This
level-5 vital article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Mpmarsh2.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 15:14, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
I am adding a link to the Baja California Regional Investment Guide of UnderstandMexico. It is still a work in progress but has significantly more investment information about Baja California than any other place on the Internet, including listings of Shelter Companies, the baja investment promotion agencies, most of the Baja Real Estate developers and the beginnings of a listing of the available real estate, lawyers, auditing firms, etc. If anybody finds this controversial feel free to contact me. Aburda ( talk) 05:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
According to the state constitution, chapter 3, article 6, Baja California has an official coat of arms but no official flag. The FOTW web site states that the coat of arms on a white background is used as an unofficial flag. As this flag is unofficial and its display in addition to the coat of arms visually adds little to the infobox, I am not sure that it's beneficial to place it in the infobox. Spacepotato ( talk) 23:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm a "bajacalifoniano", and I'm a "cachanilla" too but this is only because I was born in Mexicali. The inhabitans of Mexicali are called "Cachanillas" because the history of this place. The cachanilla plant don't grow in western coast of Baja California and its inhabitants didn't make their first houses or huts with this plant.
And... yes, "mexicalense" is the oficial term to refer to the inhabitans of Mexicali, but "cachanillas" also refer to us. Mexicalense and cachanilla are correct denominations for people that was born in Mexicali.
In the History section it should say Spanish instead of Europeans. i.e. "At the time of European contact ..." and "Europeans reached the present state of Baja California in 1539". Spain is an European country, but the discoveries of the Americas and Spanish Empire should be propperly regarded. I'll change it myself unless arguments can be brought up here. -- >))))º> (talk) 01:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
There are no citations for the figures provided in the demographics section. I think this section should be removed until reliable sources can be provided. Namenderkrieg ( talk) 23:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The states name is Baja California, and the peninsula has its own title to clear up confusion. It is unnecessary to have the state at the end. 08OceanBeach SD ( talk) 02:04, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
No, as the massive wrong links show e.g.:
So, I oppose moving back. Eldizzino ( talk) 17:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I reverted the unilateral move by "08OceanBeach SD". That used caused a lot of trouble, see Talk:Municipalities of Baja California#Page moves by gone user. Eldizzino ( talk) 18:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I received the following threat on my talk page:
You may not be aware of how the process works. You made a controversial edit, it was reverted. You do NOT continue to move the articles name. If you wish to have the article moved, you should use the WP:RM process. I advise you to move the article back immediately, before I file an edit warring report.-- JOJ Hutton 18:42, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Then the above threat. Now, I think that Jojhutton ignores Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, which states, that one should be explicit about the reasons for a revert. Jojhutton didn't gave a valid reason, there was a misinformed one that was addressed and there was a procedural one that does not apply, since "Articles should only be moved without discussion if there is no opposition." I agree with the latter, but reason-based opposition (When reverting, be specific about your reasons) is not known to me. Eldizzino ( talk) 18:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Why does the History section contain so much history of the southern part of the peninsula? The history of the whole peninsula can go under Baja California peninsula#History, this history section should focus on the northern part of the peninsula. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for the coordinates of the Mexican state of Baja California. It should be more than 30 degrees north, since the southern limit is 28o and the northern limit is 32.5o.
— 189.149.112.108 ( talk) 07:45, 20 October 2013 (UTC) Luis Martin Gutierrez
Baja California may be half European or "white" and 45% mestizo or mixed-race (European/American Indian), but the Mexican government and census never counted people by race since the 1920s. Large percentage of American Indians or indigenous Mexicans in Baja Cal. came from the southern Mexican states of Chiapas and Oaxaca, while there are some Apache and small remnants of Californian Indians along the US-Mexican border. The Cherokee descent population originated in the (eastern and central) US, which are a sizable component of the American Indian or indigenous Mexican population. 67.49.89.214 ( talk) 14:45, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Baja California. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 09:26, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Baja California. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 17:17, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Baja California. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 22:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Should this article have a flag inside the infobox? There is a discussion about it at WikiProject Mexico, where you can join and discuss it. (CC) Tbhotch ™ 20:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I think we should follow the example of Georgia (U.S. state) and Washington (state). Anythingyouwant ( talk) 14:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Isn’t Baja California (the peninsula) famous like Georgia the country and Washington the city? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 20:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Pageviews were proposed as a reason to keep the status quo; while arguments were proffered to claim that the peninsula is called "Baja California" (a point which received no rebuttal), there were no compelling reasons provided to overturn the predominance of page views. ( non-admin closure) Red Slash 17:46, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
– This proposed arrangement is fairly standard. I suppose the main objection will be creating “Baja California (state)”, but this is a common move when other things have the same name and are just as common. See, for example:
References
This
level-5 vital article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: Mpmarsh2.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 15:14, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
I am adding a link to the Baja California Regional Investment Guide of UnderstandMexico. It is still a work in progress but has significantly more investment information about Baja California than any other place on the Internet, including listings of Shelter Companies, the baja investment promotion agencies, most of the Baja Real Estate developers and the beginnings of a listing of the available real estate, lawyers, auditing firms, etc. If anybody finds this controversial feel free to contact me. Aburda ( talk) 05:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
According to the state constitution, chapter 3, article 6, Baja California has an official coat of arms but no official flag. The FOTW web site states that the coat of arms on a white background is used as an unofficial flag. As this flag is unofficial and its display in addition to the coat of arms visually adds little to the infobox, I am not sure that it's beneficial to place it in the infobox. Spacepotato ( talk) 23:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm a "bajacalifoniano", and I'm a "cachanilla" too but this is only because I was born in Mexicali. The inhabitans of Mexicali are called "Cachanillas" because the history of this place. The cachanilla plant don't grow in western coast of Baja California and its inhabitants didn't make their first houses or huts with this plant.
