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Why is there no mention of beards and the relationship to the UNIX and open source? No picture of Richard Stallman? Boo! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.125.133 ( talk) 04:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Who is Richard Stallman? And what does this have to do with beards?-- GlennSoupp ( talk) 17:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
LOL you forgot to mention beards and their effect on women too, —Preceding
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137.30.200.53 (
talk) 08:24, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I second both the Unix and "effect on women" sections. For the women's part, we need to add the story about Lincoln's beard - superb tale 137.30.122.155 ( talk) 05:37, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I seriously think people are trying way too freakin' hard not to be racist. We have this Nepali man featured, probably only because you don't want to be associated with "whiter power" and all that bullcrap. Guess what. It's moronic. Why feature this Napali? Chances are, a non-Nepali added that picture. It's okay to display white people... By trying so hard not to be racist, you're kind of excluding white people from the game here. It's just like with the page for "humans"; it features two Asian farmers. Come on, guys...this is ridiculous. We all know Asian farmers didn't add that picture. It's okay to be white. Swiiman ( talk) 06:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
The picture makes perfect sense because if you look at the percentage of people with beards, there are more Asians who are bearded. Who was the last US pres. with a beard? Abe Lincoln!
Besides, that old guy's beard rocks! And that's his only claim to fame. 137.30.200.53 ( talk) 08:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm removing the section on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Since there is no actual proscription, the unsourced tendencies of church members aren't notable. Any objections? Mateoee ( talk) 02:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I removed Henry Thoreau from the Neckbeard part of Beard Styles, as he is pictured in the Chinstrap beard article. I think his beard is a chinstrap beard, not a neckbeard (the statue of Nero would probably be the archetype). Frankly, I think nobody should be listed in the "beard styles" section due to the difficulty in authoritatively classifying one style of beard from another, but I'm not going to make that call. I only took Thoreau out for internal consistency. 151.207.244.4 ( talk) 19:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there really a need to list famous people with beards? Beards are fairly common today and were even more common at some points in history - its like a list of people with brown hair or people who wear T-shirts. I'm in favour of removing the list or changing it to a short one for people who were famous for their beards. 137.132.250.10 ( talk) 13:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
The Language of the Beard - Poets Ranked by Beard Weight was heavily linked via blogs, in summer 2009. Can anyone confirm the existence of this pamphlet he describes, and add it to the article? There's nothing in google scholar/books. -- Quiddity ( talk) 19:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
this is the greatest wiki page I've ever seen there should be something to distinguish it
It says 2-day stubble, but this appears extremely unlikely. It looks like a week's growth or even more. Exploding Boy ( talk) 22:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Regarding the prohibition of commercial pilots having beards, this cannot be correct. I know several Jewish Orthodox EL AL pilots who have fully grown untrimmed beards. From my own service in the IDF with a fully grown beard, I was also told by less informed ranks that I would have to trim my beard for operations involving gas masks, and this was not the case. It may have been an issue in the past, however it's no longer an issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.176.216.211 ( talk) 00:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
'The name means something like "two-bearded, woody".' Really? Something like? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.241.87.213 ( talk) 01:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
(Whatever that means)
The gallery is wild grown and doesn't provide any real information, just a meaningless extra loading time. I prefer it is replaced with some information about how different genetics and cultures affect the status of beards. Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 10:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
There are a bunch of quotations of beards. Shouldn't they be on wikiquotes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.10.116.109 ( talk) 17:45, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I think beards protect the underlying skin a little. And can someone find out more pro-beard stuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.30.200.53 ( talk) 08:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
This section is based on a single source which and is entirely undue. It will be removed in due course unless robust sourcing is provided, including excerpts which illustrate that the sources discuss the topic broadly as opposed to in passing. aprock ( talk) 21:29, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Unless you can establish that the views described in the section you added are held by more than extremely small minority, it will be removed per WP:UNDUE. Are you prepared to affirm that the source you cite does in fact indicate that the view is held by more than an extremely small minority? aprock ( talk) 22:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Mirardre, The reference is to a single journal paper. If this is a common view, then it should be easy to add more references. This would be a pretty straightforward way of ending this argument, rather than insisting on the same point repeatedly as you are attempting. As it is, it does seem to be a minority viewpoint being overplayed here. Aprock, don't be a dick. This would have been a lot quicker and easier if you had approached the issue civilly. siafu ( talk) 23:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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Miradre (
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Please see the RfC below, and at least make an effort to locate secondary sources. A mountain of primary sourcing in a universe of published research means little. aprock ( talk) 23:28, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Question: Should the section Beard#Evolutionary_psychology_explanations_for_existence_of_beards be included in this article, or it be removed per WP:UNDUE?
