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Comnplete non-sense. It has been inconclusively proven that baseball predates rounders. In fact there is historical references proving that rounders was formed from baseball after it was brought to England FROM the colonies.
This is why ever day Wiki becomes more and more pointless.
The UK Uni professors need to stop telling their students to rewrite Wiki with the "truth" (read UK revisionist history) and actually leave the facts in place.
Fact: Baseball is older than rounders. Fact: Baseball evolved from Native American ball games —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.42.50 ( talk) 15:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello, it's been a while since I've came here. I'm the french and fond of baseball guy who got a lot a questions. I'm gonna ask the baseball pros, fans and others to have a look at my new questions, and I promise I will delete each question as soon as its answer will be given - and in the end this topic of the discussion page. (I suscribed to cable television to watch NASN (kind of ESPN's connect) so I'm more than ever concerned about my favorite sport, and that's how I came to these new questions).
- Can someone tell me, or give me a link to a good article, about Catcher's code ? (really hard for a foreigner)
- Can someone tell me, or give me a link to a good article, about the Player's Stats Board, I mean the one which displays all the inings through the game with, under each ining where he batted, some complex indications like F8, SB2, and so on (I forgot the real examples so I'm just kind of guessing).
Can someone tell me, or give me a link to a good article, about bases-coachmen' code ? (sorry, I don't know the term, I mean the guys who shout "run" or "stop" and who give and receives these mysterious signals to and from the main coach, with arms, ankles, nose and so on)
- Can someone tell me why a pitcher who's got a 2.0-like home era can have a 15.0-like road era ?
- Can someone tell me what the stats "0 for 2", "1 for 3" given when a player comes to bat mean ? it means thats how many time he got a hit out every time he at bat.
I think that's all, thank you for reading and maybe answering. Once again, about language, please excuse my... english, let's say ! Goodbye. Hem. (oops, forgot how to sign wiki-ly.
Bottom line, America is a very racist country, all humans should be treated equally. With that being said, if one wants to quesion say Barry Bond's records, then the manipulation of who played in the MLB can also be questioned. Specifically the records of all whites before Robinson broke the color barrier in 1947. Therefore, the numbers of Gehrig, Cobb, Hornsby, Ruth, part of Ted Williams, etc.. every player that played before does not have relaible or viable numbers because the statistics of blacks who potentially were better, but did not have the opportunity to play, were not credited. Furthermore, as far as stats, Hank Aaron was the greatest, as far as how the game was played Willie Mays was the greatest but with a white majority the white player is still held in highest regard.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.11.76 ( talk) 04:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
Discussions aren't for ripping on America. If you want to talk about the article, then go ahead, but the only thing it says about Bonds is that he sparked the steroid controversy, which is an unbiased, neutral statement.
This section of the edit page should be deleted, because most of what this person is saying has nothing to do with the article.
I say that you edit the part about the negro leagues if you are interested in discrimination. You might also make a part about the recent effect of steroids on the game. Just be sure to use neutral point of view. AlexHillan 04:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
This person's statement is akin to saying that all U.S. presidential elections prior to 1920 and the passage of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution should be invalidated since women weren't allowed to vote. His comments on baseball, statistics and racism are pointless in this regard and should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yougottakickalittle ( talk • contribs) 21:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
He has records in hitting and pitching. none exept Ruth can boast that!-- 71.199.154.49 ( talk) 18:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
The suggestion of wiping out all records prior to 1947 makes no sense! Just because some unknown villager in the Australian bush "could" have been the greatest player ever, that doesn't justify negating the records of everyone who did get a chance to play. Besides, baseball recognized the inequity by electing numerous negro league players. Sudaharu Oh never got to play in the majors, either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.116.40.228 ( talk) 22:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Still, and always, there are men (and women for that matter) of ALL nationalities that are potentially great players but will not have the opportunities to play professionally. Does that mean we should not recognize the accomplishemnts of those who ARE awarded such opportunities? 71.125.89.45 ( talk) 23:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
The article says an innings is over when three batsmen are out. Does this mean that they can bat more than once in an innings if less than three men are out by the time all the batters have had a turn? I think this needs to be made clearer in the article. Osomec 22:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
I had always been told that the whole innings was over when a batsmen was caught, even if less than two were already out, but there is no mention of this in the article - is this information therefore incorrect?-- Captdoc 17:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, it did seem a strange rule!-- Captdoc 21:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Seems to me like this main article gets vandalized like every 4 to 6 hours, nearly always (of course) by anonymous addresses. The article is plenty long and detailed enough as it is, and the legitimate corrections/additions that are being made are pretty minor. Anyone else have an opinion about sticking a Template:Vprotected on it? That way, if someone wants to replace the entire page with the single line "baseball is gay" (such as happened twice yesterday), they'd at least have to ask first. The RC patrol has been great about reverting, but you can tell from the comments they're getting tired of it also. Thoughts? Dakern74 19:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
P.S. What about archiving this talk page again also?
I feel like bringing up this topic again after watching the last 24 to 48 hours' worth of spam wars about card collecting, interspersed with other "helpful" edits involving a stinky anus and the fact that a "double" is what happens when two runners score at the same time. Anyone? -- dakern74 ( talk) 00:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I Just repared the the page after the last attack where the page only had the words
"I Love Baseball"
as the whole article. I replased using the last edit pre-ILOVE Attack. So it may need editing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.233.49.69 ( talk • contribs).
I just typed "baseball" in the search field, and the page with "I love baseball" appeared--not the restored page. There is more work to be done, I think.
Hey guys, there was a selection on baseball collecting that had been included and was recently removed, what are your thoughts. Should an external link section for that be included? how about a "see also" if that doesn't work... thoughts/ideas/comments? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wolverinegod ( talk • contribs) .
Interesting perspective. I would agree that specific items, such as the t206 wagner, or a ball signed by the 27 yankess should not be linked to. However, collecting baseball cards and other related materials are very popular amongst fans of the game. An entire section of the article could even be dedicated to the hobby in general. I would again think that something should be included. Image Repositories, Checklists, and sites that allow one to further their knowledge of the hobby are as relevant as any stat site or film site IMHO. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wolverinegod ( talk • contribs) .