And... yes, "mexicalense" is the oficial term to refer to the inhabitans of Mexicali, but "cachanillas" also refer to us. Mexicalense and cachanilla are correct denominations for people that was born in Mexicali.
In the History section it should say Spanish instead of Europeans. i.e. "At the time of European contact ..." and "Europeans reached the present state of Baja California in 1539". Spain is an European country, but the discoveries of the Americas and Spanish Empire should be propperly regarded. I'll change it myself unless arguments can be brought up here. -- >))))º> (talk) 01:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
There are no citations for the figures provided in the demographics section. I think this section should be removed until reliable sources can be provided. Namenderkrieg ( talk) 23:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The states name is Baja California, and the peninsula has its own title to clear up confusion. It is unnecessary to have the state at the end. 08OceanBeach SD ( talk) 02:04, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
No, as the massive wrong links show e.g.:
So, I oppose moving back. Eldizzino ( talk) 17:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I reverted the unilateral move by "08OceanBeach SD". That used caused a lot of trouble, see Talk:Municipalities of Baja California#Page moves by gone user. Eldizzino ( talk) 18:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
I received the following threat on my talk page:
You may not be aware of how the process works. You made a controversial edit, it was reverted. You do NOT continue to move the articles name. If you wish to have the article moved, you should use the WP:RM process. I advise you to move the article back immediately, before I file an edit warring report.-- JOJ Hutton 18:42, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Then the above threat. Now, I think that Jojhutton ignores Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, which states, that one should be explicit about the reasons for a revert. Jojhutton didn't gave a valid reason, there was a misinformed one that was addressed and there was a procedural one that does not apply, since "Articles should only be moved without discussion if there is no opposition." I agree with the latter, but reason-based opposition (When reverting, be specific about your reasons) is not known to me. Eldizzino ( talk) 18:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Why does the History section contain so much history of the southern part of the peninsula? The history of the whole peninsula can go under Baja California peninsula#History, this history section should focus on the northern part of the peninsula. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk • contribs) 21:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for the coordinates of the Mexican state of Baja California. It should be more than 30 degrees north, since the southern limit is 28o and the northern limit is 32.5o.
— 189.149.112.108 ( talk) 07:45, 20 October 2013 (UTC) Luis Martin Gutierrez
Baja California may be half European or "white" and 45% mestizo or mixed-race (European/American Indian), but the Mexican government and census never counted people by race since the 1920s. Large percentage of American Indians or indigenous Mexicans in Baja Cal. came from the southern Mexican states of Chiapas and Oaxaca, while there are some Apache and small remnants of Californian Indians along the US-Mexican border. The Cherokee descent population originated in the (eastern and central) US, which are a sizable component of the American Indian or indigenous Mexican population. 67.49.89.214 ( talk) 14:45, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Baja California. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 09:26, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Baja California. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{
Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 17:17, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Baja California. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 22:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Should this article have a flag inside the infobox? There is a discussion about it at WikiProject Mexico, where you can join and discuss it. (CC) Tbhotch ™ 20:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I think we should follow the example of Georgia (U.S. state) and Washington (state). Anythingyouwant ( talk) 14:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Isn’t Baja California (the peninsula) famous like Georgia the country and Washington the city? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 20:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Pageviews were proposed as a reason to keep the status quo; while arguments were proffered to claim that the peninsula is called "Baja California" (a point which received no rebuttal), there were no compelling reasons provided to overturn the predominance of page views. ( non-admin closure) Red Slash 17:46, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
– This proposed arrangement is fairly standard. I suppose the main objection will be creating “Baja California (state)”, but this is a common move when other things have the same name and are just as common. See, for example:
References