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Bath in the seventeenth century – it is not mentioned yet, that Daniel Defoe in his novel Moll Flanders has written about Bath. Consequently Bath was "full of life" already in the 17-th century. Kalevi Kvell, Estonia -- User:77.233.90.11
I lived in Bath most of my life and have never really thought of it as "Bath, Somerset". Until 1997 it was in the county Avon, and since then it has been in the unitary authority Bath and North East Somerset. I wasn't aware that Bath was now considered in the ceremonial county Somerset as ceremonial counties don't present themselves in anyway. Since there isn't another city called Bath in the United Kingdom, why do we need to be so specific? -- Oldak Quill 17:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I would just use "Bath (UK city)" or something similar (along the lines of Georgia (U.S. state) or how Encarta does it [1]). But for some reason, people seem to not like using standard Wikipedia disambiguation guidelines when disambiguating place names. -- Polaron | Talk 13:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I was born and bred in Bath (moving on in 1974 or so) and it was definitely in Somerset, then! 'Avon' came later, and was much disliked. Sounds like a cosmetics advertisement :-). I'm a Somerset man, and proud of it. Mendip; Cheddar; Cider; Glastonbury Tor; Bath -- all the essence of Somerset. quota ( talk) 16:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Booshank ( talk) 13:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
i think a lot of things need to be verified. the population for instance. And it says there a many five star hotels, i think there are only 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.217.55 ( talk) 16:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I have added lots of references & copy edited this article. Thanks to others for edits as well. I think a little more is needed in the history section for the 2nd half of the 20th century and current developments, but apart from that what else do people think is needed before this article is ready to be put up for Wikipedia:Good articles?— Rod talk 15:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
An editor keeps switching the infoboxes so that "Infobox World Heritage Site" appears above "infobox UK place" I do not feel this is appropriate but wanted to try to reach some consensus here. Any thoughts?— Rod talk 20:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
World h site first, the same reason as on the Maritime Greenwich Article. Blackwave...... ( talk) 11:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I have reviewed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria and have placed the article on hold until the following issues are addressed. As you address each issue, either strike through the statement/place a check mark next to the issue and state how you addressed it. If you disagree with one of the issues, state your rationale after the issue.
Needs inline citations:
The article was interesting to read and it was great to see so many free images (good job with the several featured images!). Most of these issues should be very easy to fix and shouldn't take too long. I have left the article on hold for seven days for the issues to be addressed. If they are fixed in this time, I will pass the article. If not, the article will be failed and can be renominated at WP:GAN. If you have any questions or when you are done, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk) 00:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
A lot of early FAs (this one was April 2005) would not meet even the GA criteria right now. The inline citation requirement have been ramped up considerably since the early days (and I'm not convinced this is an entirely helpful development). As for this article, I think it is now very close to (the current) FA standard, and many congratulations to the editors for writing such a fine article about this fine place. Geometry guy 21:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Good job to all those on addressing the above issues (and finding a few more!) so quickly. I have passed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria. There are still a few single sentences standing alone in the "Media" section that should be expanded or merged. Anyway, continue to improve the article, making sure that all new information is properly sourced. As stated above, the article is not too far away from FA status, so I'd recommend getting a couple of outside editors to give it a copyedit and head off to WP:FAC.