It is my thinking that the 'History of Baseball' section should/could have a short paragraph summarising its history instead of just a link? Also, the 'History of Baseball' link itself currently leads not to an article but a disambiguation page, which needs to be changed. Wwwhhh 14:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Why is there a quick detailing of some MLB records (Ripken, Bonds, etc.) that occured in the 1990s and 2000s in the last paragraph of the "history" section yet no mention of any other records in the article? It seems like these are not material to the history of baseball and instead should be included in a section discussing various offensive, defensive and pitching records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yougottakickalittle ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I once read that baseball in the only sport in which the defense puts the ball in play. In every other sport (basketball, football, hockey, soccer, tiddly-winks), the offense puts the ball in play.
I think perhaps a section should be added for Giants broadcasters, notably Dwayne Kuiper and Mike Krukow. They are a huge part of the modern Giants experience and much beloved by all fans. When Barry Bonds retires, Kuip, Kruk, and John Miller will be the best known members of the Giants family. MonkBirdDuke 03:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is incorrect that it states that Football is more popular than Baseball in the United States. I think Major League Baseball's 75-million in attendance this past year would beg to differ. The fact is, there are parts of the country where Football is more popular and parts of the country where Baseball is more popular. Anyway, the article needs to either completely delete this point since it just "opinion", or be re-written to reflect the true facts. 71.183.85.140 ( talk) 00:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)AR
< http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance> 71.183.85.140 ( talk) 21:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)AR
How can a baseball field be used as a football field too?
Most Newer Multi-Porpace stadiums have retractable seats to expand to the size of a NFL feild. For College football some may use the warning tracks as the end lines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.233.49.69 ( talk • contribs).
At Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego (no longer used for baseball, but it is a convertible design and was used for both sports from 1968-2003), half of the field-level seating sections were modular and constructed of aluminum or steel framing rather than concrete. In the baseball configuration, these were placed at the western quarter of the stadium and served as the third-base half of the infield seats. In the football configuration, they are moved to the northern quarter of the stadium, which allows space for the football field running east-west. The permanent half of the field level seats are in the southern quarter, and in the baseball configuration were used as the first-base side of the infield. 68.6.178.220 ( talk) 07:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I think we should remove the list under this section. There is no rule dictating roster make-up and to try and create a list is subjective. Thoughts? -- Tecmobowl 03:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Anyone have objections if i put this page up for sprotect? - Patstuart (talk) (contribs) 18:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Done. Will hopefully stay this way until after the World Series. - Patstuart (talk) (contribs) 17:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Is there an article about steroids and baseball?
Currently the article includes the following: "Black Americans ... continue to form a significant contingent." This is either false or thoroughly misleading. Very few born-in-the-USA black men are in the majors these days. MLB itself has initiated a program to encourage more American boys to play baseball, pointedly intended to prevent further reduction of the number of black Americans in the pipeline to the majors. Saw a brief story about this on TV including some interview footage with a former major leaguer who is one of the people working on this project. Sorry but I don't have any more specifics. But just ask yourself, does your favorite major league team have even two black Americans on it? I'd guess, possibly not! Those of us who got to see the great black stars of the 50s and 60s, so many of whom are now in the hall of fame, regret this trend. Publius3 08:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
"But just ask yourself, does your favorite major league team have even two black Americans on it?" Yes. Phillies: Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins. (Not that you are wrong, though.)
Yes. Minnesota Twins: Torii Hunter, Rondell White. However, I hope people of all races begin to appreciate Baseball more in their youth. Locarno
Yes. Detroit Tigers: Curtis Granderson and Gary Sheffield. 35.11.183.95 19:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Detroit had three U.S. born blacks in their starting lineup in 2007, until Craig Monroe was benched. At the moment (May, 2008), Sheffield is also benched - but Marcus Thames was recently promoted to starting left fielder. Detroit in 2008 has one U.S. born white starting player (Inge) and all the rest are Hispanic (Polanco, Guillen, Ordonez and Cabrera). Additionaly, I'd count Ivan Rodriguez, Detroit's all-star catcher, as American because he's Puerto Rican.
Statistically, I've read that the number of U.S. born black ballplayers has been declining for the last 20 or 30 years, possibly because of inadequate Little League organization in black neighborhoods, possibly due to the dominace of basketball as a playground game in black neighborhoods. Major league baseball is very concerned about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.116.40.228 ( talk) 23:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
One paragraph asserts that "Baseball is fundamentally a team sport—even two or three Hall of Fame-caliber players are no guarantee of a pennant", but this article does not explain what a pennant is or assert its importance, and the link is unhelpful.
- pennant: In team sports, a commemorative flag displayed or flown by a league-winning team. The last few weeks of the regular American professional baseball season, for instance, are known as the "pennant race". This is probably a holdover from the time (pre-1969) when the league championships were determined by the team with the best record at the end of the season, and to a lesser extent when there were division races but no wild cards (1969-93).
Seems that the vandalism is out of control. Maybe this should be protected again. Superstooge 19:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I just created an SVG ( Image:Baseball diamond.svg) image for the field and would like to solicit comments and feedback:
Any comments, suggestions, feedback, change requests, whatever? Image:Baseball field overview medium.png was my inspiration but this SVG was created from scratch. Cburnett 08:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
The image, as displayed on my fairly cheap system, shows the distance 60 feet 6 inches between the center of the pitcher's plate and the center, more or less, of home plate. This is wrong. The rules require a distance 60 feet 6 inches as measured from the edge of the pitcher's plate nearest home plate, and the corner of home plate that is nearest the catcher. The two points displayed in this image are less than 60 feet 6 apart, and more importantly, neither of the two displayed points is referenced in the rule book. Publius3 21:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I also stripped the labels down and made two more images:
Full | Simplified | Clean |
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Enjoy however you please. Cburnett 19:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with some others that the fence distance should not be MLB-centric--this diagram should cover typical high school/college/amateur/central American/Carribbean/Japanese/etc. fields as well. I would say "fences must be at least 250 feet from home plate, but typically are 300 to 360 feet down the lines and 350 to 430 feet to center field." We should add the MLB distances to the Baseball field article. -- PSzalapski 15:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, I would suggest making the green color a "faded" green (i.e. closer to white) to make the text more readable. -- PSzalapski 15:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I love the fact that the description of baseball's actual play is now more clear. I don't think the huge paragraph on the composition of the Major Leagues needs to be in the introduction. It is too specific to be placed there. I am being bold and deleting/editing it. Please let me know if you have an objection. ParvatiBai 17:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for being polite about this. To my mind, in an article about baseball which purports to treat the topic on a broad level, two entire paragraphs about the American professional league are not needed in the intro and give it an overly specific tone that will run off the casual/uninformed reader. I think one or two sentences, as I placed them, are appropriate. I will happily see the paragraphs moved farther into the article. ParvatiBai 18:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Has baseball's popularity in Australia really grown in recent years. Baseball's main competitor cricket dominates the national attention during the summer months. Baseball's popularity in Australia was at its greatest in the early nineties but as was the case with other American sports like basketball, the popularity took the form of a ephemeral fad. There is delapidated and long disused baseball stadium in the suburb of Auburn in Sydney, Australia built around this time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Imalegend ( talk • contribs).
