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Looking at what links here, "Black Widow" links to a good many different things. I made this page in response to a page about 1987 referring to the movie, which I have never watched. However, the article is a substub (and would make the B-movie bandit proud), referes to a lot of things besides this old movie, and definitely needs to be expanded. Samboy 22:51, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
human "black widows" named after the spider? I think the other way around is more likely.
(I came here looking for information about the band "black window" but I didn't find any.)
I think that "Black Widow" should redirect to the article about the spider since this is most likely the primary target of said search. Any thoughts?
Everyone in the U.S. has heard of a black widow spider, while maybe .05% have heard of this comic book series/character.
As an encyclopedia I think it would be beneficial to direct traffic to the page with the most relevance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.112.82.134 ( talk) 03:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
I know gossip blogs aren't enough to go on, but its a start. http://www.bastardly.com/2008-rihanna-bets-106-park-0620 Can't be the 2007 film, that's a casting detail, posted in 2008. 86.139.47.135 ( talk) 14:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Ad something about button spiders. Common in South Africa. I would also like it if you could insert pictures of Black Widow eggs. Have a look at the article regarding Button spiders on wiki. They have a few pictures that include eggs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.160.124.40 ( talk) 10:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Could somebody explain to me what this issue is about. It seemed like the options for various black widow spider links that Cygnis insignis were of value. I don't understand why they were undone. I tried to understand what the issues are here and I didn't succeed. I did look at the DAB style page linked to and I wasn't quite sure how it applied to what the issue was between JHunterJ & Cygnis insignis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davefoc ( talk • contribs) 03:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
...piping or redirects should not be used in disambiguation pages. This is to make it clear to the reader which article is being suggested, so that the reader remains in control of the choice of article...
It looks like JHunterJ wants to create a link based on the common name to a redirect for the common name to the actual article that is titled based on the scientific name.
Cygnis insignis prefers a style where the link is based on the article's actual title preceded by a description based on a common name.
Cygnis insignis feels that JHunterJ's idea is in violation of Wikipedia style guidelines that recommend against DAB's that use links that require redirections to work.
Assuming I understand the issue correctly and pending a response from JHunterJ, I favor Cygnis insignis's approach. I am not sure I understood this Wikipedia style recommendation but based just on my own thoughts it seems like Cygnis insignis's approach is a little neater and more straightforward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davefoc ( talk • contribs) 05:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I see that Cygnis insignis unilaterally restored his original edits. I was happy to see that. I liked his approach and didn't see the justification for changing it. It might have been nicer if there had been some sort of discussion where a consensus could have been reached, but JHunterJ didn't post on the discussion page and given that I appreciated Cynis' unilateral action and I hope this ends the editing conflict on this issue.-- Davefoc ( talk) 18:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I just edited the page to list with three Latrodectus species with the common name "_____ black widow". I thought it would help because people will be looking for one of these three species based on their location or be interested in all three.
I Forgot to sign. Weebro55 ( talk) 05:02, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No Consensus due to unclear scope of "Black Widow" (potentially refers to 3 different species). Kaldari ( talk) 03:56, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Black Widow → Black Widow (disambiguation) – Request made by user:Hutcher on 14 May 2012 using template:movenotice on the article page. Reason given "The spider is absolutely iconic and will be notable long after the rock band and comic book characters named after this spider are not" -- PBS ( talk) 14:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
The spider is absolutely iconic and will be notable long after the rock band and comic book characters named after this spider are not. I've examined the history of this article and it's a history people trying to make the spider the WP:Primary because it's natural for it to be. The current edit of the article is completely against MOS:DAB because it contains an opening sentence for a Primary without there being a Primary. It's then followed by a malformed "may also refer". To clean this up here's my plan:
For or against? -- Hutcher ( talk) 05:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Isn't there a mixed drink called a "Black Widow?": some combo of Drambuie & whiskey? 138.162.128.54 ( talk) 15:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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Looking at what links here, "Black Widow" links to a good many different things. I made this page in response to a page about 1987 referring to the movie, which I have never watched. However, the article is a substub (and would make the B-movie bandit proud), referes to a lot of things besides this old movie, and definitely needs to be expanded. Samboy 22:51, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
human "black widows" named after the spider? I think the other way around is more likely.
(I came here looking for information about the band "black window" but I didn't find any.)
I think that "Black Widow" should redirect to the article about the spider since this is most likely the primary target of said search. Any thoughts?
Everyone in the U.S. has heard of a black widow spider, while maybe .05% have heard of this comic book series/character.
As an encyclopedia I think it would be beneficial to direct traffic to the page with the most relevance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.112.82.134 ( talk) 03:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
I know gossip blogs aren't enough to go on, but its a start. http://www.bastardly.com/2008-rihanna-bets-106-park-0620 Can't be the 2007 film, that's a casting detail, posted in 2008. 86.139.47.135 ( talk) 14:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Ad something about button spiders. Common in South Africa. I would also like it if you could insert pictures of Black Widow eggs. Have a look at the article regarding Button spiders on wiki. They have a few pictures that include eggs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.160.124.40 ( talk) 10:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Could somebody explain to me what this issue is about. It seemed like the options for various black widow spider links that Cygnis insignis were of value. I don't understand why they were undone. I tried to understand what the issues are here and I didn't succeed. I did look at the DAB style page linked to and I wasn't quite sure how it applied to what the issue was between JHunterJ & Cygnis insignis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davefoc ( talk • contribs) 03:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
...piping or redirects should not be used in disambiguation pages. This is to make it clear to the reader which article is being suggested, so that the reader remains in control of the choice of article...
It looks like JHunterJ wants to create a link based on the common name to a redirect for the common name to the actual article that is titled based on the scientific name.
Cygnis insignis prefers a style where the link is based on the article's actual title preceded by a description based on a common name.
Cygnis insignis feels that JHunterJ's idea is in violation of Wikipedia style guidelines that recommend against DAB's that use links that require redirections to work.
Assuming I understand the issue correctly and pending a response from JHunterJ, I favor Cygnis insignis's approach. I am not sure I understood this Wikipedia style recommendation but based just on my own thoughts it seems like Cygnis insignis's approach is a little neater and more straightforward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davefoc ( talk • contribs) 05:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I see that Cygnis insignis unilaterally restored his original edits. I was happy to see that. I liked his approach and didn't see the justification for changing it. It might have been nicer if there had been some sort of discussion where a consensus could have been reached, but JHunterJ didn't post on the discussion page and given that I appreciated Cynis' unilateral action and I hope this ends the editing conflict on this issue.-- Davefoc ( talk) 18:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I just edited the page to list with three Latrodectus species with the common name "_____ black widow". I thought it would help because people will be looking for one of these three species based on their location or be interested in all three.
I Forgot to sign. Weebro55 ( talk) 05:02, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No Consensus due to unclear scope of "Black Widow" (potentially refers to 3 different species). Kaldari ( talk) 03:56, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
Black Widow → Black Widow (disambiguation) – Request made by user:Hutcher on 14 May 2012 using template:movenotice on the article page. Reason given "The spider is absolutely iconic and will be notable long after the rock band and comic book characters named after this spider are not" -- PBS ( talk) 14:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
The spider is absolutely iconic and will be notable long after the rock band and comic book characters named after this spider are not. I've examined the history of this article and it's a history people trying to make the spider the WP:Primary because it's natural for it to be. The current edit of the article is completely against MOS:DAB because it contains an opening sentence for a Primary without there being a Primary. It's then followed by a malformed "may also refer". To clean this up here's my plan:
For or against? -- Hutcher ( talk) 05:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Isn't there a mixed drink called a "Black Widow?": some combo of Drambuie & whiskey? 138.162.128.54 ( talk) 15:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)