Also, to anyone that is reading this review, please consider reviewing an article or two at WP:GAN to help with the large backlog. Instructions can be found here. Each new reviewer that helps to review articles will help to reduce the time that articles wait to be reviewed. Keep up the good work, and I hope that you continue to bring articles up to Good Article status. If anyone disagrees with this review, an alternate opinion can be sought at Good article reassessment. If you have any further questions about this review, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 22:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Now that this article has achieved GA, what else do people think needs doing to meet the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria?— Rod talk 18:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone got any further thoughts on putting this up for FA, or shall I go for it?— Rod talk 17:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
There are still significant issues with this article. I have no idea how it passed WP:FAC. It should never have. It will go to WP:FAR if these issues are not addressed:
I can't imagine how this article got promoted to FA in its current state. Is Raul asleep or something?!?! Dr. Cash ( talk) 19:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that overnight several editors have been changing the way centuries are described and linked & thought it might be useful to get consensus here. The WP:MOS#Dates says "Use numerals for centuries (the 17th century), except at the start of a sentence". I know this conflicts with the next paragraph which says "single-digit whole numbers (from zero to nine) are given as words" but I think the guidance on dates takes precedence? I can't currently find anything definitive in the MOS on whether centuries should be linked (although I'm sure I've read it somewhere before), but it must be consistent within the article. Any help or thoughts appreciated.— Rod talk 10:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Even though I added a photo to the gallery, I don't really think the section is worthwhile. All the photos are mediocare/low quality, except perhaps Pulteney bridge which already has a better photo in the main text. Even if they were all high quality, it just amounts to eye candy in such a large article. Anyone object to removing the Bath Gallery section? Rwendland ( talk) 08:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I propose merging the Claverton Down article into the main Bath article as it doesn't have much content & seems to be fully covered by the article about the city.— Rod talk 17:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I have twice tried to add an external link to www.bathintime.co.uk a website I run in conjunction with Bath Central Library and Bath Preservation Trust. The website enables access to over 10,000 free to access historical images of Bath, and any revenue generated from sales of reproductions go towards conservation of their collections. This site is free to access and is not spam. Please could you seriously reconsider your decisions to remove it? The site was created to increase awareness, understanding and appreciation of Bath and its environs, and on that basis, a link from Wikipedia would be mutually complimentary. Sustaining such a service is not easy, and your support would be appreciated. I do not wish to antagonise the Wikipedia community and have been advised to make my renewed request via this forum. As a Bath resident dedicated to the museums community, your help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Fortaguada ( talk) 19:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Each individual image includes the location reference and catalogue entry of the original object in the corresponding Bath Museum. If that does not attempt to add to the reader's understanding of the article and of Bath I don't know what does. This enables users to see the original objects in a meaningful way without purchasing them. Difficult not to sound perplexed here I'm afraid. Fortaguada ( talk) 14:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about not replying, I'm not familiar with the labyrinthine interface of Wikipedia. I'm not sure which Bath Museum you are referring to as none in my city go under that name, but the fact that providing access to over 10,000 virtual objects is IYHO not providing information, I don't know what is. The site is an attempt to increase awareness, understanding and appreciation of Bath. Each image contains additional information and enables many people visiting Bath from all over the world to plan their trips to the many local museums and attractions. Please reconsider. Fortaguada ( talk) 14:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to set the record straight as the conspiracy theorists were getting carried away. Extraordinary. How many of the adminstrators of this site are from Bath I wonder? Fortaguada ( talk) 22:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I changed this from 99 to 97 as I measured it from the co-ordinates given for Bath, to Charing Cross, a point in London used for such measurement purposes (Distance between 51.508417N 0.12535W and 51.3809N 2.3603W is 96.7501 statute miles assuming the earth is a perfect sphere with a radius of 3963.1 statute miles) Pontificalibus ( talk) 20:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The population of Bath is given as about 80,000, citing a very vague reference in Bath Local Plan. However, taking the Census 2001 population of Bath and North East Somerset of 169,040 and excluding the Census 2001 population of the parished areas of 68,454, the population of the city (that is, the former County Borough) should be 100,586. Can anyone find a direct reference for the Census 2001 figure, or can we take the extrapolated figure (some would argue that it was original research, though I personally thinks that's pushing the argument a bit). Skinsmoke ( talk) 12:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Usually, conversions are a help to readers. However, there are occasions where they become excessive. One passage in the article reads as follows:
I think it reads much better like this:
See how much better the passage flows without the chopping and changing between metric and Imperial measures and other changes? The only conversion that may be helpful is the last one, where some might prefer to include 115 °F along with 46 °C. What do others think? Michael Glass ( talk) 15:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure which colonies you have in mind. The only countries that have not converted to the metric system are the United States, Liberia and Myanmar. There is an increasing problem in having articles such as this one with Imperial measures first, as information is increasingly available in metric units. Therefore giving the rainfall as 31 to 35 inches when the meteorological bureau gives rainfall in millimetres introduces figures with rounding errors as if they were the primary measures. At the very least, some flexibility is needed, and probably the best thing is to put metrics first. As long as the other measures are included, no-one is seriously inconvenienced, even though some passages groan under the weight of continual conversions. Michael Glass ( talk) 17:24, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- With topics strongly associated with places, times or people, put the units most appropriate to them first. For example, in US articles, they usually are United States customary units, and for the UK, they usually are metric units for most measurements, but imperial units for some measurements such as road distances and draught beer (see, for example, Metrication in the United Kingdom and the Times Online style guide under "Metric").
