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@ Egeymi: As I've already mentioned in our conversation on my talk page, titles should be capitalized per MOS:BIO#Titles_of_people. The policy says as follows: They are capitalized only in the following cases: [...] When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself, is not plural, is not preceded by a modifier (including a definite or indefinite article), and is not a reworded description[.]
The words "Minister of the Interior" and "Minister of Culture and National Heritage" refer to the positions, not descriptions of them. As I mentioned before, that's the official capitalization used by the Polish government in English. [1] [2] They are also, as the policy says, not followed by an article. There is no reason to change Sienkiewicz has served as Minister of Culture and National Heritage... to Sienkiewicz has served as minister of culture and national heritage... - that is not correct. According to the policy, it would be possible to say Sienkiewicz has served as the minister of culture and national heritage..., but such rewording feels unnecessary (why not just list the position?) and goes against what other similar articles do anyway - Adam Szłapka, Borys Budka, Adam Bodnar, to name a few.
Please refrain from making baseless reverts, and please familiarize yourself with actual policies/ongoing processes before reverting. Max19582 ( talk) 21:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
You're again talking about Polish conventions which are totally irrelevant in this context. Giving examples from other pages is also not helpful.
As suggested to you, "If discussion does not resolve the issue, a Third Opinion can be requested", I'm proposing to take a third opion on the issue because you don't try to see this issue from a different angle. Egeymi ( talk) 03:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Third opinion: Seems like Max19582 is right, per "the official capitalization used by the Polish government in English. [3] [4]" and "per MOS:JOB as well, the policy does mention the "minister of X" type phrases being capitalized." IOHANNVSVERVS ( talk) 02:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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@ Egeymi: As I've already mentioned in our conversation on my talk page, titles should be capitalized per MOS:BIO#Titles_of_people. The policy says as follows: They are capitalized only in the following cases: [...] When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself, is not plural, is not preceded by a modifier (including a definite or indefinite article), and is not a reworded description[.]
The words "Minister of the Interior" and "Minister of Culture and National Heritage" refer to the positions, not descriptions of them. As I mentioned before, that's the official capitalization used by the Polish government in English. [1] [2] They are also, as the policy says, not followed by an article. There is no reason to change Sienkiewicz has served as Minister of Culture and National Heritage... to Sienkiewicz has served as minister of culture and national heritage... - that is not correct. According to the policy, it would be possible to say Sienkiewicz has served as the minister of culture and national heritage..., but such rewording feels unnecessary (why not just list the position?) and goes against what other similar articles do anyway - Adam Szłapka, Borys Budka, Adam Bodnar, to name a few.
Please refrain from making baseless reverts, and please familiarize yourself with actual policies/ongoing processes before reverting. Max19582 ( talk) 21:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
You're again talking about Polish conventions which are totally irrelevant in this context. Giving examples from other pages is also not helpful.
As suggested to you, "If discussion does not resolve the issue, a Third Opinion can be requested", I'm proposing to take a third opion on the issue because you don't try to see this issue from a different angle. Egeymi ( talk) 03:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Third opinion: Seems like Max19582 is right, per "the official capitalization used by the Polish government in English. [3] [4]" and "per MOS:JOB as well, the policy does mention the "minister of X" type phrases being capitalized." IOHANNVSVERVS ( talk) 02:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)