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Happy to review this article. I notice you are (as of the end of March) on a Wikibreak—please let me know when you are ready to start working with me on the review. AM
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Amitchell125: Hey Amitchell125! I am available to assist with any questions from the review anytime. My userpage says partial Wikibreak only because I am going to be active for roughly an hour a day. That said, I am available to respond to questions that arise from the GA review. Cheers and thank you for being willing to review the article! (Courtesy pinging @
SaintPaulOfTarsus as they also contributed a ton to the article after the GAN was started.) The
Weather Event Writer (
Talk Page)22:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
WeatherWriter: Thank you. Your ping here reminded me of the discussion we had above in February, where I said I would let you know once I was done adding content to the article. Unfortunately offline life took priority and I never ended up making some of my intended edits, and probably will not do so for a while – I foresee another wikibreak in my near future. But I wanted to return the courtesy and make you aware that there is some information I plan on adding sometime in the future (nothing groundbreaking, just supplementary), as long as it can be done in a manner that doesn't jeopardize this nomination process.
SaintPaulOfTarsus (
talk)
23:54, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
a large Russian force – large is a redundant word here, and so can be removed.
by Ukrainian military expert Serhii Hrabskyi – is unnecessary, and i would remove it.
the town of Chaplynka – Chaplynka is much smaller than a town.
for the city's defense - should be ‘for the defense of Kherson’ (as it has not yet been introduced).
The Kherson International Airport - simply ‘Kherson International Airport’?
Thereafter – ‘Afterwards’ sounds slightly less formal.
nearby makes no sense in this context.
Antonivka links to a set index page, to the actual village, so the link needs to be replaced.
of the Territorial Defense Forces.[13][5] – not GA, but it is normal practice to have references in numerical order (this happens here and in other places in the article).
1.2 Battle for the Antonivka Road Bridge
Dup link - Antonivka.
8 kilometers – all distances need to be in both km and miles (if not already done), use
Template:Convert.
the city of Mykolaiv - this needs to be moved to where Mykolaiv is first introduced in the section.
I would simplify ...Russia had its agents infiltrated into the Ukrainian security forces.… to ‘Russia had its agents infiltrated into the Ukrainian security forces’.
SBU should be unabbreviated.
4.2 Significance
Some of the information in this section sounds obscure. El País – why is it notable that this newspaper described the defeat in this way? Is there a more general consensus that this is the case? Why is the information about the ‘measured spike in bots’ important enough to include here?
I would query including Pavel Filatyev here. He is not particularly related to the article (see
MOS:ALSO).
6 References
Ref 60 (Smart) has an error message.
What makes you think Ref 20 (Twitter) is a reliable source? (see
WP:USERG).
Ref 23 (Daily Sabah) has a [better source needed] tag.
Strictly speaking the following is outside the scope of a GA review (as long as the references can be accessed and are relevant), but for GA the format used should be consistent (
MOS:REFERENCES). Some points to consider:
Ref 3 (Pavel Fitalyev) does not have the surname put before the first name.
Avoid using Ukrainian text (e.g. Ref 5 (Рєуцький, Костянтин)), but include it where the words are also in English (e.g. "Вони встали за Херсон. Історії оборонців вільного міста" should read something like "Вони встали за Херсон. Історії оборонців вільного міста" ("They stood up for Kherson. Stories of the defenders of the free city").
Where articles are not in English, the language has not always been given (e.g. Ref 13 (Ukrainska Pravda)).
Ref 14 (The Kyiv Independent) – link the newspaper.
The numerous quotes take up quite a lot of space and are not applied in a consistent way. Are they really needed?
(not GA) Ref 38 (Landry) has (News article), which is not needed.
7 External links
Could this source not be incorporated into the article?
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Happy to review this article. I notice you are (as of the end of March) on a Wikibreak—please let me know when you are ready to start working with me on the review. AM
@
Amitchell125: Hey Amitchell125! I am available to assist with any questions from the review anytime. My userpage says partial Wikibreak only because I am going to be active for roughly an hour a day. That said, I am available to respond to questions that arise from the GA review. Cheers and thank you for being willing to review the article! (Courtesy pinging @
SaintPaulOfTarsus as they also contributed a ton to the article after the GAN was started.) The
Weather Event Writer (
Talk Page)22:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
WeatherWriter: Thank you. Your ping here reminded me of the discussion we had above in February, where I said I would let you know once I was done adding content to the article. Unfortunately offline life took priority and I never ended up making some of my intended edits, and probably will not do so for a while – I foresee another wikibreak in my near future. But I wanted to return the courtesy and make you aware that there is some information I plan on adding sometime in the future (nothing groundbreaking, just supplementary), as long as it can be done in a manner that doesn't jeopardize this nomination process.
SaintPaulOfTarsus (
talk)
23:54, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply
a large Russian force – large is a redundant word here, and so can be removed.
by Ukrainian military expert Serhii Hrabskyi – is unnecessary, and i would remove it.
the town of Chaplynka – Chaplynka is much smaller than a town.
for the city's defense - should be ‘for the defense of Kherson’ (as it has not yet been introduced).
The Kherson International Airport - simply ‘Kherson International Airport’?
Thereafter – ‘Afterwards’ sounds slightly less formal.
nearby makes no sense in this context.
Antonivka links to a set index page, to the actual village, so the link needs to be replaced.
of the Territorial Defense Forces.[13][5] – not GA, but it is normal practice to have references in numerical order (this happens here and in other places in the article).
1.2 Battle for the Antonivka Road Bridge
Dup link - Antonivka.
8 kilometers – all distances need to be in both km and miles (if not already done), use
Template:Convert.
the city of Mykolaiv - this needs to be moved to where Mykolaiv is first introduced in the section.
I would simplify ...Russia had its agents infiltrated into the Ukrainian security forces.… to ‘Russia had its agents infiltrated into the Ukrainian security forces’.
SBU should be unabbreviated.
4.2 Significance
Some of the information in this section sounds obscure. El País – why is it notable that this newspaper described the defeat in this way? Is there a more general consensus that this is the case? Why is the information about the ‘measured spike in bots’ important enough to include here?
I would query including Pavel Filatyev here. He is not particularly related to the article (see
MOS:ALSO).
6 References
Ref 60 (Smart) has an error message.
What makes you think Ref 20 (Twitter) is a reliable source? (see
WP:USERG).
Ref 23 (Daily Sabah) has a [better source needed] tag.
Strictly speaking the following is outside the scope of a GA review (as long as the references can be accessed and are relevant), but for GA the format used should be consistent (
MOS:REFERENCES). Some points to consider:
Ref 3 (Pavel Fitalyev) does not have the surname put before the first name.
Avoid using Ukrainian text (e.g. Ref 5 (Рєуцький, Костянтин)), but include it where the words are also in English (e.g. "Вони встали за Херсон. Історії оборонців вільного міста" should read something like "Вони встали за Херсон. Історії оборонців вільного міста" ("They stood up for Kherson. Stories of the defenders of the free city").
Where articles are not in English, the language has not always been given (e.g. Ref 13 (Ukrainska Pravda)).
Ref 14 (The Kyiv Independent) – link the newspaper.
The numerous quotes take up quite a lot of space and are not applied in a consistent way. Are they really needed?
(not GA) Ref 38 (Landry) has (News article), which is not needed.
7 External links
Could this source not be incorporated into the article?
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.