I created this article for the purpose of covering the topic of the conglomerate Bandai Namco Group and the existing article, Namco Bandai Holdings, should only focus on the holding company itself, not the corporate group for which it acts as a holding company. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 22:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Does anybody know if Bandai Namco Group counts as a keiretsu? If this is the case I will add the appropriate links / categories to the article, but I'm not very familiar with what japanese conglomerates count as keiretsu and which do not. Perhaps all corporate groups / conglomerates originating in Japan are keiretsu? Help on this is welcome. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 16:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not at all clear on what distinction is being made between the holding company and the "corporate group for which it acts". There may be an argument that "Bandai Namco Group" is the more significant topic than the legal entity that represents them, but they are meaningfully the same thing, and I don't see a reason to split the article. As is, the original article is full of crufty details about its internal organization. We don't need more of that, we need more meaningful coverage of what the company is and does. I don't have a strong preference either way for what the article is called, but I'd like to see a consensus form on this before continuing further with a split. Ham Pastrami ( talk) 05:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I've thought about the organisation of the articles Bandai Namco Group and Namco Bandai Holdings and after exhaustive internet search I've found that there is very little information about Bandai Namco Group available in any sources and that most sources seem to confuse the two. I think it will perhaps be impossible to expand the group article any further. Thus I think the two articles should be merged. It would perhaps be the best thing to keep the article Bandai Namco Group and merge info from Namco Bandai Holdings into it. I think it makes more sense to have a section about the holding company in an article about Bandai Namco Group than the other way round. After all the group is the more general thing and the holding company is only one of the many companies of that group, like Bandai Co., Namco Ltd., Namco Bandai Games Inc., Bandai Visual Co. Ltd. etc. So I oppose to merge Bandai Namco Group into Namco Bandai Holdings, but instead support merging Namco Bandai Holdings into Bandai Namco Group. The Namco Bandai Holdings article is in a much poorer shape than the Bandai Namco Group article anyway, thus it should work well this way. Thoughts, opinions, comments? Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 19:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Regarding previous discussions and realizing that the creation of this article by me was a mistake as well as my false opinion of this articles importance compared to the holding company article, I nominated this article for deletion as keeping it would lead to duplication of content from Namco Bandai Holdings. I moved all content from here that might be relevant to the Namco Bandai Holdings article there. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 12:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
I created this article for the purpose of covering the topic of the conglomerate Bandai Namco Group and the existing article, Namco Bandai Holdings, should only focus on the holding company itself, not the corporate group for which it acts as a holding company. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 22:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Does anybody know if Bandai Namco Group counts as a keiretsu? If this is the case I will add the appropriate links / categories to the article, but I'm not very familiar with what japanese conglomerates count as keiretsu and which do not. Perhaps all corporate groups / conglomerates originating in Japan are keiretsu? Help on this is welcome. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 16:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not at all clear on what distinction is being made between the holding company and the "corporate group for which it acts". There may be an argument that "Bandai Namco Group" is the more significant topic than the legal entity that represents them, but they are meaningfully the same thing, and I don't see a reason to split the article. As is, the original article is full of crufty details about its internal organization. We don't need more of that, we need more meaningful coverage of what the company is and does. I don't have a strong preference either way for what the article is called, but I'd like to see a consensus form on this before continuing further with a split. Ham Pastrami ( talk) 05:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I've thought about the organisation of the articles Bandai Namco Group and Namco Bandai Holdings and after exhaustive internet search I've found that there is very little information about Bandai Namco Group available in any sources and that most sources seem to confuse the two. I think it will perhaps be impossible to expand the group article any further. Thus I think the two articles should be merged. It would perhaps be the best thing to keep the article Bandai Namco Group and merge info from Namco Bandai Holdings into it. I think it makes more sense to have a section about the holding company in an article about Bandai Namco Group than the other way round. After all the group is the more general thing and the holding company is only one of the many companies of that group, like Bandai Co., Namco Ltd., Namco Bandai Games Inc., Bandai Visual Co. Ltd. etc. So I oppose to merge Bandai Namco Group into Namco Bandai Holdings, but instead support merging Namco Bandai Holdings into Bandai Namco Group. The Namco Bandai Holdings article is in a much poorer shape than the Bandai Namco Group article anyway, thus it should work well this way. Thoughts, opinions, comments? Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 19:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Regarding previous discussions and realizing that the creation of this article by me was a mistake as well as my false opinion of this articles importance compared to the holding company article, I nominated this article for deletion as keeping it would lead to duplication of content from Namco Bandai Holdings. I moved all content from here that might be relevant to the Namco Bandai Holdings article there. Toshio Yamaguchi ( talk) 12:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC)