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I am willing to scream "false, false, false", as the only other plausible account is that a reasonable reader will infer too much in reading the editor's intent, as i have done; in that case the editor was reckless even if not technically in error. In fact, a probable example is the statement on tonite's broadcast of
Says You!' that "You can't get there from here" originated from Dodge's work.
I'm working on finding the scholarly sources (the death in 1884 of
the greatest star of
Kit, the Arkansas Traveller is a lead twd hard evidence of earlier origination), and;
Catherine Marshall Vineyard's thesis is likely to push it back much further. It's also unlikely that
Jimmie Driftwood (1907–1998) started including that line to his recordings of the fiddle-piece/dialogue act after 1950.
--
Jerzy•
t 04:12 & 07:35, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Dubiousness of the origination of some stock phrases aside, the claim of origination of "can't get there from here" is clearly mistaken, and the rest of the paragraph falls apart without the example to unite it.
On the principle of preserving as much of the material as is practical, i'm breaking up the 'graph, without prejudice to claims that more material should be removed: i don't care to try to make the case for removals, and welcome colleagues to hash that out. I'm probably going end up removing the dubious tag (on reflection it was the juxtaposition of a generalization with a suspect example that was dubious; i consider the example disproven and the generalization now screaming for scholarly verification that may or not include a different, and verifiable, example.
--
Jerzy•
t
09:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
I've never heard more than, maybe, one or two sketches in recorded form, and that may be why i was surprised by the language implying there was no Bluebird 3: having already been prepared with a sketch where Bluebird gets destroyed due to a bizarre chain of bad operational decisions, starting a sketch with
practically guarantees this audience-disinhibiting train of thot:
But with a recording, the many small audiences don't hear each other, and i suspect a performer polished enuf to get that timing right wouldn't waste that line on the dead audiences, but save it for live performances only.
Of course, i'm just speculating about
so we need research to confirm any such pattern, and locate interviews or professional analyses of his style that support my armchair theory.
--
Jerzy•
t
07:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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We have
I am willing to scream "false, false, false", as the only other plausible account is that a reasonable reader will infer too much in reading the editor's intent, as i have done; in that case the editor was reckless even if not technically in error. In fact, a probable example is the statement on tonite's broadcast of
Says You!' that "You can't get there from here" originated from Dodge's work.
I'm working on finding the scholarly sources (the death in 1884 of
the greatest star of
Kit, the Arkansas Traveller is a lead twd hard evidence of earlier origination), and;
Catherine Marshall Vineyard's thesis is likely to push it back much further. It's also unlikely that
Jimmie Driftwood (1907–1998) started including that line to his recordings of the fiddle-piece/dialogue act after 1950.
--
Jerzy•
t 04:12 & 07:35, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Dubiousness of the origination of some stock phrases aside, the claim of origination of "can't get there from here" is clearly mistaken, and the rest of the paragraph falls apart without the example to unite it.
On the principle of preserving as much of the material as is practical, i'm breaking up the 'graph, without prejudice to claims that more material should be removed: i don't care to try to make the case for removals, and welcome colleagues to hash that out. I'm probably going end up removing the dubious tag (on reflection it was the juxtaposition of a generalization with a suspect example that was dubious; i consider the example disproven and the generalization now screaming for scholarly verification that may or not include a different, and verifiable, example.
--
Jerzy•
t
09:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
I've never heard more than, maybe, one or two sketches in recorded form, and that may be why i was surprised by the language implying there was no Bluebird 3: having already been prepared with a sketch where Bluebird gets destroyed due to a bizarre chain of bad operational decisions, starting a sketch with
practically guarantees this audience-disinhibiting train of thot:
But with a recording, the many small audiences don't hear each other, and i suspect a performer polished enuf to get that timing right wouldn't waste that line on the dead audiences, but save it for live performances only.
Of course, i'm just speculating about
so we need research to confirm any such pattern, and locate interviews or professional analyses of his style that support my armchair theory.
--
Jerzy•
t
07:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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