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According to this dissertation (see link) written by Carol Siri Johnson © 2003, there are many details left out or inconsistent with what is listed here in Wiki. I am not interested in fixing these myself. Anyone interested in more information on this amazina author, Betty Smith, should read the attached link. And by the way, Joy in the Morning is a wonderful, endearing story.
http://web.njit.edu/~cjohnson/tree/bio/wm.htm 71.127.170.45 ( talk) 18:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
The lead should always start with the name Betty Smith, as that is the woman's actual name by marriage and the name she used in her writings and up until her death. The leads of almost all articles on famous women, as well as many men, use the name by which the person is known for. For example, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Reagan, Cary Grant, Barbara Stanwyck, Pearl Buck, Patricia Cornwell, and thousands and thousands of others. It would be strikingly odd to have Michelle Obama's lead read "Michelle LaVaughn Robinson (born January 17, 1964), better known as Michelle Obama...." The Betty Smith article should be no different. Betty Smith is name she used and the name she is known by. And despite two subsequent marriages, she kept the surname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGrayLion ( talk • contribs) 20:25, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Shall we make a list of ways to improve this article now that the lead is in shape? :) The article as it is now is unworthy of one of the most important fiction authors of the last century. I would like to see it get at least "
good article" status. Ahem, @
TheGrayLion:
There is scant information on:
*her middle two books
*her writing career outside of novels and plays
*awards won or nominated
*her personal life
*her legacy
What else is missing?
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DiamondRemley39 (
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23:09, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
This article previously cited the Hopwood Award coming "with the award, Smith received either $1,000 or $1,500 sources differ..." While the Obituary in the New York Times cites the awards as $1,500, biographers Yow and Siri Johnson both cite the Hopwood sum as $1,000 (Yow, page 63; Johnson, page 59). Added to The Michigan Daily in 1931, which cites $1,000, it is pretty clear that the Times was in error and pointing out the differing sources is unnecessary. Mx942 ( talk) 20:56, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
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According to this dissertation (see link) written by Carol Siri Johnson © 2003, there are many details left out or inconsistent with what is listed here in Wiki. I am not interested in fixing these myself. Anyone interested in more information on this amazina author, Betty Smith, should read the attached link. And by the way, Joy in the Morning is a wonderful, endearing story.
http://web.njit.edu/~cjohnson/tree/bio/wm.htm 71.127.170.45 ( talk) 18:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
The lead should always start with the name Betty Smith, as that is the woman's actual name by marriage and the name she used in her writings and up until her death. The leads of almost all articles on famous women, as well as many men, use the name by which the person is known for. For example, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Reagan, Cary Grant, Barbara Stanwyck, Pearl Buck, Patricia Cornwell, and thousands and thousands of others. It would be strikingly odd to have Michelle Obama's lead read "Michelle LaVaughn Robinson (born January 17, 1964), better known as Michelle Obama...." The Betty Smith article should be no different. Betty Smith is name she used and the name she is known by. And despite two subsequent marriages, she kept the surname. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGrayLion ( talk • contribs) 20:25, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Shall we make a list of ways to improve this article now that the lead is in shape? :) The article as it is now is unworthy of one of the most important fiction authors of the last century. I would like to see it get at least "
good article" status. Ahem, @
TheGrayLion:
There is scant information on:
*her middle two books
*her writing career outside of novels and plays
*awards won or nominated
*her personal life
*her legacy
What else is missing?
--
DiamondRemley39 (
talk)
23:09, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
This article previously cited the Hopwood Award coming "with the award, Smith received either $1,000 or $1,500 sources differ..." While the Obituary in the New York Times cites the awards as $1,500, biographers Yow and Siri Johnson both cite the Hopwood sum as $1,000 (Yow, page 63; Johnson, page 59). Added to The Michigan Daily in 1931, which cites $1,000, it is pretty clear that the Times was in error and pointing out the differing sources is unnecessary. Mx942 ( talk) 20:56, 23 February 2023 (UTC)