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The statement "No well-known English language term for this phenomenon exists because fortunately the English-speaking countries have not experienced crises that would have given rise to it."
does not add any extra value to the article and sounds like looking down on the Russians.
I would like if the line is take out by the writer.
One issue I have with this article is that the word "bag people" sounds a lot like the American term for a catagory of vagrant -- best known as "bag ladies" -- who carry their worldly possessions (usually little more than miscellaneous junk & items scavanged from the trash) in either bags or shopping carts (or, as the British call them, trollies).
Once I read the article & made the necessary mental readjustment, I had no problem with the article; but it makes a weird image to think that the meals tens of thousands of city dwellers might depend on the ability of vagrants with a questionable grasp on reality pushing shopping carts for countless miles into the countryside & back.
I don't know how this problem can be solved, but a lot of Americans will be initially confused by this unintended similarity! -- llywrch 00:14, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Sometimes they're also called as 'челночник' (singular), 'челночники' (plural). -- Yonkie 12:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Interesting discussion. Yes, it gives me inspiration to weigh each word before using the same. -- Bhadani 10:38, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
челночники (chelnochniki) is a modern term which appeared in 1990s. It is not the same as meshochniki of the time of 1917-1921. Chelnochniki are "shuttle traders" (from челнок which means shuttle) who go abroad to buy clothes, etc., take them to Russia and resell them. Sometimes chelnochniki also come to buy goods e.g. in Moscow from other cities. Made amendments in this article. There is an English wiki article on chelnochniki Olegwiki ( talk) 10:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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The statement "No well-known English language term for this phenomenon exists because fortunately the English-speaking countries have not experienced crises that would have given rise to it."
does not add any extra value to the article and sounds like looking down on the Russians.
I would like if the line is take out by the writer.
One issue I have with this article is that the word "bag people" sounds a lot like the American term for a catagory of vagrant -- best known as "bag ladies" -- who carry their worldly possessions (usually little more than miscellaneous junk & items scavanged from the trash) in either bags or shopping carts (or, as the British call them, trollies).
Once I read the article & made the necessary mental readjustment, I had no problem with the article; but it makes a weird image to think that the meals tens of thousands of city dwellers might depend on the ability of vagrants with a questionable grasp on reality pushing shopping carts for countless miles into the countryside & back.
I don't know how this problem can be solved, but a lot of Americans will be initially confused by this unintended similarity! -- llywrch 00:14, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
Sometimes they're also called as 'челночник' (singular), 'челночники' (plural). -- Yonkie 12:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Interesting discussion. Yes, it gives me inspiration to weigh each word before using the same. -- Bhadani 10:38, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
челночники (chelnochniki) is a modern term which appeared in 1990s. It is not the same as meshochniki of the time of 1917-1921. Chelnochniki are "shuttle traders" (from челнок which means shuttle) who go abroad to buy clothes, etc., take them to Russia and resell them. Sometimes chelnochniki also come to buy goods e.g. in Moscow from other cities. Made amendments in this article. There is an English wiki article on chelnochniki Olegwiki ( talk) 10:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)