just to let you know cricket is considered australia's national sport. so i wouldn't compare it to that but may something else-- Thugchildz
The article currently does not specify whether the handsignals used are universal, or whether each team has their own secret code. I would also like some more text on what precise kind of hand signals are used, like for instance touching the nose, sweeping the rim of the baseball cap etc. This should of course be written into the article by someone who has the requisite backround to know. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. 06:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The following question is not answered in the article:
Does "automatic home run" mean the batter gets a home run without having to [*] actually run around the bases? [*unnecessarily, for someone like me who understands cricket and doesn't understand baseball much beyond "a variation of rounders" - in cricket if you hit a boundary you always get 4 or 6 runs w/o running, may even get 5 or even 7 or more with an overthrow] 59.93.247.165 03:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Note that, apparently unlike in cricket, a ball is not returned from beyond the field of play. In the case of an out-of-the-park home run, the batter (and any base runners) are required to run the bases, but are in no hurry as the defensive team does not have the capability of getting them out (since that requires possession of the ball). 68.6.178.220 ( talk) 07:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
A little more clarification: When the ball is hit over the fence and the umpire signals "home run", it becomes a "time out" or "ball is dead" situation, meaning that no defensive action can take place. Once the batter has circle the bases, the umpire will give a new ball to the pitcher. In a humorous way, sometimes the ball is indeed "returned from beyond the field of play", as when fans throw the ball back when a visiting player homers, but that ball is not allowed to be put into play, and in fact would probably be sent to the dugout for use in batting practice. Once the play is over, the ump will give a new ball to the pitcher. If the hitter or any runner has missed a base, the fielding team can appeal by throwing the ball to a fielder covering that base, and an umpire will rule "safe" or "out". That rarely happens. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 11:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Lah, me: "Again, there is a technical difference; properly speaking, the outfield consists of all fair ground beyond the square of the infield and its bases. The area between the foul lines, including the foul lines (the foul lines are in fair territory), is fair territory, and the area outside the foul lines is foul territory." Says who? "Infield" and "outfield" are not defined in the rules. I say "Outfield" is all fair ground beyond the grass line, which is defined in the rules, as well as the foul ground nearby (ever heard of an outfield foul ball?). Infield is everything else on the playing field. I don't know about all of this, but I also am sure there is no way you can call the dirt between the direct baseline and the grass line the "outfield". -- PSzalapski 15:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering when baseball season started/ended and decided to check wikipedia. Imagine my surprise when I find out that that information is not on the page. I don't even know what general months of the year constitute baseball season. Could someone please add this minor information in the appropriate place in the article? — Eric Herboso 05:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a note for the record: semi-protection was asked for on the 12th April semi-protect - non stop vandalism, with 17 rvv on the 11th April. Long history of vandalism and with 3 rvv in the first 40 minutes of the 12th April. Semi protection was given till 3 May 2007 (3 weeks). Thanks to Dudesleeper, Y, SECurtisTX, Pill-, DCGeist and all the others who have maintained a watch on this page. - Ctbolt 02:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
One of these days I'm going to work out to edit this incredible site but for now I think I have to ask one of you to do it for me.
From what I read this page has been subject to vandalism and as a result is now "locked". If so it's been locked with the opening line: "Baseball is a rubbish sport...."
Could someone who knows what they're doing amend appropriately? Thanks
miles3659 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.176.105.40 ( talk) 11:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball#Time_element
Last sentance of this section has a word that should read "ball" not "balk"
A BALK is what a pitcher's infraction is called. This is usually a feinted pitch, or related to delay of game. As the article currently reads, it does not make sense with BALL in the sentence instead of BALK. Someone changed this mistakenly, and it needs to be changed back asap.
