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On Bethel Music's official page for their artist collective, I can't find any mention of either Joe Volk or Jerardo Paz. I have removed the names twice, but they keep reappearing. Joe Volk, according to my research, is a drummer for Bethel Music, but is not a member of the Collective. Since no other drummer is mentioned in the Members section, his name probably should not be mentioned, since, as far as I can tell, he's not an official member of Bethel Music. I cannot find any information on Jerardo Paz. If you would like to replace his name, please put in a citation so that everyone can know where the information is coming from.
Also, I feel that William Matthews should be stated under the 'Past' heading, since he is officially no longer a part of the collective according to a press release by Bethel Music ( https://bethelmusic.com/press-releases/).
Thanks -- MissSG ( talk) 19:28, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
I added the POV template to the article due its none neutral tone. Which heavily relies on quotes from album reviews that say things like "This is an album that simply soars above the rest... Every track holds a different aspect of beauty...flawless" that clearly are not neutral. In order to remove the template, either discuss the POV here until a consensus is reached or edit the article in a way for it to be more neutral. If know one else re-writes it to be neutral, I eventually will or file a complaint if I am undermined from doing so. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 19:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
This text:
"Bethel Music issued a press release announcing that they and longtime member William Matthews had agreed that William would no longer be a part of the Bethel Music Collective.[5][6] Just days later, it was announced that Sean Feucht would officially join the artist collective of Bethel Church."
reads to me as if it's implying that there was something negative about Matthews' departure, or that his departure and Feucht's inclusion were somehow related to each other. If the two facts aren't meant to be connected, I suggest changing the "just days later" phrasing. Inhumandecency ( talk) 19:57, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
This article seems to be about two separate subjects, Bethel Music (a music label) and Bethel Music Collective (a musical ensemble). There's also mention of the "artist collective of Bethel Church," Whatever that is. Some artists mentioned in the article are Bethel Music artist but not in the Bethel Music Collective, but from how the article is written it's really not clear who is and who isn't, or what the difference is. For instance in the events and tours section is it the label or the musical ensemble that's touring? Record labels don't really tour, artists from labels do, but it's not necessary worthy of mention in an article about the label. The label and music collective are used interchangeably throughout the article in that way. What the company does that is worth mention is different from what the musical group does. The inclusion of events for both subjects are not automatically a given just because they are semi associated. Especially considering it's not clear which the article is about. Really, they are different topics, with their own subjects worth writing about, notability, etc. So they should just have separate articles. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 15:47, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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On Bethel Music's official page for their artist collective, I can't find any mention of either Joe Volk or Jerardo Paz. I have removed the names twice, but they keep reappearing. Joe Volk, according to my research, is a drummer for Bethel Music, but is not a member of the Collective. Since no other drummer is mentioned in the Members section, his name probably should not be mentioned, since, as far as I can tell, he's not an official member of Bethel Music. I cannot find any information on Jerardo Paz. If you would like to replace his name, please put in a citation so that everyone can know where the information is coming from.
Also, I feel that William Matthews should be stated under the 'Past' heading, since he is officially no longer a part of the collective according to a press release by Bethel Music ( https://bethelmusic.com/press-releases/).
Thanks -- MissSG ( talk) 19:28, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
I added the POV template to the article due its none neutral tone. Which heavily relies on quotes from album reviews that say things like "This is an album that simply soars above the rest... Every track holds a different aspect of beauty...flawless" that clearly are not neutral. In order to remove the template, either discuss the POV here until a consensus is reached or edit the article in a way for it to be more neutral. If know one else re-writes it to be neutral, I eventually will or file a complaint if I am undermined from doing so. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 19:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
This text:
"Bethel Music issued a press release announcing that they and longtime member William Matthews had agreed that William would no longer be a part of the Bethel Music Collective.[5][6] Just days later, it was announced that Sean Feucht would officially join the artist collective of Bethel Church."
reads to me as if it's implying that there was something negative about Matthews' departure, or that his departure and Feucht's inclusion were somehow related to each other. If the two facts aren't meant to be connected, I suggest changing the "just days later" phrasing. Inhumandecency ( talk) 19:57, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
This article seems to be about two separate subjects, Bethel Music (a music label) and Bethel Music Collective (a musical ensemble). There's also mention of the "artist collective of Bethel Church," Whatever that is. Some artists mentioned in the article are Bethel Music artist but not in the Bethel Music Collective, but from how the article is written it's really not clear who is and who isn't, or what the difference is. For instance in the events and tours section is it the label or the musical ensemble that's touring? Record labels don't really tour, artists from labels do, but it's not necessary worthy of mention in an article about the label. The label and music collective are used interchangeably throughout the article in that way. What the company does that is worth mention is different from what the musical group does. The inclusion of events for both subjects are not automatically a given just because they are semi associated. Especially considering it's not clear which the article is about. Really, they are different topics, with their own subjects worth writing about, notability, etc. So they should just have separate articles. -- Adamant1 ( talk) 15:47, 1 April 2020 (UTC)