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There were never a battle in Grodno 1706. The swedish army waited north of Grodno, and the russians stayed inside Grodno. Finaly they decided to leave Grodno, hauling their artillery in the river and retreated. Then Charles tried to cross the river it was impossible beacuse of the ice breaking up, destroying the bridge the swedes were building. And thats all there were. / Rrohdin ( talk) 17:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Which are the sources for the Swedish authors to present such numbers? 17,000 dead out of 23,000 is a catastrophe and a near-destruction of an army. However, such scale of defeat isn't described at any other source. On the contrary, the Russian retreat is being described as successful. -- Shervinsky ( talk) 22:47, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
These figures obviously qualify as anti-Russian propaganda by the Swedes who are still angry at losing the war. Let's remove this nonsense. -- Ghirla -трёп- 10:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
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There were never a battle in Grodno 1706. The swedish army waited north of Grodno, and the russians stayed inside Grodno. Finaly they decided to leave Grodno, hauling their artillery in the river and retreated. Then Charles tried to cross the river it was impossible beacuse of the ice breaking up, destroying the bridge the swedes were building. And thats all there were. / Rrohdin ( talk) 17:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Which are the sources for the Swedish authors to present such numbers? 17,000 dead out of 23,000 is a catastrophe and a near-destruction of an army. However, such scale of defeat isn't described at any other source. On the contrary, the Russian retreat is being described as successful. -- Shervinsky ( talk) 22:47, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
These figures obviously qualify as anti-Russian propaganda by the Swedes who are still angry at losing the war. Let's remove this nonsense. -- Ghirla -трёп- 10:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)