74.67.17.22 (
talk)
03:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
It occurred to me that there are some simple things I don't know, because you never see them happen. First, if a ball bounces before the plate, and then passes through the strike zone, is it a strike? And, if the batter swings at it and hits it into fair territory, is it in play? -- Trovatore 06:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
The article says that only the pitcher's and catcher's fielding position are fixed, but there's also a rule that says that all fielder (except for the catcher of course) must be in fair territory when the ball is pitched. -- 128.237.238.166 04:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure where else to put this, but I've seen on many players pages a ver batim copy of Baseball-Reference stats. This is ugly looking and doesn't update, while people could easily click the link and get today's stats. I think these should be deleted. Electricbassguy 02:32, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
3 Strikeouts- hat trick 4 Strikeouts- Golden sombrero What are 5 Strikeouts called?-- Kingforaday1620 23:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
It happens so infrequently that it doesn't really have a separate "hat" name. Instead it is occasionally called a "platinum sombrero" instead of a golden one. Then apparently six becomes a "titanium sombrero", though I've never actually heard this. (It's only ever happened a few times, in extra-inning games.) The golden sombrero entry has a few more details, and a list of major-leaguers who've done it. -- dakern74 ( talk) 05:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the Boston Red Sox and the Baltimore Orioles are not listed under "List of MLB Teams" at the bottom of the page? 151.154.41.61 17:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with the inclusion of the following sentence: "Some hitters hit better with runners in scoring position, so an opposing manager, knowing this statistic, might elect to intentionally walk him in order to face a worse hitter." Whether or not certain hitters perform better with runners in scoring position ("in the clutch") is actually the subject of debate ( clutch hitter), so I don't like that this statement presumes the existence of clutch hitters. I'm not sure how to best reword it though, as it's removal will leave the rest of the paragraph rather small. Mickeyg13 08:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
The article is somewhat unclear. Is baseball popular in China? They are in East Asia and have a professional league but the article is somewhat unclear if baseball is popular there. And what about Mongolia? Nil Einne 00:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Very informative article but for one thing...there seems to be little explanation of the scoring system. I understand the batting team gets a point for moving to second or to third base, what about from third to the plate? And is a homer worth any points other than those gained from advancing bases? 212.32.11.115 10:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I removed a picture of Yankee Stadium that was stacked on the one of Wrigley Field. My main reason for doing this is that the former picture isn't mentioned in the section, while the latter is. However, I was torn between either flushing the Yankee Stadium left and squishing the text, or simply removing it. So, I figured that if it needed to be mentioned, it should be in Baseball park. Of course, if you guys think otherwise, feel free to undo or adjust as necessary. Check out help on image syntax if you have any trouble. Cheers =) -- slakr\ talk / 01:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Why did the players go on strike in 1994?-- Kingforaday1620 22:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
"Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa both broke Roger Maris's long-standing single season home run record in 1998." This is in the history in the U.S. Section. Is that worded correctly? Technically, McGwire "broke" Maris' record, and Sosa just happened to surpass the old record. --Surfbruddah —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.188.183.5 ( talk) 20:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
It gets even more confusing. McGwire's 57th homer of the 1998 season broke Hack Wilson's National League all-time single season home run record (of 56), which had stood since 1930. Sosa's 57th homer, a couple days later, broke the Chicago Cubs' all-time single season home run record, also set by Hack Wilson in 1930.
Is it a nine player game or shall one say it is alternately a nine or ten person game, depending on the prevailing rules of the league or match?
Soft carebare ( talk) 05:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Someone, in good faith I'm sure, tried to change it to 9 players "at a time". That is a questionable way to put it, and is arguably "original research" or "analysis", because the rules do not make that statement, as noted above. Just as with American football, where you have two teams of 11 players. It's true that's at any one time - but that's always the case with any sport. Any sport has squads, substitutions, etc. The "at a time" part is confusing and redundant. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 06:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't Cooperstown have a lot to do with baseball. How come it's not mentioned once on the site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.6 ( talk) 23:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- The story that Abner Doubleday invented baseball in 1839 was once widely promoted and widely believed. There was and is no evidence for this claim, except for the testimony of one man decades after the fact, and there is more persuasive counter-evidence. See Origins of baseball.
LotR, The Hall of Fame is in Cooperstown because of the perpatuated myth. That fact isn't odd. It is telling. They may have named a field after him, but did you ever wonder why Doubleday was never elected to the Hall of Fame?
The stadium is still called Doubleday; I have no idea why. I imagine the Hall makes money out of keeping the myth alive. People get upset when their view of the world gets re-aligned. Think about when Pluto was no longer deemed a planet ( 2006 definition of planet). Kingturtle ( talk) 13:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I helped fix some misakes here. By the way,I thought Cooperstown is where baseball all started,or at least a version of baseball. I would like someone to add Cooperstown in the baseball article. Anyway I also like baseball.If you have any questions about baseball,ask me at-- RyRy5 ( talk) 04:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again. Like I said Who Knew.-- RyRy5 ( talk) 20:34, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, Pro games do not differ from little league games in terms of time very much. Pitching changes take a bit longer, but that is all. Little league games are 6 innings and are allowed roughly 2 hours (so about 1 hour for 3 innings). (They are usually a bit less, but it makes sense, because leagues want to finish games before the next scheduled game starts). Pro games are about 3 hours (a little less, but same with little league). This also is 1 hour for 3 innings.
I have been to Pro baseball games, both minor and major league. You don't have tv timeouts like in many other sports where you notice the break in the action as "extra." In baseball, the pitchers and other fielders warm up in between innings (While the home organization entertains the crowd), but the warm up time would take the same length if the game wasn't broadcast.
I'm not comparing this to older times, I'm just comparing this to non broadcast games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.89.134 ( talk) 21:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
This is small, but could be very misleading to people new to baseball:
The DH (designated hitter) is a player that hits for a defensive player (who is not in the batting lineup). This page says that player is the pitcher. At pro level, every DH hits for a pitcher, but that is because pitchers who are drafted are signed to a team for their pitching skills, even though their hitting isn't professional material. At lower levels, the DH usually isn't used. This article implies that it is always the pitcher, and that is the rule. It could be reworded to say it is usually the pitcher for the reasons I stated above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.89.134 ( talk) 21:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I would like to change the caption for the picture of the world series fielding strategy part of this website. They aren't playing in to field a bunt, they are playing in to make a shorter throw to the plate so the runner doesn't score. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robroman ( talk • contribs) 15:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Robroman, you are always welcome to make such changes yourself. :) Cheers, Kingturtle ( talk) 16:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
This article was de-featured in part because it contained too much detail. The rules section in particular was too long. In keeping with Wikipedia:Summary style, I have moved the details to a subarticle, baseball rules, and left behind a shorter summary. As it happens, a summary article, simplified baseball rules, already existed, so I merged that here and turned it into a redirect. The summary still needs to be improved, adding links and making sure it covers the major points in a satisfactory fashion. Some additional images taken from the main rules subarticle might also make this page more attractive and informative. -- Beland ( talk) 18:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Baseball/CommentsBB, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
There appears to be a missing segment (marked [***] below) in the section "Team at Bat -- Batters and Runners", [
[2]]:
A batter always drops his bat when running the bases— otherwise, the bat would slow him down and could give rise to a call of [***] fielder to catch it on its descent. The missing part would logically include the potential penalty for carrying the bat, followed by a description of a fly ball/pop-up. 82.131.251.54 15:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC) Searched article history until I found a pre-deletion version of the article and corrected the current article of the above erroe. Timpcrk87 05:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC) |
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Comnplete non-sense. It has been inconclusively proven that baseball predates rounders. In fact there is historical references proving that rounders was formed from baseball after it was brought to England FROM the colonies.
