lighter side" to the document: it's an encyclopedia article. It needn't be boring, but it should stay pretty dry. SDY ( talk) 01:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Still of the opinion that knowing a possible incentive or benefit is false is useful information. But I'll leave it to SDY to put it in or not. David_notMD —Preceding unsigned comment added by David notMD ( talk • contribs) 18:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Charlotte is a nice person and she gves blood —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.103.6 ( talk) 11:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm having trouble finding any sources relating to the number of deaths related to a shortage of blood donations. Are people dying due to lack of blood supplies? According to this source], I am lead to believe that no one in the USA dies from a lack of blood donations. Is there any information about other nations (particularly developing nations)? I think a discussion about the adequacy of current blood supplies is very relevant to this article. I am particularly interested because of the MSM_blood_donor_controversy. I am looking to see if an arguement can be made that the risk of people dying due to blood shortages outweighs the increased risk of passing on diseases. According to the [ FDA website] the risk does not, at least as far as the USA is concerned. What about other countries? Any insight on this issue is appreciated. -- Tea with toast ( talk) 06:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
While I can verify that Titmuss did in fact exist and made some assertions about altruism and blood donation, I'm concerned that the proposed addition to the article overstates his importance. At the very least, I'd like to see some verification on what he "established." Altruism (or benevolence, as argued by a 2005 article in J Med Ethics), has always been a common motivator for blood donation.
I'm a little concerned that I've never heard of this guy, and I've been working with blood banks for eight years now. He had an opinion, certainly, but our article on him suggests that he was well-intentioned but not particularly influential. That the GAO report discussing payment of donors never mentions his name is a little troubling if he is truly that influential.
He's no Landsteiner. SDY ( talk) 01:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Just found a minor mistake / misleading in information in " Recovery and time between donations " section.
the recovery time for donor from HK is 3 months for male and 4 months for female. 6 months are only for the teenage who under 18 but above 16. the old statement wasn't completely incorrect but i feel that it is a bit of misleading and people from HK might think they should go and donate every 6 months. Iamjackhk ( talk) 23:37, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm interested in issues of recovery time, and tried to follow links [62] and [63], but couldn't. Link [62] is a dead end, and link [63] takes one to a secure login site (and it's hard to get off that site also!). Volleyhigher ( talk) 01:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)volleyhigher
I was thinking about adding this map but I noticed there was no mention of blood donor deferrals for the female sex partners of MSM. Would it be okay if we add this map (and possibly mention blood donor deferrals for female sex partners of MSM)?
-- Prcc27 ( talk) 06:17, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Someone removed the {{ citation needed}} tags on the following statement:
“ | When the Red Cross started blood donations in Belgium around 1926, potential blood donors were often reluctant and, hence, were paid 400 Belgian francs (= 10 euros) per half a litre of blood. Belgian workers earned an average of approximately 235 Belgian francs per month. There were about 8000 blood donors in Belgium at that time. | ” |
There was no source and the topic isn't discussed further in the article body, so I've moved it here until a source is available. JFW | T@lk 19:03, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Here's what I (with help from others) have been able to dig up regarding sourcing of the claim that donating blood uses "650 calories" (or 600, sometimes).
The Mayo Clinic page mentioned above: http://www.mayoclinic.org/donateblood/know.html was changed into a redirect sometime between Oct 10, 2008 and Feb 26, 2009 (per the Wayback Machine). The earliest archived version of the redirected page (Dec 19, 2008) includes the claim: "You burn about 650 calories by donating one pint of blood." However, it was removed sometime between Feb 26, 2009 and Sep 1, 2009, and does not appear in the current page: https://web.archive.org/web/20150323100120/http://www.mayoclinic.org/donateblood/know.html .
The claim has sometimes been cited to the whole of the University of California, San Diego. The earliest instance of this I've been able to find appears in this story in the Daily Mail on May 31, 2013: Donating blood is as good for YOUR health as it is for the receiver which says: "The University of California in San Diego estimate that for every one pint of blood donated, 650 calories are burned as the body must replenish itself." This was also claimed (around the same time), here. Also around the same time, ( web.archive.org/web/20130627223406/www.opposingviews.com/i/health/new-evidence-suggests-donating-blood-has-health-benefits-donor (on WP blacklist)) repeated the claim, linking to a CNN article from 2000, which, sadly, doesn't mention anything about calories. JesseW, the juggling janitor 03:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
I added a bit of detail on the calorie math in the Invigoration/Benefits section of Talk. David notMD ( talk) 20:39, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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Blood donors' perceptions, motivators and deterrents in Sub-Saharan Africa – a scoping review of evidence. doi:10.1111/bjh.14588 JFW | T@lk 12:21, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Summary:
The start of the article starts with a basic definition of blood donation: "A blood donation occurs when a person voluntarily has blood drawn and used for transfusions and/or made into biopharmaceutical medications by a process called fractionation (separation of whole-blood components)". The introduction continues to briefly explain important aspects such as types of donors, evaluations of donors, and collections. Most of the information in the introduction is short and only discusses the major aspect of blood donation, lacking a lot of information which is explained more in-depth later in the article. An interesting factor of the introduction section is the redirection to other Wikipedia articles that have little to do with the subject but share similar names:
"Give blood" redirects here. For other uses, see Give blood (disambiguation).
Blood donor" redirects here. For the TV episode, see The Blood Donor.
I like how the creators of the article valued efficiency for the readers when making the article. Overall, the introduction is a short, brief, but informative section regarding the topic of blood donation.
The rest of the articles in mainly divided into 8 different contents "Types of donation", "Screening", "Obtaining the blood", "Recovery and time between donations", "Complications", "Storage, supply and demand", "Donor health benefits", and "Donor compensation". Some sections such as "Complications" and "Storage, supply and demand" have an extensive and in-depth analysis regarding the content and the subject. However, "Donor health benefits"'s, and "Donor compensation"'s have a small section that can be expanded on by just my personal knowledge alone. These are the sections that I plan on improving. Contents such as "Screening", "Obtaining the blood" (which I think should have a better title), and "Storage, supply and demand" have subheadings that explain the contents further but I feel that some other contents could benefit from subheading too (again, "Donor health benefits" and "Donor compensation").