- If editors cannot agree on the sequence of units, put the source value first and the converted value second. If the choice of units is arbitrary, use SI units as the main unit, with converted units in parentheses.
The problem at the moment is that the data in the article depends on a mixture of sources. Some are metric; others are Imperial, and some are undocumented. If we are consistently metric or consistently Imperial we will misrepresent some of our sources. If we are faithful to our sources, the article will be somewhat inconsistent. This might sound bad, but the inconsistency will be of a pattern, with technical information and the meteorology being metric first but with distances being expressed in miles and the parks and gardens being described in acres first, because that's what the local council has on their website at the moment. That's not perfect, of course, but it's preferable to misrepresenting the data, and with the conversions, no-one would be seriously disadvantaged. So in my opinion, it's better to be faithful to the sources than consistent with convention. Michael Glass ( talk) 22:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Correction: A private website used acres only; the local council uses hectares. Michael Glass ( talk) 23:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
On examining the article and its sources (or lack of them) the clash between consistency to sources and within-article consistency is not as bad as some might fear. As far as I can see, there are only two sourced figures that are in imperial measures (both areas of parks), and with one of them, the local council gives the measure in hectares first. Apart from that, measures given in miles appear to be without sources. This leaves two possibilities to consider:
I believe that either solution would be better than the present arrangement. At the moment, there are several instances where the information is inconsistent with the sources quoted. Secondly the climate section is inconsistent itself because the tabular information is metric first but the text is Imperial first for rainfall. Of the two proposals above, I would prefer the second one, because it is consistent with almost all the sources and is internally consistent. However, others may prefer the first proposal, which conforms with local custom. Michael Glass ( talk) 05:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I have now changed the sourced measures as outlined above, except I put the area of the parks in hectares first. Michael Glass ( talk) 01:08, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I'm not a native speaker of English and I'm working to translate this article for the Spanish Wikipedia. I had some difficulty in understanding the following sentence. I hope someone could help me.
Does it mean that the the spring was sorrounded by a stone chamber wahich was internally covered with lead? Thank you for your help. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 15:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Could anyone tell me what that means? Thanks. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 15:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I was unable to find any references about the use of oak piles for the foundations. Could ayone provide one? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 16:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
The reference provided said nothing about the fact that Allen had commissioned the elder John Wood to build a country house in order to advertise the quality of his quarried limestone. Isn't there any other reference which could confirm that? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 20:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
1. I couldn't understand what that in refers to. Does it mean that John Wood the elder and John Wood the younger laid out the new quarters with streets and squares included?
2. When talking about the facades, that of which refers to the new quarters? I mean, are they the new quarters' facades?
3. Does the word decorum mean decoration? I was unable to find it in the Oxford dictionary. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 20:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
This article says that during World War II, between the evening of 25 April and the early morning of 27 April 1942, Bath suffered three air raids in reprisal for RAF raids on the German cities of Lübeck and Rostoc. However, the article about the Baedeker Blitz states that Bath was attacked on the 25th and 26th April only. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 15:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
The article says: The population of the city had reached 40,020 by the time of the 1801 census. However, the website ( [4]) shows different figures.-- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 00:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone have any references for this three sentences?
Any reference for these sentences?
There is a link in that paragraph but I was unable to access the website. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 18:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the Bath Beer Festival was founded? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 20:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
What does the expressión "take the waters" mean in this sentences?
Does anyone know a reference for that sentence? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 23:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Another question of vocabulary: what does o' warm flat irons mean here?
