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This article contains a translation of Suku Banten from id.wikipedia. ( 802595145 et seq.)

I have removed the word 'harsh' in the introductory section, but left it in the later discussion of language. I can see that it may be a translation into English of an Indonesian or Sundanese word that corresponds to 'informal.' However, in English it suggests a value judgment corresponding to 'ugly' or 'uncivilized,' and should either be explained as a native (rather than analytical) term, or avoided. Winter Maiden ( talk) 21:44, 24 December 2012 (UTC) reply

StartQuote: "However, around Serang and Cilegon, Banten Province, a dialect of the Javanese language, the Banyumasan is also spoken by about 500,000 people.[11]" EndQuote

I do not see that Banten Javanese (or Serang Javanese) is equal to Banyumasan. The reference from ethnologue also does not mention about it. In fact, Banten Javanese is a dialect of Javanese on its own. Kembangraps ( talk) 07:04, 12 October 2021 (UTC) reply