One of the major contributions to the article's length in the references with a total of 115 sources. In addition, the article offers related readings(that aren't associated to Wikipedia) that the reader can quickly assess if any of the subjects pique his/her interest. The offered readings include: "Blood Donation and Processing", "How youths are supporting on blood emergency in Nepal?", "Deferred Donors: Anemia & Blood Donation", "British guidelines for transfusion medicine", and "Definitive guide for safe blood donation". Another important aspect of the article is the "See also" tab in the articles that directs the user to related Wikipedia articles: "Blood substitutes", "History of blood donation", "James Harrison (blood donor)", "List of blood donation agencies", "Men who have sex with men blood donor controversy", "Xenotransfusion", and "World Blood Donor Day". This is important concerning the topic of blood donation because it belongs to a major part of medical and biological subjects, and thus are closely related to other topics. If the reader is interested in blood donations, perhaps blood donation agencies will interest him/her as well as any controversy and substitutions of blood donation.
The REAL ASSIGNMENT
Blood Donations During Natural Disasters: Blood donations tend to always be high in demand with numerous accounts repeatedly stating periodic shortages over the decades (Sass). However, this trend is disrupted during national disasters. The trend demonstrates that people are donating the most during catastrophes when, arguably, donations are not as needed compared to periods without disasters (Sass). From 1988 to 2013, it has been reported that there was a greater number of units donated (that is over 100 units) than used on patients for every national disaster (Schmidt). One of the most notable examples of this pattern was the September 11th attacks. A study observed that compared to the four weeks before September 11th, there was an estimated increase of 18,700 donations from first-time donors for the first week after the attack (about 4,000 to about 22,700) while repeat donors increased their donations by 10,000 per week (about 16,400 to 26,400) (Glynn, Busch, Schreiber). Therefore, in the first week after the attack on 9/11, there was an overall estimated 28,700 increase in donations compared to the average weekly donations made four weeks prior to the attack. However, despite the substantial increase of donors, the rate that first-time donors would become repeat donors were the same before and after the attack(Glynn, Busch, Schreiber), demonstrating that for many donors, donations shortly following the attack were a one-time occurrence. The occurrence of September 11 is evidence showcasing that many people who meet the requirements to donate do not donate as much as they could (Glynn, Busch, Schreiber). To better understand the reasoning for the influx of donations, one must understand the core reasons for donating blood in the first place. Multiple studies have shown that the main reason people donate is due to “altruism”, general awareness regarding the demand for blood, increased confidence in oneself, helping a personal friend/relative, and social pressure(Edwards and Zeichner). The reason for the increase in donations is most likely due to altruism and national pride. On the other hand, lack of blood donations can occur due to fear, lack of faith in the medical professionals, inconvenience, and the lack of consideration for donating(Drake).
The Need for Blood Donation The American Red Cross states that each day an estimated 36,000 units of red blood cells are needed (American Red Cross) with not enough donors to match the demands. Most shortages during the year occur between July 4th and Labor Day as well as between December 25th and January 1st. Not to mention, there isn’t a consistent demand for each blood type. One type of blood being in stock does not guarantee that another type is. Blood banks may have some units in stock but lack others, ultimately causing the patients that need units for specific blood types to have delayed or canceled procedures (Glynn). Additionally, every year there is an increase of around 5-7% for transfusions without an increase of donors to balance it as well as a growing population of elderly people that will need more transfusions in the future without a predicted increase in donations(McCarthy). Along those lines, it is known that blood can expire and have a limited shelf life[90], making it essential for donors to continuously donate blood.
Bibliography: (not complete yet) https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/how-blood-donations-help/blood-needs-blood-supply.html
McCarthy, L. J. 2007. How do I manage a blood shortage in a trans- fusion service? Transfusion 47(5): 760–762.
Schmidt, P. J. 2002. Blood and disaster—Supply and demand. New England Journal of Medicine 346(8): 617–620.
Sass, R. (2013). Toward a More Stable Blood Supply: Charitable Incentives, Donation Rates, and the Experience of September 11. American Journal of Bioethics, 13(6), 38–45. https://doi-org.rcbc.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/15265161.2013.781703
Edwards PW, Zeichner A. Blood donor development: effects of personality, motivational and situational variables. Pers Individ Dif.1985;6:743-751.Google Scholar Oswalt RM. A review of blood donor motivation and recruitment. Transfusion.1977;17:123-135.Google Scholar
Piliavin JA. Why do they give the gift of life? a review of research on blood donors since 1977. Transfusion.1990;30:444-459.Google Scholar
Glynn SA, Kleinman SH, Schreiber GB. et al. Motivations to donate blood: demographic comparisons. Transfusion.2002;42:216-225.Google Scholar
Drake AW. Public Attitudes and Decision Processes With Regard to Blood Donation: Final Report and Executive Summary. Cambridge, Mass: MIT; 1978:1-189.
Plans on the article:
will research donor benefits
history of blood donation should be included here (maybe the pre-modern world too)
section on why/why people don't donate
-major events that affected the blood donated in a population at a time (times of crisis)
Bibliography (possible articles that I will use) (I have more but I lost it when I logged out)
Karki, Surendra, et al. “Completeness and Accuracy of Self-Reported History of Blood Donation: Results from a Cohort of Older Adults in Australia.” Transfusion, vol. 59, Jan. 2019, pp. 26–31. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/trf.14986.
Pruszczyk, Katarzyna, et al. “Prior Blood Donations Do Not Affect Efficacy of G‐CSF Mobilization nor Outcomes of Haematopoietic Stem Cell Collection in Healthy Donors.” Vox Sanguinis, vol. 114, no. 6, Aug. 2019, pp. 622–627. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/vox.12816.
Patel, Eshan U., et al. “Sociodemographic and Behavioral Characteristics Associated with Blood Donation in the United States: A Population-Based Study.” Transfusion, vol. 59, no. 9, Sept. 2019, pp. 2899–2907. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/trf.15415.
Clackett, Shawn, et al. “Attitudes and Willingness to Donate Blood among Gay and Bisexual Men in Australia.” Transfusion, vol. 60, no. 5, May 2020, pp. 965–973. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/trf.15768. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannah Stevenson ( talk • contribs) 03:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
The current description is incomplete. Currently it's having blood drawn voluntarily. That's phlebotomy, if it's any single word. Blood donation is actually having blood drawn for medical use as a treatment, including either transfusion or creation of pharmaceuticals. Is that too long? IAmNitpicking ( talk) 02:03, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Hb blood level < 13 g/dL reduced the antibody response by 63% (p=0.04).
https://journals.lww.com/transplantjournal/Abstract/9000/Humoral Respo
Good to know during covid-19 and flu season?