I've just seen that the Royal Victoria Park is not listed in http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.00100200800k00a006 but this article says so. Does anybody have another reference? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 02:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Does it mean that a replica of the Roman Temple in the Royal Victoria Park was exhibited at Wembley, or that the park's Roman temple, which is a replica of a real one, was exhibited at Wembley? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 02:20, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
There's a mistake there. According to the Courage League's article, London Wasps won in 1989/1990. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 17:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Bathians? Bathites? Mr Grant 20:57, 12 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Grant ( talk • contribs)
Bathonians Francis E Williams ( talk) 11:26, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Mr Grant 05:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Grant ( talk • contribs)
There is a contradiction between this article and the article about the Theatre Royal, Bath. This article says that "the early 18th century saw Bath acquire its first purpose-built theatre, the Theatre Royal", while the theatre's article says that "the theatre itself was erected in 1805". -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 21:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Would anybody be willing to put those in? InMooseWeTrust ( talk) 10:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
This article uses the phrase "univallate Iron Age hill fort".
It turns out that lots of WP articles use this precise phrase.
Now, I studied Latin for 5 years. So I will take a wild guess and say that this word probably means "single-walled" because, based on this evidence, there must be hill forts with a double defensive wall too.
I am fifty. I've been in hill forts on trips to Britain. I don't recall ever seeing this word before today. And I've been to Bath.
The word is not listed in the dictionary I normally use.
Is this word too specialist to be appearing in a general article on a popular tourist destination like Bath without a definition?
Or is this now common parlance in the UK? Maybe it is.
Varlaam (
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18:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I was reading the section on transportation, and was wondering what kind of municipal bus service the city has. There is only a single sentence where it is made mention of. It's it publically owned and operated, privately owned and operated, a hybrid of the two? What's the name of the service? This should probably get more say. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 06:45, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
In light of the many attractions, pubs, etc. named after Queen Victoria, I've added a section about ath and Queen Victoria, citing comments she made as an 18 year old in her diary. I was thinking of expanding this. I'd welcome comments. -- BrianKelly ( talk) 14:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I've always wondered what pronunciation people from Bath use for their city's name. It's in the south of England, so you might expect the broad ɑː, but then most people I've known from Bristol (which is near Bath) have used the short a. Which is used in Bath?
To relate this to the article, I've noticed that the IPA uses æ rather than a. Is this a Wikipedia convention? I am aware that some phoneticians use æ, but the Oxford Dictionary now uses a and I think that is more representative of how most people in Britain say the TRAP vowel. Epa101 ( talk) 00:22, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi editors. I recently took what I think is a superior photo of Bath from Alexandra Park. I noticed there's already an image with a similar vantage point in the article. I actually think my image would probably make a good lead image, but rather than rock the boat, I figured it'd be best to mention it here first, as the current lead image is still useful and a home should be made for it elsewhere. The image is:
Does anyone want to be bold? Ðiliff «» (Talk) 22:55, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
The building with 32 corners existing 1816-1896 mentioned at A La Ronde does have a connex to an existing school? Should it be mentioned in the article anyways? -- Helium4 ( talk) 10:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Do you think we should mention the fact it is often regarded as one of the "most beautiful" cities in the UK and the world? Almost all videos and publications that talk about Bath at some point mention its beauty. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.25.239.39 ( talk • contribs) 22:59, 9 October 2013
magazine has now closed and been taken over by large company, previous staff quotes here
http://tellingfrombirdstoll.tumblr.com/post/68446436005/venue-the-last-post
more info here
http://www.bristol247.com/2013/11/29/youll-regret-death-venue-magazine-says-founder-56473/
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References
Iconic band of the 1980s not mentioned at all in Bath's culture section. Suggest it is added (I for one would not know how to do so appropriately) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.108.131 ( talk) 18:37, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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If you want Twerton on Avon station to be reopened in the western suburbs of Bath, please sign this petition. Many thanks.
