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Rmhermen 02:15, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
Programming Hamster 14:39, Mar 13th, 2006 (CET)
Czcibor didn't die in the battle, he died long time after the battle and the exact date of his death is not known (but it could have been even 10 or more years after the battle). As for Zehden - Cedynia was part of Brandenburg since 1252, before that it was part of Poland - so why location of the battle which took place before 1252 is given as "Zehden, Brandenburg - since 1945 Cedynia, Poland"?
Here is an article about Czcibor from Polish wikipedia:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czcibor
As you can see nothing is mentioned that he was KIA in the battle and it is written: "zm. po 24 czerwca 972" ("died after 24 June 972"). Footnote No 6 says "Czcibor wasn't mentioned among KIA in the battle, so he died after the battle." If it comes to the battle of Cedynia in popular culture, a battle scene showing the battle of Cedynia can be found in Polish movie "Gniazdo" from 1974:
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fxvT72AttE&NR=1
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feqXqcRLITc
If it comes to Hodo - as you can see in the movie he was captured and then released by Mieszko. Btw - what sources say that Hodo wasn't captured and escaped from the battlefield? Thietmar doesn't write whether he escaped or was released from captivity after the end of the battle if I'm correct.
Peter558 ( talk) 01:40, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
The article is currently based mostly on one German-based article in part by a very young historian Paweł Migdalski(1979)(I don't know if that article was written when he was at Greisfwald University), who took part in far wider climate of debate regarding history of the battle [1]. It seems somewhat strange that this important article should be based solely on this source alone. If anything other views from the debate he took part in should be included.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 13:35, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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Rmhermen 02:15, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
Programming Hamster 14:39, Mar 13th, 2006 (CET)
Czcibor didn't die in the battle, he died long time after the battle and the exact date of his death is not known (but it could have been even 10 or more years after the battle). As for Zehden - Cedynia was part of Brandenburg since 1252, before that it was part of Poland - so why location of the battle which took place before 1252 is given as "Zehden, Brandenburg - since 1945 Cedynia, Poland"?
Here is an article about Czcibor from Polish wikipedia:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czcibor
As you can see nothing is mentioned that he was KIA in the battle and it is written: "zm. po 24 czerwca 972" ("died after 24 June 972"). Footnote No 6 says "Czcibor wasn't mentioned among KIA in the battle, so he died after the battle." If it comes to the battle of Cedynia in popular culture, a battle scene showing the battle of Cedynia can be found in Polish movie "Gniazdo" from 1974:
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fxvT72AttE&NR=1
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feqXqcRLITc
If it comes to Hodo - as you can see in the movie he was captured and then released by Mieszko. Btw - what sources say that Hodo wasn't captured and escaped from the battlefield? Thietmar doesn't write whether he escaped or was released from captivity after the end of the battle if I'm correct.
Peter558 ( talk) 01:40, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
The article is currently based mostly on one German-based article in part by a very young historian Paweł Migdalski(1979)(I don't know if that article was written when he was at Greisfwald University), who took part in far wider climate of debate regarding history of the battle [1]. It seems somewhat strange that this important article should be based solely on this source alone. If anything other views from the debate he took part in should be included.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 13:35, 17 May 2011 (UTC)