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"A large[51] needle (16 to 17 gauge) is used to minimize shearing forces that may physically damage red blood cells as they flow through the needle.[52] " This is commonly believed by phlebotomist, but not empirically supported. Many people call it an old wives tale. Smaller gauge needles do not increase hemolysis except when vacuum containers are used and they are only used in blood donation to draw samples for testing. Large bore needles are used because they have higher flow rates and allow the donation to be completed in less time, and the higher flow rate also prevents clotting. I just need better sources to fully support this. SSyntaxin ( talk) 16:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
The "needs globalization" tag was added with no discussion, just a comment that the page is "US-centric." That's hardly a prima facie case, especially since at a glance I see Australia popping up. It would certainly strenghten the argument if the globalization-happy person who made the change had cited some detail where other countries do substantially different things from the article. ( Hyperionred 18:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC))
I have added a globalisation tag again. This is an appalling article. Adding in "other countries do this" is NOT a worldwide view. Nearly every single reference is an American one. The article uses blood donation information from the USA as fact. I believe the tag should stay until this mess is sorted out. This article should be scrubbed clean with generic information and sub-headings of the countries, or if required new articles such as Blood donation in the United States with appopriate summarising in this article. Panthro ( talk) 17:38, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
What's this? by a simple iron test. A phlebotomist pricks the donor's finger and elicits a small drop of blood. This blood is placed into a chemical solution — if the blood is dense enough to sink in the solution, there is sufficient iron in the blood to donate. I have never seen this or heard of it. Standard procedure is probably a hemoglobin quickcheck with a hemoglobin photometer. Kosebamse 19:45, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I just created " phlebotomist" and someone there mentioned the hematocrit test. I think this all needs clarification. See also discussion at Talk:Phlebotomist. -- zandperl 03:13, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Some faith groups prohibit blood donation and transfusion. Is it worth mentioning this in the article? Adambisset 20:06, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone have any history on how/when screening regulations were created? Cigarette 21:39, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
finger-prick-sink-or-float is how they do it whenever I've given in the UK. If the result from that is inconclusive, they then do another test.-- JBellis 21:34, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Is this a good place to mention that homosexuals (males who have had sex with other males since 1977) as well as anyone who has been to Africa or had sex with someone who has been to Africa are prohibited from ever giving blood? Ickle 10:19, 23 Sept 2005
How long does it typically take for 500 ml to be donated? -- Commander Keane 13:02, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
U.K. Donation of 470 ml and today 4 minutes 47 seconds. I always consider below 5 minutes a good time and have completed 25 donations without problem. Make sure you have drunk plenty and eaten well and I find being nice and warm helps quicken the donation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.7.226.18 ( talk) 22:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC) apparently the U.K. Record is 3 minutes, 32 seconds. I've only done it in 4 minutes, 27 seconds. Donated today May 10, 2019; it took me 4 minutes and 11 seconds.
"Anecdotally, elderly people in good health have reported feeling invigorated by giving blood on a regular basis."
Burns 650 calories may well be true but is hardly a benefit as donors need to eat extra to make up for the lost calories and in my view is an unhelpful way of looking at donation.-- JBellis 11:32, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I disagree, and believe the caloric debt should be corrected and restored. First for the correction: if the pint of blood is equivalenced to a literal pound of flesh, that is worth at least 1000 Kcalories based on the equivalent amount of grilled marbled steak. But even that is an underestimate. The most efficient feed-lot animals (chicken or farmed fish) convert feed into flesh with less than 3o% caloric efficiency (just imagine the elaborate biochemistry involved in breaking down foodstuffs and resynthesizing more of yourself.) Thus the caloric debt is plausibly in excess of 3500 Kcal, the very amount which must be lost to shed a pound of weight. Sure the Red Cross gives you a donut or two, but few people treat themselves to the equivalent of a glutton's feast after a blood donation. The relevance of all this in my opinion is that donation at the maximum rate of 6X per year can easily offset the couple of pound upward drift that is common in middle age and beyond. To be sure, so could leaches!
First, donating blood does not "burn" calories. What it does is remove protein, fat and carbohydrate that will be replaced. Second, the replacement of plasma is in a day or two and is almost entirely water, so that's 55% of the pound of blood removed without having to require calories. Third, replacing red blood cells doesn't get started until five days after, and takes 4-8 weeks to complete, so there is no excuse for eating extra after donating. As for actual number of calories being removed, my calculations come to 425 for women and 460 for men (higher because of higher percent of blood is red blood cells). My calculations do not include the additional energy of synthesis of proteins, hemoglobin and cell membranes, so that might be the bridge to the higher estimate posted at the Mayo Clinic website. And yes, I have a doctorate in biochemistry. David notMD ( talk) 05:58, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
I hear that in some countries (e.g. Italy) the session must happen in the morning and the donor is required not to have eaten anything for 12 hours before the donation, supposedly to get "purer" blood. Is that true? If so, why do other countries not do that? Thanks. PizzaMargherita 23:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I found a reference
This roughly translates to
Other references mandate (as opposed to prefer) an 8-hour fast before the donation. In other countries I'm pretty sure they suggest to eat something before you give blood. PizzaMargherita 00:51, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
In response to the "{{unreferenced|date=August 2006}}" tag on this section, I took the liberty of rewriting this section. I moved the "check with your local blood bank" sentence to the top of the paragraph to emphasize its importance. I rewrote the description of the requirements a bit, relying specifically on the web sites for several countries' blood banks. If other countries have substantially different requirements from the sources I used, please make the appropriate edits (like you need me to tell you that). I left the "some countries require a fast" sentence in place, even though none of the countries I cited to impose that requirement; I added the "{{citeneeded}}" tag to that sentence. I see that there's a possible cite earlier in this discussion, but I didn't want to add that cite myself since I can't verify the translation. Kickaha Ota 22:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I've been trying to find more information about complications and so far the internet has not turned up anything other then bruising. No time duration for bruising or other symptoms are discussed. I also have a hard time believing 1% of people get bruises as for me personally it's more like 25% of the time. Regardless a week ago I gave blood and the last few nights I've been waking up with my arm really hurting. The bruise is also showing a bit of a direction towards my wrist. A slightly injured shoulder above the arm is really starting to hurt in concert with the arm during the night... Could laying down cause an increase in the pain compared to standing? Should I seek medical attention? Has there been anyone else have these kind of symptoms? It would be nice to have more information or a link to more in-depth complication studies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeHorlacher ( talk • contribs)