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/open-twerton-railway-station?source=facebook-share-button&time=1513766334 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.26.154.4 ( talk) 10:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
I made an edit to indicate that Bath is part of BANES (Bath and North East Somerset unitary authority), and thereby reduced the importance of the ceremonial county. Am I being too pedantic about this? What is more important for Wikipedia, the position of a city in local government or its historic relationships? I say the former; but the edit could be controversial as some people might be more attached to the latter. Please accept that I made the change in good faith. Sadgrove ( talk) 11:25, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
“Bath is the ninth largest city, by population, in the county of Somerset, England” is not true at all. It’s the ninth largest city in the south west but the largest in Somerset. 90.241.170.185 ( talk) 17:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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Bath in the seventeenth century – it is not mentioned yet, that Daniel Defoe in his novel Moll Flanders has written about Bath. Consequently Bath was "full of life" already in the 17-th century. Kalevi Kvell, Estonia -- User:77.233.90.11
I lived in Bath most of my life and have never really thought of it as "Bath, Somerset". Until 1997 it was in the county Avon, and since then it has been in the unitary authority Bath and North East Somerset. I wasn't aware that Bath was now considered in the ceremonial county Somerset as ceremonial counties don't present themselves in anyway. Since there isn't another city called Bath in the United Kingdom, why do we need to be so specific? -- Oldak Quill 17:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I would just use "Bath (UK city)" or something similar (along the lines of Georgia (U.S. state) or how Encarta does it [1]). But for some reason, people seem to not like using standard Wikipedia disambiguation guidelines when disambiguating place names. -- Polaron | Talk 13:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I was born and bred in Bath (moving on in 1974 or so) and it was definitely in Somerset, then! 'Avon' came later, and was much disliked. Sounds like a cosmetics advertisement :-). I'm a Somerset man, and proud of it. Mendip; Cheddar; Cider; Glastonbury Tor; Bath -- all the essence of Somerset. quota ( talk) 16:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Booshank ( talk) 13:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
i think a lot of things need to be verified. the population for instance. And it says there a many five star hotels, i think there are only 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.217.55 ( talk) 16:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I have added lots of references & copy edited this article. Thanks to others for edits as well. I think a little more is needed in the history section for the 2nd half of the 20th century and current developments, but apart from that what else do people think is needed before this article is ready to be put up for Wikipedia:Good articles?— Rod talk 15:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
An editor keeps switching the infoboxes so that "Infobox World Heritage Site" appears above "infobox UK place" I do not feel this is appropriate but wanted to try to reach some consensus here. Any thoughts?— Rod talk 20:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
World h site first, the same reason as on the Maritime Greenwich Article. Blackwave...... ( talk) 11:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I have reviewed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria and have placed the article on hold until the following issues are addressed. As you address each issue, either strike through the statement/place a check mark next to the issue and state how you addressed it. If you disagree with one of the issues, state your rationale after the issue.
Needs inline citations:
The article was interesting to read and it was great to see so many free images (good job with the several featured images!). Most of these issues should be very easy to fix and shouldn't take too long. I have left the article on hold for seven days for the issues to be addressed. If they are fixed in this time, I will pass the article. If not, the article will be failed and can be renominated at WP:GAN. If you have any questions or when you are done, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk) 00:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
A lot of early FAs (this one was April 2005) would not meet even the GA criteria right now. The inline citation requirement have been ramped up considerably since the early days (and I'm not convinced this is an entirely helpful development). As for this article, I think it is now very close to (the current) FA standard, and many congratulations to the editors for writing such a fine article about this fine place. Geometry guy 21:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Good job to all those on addressing the above issues (and finding a few more!) so quickly. I have passed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria. There are still a few single sentences standing alone in the "Media" section that should be expanded or merged. Anyway, continue to improve the article, making sure that all new information is properly sourced. As stated above, the article is not too far away from FA status, so I'd recommend getting a couple of outside editors to give it a copyedit and head off to WP:FAC.
