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If no objections I will move the paragraph —:
The movement, bolstered by groups with similar criticisms of biological psychiatry (such as the Church of Scientology), is often labeled, sometimes derogatorily, as Anti-psychiatry. Others with an anti-psychiatry point of view do not dispute the notion that certain behavior phenotypes have an organic basis, but dispute the labeling of neurological differences as disordered and inferior (see, for example, the autism rights movement and the neurodiversity concept).
—to the main Psychiatry article, where it belongs. Reason: the Church of Scientology’s CCHR does not focus on biological psychiatry, but on psychiatry in general. — Cesar Tort 03:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I think some mention of Neuropsychiatry, and link to that article, fairly early on. Anyone agree/disagree? Neuropsychology 16:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
The last part of this section reads "Furthermore, some scientists feel that psychiatry is a light science as that there is no tangible evidence for the diagnosis of mental disorders. Thus, biological psychiatry may be the key to bring psychiatry into the realm of actual science." (After some grammatical corrections). The first sentence seems rather POV and probably a reference is needed. I am also not certasin that the expression "evidence for the diagnosis of mental disorders" is correct. -- Crusio 05:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
The quote from the journal description:
I have remove the request from the article. Rockpocke t 03:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Can we have a reliable citation supporting the claim that these journals are scholarly: "The Journal of Mind and Behavior" or "Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry"? See criticism section.-- scuro 06:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
An RfC has been created on Talk:Biopsychiatry controversy on the subject: "Is the majority viewpoint of the psychiatric profession, and particularly of the psychiatric research community, that the biopsychiatric model of psychiatry is, by and large, accepted or rejected?" Comments from editors involved in this article/project may prove useful. Hrafn Talk Stalk 06:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The removed information was purely about developmental psychobiology, not about the subheading topic. The purpose of this article is about biological psychiatry, not about developmental psychobiology. That article is the appropriate location to add such information. Joema ( talk) 15:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
calling a group of people that dislike something something a vocal minority sounds highly pov and like an attempt to downplay things. It's also a statement that cannot be verified. Added a neutrality disputed template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.180.60.103 ( talk) 21:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
The final sentence of the introduction (as stands) states that 'The field, however, is not without its critics...'. It seems only fair that, especially given Psychiatry's proclivity towards being misused for state/political control (not just in Communist states), there should be a link to Biopsychiatry controversy which indicates why this term may be misleading. Some might argue that Biological Psychiatry is the name given to try and provide Scientific credence to theories that many other Scientists would dismiss offhand as being based upon fallacious reasoning. Further, I find it difficult to imagine that there is even a single Psychiatrist who would argue that EVERY 'disorder' (note: NOT disease) within the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, has a neurobiological basis.
The whole article could be seen as an attempt by Psychiatrists to provide a Post-Hoc Justification for keeping so many people locked up in (expensive) Psychiatric institutions using tenuous Pseudo-Scientific justifications which *appear* scientific (one of which is the term Biopsychiatry). One could try to justify Quackery using the term 'Biological Quackery' to achieve the same (unconvincing) sticking plaster results. The key point to realise is the SCIENTIFICALLY based Medical Tests are often NOT used in reaching Psychiatric Diagnoses. Whereas one can objectively test for high blood pressure using a blood pressure meter, or use brain scans to find a brain tumour, such objective tests are ALMOST-NEVER used in Psychiatry. Also, we find that people often find there way into Psychiatry after engaging in criminal (including misdemeanour) acts, or even visiting Political Demonstrations.
Given Psychiatry's conflation with the misuse of power (both now and in the past) we should be concerned as to whether any attempt at Scientific justification could possibly negate the highly questionable practices of Pscyhiatry. This is perhaps a criticism of practice and not theory - Scientists and Doctors are held to high ethical standards (say, to make sure that they don't make-up results), why shouldn't Psychiatrists be held to those same standards?