I have donated blood a total of six times. Around the fourth time I got mildly light headed and needed to lay down. Now I gave for the 6th time today and I nearly passed out. I was at the point where my hands and feet felt like they were asleep (pins and needles.) While recovering one of the phlebotomists(?) mentioned that some people, once they start getting light headed from donating, actually have a higher chance in the future of passing out and will actually experience a worsening of that complication on subsequent donations. I don’t want to stop donating (as was suggested) so I was looking for information on this. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so maybe it should be included in this section of the article? I'm looking for any research or information on that now and if I find any I'll post it here. -- Jeremyh113 19:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Anecdotally, the lightheadedness is often a physiological reaction of the body to some "damage"/needle/blood loss. Similar to when you are cold the body will try to reroute/conserve blood and cause some loss of blood to the head. I find that a cold washcloth on the back of my neck is usually more then adequate to keep me from tunnel-vision.-Mike R
Tell the phlebotomist of your concern before you start. The response should be to elevate your feet and put a coldpack behind your neck (Mike R's note). And to stay prone a bit longer than usual before standing up. Part of the problem is that if you have had a few bad experiences, the anxiety contributes to triggering the lightheadedness. David notMD ( talk) 20:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm proposing culling the entire "External links" section. Having a list of blood donation agencies is
Unless there is some serious objection, I'll remove it soonish. dewet| ™ 17:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
What would make these individual organisations notable? JFW | T@lk 23:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
When I donated in the USA in 1997, I was given two bar-code stickers and left in privacy to stick the appropriate one on the blood bag (or maybe it was on the paperwork, I don't now recall). The idea was to deal with the danger of at-risk people giving blood just to get a free HIV test - one sticker meant the blood would be tested but not given to patients, the other meant it was OK to use (pending the usual testing). Anybody more familiar with the US donation process feel like mentioning this in the article? -- Calair 03:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I just donated today actually. Here in Canada, they have this. After the nurse checks your blood pressure, heart rate, checks your arms for needle marks, asks all the high risk questions etc. etc. they leave the little cubicle and there are two stickers that say "Use my blood" and "Do not use my blood". It's basically just because they know that there will be people who will use blood donation as a means of having themselves tested for STD's and there's really nothing they can do about it. This is just because the tests are not 100% accurate and a person will be able to get themselves tested still but they can anonymously have their blood discarded rather than used, they still get tested but hopefully have the sense to keep others away from such a risk. In Canada all blood donation is handled by Canadian Blood Services, a government organization so everything is standard.
I just donated blood today and I fainted near the end of operation. I lost all energy and everything went black, then I remember waking up with doctors struggling to keep me down because I was really tense (it was quite scary)
I noticed the article make no mention of fainting, perhaps that should be added.
Agreed, I fainted today too, and I think it is a part of blood donation and should be included.
Also, my blood was taken with a bloodmobile, maybe those should be mentioned too.
Sure it should be in there. It isn't overly common in healthy individuals, but the lowered blood sugar levels can cause lightheadedness, dizzyness, fainting etc. etc. That's what the cookies and sugar juice are for.
We had a blood drive at my school that I decided to take part in. My blood pressure is already fairly low - it's between 90-120 / 50-60 most days. Before I gave blood, it was 118/56. About five minutes into the procedure, I began feeling light-headed and started to see stars, so I decided I'd ask the nurse "About how light-headed should I feel?" just to double-check. She then told me that I shouldn't be at all, so she quickly disconnected the needle, elevated my legs, and laid my head down flat. Then she gave me cool, damp rags for my head and stomach as well as a can of soda. It was somewhat alarming, but it happened to several other people that day - I noticed one of my friends in the same position as I was leaving the donation area, and before I donated I watched as a nurse laid a girl on the floor and put her feet up on a chair, also placing damp towels on her head and stomach.
So apparently, it's normal. Dakana2511 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I was in charge of organising a blood drive for my school. We took a group of 8 each week and about every two weeks someone would faint. It usually occurs in lighter people as a standardised amount of blood is taken (470mLs in Australia) as long as you weigh 50kg, and as lighter people have less blood, the rapid decline in blood volume results in not enough oxygen carried to the brain - hence the fainting. I fainted during my last donation, and it was so embarassing. I was talking to my friend and aparently I stopped, went tense and pulled a wierd face. I woke up with like 4 nurses around me, looking like i was dying. I felt fine, but it was pretty shocking, not to mention embarassing, to wake up with 4 faces frantically assessing you. I haven't been back since :S But I feel I probably should soon. Pure motion 13:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I posted a question at the List of blood donation agencies talk seeking input from anyone interested and able to spare a few minutes and check out the reference in question... is the site indeed a valuable resource, any thoughts? ~ thanks much in advance for help - Introvert • ~ 22:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I think, you`d better name some outstanding people, who donated or did smth as blood volunteers. This information is needed. Thow it is not so simple to get it (my own experience). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.110.9.254 ( talk • contribs) on 17:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Should there be something in this article about why blood cannot be sold (but plasma can) in the United States? (I'd add it if I could remember, but sadly I do not.) -- Dr Archeville 14:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I am curious about this topic too. I donate blood regularly, but often I wonder why I should go through this expense of time and discomfort without compensation on the behalf of someone getting a surgery--maybe even a cosmetic surgery--if the person undergoing the surgery has the ability to compensate me for my efforts. I am happy to donate blood to the poor who can't afford it, but why the charity for the rich? I live in the U.S. and most people in this country have more money than I do. There are clearly no widespread ideas that "blood should be free for everyone," because the blood donation agency and the hospital both charge the patient for my blood. -- L. Bartlett 03:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I also think this is an important subject to include (or link to a new article). IMO the selling of blood has played a role in spreading blood born diseases such as HIV (eg injection drug users selling blood to get a fix). It was also an impetus in the Health_Management_Associates_Scandal. -- Mm1972 20:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Paying money for blood donations is plain and simple a bad idea. It's unfortunate, but the bottom line is that when you have a process by which people can make money quickly, easily, and without having to sacrifice anything tangible they're going to miss, it attracts a certain demographic. Such a program is more likely to attract members of the lower economic group of society. Statistically, the least well off members of society are far more likely to carry transmitable diseases such as hepatitis, HIV, etc. etc. It isn't unfair or prejudiced anymore than insurance companies charging higher premiums for younger drivers is. It's merely a statistical truth. Plasma donation, at least in Canada whose system I'm familiar with, is a more involved process than blood donation. Under certain circumstances, those who wish to donate must have a physical examination and are put through more rigorous screening than blood donars are.