Also, to anyone that is reading this review, please consider reviewing an article or two at WP:GAN to help with the large backlog. Instructions can be found here. Each new reviewer that helps to review articles will help to reduce the time that articles wait to be reviewed. Keep up the good work, and I hope that you continue to bring articles up to Good Article status. If anyone disagrees with this review, an alternate opinion can be sought at Good article reassessment. If you have any further questions about this review, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 22:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Now that this article has achieved GA, what else do people think needs doing to meet the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria?— Rod talk 18:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Has anyone got any further thoughts on putting this up for FA, or shall I go for it?— Rod talk 17:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
There are still significant issues with this article. I have no idea how it passed WP:FAC. It should never have. It will go to WP:FAR if these issues are not addressed:
I can't imagine how this article got promoted to FA in its current state. Is Raul asleep or something?!?! Dr. Cash ( talk) 19:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I've noticed that overnight several editors have been changing the way centuries are described and linked & thought it might be useful to get consensus here. The WP:MOS#Dates says "Use numerals for centuries (the 17th century), except at the start of a sentence". I know this conflicts with the next paragraph which says "single-digit whole numbers (from zero to nine) are given as words" but I think the guidance on dates takes precedence? I can't currently find anything definitive in the MOS on whether centuries should be linked (although I'm sure I've read it somewhere before), but it must be consistent within the article. Any help or thoughts appreciated.— Rod talk 10:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Even though I added a photo to the gallery, I don't really think the section is worthwhile. All the photos are mediocare/low quality, except perhaps Pulteney bridge which already has a better photo in the main text. Even if they were all high quality, it just amounts to eye candy in such a large article. Anyone object to removing the Bath Gallery section? Rwendland ( talk) 08:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I propose merging the Claverton Down article into the main Bath article as it doesn't have much content & seems to be fully covered by the article about the city.— Rod talk 17:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I have twice tried to add an external link to www.bathintime.co.uk a website I run in conjunction with Bath Central Library and Bath Preservation Trust. The website enables access to over 10,000 free to access historical images of Bath, and any revenue generated from sales of reproductions go towards conservation of their collections. This site is free to access and is not spam. Please could you seriously reconsider your decisions to remove it? The site was created to increase awareness, understanding and appreciation of Bath and its environs, and on that basis, a link from Wikipedia would be mutually complimentary. Sustaining such a service is not easy, and your support would be appreciated. I do not wish to antagonise the Wikipedia community and have been advised to make my renewed request via this forum. As a Bath resident dedicated to the museums community, your help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Fortaguada ( talk) 19:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Each individual image includes the location reference and catalogue entry of the original object in the corresponding Bath Museum. If that does not attempt to add to the reader's understanding of the article and of Bath I don't know what does. This enables users to see the original objects in a meaningful way without purchasing them. Difficult not to sound perplexed here I'm afraid. Fortaguada ( talk) 14:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about not replying, I'm not familiar with the labyrinthine interface of Wikipedia. I'm not sure which Bath Museum you are referring to as none in my city go under that name, but the fact that providing access to over 10,000 virtual objects is IYHO not providing information, I don't know what is. The site is an attempt to increase awareness, understanding and appreciation of Bath. Each image contains additional information and enables many people visiting Bath from all over the world to plan their trips to the many local museums and attractions. Please reconsider. Fortaguada ( talk) 14:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I just wanted to set the record straight as the conspiracy theorists were getting carried away. Extraordinary. How many of the adminstrators of this site are from Bath I wonder? Fortaguada ( talk) 22:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
I changed this from 99 to 97 as I measured it from the co-ordinates given for Bath, to Charing Cross, a point in London used for such measurement purposes (Distance between 51.508417N 0.12535W and 51.3809N 2.3603W is 96.7501 statute miles assuming the earth is a perfect sphere with a radius of 3963.1 statute miles) Pontificalibus ( talk) 20:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The population of Bath is given as about 80,000, citing a very vague reference in Bath Local Plan. However, taking the Census 2001 population of Bath and North East Somerset of 169,040 and excluding the Census 2001 population of the parished areas of 68,454, the population of the city (that is, the former County Borough) should be 100,586. Can anyone find a direct reference for the Census 2001 figure, or can we take the extrapolated figure (some would argue that it was original research, though I personally thinks that's pushing the argument a bit). Skinsmoke ( talk) 12:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Usually, conversions are a help to readers. However, there are occasions where they become excessive. One passage in the article reads as follows:
I think it reads much better like this:
See how much better the passage flows without the chopping and changing between metric and Imperial measures and other changes? The only conversion that may be helpful is the last one, where some might prefer to include 115 °F along with 46 °C. What do others think? Michael Glass ( talk) 15:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure which colonies you have in mind. The only countries that have not converted to the metric system are the United States, Liberia and Myanmar. There is an increasing problem in having articles such as this one with Imperial measures first, as information is increasingly available in metric units. Therefore giving the rainfall as 31 to 35 inches when the meteorological bureau gives rainfall in millimetres introduces figures with rounding errors as if they were the primary measures. At the very least, some flexibility is needed, and probably the best thing is to put metrics first. As long as the other measures are included, no-one is seriously inconvenienced, even though some passages groan under the weight of continual conversions. Michael Glass ( talk) 17:24, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- With topics strongly associated with places, times or people, put the units most appropriate to them first. For example, in US articles, they usually are United States customary units, and for the UK, they usually are metric units for most measurements, but imperial units for some measurements such as road distances and draught beer (see, for example, Metrication in the United Kingdom and the Times Online style guide under "Metric").
