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A kecamatan is a subdistrict. On the other hand, there are two kinds of Indonesian district (Daerah Tingkat II or litteraly "2nd Level Territory" ): regency (Kabupaten) and municipality (Kotamadya). The difference is that a "Kabupaten" is a rural district and a "Kotamadya" is an urban district. Bye Meursault2004 23:42, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Bantam (city) should be merged in here. Jpatokal 15:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
The link 'Kujang' in Culture points to a totally different item. Nothing changed yet as I can't make a page about the 'Kujang' mentioned here. Indahnesia 12:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
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As far as i know, there's no such ethnic group called Bantenese. This term probably point to the peoples living in Banten area, and according to historical records/inscriptions, those peoples are Sundanese. Significant (and probably drastic) changes in the community/population structure happened when Banten became an independent territory (Banten was one of Sundanese international ports besides Sunda Kalapa, and some others along the north coast of Western part of Java) which was supproted by muslims from Cirebon & Mataram (lots of them are Javanese, on my opinion). But, still, we can define their ethnicity as Sundanese, Javanese, Chinese, and others, or mixed between them, but not as an independent ethnicity called 'Bantenese'. -- kandar 10:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I wonder how valid these data are (even it was published formally by BPS)? They are using their own interpretation though... I might can compare this case with saying that I am Garutese (Garut people). Wait and see, when and how we or others describe 'Bantenese'. :D -- kandar 12:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hahaha... But still, i didn't found any definition about bantenese in all those references. About 'sumawijaya', heheh, in fact it is a typical sundanese name. It is not about claiming that "i am bantenese, and not sundanese." ethnic is something genetic, where we can trace who our ancestors are. It might be similar with Betawi, whose ancestors are still around sundanese (plus other 'immirants' yg telah bercampur gaul dalam waktu yg lumayan lama sehingga membentuk apa yg kita lihat sekarang--sorry, nulis in english makes me pegel-pegel). Anyway, i am not in a position to judge that someone are sundanese, buginese, or anything. but about ethnicity, we have two point of view. Culturally, i am sundanese, but genetically, i am 'indo' Sunda-Jawa, and it is not valid to say that i am sundanese or javanese. it's depends on the context. But when it is entering statistical reports, what should i say? Thats what was happened. maaf kalo 'bahasa inggris' saya bukan bahasa inggris :D -- kandar 15:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Bantenese share the same culture with Sundanese, they share the same language with Sundanese (unfortunately, article about Bantenese says that they speak Indonesian), and they also share the same majority religion with Sundanese. Those who born or/and grow or/and lives in Banten can call themselves as Bantenese, and ofcourse the native Sundanese too... [4]:
No, I don't think that Javanese & Sundanese have different genetical characteristics, but the fact said so. A study on Indonesian population genetics observed three clusters of Indonesian populations (Sumatra-Jawa-Kalimantan, Sulawesi-Nusa Tenggara, and Nusa Tenggara-Papua), and variations in population characteristics were noted. Ssssttt.... I wont give you the reference, its still secret! Heheh...
In terms of linguistics, there are no principal differences between Sundanese in Banten and Garut, for example. The difference observed (polite vs impolite) were based on external factor: Priangan as a vassal of Sultan Agung's Mataram, so that they also adopted the Javanese's 'undak-usuk bahasa'. Some of Sundanese in remote areas (who were not reached by the polite Priangan Sundanese) such as Bogor, Southern Garut & Cianjur, again for example, share the similiar Sundanese 'variant' with Bantenese (minus Jawa-Serang/Reang influence).
Namun, mau gimana juga gak mungkin maksa. Kalo mereka katakan mereka 'anu', dan bukan 'una', ya let it be aja... Lebih banyak, lebih seru, gpp dibilang etnis baru juga... -- kandar 18:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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A kecamatan is a subdistrict. On the other hand, there are two kinds of Indonesian district (Daerah Tingkat II or litteraly "2nd Level Territory" ): regency (Kabupaten) and municipality (Kotamadya). The difference is that a "Kabupaten" is a rural district and a "Kotamadya" is an urban district. Bye Meursault2004 23:42, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Bantam (city) should be merged in here. Jpatokal 15:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
The link 'Kujang' in Culture points to a totally different item. Nothing changed yet as I can't make a page about the 'Kujang' mentioned here. Indahnesia 12:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
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As far as i know, there's no such ethnic group called Bantenese. This term probably point to the peoples living in Banten area, and according to historical records/inscriptions, those peoples are Sundanese. Significant (and probably drastic) changes in the community/population structure happened when Banten became an independent territory (Banten was one of Sundanese international ports besides Sunda Kalapa, and some others along the north coast of Western part of Java) which was supproted by muslims from Cirebon & Mataram (lots of them are Javanese, on my opinion). But, still, we can define their ethnicity as Sundanese, Javanese, Chinese, and others, or mixed between them, but not as an independent ethnicity called 'Bantenese'. -- kandar 10:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I wonder how valid these data are (even it was published formally by BPS)? They are using their own interpretation though... I might can compare this case with saying that I am Garutese (Garut people). Wait and see, when and how we or others describe 'Bantenese'. :D -- kandar 12:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hahaha... But still, i didn't found any definition about bantenese in all those references. About 'sumawijaya', heheh, in fact it is a typical sundanese name. It is not about claiming that "i am bantenese, and not sundanese." ethnic is something genetic, where we can trace who our ancestors are. It might be similar with Betawi, whose ancestors are still around sundanese (plus other 'immirants' yg telah bercampur gaul dalam waktu yg lumayan lama sehingga membentuk apa yg kita lihat sekarang--sorry, nulis in english makes me pegel-pegel). Anyway, i am not in a position to judge that someone are sundanese, buginese, or anything. but about ethnicity, we have two point of view. Culturally, i am sundanese, but genetically, i am 'indo' Sunda-Jawa, and it is not valid to say that i am sundanese or javanese. it's depends on the context. But when it is entering statistical reports, what should i say? Thats what was happened. maaf kalo 'bahasa inggris' saya bukan bahasa inggris :D -- kandar 15:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Bantenese share the same culture with Sundanese, they share the same language with Sundanese (unfortunately, article about Bantenese says that they speak Indonesian), and they also share the same majority religion with Sundanese. Those who born or/and grow or/and lives in Banten can call themselves as Bantenese, and ofcourse the native Sundanese too... [4]:
No, I don't think that Javanese & Sundanese have different genetical characteristics, but the fact said so. A study on Indonesian population genetics observed three clusters of Indonesian populations (Sumatra-Jawa-Kalimantan, Sulawesi-Nusa Tenggara, and Nusa Tenggara-Papua), and variations in population characteristics were noted. Ssssttt.... I wont give you the reference, its still secret! Heheh...
In terms of linguistics, there are no principal differences between Sundanese in Banten and Garut, for example. The difference observed (polite vs impolite) were based on external factor: Priangan as a vassal of Sultan Agung's Mataram, so that they also adopted the Javanese's 'undak-usuk bahasa'. Some of Sundanese in remote areas (who were not reached by the polite Priangan Sundanese) such as Bogor, Southern Garut & Cianjur, again for example, share the similiar Sundanese 'variant' with Bantenese (minus Jawa-Serang/Reang influence).
Namun, mau gimana juga gak mungkin maksa. Kalo mereka katakan mereka 'anu', dan bukan 'una', ya let it be aja... Lebih banyak, lebih seru, gpp dibilang etnis baru juga... -- kandar 18:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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