This is why ever day Wiki becomes more and more pointless.
The UK Uni professors need to stop telling their students to rewrite Wiki with the "truth" (read UK revisionist history) and actually leave the facts in place.
Fact: Baseball is older than rounders. Fact: Baseball evolved from Native American ball games —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.42.50 ( talk) 15:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello, it's been a while since I've came here. I'm the french and fond of baseball guy who got a lot a questions. I'm gonna ask the baseball pros, fans and others to have a look at my new questions, and I promise I will delete each question as soon as its answer will be given - and in the end this topic of the discussion page. (I suscribed to cable television to watch NASN (kind of ESPN's connect) so I'm more than ever concerned about my favorite sport, and that's how I came to these new questions).
- Can someone tell me, or give me a link to a good article, about Catcher's code ? (really hard for a foreigner)
- Can someone tell me, or give me a link to a good article, about the Player's Stats Board, I mean the one which displays all the inings through the game with, under each ining where he batted, some complex indications like F8, SB2, and so on (I forgot the real examples so I'm just kind of guessing).
Can someone tell me, or give me a link to a good article, about bases-coachmen' code ? (sorry, I don't know the term, I mean the guys who shout "run" or "stop" and who give and receives these mysterious signals to and from the main coach, with arms, ankles, nose and so on)
- Can someone tell me why a pitcher who's got a 2.0-like home era can have a 15.0-like road era ?
- Can someone tell me what the stats "0 for 2", "1 for 3" given when a player comes to bat mean ? it means thats how many time he got a hit out every time he at bat.
I think that's all, thank you for reading and maybe answering. Once again, about language, please excuse my... english, let's say ! Goodbye. Hem. (oops, forgot how to sign wiki-ly.
Bottom line, America is a very racist country, all humans should be treated equally. With that being said, if one wants to quesion say Barry Bond's records, then the manipulation of who played in the MLB can also be questioned. Specifically the records of all whites before Robinson broke the color barrier in 1947. Therefore, the numbers of Gehrig, Cobb, Hornsby, Ruth, part of Ted Williams, etc.. every player that played before does not have relaible or viable numbers because the statistics of blacks who potentially were better, but did not have the opportunity to play, were not credited. Furthermore, as far as stats, Hank Aaron was the greatest, as far as how the game was played Willie Mays was the greatest but with a white majority the white player is still held in highest regard.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.74.11.76 ( talk) 04:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
Discussions aren't for ripping on America. If you want to talk about the article, then go ahead, but the only thing it says about Bonds is that he sparked the steroid controversy, which is an unbiased, neutral statement.
This section of the edit page should be deleted, because most of what this person is saying has nothing to do with the article.
I say that you edit the part about the negro leagues if you are interested in discrimination. You might also make a part about the recent effect of steroids on the game. Just be sure to use neutral point of view. AlexHillan 04:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
This person's statement is akin to saying that all U.S. presidential elections prior to 1920 and the passage of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution should be invalidated since women weren't allowed to vote. His comments on baseball, statistics and racism are pointless in this regard and should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yougottakickalittle ( talk • contribs) 21:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
He has records in hitting and pitching. none exept Ruth can boast that!-- 71.199.154.49 ( talk) 18:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
The suggestion of wiping out all records prior to 1947 makes no sense! Just because some unknown villager in the Australian bush "could" have been the greatest player ever, that doesn't justify negating the records of everyone who did get a chance to play. Besides, baseball recognized the inequity by electing numerous negro league players. Sudaharu Oh never got to play in the majors, either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.116.40.228 ( talk) 22:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Still, and always, there are men (and women for that matter) of ALL nationalities that are potentially great players but will not have the opportunities to play professionally. Does that mean we should not recognize the accomplishemnts of those who ARE awarded such opportunities? 71.125.89.45 ( talk) 23:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
The article says an innings is over when three batsmen are out. Does this mean that they can bat more than once in an innings if less than three men are out by the time all the batters have had a turn? I think this needs to be made clearer in the article. Osomec 22:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
I had always been told that the whole innings was over when a batsmen was caught, even if less than two were already out, but there is no mention of this in the article - is this information therefore incorrect?-- Captdoc 17:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, it did seem a strange rule!-- Captdoc 21:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Seems to me like this main article gets vandalized like every 4 to 6 hours, nearly always (of course) by anonymous addresses. The article is plenty long and detailed enough as it is, and the legitimate corrections/additions that are being made are pretty minor. Anyone else have an opinion about sticking a Template:Vprotected on it? That way, if someone wants to replace the entire page with the single line "baseball is gay" (such as happened twice yesterday), they'd at least have to ask first. The RC patrol has been great about reverting, but you can tell from the comments they're getting tired of it also. Thoughts? Dakern74 19:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
P.S. What about archiving this talk page again also?
I feel like bringing up this topic again after watching the last 24 to 48 hours' worth of spam wars about card collecting, interspersed with other "helpful" edits involving a stinky anus and the fact that a "double" is what happens when two runners score at the same time. Anyone? -- dakern74 ( talk) 00:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I Just repared the the page after the last attack where the page only had the words
"I Love Baseball"
as the whole article. I replased using the last edit pre-ILOVE Attack. So it may need editing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.233.49.69 ( talk • contribs).
I just typed "baseball" in the search field, and the page with "I love baseball" appeared--not the restored page. There is more work to be done, I think.
Hey guys, there was a selection on baseball collecting that had been included and was recently removed, what are your thoughts. Should an external link section for that be included? how about a "see also" if that doesn't work... thoughts/ideas/comments? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wolverinegod ( talk • contribs) .
Interesting perspective. I would agree that specific items, such as the t206 wagner, or a ball signed by the 27 yankess should not be linked to. However, collecting baseball cards and other related materials are very popular amongst fans of the game. An entire section of the article could even be dedicated to the hobby in general. I would again think that something should be included. Image Repositories, Checklists, and sites that allow one to further their knowledge of the hobby are as relevant as any stat site or film site IMHO. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wolverinegod ( talk • contribs) .