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link)Miradre ( talk) 23:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC) Here is yet another: New Zealand Science Review, Darwin Commemorative Issue, Vol 66 (3) 2009. Page 115. Miradre ( talk) 23:40, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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link)Miradre ( talk) 00:10, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
One post by me is not a consensus, and it's a bit off to quote my post as part of a character critique. I refer you to my previous statement, directed at you. This does not have an antagonistic situation. aprock, since you listed this an RfC, perhaps it might be a good idea to cool it and wait for the comment that you requested to come in? siafu ( talk) 00:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
The Greek etymology bit didn't really belong in the lead and it didn't fit into any of the existing sections either, so I removed it. If someone wants to find a way to include it in an appropriate context, go ahead. -- KFP ( contact - edits) 17:41, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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Archive 1 | Archive 2 |
Why is there no mention of beards and the relationship to the UNIX and open source? No picture of Richard Stallman? Boo! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.125.133 ( talk) 04:49, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Who is Richard Stallman? And what does this have to do with beards?-- GlennSoupp ( talk) 17:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
LOL you forgot to mention beards and their effect on women too, —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
137.30.200.53 (
talk) 08:24, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I second both the Unix and "effect on women" sections. For the women's part, we need to add the story about Lincoln's beard - superb tale 137.30.122.155 ( talk) 05:37, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I seriously think people are trying way too freakin' hard not to be racist. We have this Nepali man featured, probably only because you don't want to be associated with "whiter power" and all that bullcrap. Guess what. It's moronic. Why feature this Napali? Chances are, a non-Nepali added that picture. It's okay to display white people... By trying so hard not to be racist, you're kind of excluding white people from the game here. It's just like with the page for "humans"; it features two Asian farmers. Come on, guys...this is ridiculous. We all know Asian farmers didn't add that picture. It's okay to be white. Swiiman ( talk) 06:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
The picture makes perfect sense because if you look at the percentage of people with beards, there are more Asians who are bearded. Who was the last US pres. with a beard? Abe Lincoln!
Besides, that old guy's beard rocks! And that's his only claim to fame. 137.30.200.53 ( talk) 08:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm removing the section on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Since there is no actual proscription, the unsourced tendencies of church members aren't notable. Any objections? Mateoee ( talk) 02:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I removed Henry Thoreau from the Neckbeard part of Beard Styles, as he is pictured in the Chinstrap beard article. I think his beard is a chinstrap beard, not a neckbeard (the statue of Nero would probably be the archetype). Frankly, I think nobody should be listed in the "beard styles" section due to the difficulty in authoritatively classifying one style of beard from another, but I'm not going to make that call. I only took Thoreau out for internal consistency. 151.207.244.4 ( talk) 19:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Is there really a need to list famous people with beards? Beards are fairly common today and were even more common at some points in history - its like a list of people with brown hair or people who wear T-shirts. I'm in favour of removing the list or changing it to a short one for people who were famous for their beards. 137.132.250.10 ( talk) 13:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
The Language of the Beard - Poets Ranked by Beard Weight was heavily linked via blogs, in summer 2009. Can anyone confirm the existence of this pamphlet he describes, and add it to the article? There's nothing in google scholar/books. -- Quiddity ( talk) 19:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
this is the greatest wiki page I've ever seen there should be something to distinguish it
It says 2-day stubble, but this appears extremely unlikely. It looks like a week's growth or even more. Exploding Boy ( talk) 22:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Regarding the prohibition of commercial pilots having beards, this cannot be correct. I know several Jewish Orthodox EL AL pilots who have fully grown untrimmed beards. From my own service in the IDF with a fully grown beard, I was also told by less informed ranks that I would have to trim my beard for operations involving gas masks, and this was not the case. It may have been an issue in the past, however it's no longer an issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.176.216.211 ( talk) 00:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
'The name means something like "two-bearded, woody".' Really? Something like? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.241.87.213 ( talk) 01:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
(Whatever that means)
The gallery is wild grown and doesn't provide any real information, just a meaningless extra loading time. I prefer it is replaced with some information about how different genetics and cultures affect the status of beards. Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 10:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
There are a bunch of quotations of beards. Shouldn't they be on wikiquotes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.10.116.109 ( talk) 17:45, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I think beards protect the underlying skin a little. And can someone find out more pro-beard stuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.30.200.53 ( talk) 08:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
This section is based on a single source which and is entirely undue. It will be removed in due course unless robust sourcing is provided, including excerpts which illustrate that the sources discuss the topic broadly as opposed to in passing. aprock ( talk) 21:29, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Unless you can establish that the views described in the section you added are held by more than extremely small minority, it will be removed per WP:UNDUE. Are you prepared to affirm that the source you cite does in fact indicate that the view is held by more than an extremely small minority? aprock ( talk) 22:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Mirardre, The reference is to a single journal paper. If this is a common view, then it should be easy to add more references. This would be a pretty straightforward way of ending this argument, rather than insisting on the same point repeatedly as you are attempting. As it is, it does seem to be a minority viewpoint being overplayed here. Aprock, don't be a dick. This would have been a lot quicker and easier if you had approached the issue civilly. siafu ( talk) 23:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
{{
cite journal}}
: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (
link)
Miradre (
talk) 23:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Please see the RfC below, and at least make an effort to locate secondary sources. A mountain of primary sourcing in a universe of published research means little. aprock ( talk) 23:28, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Question: Should the section Beard#Evolutionary_psychology_explanations_for_existence_of_beards be included in this article, or it be removed per WP:UNDUE?
{{
cite journal}}
: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (
link)Miradre ( talk) 23:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC) Here is yet another: New Zealand Science Review, Darwin Commemorative Issue, Vol 66 (3) 2009. Page 115. Miradre ( talk) 23:40, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
{{
cite journal}}
: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (
link)Miradre ( talk) 00:10, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
One post by me is not a consensus, and it's a bit off to quote my post as part of a character critique. I refer you to my previous statement, directed at you. This does not have an antagonistic situation. aprock, since you listed this an RfC, perhaps it might be a good idea to cool it and wait for the comment that you requested to come in? siafu ( talk) 00:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
The Greek etymology bit didn't really belong in the lead and it didn't fit into any of the existing sections either, so I removed it. If someone wants to find a way to include it in an appropriate context, go ahead. -- KFP ( contact - edits) 17:41, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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