Here in Canada I think this is solid and sale of blood isn't something up for debate. Due to the private nature of American health care though, I can see it being a different story. But even still, though the testing methods for blood are extremely accurate, as we know, mistakes can always be made. The costs of compensation of patients who have been exposed to tainted blood is absolutely enormous in some cases. So they have to take any possible precaution they can do ensure their sources are safe. That's why they ask all those ultra personal questions ie. "Have you paid for sex.... Have you had sex with another man.... etc. etc." It's all risk assessment.
I started a new page on bloodmobiles but I have no idea how to format a page. If anyone feels nice they can make it so it fits in with this page better, expand it, or merge it with this one whilst adding information. That would be greatly appreciated. -- Meissmart 15:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
On hold: entire sections are unreferenced and the stray link at the bottom of the Complications section needs taken care of. Rlevse 01:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
In Quebec (where I live), we have to wait at least 56 days between two donations [5]. Maybe it would be nice to include similar figures for the Rest of Canada, the US, and other countries. Hugo Dufort 22:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
How long does the blood last when not frozen for 10 years? 193.111.195.35 19:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
"Donors are discouraged from heavy exercise or lifting until the next day."
Does use of crutches count as heavy lifting? Are people who use crutches disqualified from donating? American Red Cross's tips page doesn't seem to state one way or the other what counts as "strenuous physical activity or heavy lifting", and I can't tell from ARC's eligibility guidelines whether use of crutches makes one not "healthy". Are other organizations' sites more informative? -- Damian Yerrick ( talk | stalk) 14:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
When do you get a donor card in Canada? I donated once and plan on doing it again. WestJet 17:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Image:Blood_Donation_12-07-06_1.JPG A reader of the German Wikipedia did notice that the headline picture is somewhat misleading - in reality nobody is striped so heavily and there will be no blood samples taken along with the blood donation. That's wrong. Sadly we don't have a better picture at hand so I think the best plan is to modify the caption the of picture pointing the reader to the fact that this is a variant used by the US Navy - obviously showing a standard that is used in the field, this [6] shows the same setup and here [7] we have the blood samples again. Guidod 10:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Just a question- That picture of the needle says it's from Australia. I planned on donating blood, but is the needle that large in America? Because if it is, I just might rethink my plans! That thing is huge! Thanks! Lizzysama 23:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Just my 2 cents. As a regular donor with Blood Assurance, I can say that the picture is consistent with their procedure as well. They also take blood samples during the process. Prometheus-X303- 13:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I have donated over ten times, but I don't remember the number. That looks typical of how donations are done when I donate. The thing on the bicep is a tourniquet not tape. Then there are two pieces of tape to secure the blue thing which holds the needle after donation is complete. After the bag is filled, and the tape removed, the phlebotomist will hold the blue thing in one hand and pull on the tubing with the other. The needle will go inside the blue thing and I think it locks in place. The phlebotomist does not touch the needle once it has punctured the donor. This would prevent potential injury to anyone who has to handle this stuff later. The scissors under the elbow is clamp that is used to pinch the tubing. If you follow the line near the donor's watch, you'll see that it splits. One line goes down to the bag. The other one goes to that yellow thing which has a needle inside. The test tubes have rubber tops which get pierced by the needle allowing blood to flow into the tube. I don't know what prevents the blood from flowing out when the tube is not there though. Usually when I donate, the tubes are not filled until after the bag is filled. Ae86 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Some potential info for the article: Donations of two units of red cells at Blood Assurance are done with the ALYX machine. One of it's side effects is a slight chill due to the return fluids being at room temperature instead of body temp. Prometheus-X303- 13:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Weight Restrictions
Maybe it should be specifically included somewhere that many organisations require the donor to be above a certain weight? I know in the UK, US and many parts of europe, the donor must be at least 50 kg or 110 lb. Not sure quite how wide spread this is though. just a little bitter that I'm not heavy enough, 141.2.246.31 17:16, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Sexual Orientation
American Red Cross still will not accept blood from any male who admits to having homosexual sex. They do this citing the gay population as being a "high risk" group for contracting HIV. They do not even allow for donation if a gay male has been celibate for years and tests negative. There has been some controversy about whether this is discrimination.
There are also restrictions (some temporary, some permanent) for the following situations.
Acupuncture Age Allergy, Stuffy Nose, Itchy Eyes, Dry Cough Antibiotics Aspirin Asthma Birth Control Bleeding Disorders Blood Pressure, High Blood Pressure, Low Blood Transfusion Cancer Chronic Illnesses Cold, Flu Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, Variant (vCJD);"Mad Cow Disease" Dental Procedures Donation Intervals Heart Disease Heart Murmur, Heart Valve Disorder Hemochromatosis Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, Blood Count Hepatitis, Jaundice Hepatitis Exposure Herpes (see Sexually Transmitted Disease) HIV, AIDS Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRP) HPV (see Sexually Transmitted Disease) HPV vaccine (see Immunization, Vaccination) Hypertension, High Blood Pressure Immunization, Vaccination Infections Insulin (bovine) Intravenous Drug Use Malaria Medications Organ/Tissue Transplants Piercing (ears, body), Electrolysis Pregnancy, Nursing Sexually Transmitted Disease Sickle Cell Syphilis/Gonorrhea Tattoo Tuberculosis Travel Outside of U.S., Immigration Vaccinations Venereal Diseases
I removed the statement that the Red Cross requires baby blood donors to be type O because I am not type O and received a phone call from the Red Cross office with whom I donate that my blood is eligible to be donated to babies. Some offices may require this but the Red Cross in general clearly does not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Es330td ( talk • contribs) 19:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Blood. It's in you to live. There are obviously risks in blood donation, so instead of being biased, include risks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.140.227 ( talk) 04:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I haven't added this into the article as I'm a wiki-virgin (this comment is my first foray!), but I thought it might be worth mentioning that in terms of who can donate blood, in the UK they won't let you give blood if you've had a baby within the past 9 months ( http://www.blood.co.uk/pages/flash_questions.html). I've no idea why not. Traveller palm ( talk) 14:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
"In addition to excess iron, a small amount of other toxic chemicals (such as mercury, pesticides, and fire retardants) leaves the donor's blood stream"
I've removed this from the benefits section before, and I've no interest in getting into an edit war. Yes, it's technically true, but that doesn't mean it should be in the article.