It is my thinking that the 'History of Baseball' section should/could have a short paragraph summarising its history instead of just a link? Also, the 'History of Baseball' link itself currently leads not to an article but a disambiguation page, which needs to be changed. Wwwhhh 14:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Why is there a quick detailing of some MLB records (Ripken, Bonds, etc.) that occured in the 1990s and 2000s in the last paragraph of the "history" section yet no mention of any other records in the article? It seems like these are not material to the history of baseball and instead should be included in a section discussing various offensive, defensive and pitching records. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yougottakickalittle ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I once read that baseball in the only sport in which the defense puts the ball in play. In every other sport (basketball, football, hockey, soccer, tiddly-winks), the offense puts the ball in play.
I think perhaps a section should be added for Giants broadcasters, notably Dwayne Kuiper and Mike Krukow. They are a huge part of the modern Giants experience and much beloved by all fans. When Barry Bonds retires, Kuip, Kruk, and John Miller will be the best known members of the Giants family. MonkBirdDuke 03:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is incorrect that it states that Football is more popular than Baseball in the United States. I think Major League Baseball's 75-million in attendance this past year would beg to differ. The fact is, there are parts of the country where Football is more popular and parts of the country where Baseball is more popular. Anyway, the article needs to either completely delete this point since it just "opinion", or be re-written to reflect the true facts. 71.183.85.140 ( talk) 00:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)AR
< http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance> 71.183.85.140 ( talk) 21:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)AR
How can a baseball field be used as a football field too?
Most Newer Multi-Porpace stadiums have retractable seats to expand to the size of a NFL feild. For College football some may use the warning tracks as the end lines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.233.49.69 ( talk • contribs).
At Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego (no longer used for baseball, but it is a convertible design and was used for both sports from 1968-2003), half of the field-level seating sections were modular and constructed of aluminum or steel framing rather than concrete. In the baseball configuration, these were placed at the western quarter of the stadium and served as the third-base half of the infield seats. In the football configuration, they are moved to the northern quarter of the stadium, which allows space for the football field running east-west. The permanent half of the field level seats are in the southern quarter, and in the baseball configuration were used as the first-base side of the infield. 68.6.178.220 ( talk) 07:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I think we should remove the list under this section. There is no rule dictating roster make-up and to try and create a list is subjective. Thoughts? -- Tecmobowl 03:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Anyone have objections if i put this page up for sprotect? - Patstuart (talk) (contribs) 18:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Done. Will hopefully stay this way until after the World Series. - Patstuart (talk) (contribs) 17:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Is there an article about steroids and baseball?
Currently the article includes the following: "Black Americans ... continue to form a significant contingent." This is either false or thoroughly misleading. Very few born-in-the-USA black men are in the majors these days. MLB itself has initiated a program to encourage more American boys to play baseball, pointedly intended to prevent further reduction of the number of black Americans in the pipeline to the majors. Saw a brief story about this on TV including some interview footage with a former major leaguer who is one of the people working on this project. Sorry but I don't have any more specifics. But just ask yourself, does your favorite major league team have even two black Americans on it? I'd guess, possibly not! Those of us who got to see the great black stars of the 50s and 60s, so many of whom are now in the hall of fame, regret this trend. Publius3 08:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
"But just ask yourself, does your favorite major league team have even two black Americans on it?" Yes. Phillies: Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins. (Not that you are wrong, though.)
Yes. Minnesota Twins: Torii Hunter, Rondell White. However, I hope people of all races begin to appreciate Baseball more in their youth. Locarno
Yes. Detroit Tigers: Curtis Granderson and Gary Sheffield. 35.11.183.95 19:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Detroit had three U.S. born blacks in their starting lineup in 2007, until Craig Monroe was benched. At the moment (May, 2008), Sheffield is also benched - but Marcus Thames was recently promoted to starting left fielder. Detroit in 2008 has one U.S. born white starting player (Inge) and all the rest are Hispanic (Polanco, Guillen, Ordonez and Cabrera). Additionaly, I'd count Ivan Rodriguez, Detroit's all-star catcher, as American because he's Puerto Rican.
Statistically, I've read that the number of U.S. born black ballplayers has been declining for the last 20 or 30 years, possibly because of inadequate Little League organization in black neighborhoods, possibly due to the dominace of basketball as a playground game in black neighborhoods. Major league baseball is very concerned about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.116.40.228 ( talk) 23:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
One paragraph asserts that "Baseball is fundamentally a team sport—even two or three Hall of Fame-caliber players are no guarantee of a pennant", but this article does not explain what a pennant is or assert its importance, and the link is unhelpful.
- pennant: In team sports, a commemorative flag displayed or flown by a league-winning team. The last few weeks of the regular American professional baseball season, for instance, are known as the "pennant race". This is probably a holdover from the time (pre-1969) when the league championships were determined by the team with the best record at the end of the season, and to a lesser extent when there were division races but no wild cards (1969-93).
Seems that the vandalism is out of control. Maybe this should be protected again. Superstooge 19:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I just created an SVG ( Image:Baseball diamond.svg) image for the field and would like to solicit comments and feedback:
Any comments, suggestions, feedback, change requests, whatever? Image:Baseball field overview medium.png was my inspiration but this SVG was created from scratch. Cburnett 08:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
The image, as displayed on my fairly cheap system, shows the distance 60 feet 6 inches between the center of the pitcher's plate and the center, more or less, of home plate. This is wrong. The rules require a distance 60 feet 6 inches as measured from the edge of the pitcher's plate nearest home plate, and the corner of home plate that is nearest the catcher. The two points displayed in this image are less than 60 feet 6 apart, and more importantly, neither of the two displayed points is referenced in the rule book. Publius3 21:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I also stripped the labels down and made two more images:
Full | Simplified | Clean |
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Enjoy however you please. Cburnett 19:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree with some others that the fence distance should not be MLB-centric--this diagram should cover typical high school/college/amateur/central American/Carribbean/Japanese/etc. fields as well. I would say "fences must be at least 250 feet from home plate, but typically are 300 to 360 feet down the lines and 350 to 430 feet to center field." We should add the MLB distances to the Baseball field article. -- PSzalapski 15:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, I would suggest making the green color a "faded" green (i.e. closer to white) to make the text more readable. -- PSzalapski 15:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I love the fact that the description of baseball's actual play is now more clear. I don't think the huge paragraph on the composition of the Major Leagues needs to be in the introduction. It is too specific to be placed there. I am being bold and deleting/editing it. Please let me know if you have an objection. ParvatiBai 17:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for being polite about this. To my mind, in an article about baseball which purports to treat the topic on a broad level, two entire paragraphs about the American professional league are not needed in the intro and give it an overly specific tone that will run off the casual/uninformed reader. I think one or two sentences, as I placed them, are appropriate. I will happily see the paragraphs moved farther into the article. ParvatiBai 18:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Has baseball's popularity in Australia really grown in recent years. Baseball's main competitor cricket dominates the national attention during the summer months. Baseball's popularity in Australia was at its greatest in the early nineties but as was the case with other American sports like basketball, the popularity took the form of a ephemeral fad. There is delapidated and long disused baseball stadium in the suburb of Auburn in Sydney, Australia built around this time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Imalegend ( talk • contribs).
