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I propose to merge Parastu 14 into Beechcraft Bonanza. I think that the content in the Parastu 14 article can easily be explained in the context of Beechcraft Bonanza, particularly as it is an un-licensed copy of the Bonanza. Petebutt ( talk) 19:54, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
As much as I know/search, there doesn't seem to be specific source(s) to show/prove this claim of " an un-licensed copy of the Beechcraft F33 Bonanza..." and I presume that we cannot merge the article without having reliable related sources" ... Anyhow; all diverse views are appreciated. Ali Ahwazi ( talk) 07:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Subsequent analysis of National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) accident records between 1962 and 2007 revealed an average of three V-tail structural failures per year, while the conventional-tailed Bonanza 33 and 36 suffered only eleven such failures during the same time period.
Does this actually mean anything? Were the Model 33 and Model 35 built in the same numbers? I assumed the V-tail was far more common than the conventional tail. The total numbers of aircraft effected doesn't matter, it is the number effected proportional to the units built. The numbers suggest that the V-tail does in fact have a higher proportional failure rate, but one shouldn't assume such things. Perhaps V tails were built in the thousands, and Model 33s in the dozens. It is like saying that "last year there were 10,000 engine failures by Toyota Corollas, but only 150 engine failures among Alfa Romeos, therefore the Toyota Corolla is less reliable than an Alfa". There are also many, many times as many Corollas in existence.
64.222.152.192 ( talk) 13:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Articles about aircraft, boats, cars, and other vehicles should always include pricing information. What is the standard retail price, citing a recent year?
Also, what are the range of prices for used aircraft?
Operating costs would also be useful, but are not essential.
This article would also benefit from at least an estimate of how many of the 17,000 planes are still in service. Davidcay ( talk) 00:48, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
An article should not include product pricing or availability information (which can vary widely with time and location) unless there is an independent source and encyclopedic significance for the mention, which may be indicated by mainstream media sources or books (not just product reviews) provide commentary on these details instead of just passing mention. Wikipedia is not a price comparison service to compare prices and availability of competing products or a single product from different vendors.
Does anyone else notice the similarities between the Bonanza's wing and the famed P-51's wings? Taffy boeing b 17 ( talk) 18:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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I propose to merge Parastu 14 into Beechcraft Bonanza. I think that the content in the Parastu 14 article can easily be explained in the context of Beechcraft Bonanza, particularly as it is an un-licensed copy of the Bonanza. Petebutt ( talk) 19:54, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
As much as I know/search, there doesn't seem to be specific source(s) to show/prove this claim of " an un-licensed copy of the Beechcraft F33 Bonanza..." and I presume that we cannot merge the article without having reliable related sources" ... Anyhow; all diverse views are appreciated. Ali Ahwazi ( talk) 07:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Subsequent analysis of National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) accident records between 1962 and 2007 revealed an average of three V-tail structural failures per year, while the conventional-tailed Bonanza 33 and 36 suffered only eleven such failures during the same time period.
Does this actually mean anything? Were the Model 33 and Model 35 built in the same numbers? I assumed the V-tail was far more common than the conventional tail. The total numbers of aircraft effected doesn't matter, it is the number effected proportional to the units built. The numbers suggest that the V-tail does in fact have a higher proportional failure rate, but one shouldn't assume such things. Perhaps V tails were built in the thousands, and Model 33s in the dozens. It is like saying that "last year there were 10,000 engine failures by Toyota Corollas, but only 150 engine failures among Alfa Romeos, therefore the Toyota Corolla is less reliable than an Alfa". There are also many, many times as many Corollas in existence.
64.222.152.192 ( talk) 13:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Articles about aircraft, boats, cars, and other vehicles should always include pricing information. What is the standard retail price, citing a recent year?
Also, what are the range of prices for used aircraft?
Operating costs would also be useful, but are not essential.
This article would also benefit from at least an estimate of how many of the 17,000 planes are still in service. Davidcay ( talk) 00:48, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
An article should not include product pricing or availability information (which can vary widely with time and location) unless there is an independent source and encyclopedic significance for the mention, which may be indicated by mainstream media sources or books (not just product reviews) provide commentary on these details instead of just passing mention. Wikipedia is not a price comparison service to compare prices and availability of competing products or a single product from different vendors.
Does anyone else notice the similarities between the Bonanza's wing and the famed P-51's wings? Taffy boeing b 17 ( talk) 18:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)