- If editors cannot agree on the sequence of units, put the source value first and the converted value second. If the choice of units is arbitrary, use SI units as the main unit, with converted units in parentheses.
The problem at the moment is that the data in the article depends on a mixture of sources. Some are metric; others are Imperial, and some are undocumented. If we are consistently metric or consistently Imperial we will misrepresent some of our sources. If we are faithful to our sources, the article will be somewhat inconsistent. This might sound bad, but the inconsistency will be of a pattern, with technical information and the meteorology being metric first but with distances being expressed in miles and the parks and gardens being described in acres first, because that's what the local council has on their website at the moment. That's not perfect, of course, but it's preferable to misrepresenting the data, and with the conversions, no-one would be seriously disadvantaged. So in my opinion, it's better to be faithful to the sources than consistent with convention. Michael Glass ( talk) 22:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Correction: A private website used acres only; the local council uses hectares. Michael Glass ( talk) 23:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
On examining the article and its sources (or lack of them) the clash between consistency to sources and within-article consistency is not as bad as some might fear. As far as I can see, there are only two sourced figures that are in imperial measures (both areas of parks), and with one of them, the local council gives the measure in hectares first. Apart from that, measures given in miles appear to be without sources. This leaves two possibilities to consider:
I believe that either solution would be better than the present arrangement. At the moment, there are several instances where the information is inconsistent with the sources quoted. Secondly the climate section is inconsistent itself because the tabular information is metric first but the text is Imperial first for rainfall. Of the two proposals above, I would prefer the second one, because it is consistent with almost all the sources and is internally consistent. However, others may prefer the first proposal, which conforms with local custom. Michael Glass ( talk) 05:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I have now changed the sourced measures as outlined above, except I put the area of the parks in hectares first. Michael Glass ( talk) 01:08, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I'm not a native speaker of English and I'm working to translate this article for the Spanish Wikipedia. I had some difficulty in understanding the following sentence. I hope someone could help me.
Does it mean that the the spring was sorrounded by a stone chamber wahich was internally covered with lead? Thank you for your help. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 15:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Could anyone tell me what that means? Thanks. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 15:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I was unable to find any references about the use of oak piles for the foundations. Could ayone provide one? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 16:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
The reference provided said nothing about the fact that Allen had commissioned the elder John Wood to build a country house in order to advertise the quality of his quarried limestone. Isn't there any other reference which could confirm that? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 20:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
1. I couldn't understand what that in refers to. Does it mean that John Wood the elder and John Wood the younger laid out the new quarters with streets and squares included?
2. When talking about the facades, that of which refers to the new quarters? I mean, are they the new quarters' facades?
3. Does the word decorum mean decoration? I was unable to find it in the Oxford dictionary. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 20:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
This article says that during World War II, between the evening of 25 April and the early morning of 27 April 1942, Bath suffered three air raids in reprisal for RAF raids on the German cities of Lübeck and Rostoc. However, the article about the Baedeker Blitz states that Bath was attacked on the 25th and 26th April only. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 15:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
The article says: The population of the city had reached 40,020 by the time of the 1801 census. However, the website ( [4]) shows different figures.-- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 00:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone have any references for this three sentences?
Any reference for these sentences?
There is a link in that paragraph but I was unable to access the website. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 18:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the Bath Beer Festival was founded? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 20:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
What does the expressión "take the waters" mean in this sentences?
Does anyone know a reference for that sentence? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 23:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Another question of vocabulary: what does o' warm flat irons mean here?