just to let you know cricket is considered australia's national sport. so i wouldn't compare it to that but may something else-- Thugchildz
The article currently does not specify whether the handsignals used are universal, or whether each team has their own secret code. I would also like some more text on what precise kind of hand signals are used, like for instance touching the nose, sweeping the rim of the baseball cap etc. This should of course be written into the article by someone who has the requisite backround to know. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. 06:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The following question is not answered in the article:
Does "automatic home run" mean the batter gets a home run without having to [*] actually run around the bases? [*unnecessarily, for someone like me who understands cricket and doesn't understand baseball much beyond "a variation of rounders" - in cricket if you hit a boundary you always get 4 or 6 runs w/o running, may even get 5 or even 7 or more with an overthrow] 59.93.247.165 03:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Note that, apparently unlike in cricket, a ball is not returned from beyond the field of play. In the case of an out-of-the-park home run, the batter (and any base runners) are required to run the bases, but are in no hurry as the defensive team does not have the capability of getting them out (since that requires possession of the ball). 68.6.178.220 ( talk) 07:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
A little more clarification: When the ball is hit over the fence and the umpire signals "home run", it becomes a "time out" or "ball is dead" situation, meaning that no defensive action can take place. Once the batter has circle the bases, the umpire will give a new ball to the pitcher. In a humorous way, sometimes the ball is indeed "returned from beyond the field of play", as when fans throw the ball back when a visiting player homers, but that ball is not allowed to be put into play, and in fact would probably be sent to the dugout for use in batting practice. Once the play is over, the ump will give a new ball to the pitcher. If the hitter or any runner has missed a base, the fielding team can appeal by throwing the ball to a fielder covering that base, and an umpire will rule "safe" or "out". That rarely happens. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 11:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Lah, me: "Again, there is a technical difference; properly speaking, the outfield consists of all fair ground beyond the square of the infield and its bases. The area between the foul lines, including the foul lines (the foul lines are in fair territory), is fair territory, and the area outside the foul lines is foul territory." Says who? "Infield" and "outfield" are not defined in the rules. I say "Outfield" is all fair ground beyond the grass line, which is defined in the rules, as well as the foul ground nearby (ever heard of an outfield foul ball?). Infield is everything else on the playing field. I don't know about all of this, but I also am sure there is no way you can call the dirt between the direct baseline and the grass line the "outfield". -- PSzalapski 15:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering when baseball season started/ended and decided to check wikipedia. Imagine my surprise when I find out that that information is not on the page. I don't even know what general months of the year constitute baseball season. Could someone please add this minor information in the appropriate place in the article? — Eric Herboso 05:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a note for the record: semi-protection was asked for on the 12th April semi-protect - non stop vandalism, with 17 rvv on the 11th April. Long history of vandalism and with 3 rvv in the first 40 minutes of the 12th April. Semi protection was given till 3 May 2007 (3 weeks). Thanks to Dudesleeper, Y, SECurtisTX, Pill-, DCGeist and all the others who have maintained a watch on this page. - Ctbolt 02:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
One of these days I'm going to work out to edit this incredible site but for now I think I have to ask one of you to do it for me.
From what I read this page has been subject to vandalism and as a result is now "locked". If so it's been locked with the opening line: "Baseball is a rubbish sport...."
Could someone who knows what they're doing amend appropriately? Thanks
miles3659 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.176.105.40 ( talk) 11:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball#Time_element
Last sentance of this section has a word that should read "ball" not "balk"
A BALK is what a pitcher's infraction is called. This is usually a feinted pitch, or related to delay of game. As the article currently reads, it does not make sense with BALL in the sentence instead of BALK. Someone changed this mistakenly, and it needs to be changed back asap.
