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I'd like to see SAI and HI get their own articles, with links under an "Affiliated organizations" header. The history of those two, and especially the detail of the split, strike me as out of the scope of an article about the Society. Now we just need to find some representative SAI and HI members to write them . . . Ventura 18:24, 2004 Sep 3 (UTC)
"SPEBSQSA was the official name, while the Barbershop Harmony Society was an officially recognized and sanctioned alternative name" Is this correct? I thought the name (BHS) was new, and everyone I know referred to SPEBSQSA as 'the Society'... Rrex 14:00, 2006 Jul 20 (UTC)
This section matches nearly word-for-word with the article for SPEBSQSA. It should either be reworded, merged, or removed. Trekkie4christ 04:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The regional organisation ( districts) all have articles, which are stubs for the most part. According to WP:ORG, these would not be notable. SOme of the articles contain mentions of chapter member organisations which have won prizes at national level or beyond, but there appears to be little in the article which asserts the importance of the district themselves (as opposed to its members). Membership information has been merged in this article, and the regional articles have been prodded. Ohconfucius 07:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
The list was getting way too long. For now, I have removed all those not claiming a current or past medal (top 5) I saw. Personaly, I think the restriction should be just past champions and those with current medals. Jon 22:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
* Cambridge Chord Company, twice European champion barbershop chorus and British Association of Barbershop Singers gold medalists, "Choir of the World" International Eisteddfod 2004, based in England
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LeadSongDog 00:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The list of quartets is getting long again. This list has everyone, so the list in this article should just be for the most notable. -- Lasunncty ( talk) 21:37, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
The map has the eastern portion of AR in Dixie District but the text doesn't. The map also doesn't have any part of AR in Central States, but the text does. These need to be reconcilized. Jon 21:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone care to start a section? Seems like it's worthy of it, if not it's own article. LeadSongDog 01:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Although SPEBSQSA and SAI's racial exclusivity in their very early days may be embarrassing to these organizations today, and although these organizations have long since put it behind them, it is nevertheless an historical fact which should not be whitewashed. In 1941, the Grand Central Redcaps, a black quartet, won an important non-SPEBSQSA barbershopping contest in New York, attempted to enter a SPEBSQSA contest, and were refused by O. C. Cash himself, an event which made New York Times headlines at the time. Dpbsmith (talk) 21:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
“ | in 1968 Ester Wilfong, a teacher from Tacoma who was president of the 38,000-member Washington Education Association, became the first black man admitted, and the first black member of any non-black social club in Washington state. | ” |
- Historylink.org LeadSongDog ( talk) 06:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I have come across a reference in some old (1962) chapter literature to an interesting tidbit of Society history. -- The Society was originally incorporated in 1938 under the name "the Society for the Preservation and Propagation of Barber Shop Quartet Singing in the United States". The name was changed to SPEBSQSA, some time later. So I looked it up and this is corroborated on page 101 of the "Four Parts, No Waiting" book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geipel ( talk • contribs) 02:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
The listed membership figure is for 2007. Anyone have anything more current? Dpbsmith (talk) 10:54, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Just under 24,000 members as of Sep. 30, 2112. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.95.251.104 ( talk) 02:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
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Regarding the proposed merge of Singing Valentines article content, I'd suggest it would be better incorporated into the Barbershop music article, rather than one society's article, as such fundraising is done by all three of the genre's major organizations. — ADavidB 04:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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Is this importand enough to merit inclusion? 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 18:34, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
It’s very peculiar to me that the high profile lawsuit between the society and the foundation does not rate a mention in this Wikipedia article. I think the lawsuit is still active, yes?
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I'd like to see SAI and HI get their own articles, with links under an "Affiliated organizations" header. The history of those two, and especially the detail of the split, strike me as out of the scope of an article about the Society. Now we just need to find some representative SAI and HI members to write them . . . Ventura 18:24, 2004 Sep 3 (UTC)
"SPEBSQSA was the official name, while the Barbershop Harmony Society was an officially recognized and sanctioned alternative name" Is this correct? I thought the name (BHS) was new, and everyone I know referred to SPEBSQSA as 'the Society'... Rrex 14:00, 2006 Jul 20 (UTC)
This section matches nearly word-for-word with the article for SPEBSQSA. It should either be reworded, merged, or removed. Trekkie4christ 04:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The regional organisation ( districts) all have articles, which are stubs for the most part. According to WP:ORG, these would not be notable. SOme of the articles contain mentions of chapter member organisations which have won prizes at national level or beyond, but there appears to be little in the article which asserts the importance of the district themselves (as opposed to its members). Membership information has been merged in this article, and the regional articles have been prodded. Ohconfucius 07:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
The list was getting way too long. For now, I have removed all those not claiming a current or past medal (top 5) I saw. Personaly, I think the restriction should be just past champions and those with current medals. Jon 22:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
* Cambridge Chord Company, twice European champion barbershop chorus and British Association of Barbershop Singers gold medalists, "Choir of the World" International Eisteddfod 2004, based in England
and
LeadSongDog 00:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The list of quartets is getting long again. This list has everyone, so the list in this article should just be for the most notable. -- Lasunncty ( talk) 21:37, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
The map has the eastern portion of AR in Dixie District but the text doesn't. The map also doesn't have any part of AR in Central States, but the text does. These need to be reconcilized. Jon 21:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone care to start a section? Seems like it's worthy of it, if not it's own article. LeadSongDog 01:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Although SPEBSQSA and SAI's racial exclusivity in their very early days may be embarrassing to these organizations today, and although these organizations have long since put it behind them, it is nevertheless an historical fact which should not be whitewashed. In 1941, the Grand Central Redcaps, a black quartet, won an important non-SPEBSQSA barbershopping contest in New York, attempted to enter a SPEBSQSA contest, and were refused by O. C. Cash himself, an event which made New York Times headlines at the time. Dpbsmith (talk) 21:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
“ | in 1968 Ester Wilfong, a teacher from Tacoma who was president of the 38,000-member Washington Education Association, became the first black man admitted, and the first black member of any non-black social club in Washington state. | ” |
- Historylink.org LeadSongDog ( talk) 06:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I have come across a reference in some old (1962) chapter literature to an interesting tidbit of Society history. -- The Society was originally incorporated in 1938 under the name "the Society for the Preservation and Propagation of Barber Shop Quartet Singing in the United States". The name was changed to SPEBSQSA, some time later. So I looked it up and this is corroborated on page 101 of the "Four Parts, No Waiting" book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geipel ( talk • contribs) 02:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
The listed membership figure is for 2007. Anyone have anything more current? Dpbsmith (talk) 10:54, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Just under 24,000 members as of Sep. 30, 2112. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.95.251.104 ( talk) 02:50, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
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Regarding the proposed merge of Singing Valentines article content, I'd suggest it would be better incorporated into the Barbershop music article, rather than one society's article, as such fundraising is done by all three of the genre's major organizations. — ADavidB 04:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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Is this importand enough to merit inclusion? 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 18:34, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
It’s very peculiar to me that the high profile lawsuit between the society and the foundation does not rate a mention in this Wikipedia article. I think the lawsuit is still active, yes?