I've just seen that the Royal Victoria Park is not listed in http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.00100200800k00a006 but this article says so. Does anybody have another reference? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 02:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Does it mean that a replica of the Roman Temple in the Royal Victoria Park was exhibited at Wembley, or that the park's Roman temple, which is a replica of a real one, was exhibited at Wembley? -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 02:20, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
There's a mistake there. According to the Courage League's article, London Wasps won in 1989/1990. -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 17:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Bathians? Bathites? Mr Grant 20:57, 12 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Grant ( talk • contribs)
Bathonians Francis E Williams ( talk) 11:26, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Mr Grant 05:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Grant ( talk • contribs)
There is a contradiction between this article and the article about the Theatre Royal, Bath. This article says that "the early 18th century saw Bath acquire its first purpose-built theatre, the Theatre Royal", while the theatre's article says that "the theatre itself was erected in 1805". -- Pablo.ad.92 ( talk) 21:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Would anybody be willing to put those in? InMooseWeTrust ( talk) 10:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
This article uses the phrase "univallate Iron Age hill fort".
It turns out that lots of WP articles use this precise phrase.
Now, I studied Latin for 5 years. So I will take a wild guess and say that this word probably means "single-walled" because, based on this evidence, there must be hill forts with a double defensive wall too.
I am fifty. I've been in hill forts on trips to Britain. I don't recall ever seeing this word before today. And I've been to Bath.
The word is not listed in the dictionary I normally use.
Is this word too specialist to be appearing in a general article on a popular tourist destination like Bath without a definition?
Or is this now common parlance in the UK? Maybe it is.
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I was reading the section on transportation, and was wondering what kind of municipal bus service the city has. There is only a single sentence where it is made mention of. It's it publically owned and operated, privately owned and operated, a hybrid of the two? What's the name of the service? This should probably get more say. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 06:45, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
In light of the many attractions, pubs, etc. named after Queen Victoria, I've added a section about ath and Queen Victoria, citing comments she made as an 18 year old in her diary. I was thinking of expanding this. I'd welcome comments. -- BrianKelly ( talk) 14:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I've always wondered what pronunciation people from Bath use for their city's name. It's in the south of England, so you might expect the broad ɑː, but then most people I've known from Bristol (which is near Bath) have used the short a. Which is used in Bath?
To relate this to the article, I've noticed that the IPA uses æ rather than a. Is this a Wikipedia convention? I am aware that some phoneticians use æ, but the Oxford Dictionary now uses a and I think that is more representative of how most people in Britain say the TRAP vowel. Epa101 ( talk) 00:22, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi editors. I recently took what I think is a superior photo of Bath from Alexandra Park. I noticed there's already an image with a similar vantage point in the article. I actually think my image would probably make a good lead image, but rather than rock the boat, I figured it'd be best to mention it here first, as the current lead image is still useful and a home should be made for it elsewhere. The image is:
Does anyone want to be bold? Ðiliff «» (Talk) 22:55, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
The building with 32 corners existing 1816-1896 mentioned at A La Ronde does have a connex to an existing school? Should it be mentioned in the article anyways? -- Helium4 ( talk) 10:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Do you think we should mention the fact it is often regarded as one of the "most beautiful" cities in the UK and the world? Almost all videos and publications that talk about Bath at some point mention its beauty. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.25.239.39 ( talk • contribs) 22:59, 9 October 2013
magazine has now closed and been taken over by large company, previous staff quotes here
http://tellingfrombirdstoll.tumblr.com/post/68446436005/venue-the-last-post
more info here
http://www.bristol247.com/2013/11/29/youll-regret-death-venue-magazine-says-founder-56473/
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References
Iconic band of the 1980s not mentioned at all in Bath's culture section. Suggest it is added (I for one would not know how to do so appropriately) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.108.131 ( talk) 18:37, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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If you want Twerton on Avon station to be reopened in the western suburbs of Bath, please sign this petition. Many thanks.
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/open-twerton-railway-station?source=facebook-share-button&time=1513766334 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.26.154.4 ( talk) 10:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
I made an edit to indicate that Bath is part of BANES (Bath and North East Somerset unitary authority), and thereby reduced the importance of the ceremonial county. Am I being too pedantic about this? What is more important for Wikipedia, the position of a city in local government or its historic relationships? I say the former; but the edit could be controversial as some people might be more attached to the latter. Please accept that I made the change in good faith. Sadgrove ( talk) 11:25, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
“Bath is the ninth largest city, by population, in the county of Somerset, England” is not true at all. It’s the ninth largest city in the south west but the largest in Somerset. 90.241.170.185 ( talk) 17:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)