74.67.17.22 (
talk)
03:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
It occurred to me that there are some simple things I don't know, because you never see them happen. First, if a ball bounces before the plate, and then passes through the strike zone, is it a strike? And, if the batter swings at it and hits it into fair territory, is it in play? -- Trovatore 06:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
The article says that only the pitcher's and catcher's fielding position are fixed, but there's also a rule that says that all fielder (except for the catcher of course) must be in fair territory when the ball is pitched. -- 128.237.238.166 04:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure where else to put this, but I've seen on many players pages a ver batim copy of Baseball-Reference stats. This is ugly looking and doesn't update, while people could easily click the link and get today's stats. I think these should be deleted. Electricbassguy 02:32, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
3 Strikeouts- hat trick 4 Strikeouts- Golden sombrero What are 5 Strikeouts called?-- Kingforaday1620 23:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
It happens so infrequently that it doesn't really have a separate "hat" name. Instead it is occasionally called a "platinum sombrero" instead of a golden one. Then apparently six becomes a "titanium sombrero", though I've never actually heard this. (It's only ever happened a few times, in extra-inning games.) The golden sombrero entry has a few more details, and a list of major-leaguers who've done it. -- dakern74 ( talk) 05:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the Boston Red Sox and the Baltimore Orioles are not listed under "List of MLB Teams" at the bottom of the page? 151.154.41.61 17:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with the inclusion of the following sentence: "Some hitters hit better with runners in scoring position, so an opposing manager, knowing this statistic, might elect to intentionally walk him in order to face a worse hitter." Whether or not certain hitters perform better with runners in scoring position ("in the clutch") is actually the subject of debate ( clutch hitter), so I don't like that this statement presumes the existence of clutch hitters. I'm not sure how to best reword it though, as it's removal will leave the rest of the paragraph rather small. Mickeyg13 08:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
The article is somewhat unclear. Is baseball popular in China? They are in East Asia and have a professional league but the article is somewhat unclear if baseball is popular there. And what about Mongolia? Nil Einne 00:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Very informative article but for one thing...there seems to be little explanation of the scoring system. I understand the batting team gets a point for moving to second or to third base, what about from third to the plate? And is a homer worth any points other than those gained from advancing bases? 212.32.11.115 10:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I removed a picture of Yankee Stadium that was stacked on the one of Wrigley Field. My main reason for doing this is that the former picture isn't mentioned in the section, while the latter is. However, I was torn between either flushing the Yankee Stadium left and squishing the text, or simply removing it. So, I figured that if it needed to be mentioned, it should be in Baseball park. Of course, if you guys think otherwise, feel free to undo or adjust as necessary. Check out help on image syntax if you have any trouble. Cheers =) -- slakr\ talk / 01:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Why did the players go on strike in 1994?-- Kingforaday1620 22:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
"Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa both broke Roger Maris's long-standing single season home run record in 1998." This is in the history in the U.S. Section. Is that worded correctly? Technically, McGwire "broke" Maris' record, and Sosa just happened to surpass the old record. --Surfbruddah —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.188.183.5 ( talk) 20:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
It gets even more confusing. McGwire's 57th homer of the 1998 season broke Hack Wilson's National League all-time single season home run record (of 56), which had stood since 1930. Sosa's 57th homer, a couple days later, broke the Chicago Cubs' all-time single season home run record, also set by Hack Wilson in 1930.
Is it a nine player game or shall one say it is alternately a nine or ten person game, depending on the prevailing rules of the league or match?
Soft carebare ( talk) 05:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Someone, in good faith I'm sure, tried to change it to 9 players "at a time". That is a questionable way to put it, and is arguably "original research" or "analysis", because the rules do not make that statement, as noted above. Just as with American football, where you have two teams of 11 players. It's true that's at any one time - but that's always the case with any sport. Any sport has squads, substitutions, etc. The "at a time" part is confusing and redundant. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 06:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't Cooperstown have a lot to do with baseball. How come it's not mentioned once on the site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.6 ( talk) 23:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- The story that Abner Doubleday invented baseball in 1839 was once widely promoted and widely believed. There was and is no evidence for this claim, except for the testimony of one man decades after the fact, and there is more persuasive counter-evidence. See Origins of baseball.
LotR, The Hall of Fame is in Cooperstown because of the perpatuated myth. That fact isn't odd. It is telling. They may have named a field after him, but did you ever wonder why Doubleday was never elected to the Hall of Fame?
The stadium is still called Doubleday; I have no idea why. I imagine the Hall makes money out of keeping the myth alive. People get upset when their view of the world gets re-aligned. Think about when Pluto was no longer deemed a planet ( 2006 definition of planet). Kingturtle ( talk) 13:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I helped fix some misakes here. By the way,I thought Cooperstown is where baseball all started,or at least a version of baseball. I would like someone to add Cooperstown in the baseball article. Anyway I also like baseball.If you have any questions about baseball,ask me at-- RyRy5 ( talk) 04:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again. Like I said Who Knew.-- RyRy5 ( talk) 20:34, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, Pro games do not differ from little league games in terms of time very much. Pitching changes take a bit longer, but that is all. Little league games are 6 innings and are allowed roughly 2 hours (so about 1 hour for 3 innings). (They are usually a bit less, but it makes sense, because leagues want to finish games before the next scheduled game starts). Pro games are about 3 hours (a little less, but same with little league). This also is 1 hour for 3 innings.
I have been to Pro baseball games, both minor and major league. You don't have tv timeouts like in many other sports where you notice the break in the action as "extra." In baseball, the pitchers and other fielders warm up in between innings (While the home organization entertains the crowd), but the warm up time would take the same length if the game wasn't broadcast.
I'm not comparing this to older times, I'm just comparing this to non broadcast games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.89.134 ( talk) 21:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
This is small, but could be very misleading to people new to baseball:
The DH (designated hitter) is a player that hits for a defensive player (who is not in the batting lineup). This page says that player is the pitcher. At pro level, every DH hits for a pitcher, but that is because pitchers who are drafted are signed to a team for their pitching skills, even though their hitting isn't professional material. At lower levels, the DH usually isn't used. This article implies that it is always the pitcher, and that is the rule. It could be reworded to say it is usually the pitcher for the reasons I stated above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.89.134 ( talk) 21:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I would like to change the caption for the picture of the world series fielding strategy part of this website. They aren't playing in to field a bunt, they are playing in to make a shorter throw to the plate so the runner doesn't score. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robroman ( talk • contribs) 15:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Robroman, you are always welcome to make such changes yourself. :) Cheers, Kingturtle ( talk) 16:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
This article was de-featured in part because it contained too much detail. The rules section in particular was too long. In keeping with Wikipedia:Summary style, I have moved the details to a subarticle, baseball rules, and left behind a shorter summary. As it happens, a summary article, simplified baseball rules, already existed, so I merged that here and turned it into a redirect. The summary still needs to be improved, adding links and making sure it covers the major points in a satisfactory fashion. Some additional images taken from the main rules subarticle might also make this page more attractive and informative. -- Beland ( talk) 18:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Baseball/CommentsBB, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
There appears to be a missing segment (marked [***] below) in the section "Team at Bat -- Batters and Runners", [
[2]]:
A batter always drops his bat when running the bases— otherwise, the bat would slow him down and could give rise to a call of [***] fielder to catch it on its descent. The missing part would logically include the potential penalty for carrying the bat, followed by a description of a fly ball/pop-up. 82.131.251.54 15:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC) Searched article history until I found a pre-deletion version of the article and corrected the current article of the above erroe. Timpcrk87 05:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC) |
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