I will be making a minor modication to the introduction to refer people to the Biopsychiatry controversy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ASavantDude ( talk • contribs) 14:33, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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If no objections I will move the paragraph —:
The movement, bolstered by groups with similar criticisms of biological psychiatry (such as the Church of Scientology), is often labeled, sometimes derogatorily, as Anti-psychiatry. Others with an anti-psychiatry point of view do not dispute the notion that certain behavior phenotypes have an organic basis, but dispute the labeling of neurological differences as disordered and inferior (see, for example, the autism rights movement and the neurodiversity concept).
—to the main Psychiatry article, where it belongs. Reason: the Church of Scientology’s CCHR does not focus on biological psychiatry, but on psychiatry in general. — Cesar Tort 03:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I think some mention of Neuropsychiatry, and link to that article, fairly early on. Anyone agree/disagree? Neuropsychology 16:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
The last part of this section reads "Furthermore, some scientists feel that psychiatry is a light science as that there is no tangible evidence for the diagnosis of mental disorders. Thus, biological psychiatry may be the key to bring psychiatry into the realm of actual science." (After some grammatical corrections). The first sentence seems rather POV and probably a reference is needed. I am also not certasin that the expression "evidence for the diagnosis of mental disorders" is correct. -- Crusio 05:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
The quote from the journal description:
I have remove the request from the article. Rockpocke t 03:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Can we have a reliable citation supporting the claim that these journals are scholarly: "The Journal of Mind and Behavior" or "Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry"? See criticism section.-- scuro 06:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
An RfC has been created on Talk:Biopsychiatry controversy on the subject: "Is the majority viewpoint of the psychiatric profession, and particularly of the psychiatric research community, that the biopsychiatric model of psychiatry is, by and large, accepted or rejected?" Comments from editors involved in this article/project may prove useful. Hrafn Talk Stalk 06:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The removed information was purely about developmental psychobiology, not about the subheading topic. The purpose of this article is about biological psychiatry, not about developmental psychobiology. That article is the appropriate location to add such information. Joema ( talk) 15:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
calling a group of people that dislike something something a vocal minority sounds highly pov and like an attempt to downplay things. It's also a statement that cannot be verified. Added a neutrality disputed template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.180.60.103 ( talk) 21:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
The final sentence of the introduction (as stands) states that 'The field, however, is not without its critics...'. It seems only fair that, especially given Psychiatry's proclivity towards being misused for state/political control (not just in Communist states), there should be a link to Biopsychiatry controversy which indicates why this term may be misleading. Some might argue that Biological Psychiatry is the name given to try and provide Scientific credence to theories that many other Scientists would dismiss offhand as being based upon fallacious reasoning. Further, I find it difficult to imagine that there is even a single Psychiatrist who would argue that EVERY 'disorder' (note: NOT disease) within the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition, has a neurobiological basis.
The whole article could be seen as an attempt by Psychiatrists to provide a Post-Hoc Justification for keeping so many people locked up in (expensive) Psychiatric institutions using tenuous Pseudo-Scientific justifications which *appear* scientific (one of which is the term Biopsychiatry). One could try to justify Quackery using the term 'Biological Quackery' to achieve the same (unconvincing) sticking plaster results. The key point to realise is the SCIENTIFICALLY based Medical Tests are often NOT used in reaching Psychiatric Diagnoses. Whereas one can objectively test for high blood pressure using a blood pressure meter, or use brain scans to find a brain tumour, such objective tests are ALMOST-NEVER used in Psychiatry. Also, we find that people often find there way into Psychiatry after engaging in criminal (including misdemeanour) acts, or even visiting Political Demonstrations.
Given Psychiatry's conflation with the misuse of power (both now and in the past) we should be concerned as to whether any attempt at Scientific justification could possibly negate the highly questionable practices of Pscyhiatry. This is perhaps a criticism of practice and not theory - Scientists and Doctors are held to high ethical standards (say, to make sure that they don't make-up results), why shouldn't Psychiatrists be held to those same standards?
I will be making a minor modication to the introduction to refer people to the Biopsychiatry controversy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ASavantDude ( talk • contribs) 14:33, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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