It's bad for the recipient: If someone actually does have some sort of significant contamination in their blood, they're putting it into a medical product. That product then gets put into someone else, usually someone who is already in bad shape and cannot afford any problems they can avoid.
It won't help the donor: Most of these toxins would be removed from the body by normal metabolic processes anyway or are bound into something other than circulating blood. Therapeutic phlebotomy isn't indicated for any poisoning but chronic iron poisoning (hemachromatosis).
It's either irrelevant or actively harmful. It's from a marketing study, i.e. any half-truth they can tell that might get donors to come in. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 20:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
This is also from the marketing article, and is quoted verbatim. They do not give any supporting citation or specifics.
I'd propose deleting it and leaving it off unless and until some sort of real support can be generated for it.
Much like direct payment, benefits can induce people to lie about their health in order to donate. I know selfless acts of charity don't sit well with the "me" generation, but they have a real effect on the safety of the blood supply. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 20:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
This article is American in more ways than one in that is getting to be overweight.
Some proposals for daughter/merge articles:
1. History of blood donation, maybe just move information to blood bankhistory section. 2. Move anything related to Plateletpheresis to Plateletpheresis, since this article is heavily redundant. 3. The controversy about MSM donations should probably be its own article. This has been heavily discussed, and it's really more of a civil rights issue than a medical issue. The reason for it is painfully obvious if you read CDC statistics on who has HIV in the US, but regarding MSM as "unclean" is definitely something that people will be offended by.
Some proposals for weight loss:
1. Remove the specifics on donor eligibility and replace them with more general statements. The specifics listed are US standards, which are grossly similar to standards in Australia and Scotland (at least from what I can glean from their posted online questionnaires), but not exactly the same.
2. Remove the "donors for babies" section. It's true, but it's WTMI for a general knowledge encyclopedia article.
3. The ferritin link to heart disease should probably be pared down some or removed. It's new research. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 19:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
3. Please tell us more about ferritin. The article currently has Zero mention of Ferritin! How low is too low for males and females? Blood donation lowers ferritin: by how much?
In some countries they test your ferritin before donation, in some countries they don't. Can we list these countries who test and who don't test ferritin before blood donation?
-- 91.159.189.25 ( talk) 22:26, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Any objections? The person who added it hasn't responded to a request for comment on their talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Somedumbyankee ( talk • contribs) 07:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to attempt to make this article meet Good Article, if not Featured Article, by the WHO day. I will probably be making some aggressive changes to the article, along the following lines:
Subpages to be made:
Did I miss anything? Somedumbyankee ( talk) 22:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks pretty good... I so agree with the prep section, it's not needed at all. Good luck, hopefully it makes it. -- WestJet ( talk) 07:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
This review is transcluded from Talk:Blood donation/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. There are presently quite a few things that need addressing:
Hope this all works out. I'll try to do some copyediting myself if time permits. I will also ask Snowmanradio ( talk · contribs) to offer some expertise. JFW | T@lk 19:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I am not on home ground with blood donation and I am not an expert in this subject, but I can see that the article needs a lot of attention to the format of references and to general copy editing. I think that some of the descriptions of methods are near to a "how to" and will need precise careful referencing. I would like to see more about the general care of the blood donor, and perhaps a little about blood demands in war or a natural disaster. There are many problems with the article. For example; in the introduction:
I've done what I can for this article, and I don't see anything else that can be reasonably included. "Post-donation care" is something I've wrestled with, and I don't see any way to cite it properly without falling into WP:NOTMANUAL. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 16:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
"Whole blood is the simplest kind of blood donation" - but whole blood is the type of blood that is drawn, and is it the same process when the blood was subsequently processed into FFP (and so on) in the laboratory; "The blood is stored in a blood bag" - what about refrigeration?; "chemical that prevents blood clotting" - can this be narrowed down; "The plasma from whole blood can be used to make fresh frozen plasma" - is it just frozen or is it more complicated than this, and why - effects on preserving components of blood, and only freshly drawn blood can be used to made FFP; "used to treat wounded soldiers" - Does this imply treatment of acute shock? and how does this compare with the modern use of crystalloids in acute shock? Snowman ( talk) 10:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Recent changes to the introduction:
Updated changes to the introduction:
Just by looking at another section, "Blood testing", I found more problems with vague text that have been present in all the other sections I have looked at: "A blood type is often determined by the agency that collects the blood" - which agency; "The tests used are high-sensitivity screening tests and no actual diagnosis is made." - I do not understand this; "including some STDs" - I think the point is lost that these are blood born infectious diseases; "Donated blood is tested by many methods, but the core tests used globally are these four:" - the text goes on to say that only about "56 out of 124 countries" use these tests, so the test seems to be non-global and the article has an internal contradiction. A thorough copy edit of the whole article is needed. Snowman ( talk) 09:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
In the "Screening" section: "Donors are typically required to give consent for the process and this requirement means that minors cannot donate without parental consent." What about Gillick competence which is used in many clinical situations through out the world? Snowman ( talk) 10:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I think that some of the vagueness still in the article is confusing and in some cases might even give the wrong impression. The article may need a peer review or become the topic for Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Collaboration of the Week (if selected), and try at GAR on another occasion. Snowman ( talk) 10:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Snowman, while I appreciate your expertise on this issue, I'm a little concerned about some of your comments. For example, you quote "blood type is often determined by the agency that collects the blood" and ask "which agency". The answer to your question is contained in the quoted material: "by the agency that collects the blood." Can you explain how to interpret this restrictive clause in a way that does not communicate that the agency that collects the blood is the agency that often determines the blood type? (I can't.)
Additionally, I think that some of your comments tend to increase the scope of the article inappropriately. Just to name one example, storage issues are probably best handled in another article, because they don't really affect the donation at all. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 21:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I'll be away for a few days as well, probably a good thing since I'm becoming somewhat irritated about things. Getting annoyed at the internet just ain't worth it, so a little time off will be good. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 16:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
To a certain extent, I just wanted to cover that these could be done, but it appears that this is creeping into a major new activity for the article (it seems more an issue for transfusion). One issue that was just added. Clotting factors shouldn't be a problem for direct transfusion, the main advantages would be that it's oxygenated if arterial (the alternative for stored blood is ECMO), and the 2,3-DPG levels are optimal (2,3-DPG levels are one of the main problems with current storage methods). Clotting factor preservation shouldn't be a big deal. Unless this can be cited, I don't see a reason to keep this statement. Somedumbyankee ( talk) 18:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
This was removed from the article, see the previous discussion above. If it were to be included, it would have to be cited (the cites are listed above). Considering it's not an effective way to lose weight, it's not a benefit in the usual sense. The number is something that is of possible interest, and I guess I could see including it as a "fact about donations" in the section with hemoglobin replenishment, etc...
There is no "lighter side" to the document: it's an encyclopedia article. It needn't be boring, but it should stay pretty dry. SDY ( talk) 01:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Still of the opinion that knowing a possible incentive or benefit is false is useful information. But I'll leave it to SDY to put it in or not. David_notMD —Preceding unsigned comment added by David notMD ( talk • contribs) 18:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Charlotte is a nice person and she gves blood —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.103.6 ( talk) 11:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm having trouble finding any sources relating to the number of deaths related to a shortage of blood donations. Are people dying due to lack of blood supplies? According to this source], I am lead to believe that no one in the USA dies from a lack of blood donations. Is there any information about other nations (particularly developing nations)? I think a discussion about the adequacy of current blood supplies is very relevant to this article. I am particularly interested because of the MSM_blood_donor_controversy. I am looking to see if an arguement can be made that the risk of people dying due to blood shortages outweighs the increased risk of passing on diseases. According to the [ FDA website] the risk does not, at least as far as the USA is concerned. What about other countries? Any insight on this issue is appreciated. -- Tea with toast ( talk) 06:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
While I can verify that Titmuss did in fact exist and made some assertions about altruism and blood donation, I'm concerned that the proposed addition to the article overstates his importance. At the very least, I'd like to see some verification on what he "established." Altruism (or benevolence, as argued by a 2005 article in J Med Ethics), has always been a common motivator for blood donation.
I'm a little concerned that I've never heard of this guy, and I've been working with blood banks for eight years now. He had an opinion, certainly, but our article on him suggests that he was well-intentioned but not particularly influential. That the GAO report discussing payment of donors never mentions his name is a little troubling if he is truly that influential.
He's no Landsteiner. SDY ( talk) 01:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Just found a minor mistake / misleading in information in " Recovery and time between donations " section.
the recovery time for donor from HK is 3 months for male and 4 months for female. 6 months are only for the teenage who under 18 but above 16. the old statement wasn't completely incorrect but i feel that it is a bit of misleading and people from HK might think they should go and donate every 6 months. Iamjackhk ( talk) 23:37, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm interested in issues of recovery time, and tried to follow links [62] and [63], but couldn't. Link [62] is a dead end, and link [63] takes one to a secure login site (and it's hard to get off that site also!). Volleyhigher ( talk) 01:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)volleyhigher
I was thinking about adding this map but I noticed there was no mention of blood donor deferrals for the female sex partners of MSM. Would it be okay if we add this map (and possibly mention blood donor deferrals for female sex partners of MSM)?
-- Prcc27 ( talk) 06:17, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Someone removed the {{ citation needed}} tags on the following statement:
“ | When the Red Cross started blood donations in Belgium around 1926, potential blood donors were often reluctant and, hence, were paid 400 Belgian francs (= 10 euros) per half a litre of blood. Belgian workers earned an average of approximately 235 Belgian francs per month. There were about 8000 blood donors in Belgium at that time. | ” |
There was no source and the topic isn't discussed further in the article body, so I've moved it here until a source is available. JFW | T@lk 19:03, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Here's what I (with help from others) have been able to dig up regarding sourcing of the claim that donating blood uses "650 calories" (or 600, sometimes).
The Mayo Clinic page mentioned above: http://www.mayoclinic.org/donateblood/know.html was changed into a redirect sometime between Oct 10, 2008 and Feb 26, 2009 (per the Wayback Machine). The earliest archived version of the redirected page (Dec 19, 2008) includes the claim: "You burn about 650 calories by donating one pint of blood." However, it was removed sometime between Feb 26, 2009 and Sep 1, 2009, and does not appear in the current page: https://web.archive.org/web/20150323100120/http://www.mayoclinic.org/donateblood/know.html .
The claim has sometimes been cited to the whole of the University of California, San Diego. The earliest instance of this I've been able to find appears in this story in the Daily Mail on May 31, 2013: Donating blood is as good for YOUR health as it is for the receiver which says: "The University of California in San Diego estimate that for every one pint of blood donated, 650 calories are burned as the body must replenish itself." This was also claimed (around the same time), here. Also around the same time, ( web.archive.org/web/20130627223406/www.opposingviews.com/i/health/new-evidence-suggests-donating-blood-has-health-benefits-donor (on WP blacklist)) repeated the claim, linking to a CNN article from 2000, which, sadly, doesn't mention anything about calories. JesseW, the juggling janitor 03:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
I added a bit of detail on the calorie math in the Invigoration/Benefits section of Talk. David notMD ( talk) 20:39, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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Blood donors' perceptions, motivators and deterrents in Sub-Saharan Africa – a scoping review of evidence. doi:10.1111/bjh.14588 JFW | T@lk 12:21, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Summary:
The start of the article starts with a basic definition of blood donation: "A blood donation occurs when a person voluntarily has blood drawn and used for transfusions and/or made into biopharmaceutical medications by a process called fractionation (separation of whole-blood components)". The introduction continues to briefly explain important aspects such as types of donors, evaluations of donors, and collections. Most of the information in the introduction is short and only discusses the major aspect of blood donation, lacking a lot of information which is explained more in-depth later in the article. An interesting factor of the introduction section is the redirection to other Wikipedia articles that have little to do with the subject but share similar names:
"Give blood" redirects here. For other uses, see Give blood (disambiguation).
Blood donor" redirects here. For the TV episode, see The Blood Donor.
I like how the creators of the article valued efficiency for the readers when making the article. Overall, the introduction is a short, brief, but informative section regarding the topic of blood donation.
The rest of the articles in mainly divided into 8 different contents "Types of donation", "Screening", "Obtaining the blood", "Recovery and time between donations", "Complications", "Storage, supply and demand", "Donor health benefits", and "Donor compensation". Some sections such as "Complications" and "Storage, supply and demand" have an extensive and in-depth analysis regarding the content and the subject. However, "Donor health benefits"'s, and "Donor compensation"'s have a small section that can be expanded on by just my personal knowledge alone. These are the sections that I plan on improving. Contents such as "Screening", "Obtaining the blood" (which I think should have a better title), and "Storage, supply and demand" have subheadings that explain the contents further but I feel that some other contents could benefit from subheading too (again, "Donor health benefits" and "Donor compensation").
One of the major contributions to the article's length in the references with a total of 115 sources. In addition, the article offers related readings(that aren't associated to Wikipedia) that the reader can quickly assess if any of the subjects pique his/her interest. The offered readings include: "Blood Donation and Processing", "How youths are supporting on blood emergency in Nepal?", "Deferred Donors: Anemia & Blood Donation", "British guidelines for transfusion medicine", and "Definitive guide for safe blood donation". Another important aspect of the article is the "See also" tab in the articles that directs the user to related Wikipedia articles: "Blood substitutes", "History of blood donation", "James Harrison (blood donor)", "List of blood donation agencies", "Men who have sex with men blood donor controversy", "Xenotransfusion", and "World Blood Donor Day". This is important concerning the topic of blood donation because it belongs to a major part of medical and biological subjects, and thus are closely related to other topics. If the reader is interested in blood donations, perhaps blood donation agencies will interest him/her as well as any controversy and substitutions of blood donation.
The REAL ASSIGNMENT
Blood Donations During Natural Disasters: Blood donations tend to always be high in demand with numerous accounts repeatedly stating periodic shortages over the decades (Sass). However, this trend is disrupted during national disasters. The trend demonstrates that people are donating the most during catastrophes when, arguably, donations are not as needed compared to periods without disasters (Sass). From 1988 to 2013, it has been reported that there was a greater number of units donated (that is over 100 units) than used on patients for every national disaster (Schmidt). One of the most notable examples of this pattern was the September 11th attacks. A study observed that compared to the four weeks before September 11th, there was an estimated increase of 18,700 donations from first-time donors for the first week after the attack (about 4,000 to about 22,700) while repeat donors increased their donations by 10,000 per week (about 16,400 to 26,400) (Glynn, Busch, Schreiber). Therefore, in the first week after the attack on 9/11, there was an overall estimated 28,700 increase in donations compared to the average weekly donations made four weeks prior to the attack. However, despite the substantial increase of donors, the rate that first-time donors would become repeat donors were the same before and after the attack(Glynn, Busch, Schreiber), demonstrating that for many donors, donations shortly following the attack were a one-time occurrence. The occurrence of September 11 is evidence showcasing that many people who meet the requirements to donate do not donate as much as they could (Glynn, Busch, Schreiber). To better understand the reasoning for the influx of donations, one must understand the core reasons for donating blood in the first place. Multiple studies have shown that the main reason people donate is due to “altruism”, general awareness regarding the demand for blood, increased confidence in oneself, helping a personal friend/relative, and social pressure(Edwards and Zeichner). The reason for the increase in donations is most likely due to altruism and national pride. On the other hand, lack of blood donations can occur due to fear, lack of faith in the medical professionals, inconvenience, and the lack of consideration for donating(Drake).
The Need for Blood Donation The American Red Cross states that each day an estimated 36,000 units of red blood cells are needed (American Red Cross) with not enough donors to match the demands. Most shortages during the year occur between July 4th and Labor Day as well as between December 25th and January 1st. Not to mention, there isn’t a consistent demand for each blood type. One type of blood being in stock does not guarantee that another type is. Blood banks may have some units in stock but lack others, ultimately causing the patients that need units for specific blood types to have delayed or canceled procedures (Glynn). Additionally, every year there is an increase of around 5-7% for transfusions without an increase of donors to balance it as well as a growing population of elderly people that will need more transfusions in the future without a predicted increase in donations(McCarthy). Along those lines, it is known that blood can expire and have a limited shelf life[90], making it essential for donors to continuously donate blood.
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Sass, R. (2013). Toward a More Stable Blood Supply: Charitable Incentives, Donation Rates, and the Experience of September 11. American Journal of Bioethics, 13(6), 38–45. https://doi-org.rcbc.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/15265161.2013.781703
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Plans on the article:
will research donor benefits
history of blood donation should be included here (maybe the pre-modern world too)
section on why/why people don't donate
-major events that affected the blood donated in a population at a time (times of crisis)
Bibliography (possible articles that I will use) (I have more but I lost it when I logged out)
Karki, Surendra, et al. “Completeness and Accuracy of Self-Reported History of Blood Donation: Results from a Cohort of Older Adults in Australia.” Transfusion, vol. 59, Jan. 2019, pp. 26–31. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/trf.14986.
Pruszczyk, Katarzyna, et al. “Prior Blood Donations Do Not Affect Efficacy of G‐CSF Mobilization nor Outcomes of Haematopoietic Stem Cell Collection in Healthy Donors.” Vox Sanguinis, vol. 114, no. 6, Aug. 2019, pp. 622–627. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/vox.12816.
Patel, Eshan U., et al. “Sociodemographic and Behavioral Characteristics Associated with Blood Donation in the United States: A Population-Based Study.” Transfusion, vol. 59, no. 9, Sept. 2019, pp. 2899–2907. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/trf.15415.
Clackett, Shawn, et al. “Attitudes and Willingness to Donate Blood among Gay and Bisexual Men in Australia.” Transfusion, vol. 60, no. 5, May 2020, pp. 965–973. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1111/trf.15768. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannah Stevenson ( talk • contribs) 03:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
The current description is incomplete. Currently it's having blood drawn voluntarily. That's phlebotomy, if it's any single word. Blood donation is actually having blood drawn for medical use as a treatment, including either transfusion or creation of pharmaceuticals. Is that too long? IAmNitpicking ( talk) 02:03, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Hb blood level < 13 g/dL reduced the antibody response by 63% (p=0.04).
https://journals.lww.com/transplantjournal/Abstract/9000/Humoral Respo
Good to know during covid-19 and flu season?