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What is a valid 'source' for an external link? Is Lurker's Guide the only trustworthy non-commercial source? The blog entry which keeps getting deleted has no ads and is not spam related. It is simply an independent review of the latest and greatest from JMS.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.131.87 ( talk • contribs)
You're treating this section as if it's your own personal fiefdom which it most definitely is not. As stated before, linking to blogs is not for spam or monetary generating purposes but to provide a critique of the film. Suggestion: a section of the page dedicated to links of reviews. Then readers won't get confused with 'official' sources.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.131.87 ( talk • contribs)
As WP:RS clearly states "Posts to bulletin boards, Usenet, and wikis, or messages left on blogs, should not be used as primary or secondary sources". If we look to the current article state however, we'll see that this describes a lot of the article's sources.
Most of the info is based on JMS newsgroup posts, and probably a good deal of future info will be too. While newsgroup post have been deemed non reliable, for good reason, I feel that JMS's posts are an exception. In addition, I feel that once his messages have been picked up by the JMSNews.net archiving system, a message archive that is independently owned and operated, but does carry the approval of JMS (see the second question in their FAQ), a level of accountability and verifiability has been added to the presentation of these messages there (because of the introduction of a 'middle man' that says 'these are really from JMS, and I operate under his approval, even if there is no official connection beyond that'), and these can safely be used as reliable sources. Sometimes it takes a while before the archive system picks up a message, and I used google groups links in those cases. As soon as the archive system picks it up though, links should be changed to point there. -- Codemonkey 22:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
JMS's postings frequently get reprinted in the news sections of sci-fi magazines. The existence of the series will be confirmed in a press release by the studio. Andrew Swallow 14:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
All B5 episodes have thier own episodes, and I belive Voices should be no exception. I also belive that if the episode page is split from the series (TLT) page, this will prompt some expansive editing on both of them. Voices in the Dark counts as an episode, so I belive it deserves its own article. TLT is the series, like Crusade (TV series) is a series. I would be greatful if someone would respond and if possible even do it. Thanks. Tom walker 17:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Parts of the article are written in future tense and parts in present tense. Now that the first DVD has been written, tenses should be cleaned up. For instance, the part discussing JMS's writing schedule. Shsilver 18:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I had my undone but I find it useful to know when this episode takes place in terms of the whole timeline and I think A Call to Arms is the best thing to put this relative to. Not counting crusade and not counting any novels, it's the last thing that most people remember. Watching the episode, I kept wondering how many years had passed since Earth got infected by the Drakh plague so I think it's notworthy to put the number of years since call to arms. Thoughts? Pocopocopocopoco 22: 54:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
How much did the first DVD, Voices in the Dark, make? The article talks about how it was a success but how much did it make.-- Crab182 12:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The only thing stopping this article from having a higher rating is the absence of a cast list with character names in the body of the article. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 07:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
The main article on WP for what this publication is, is " Direct-to-video". It includes concepts like "direct-to-DVD".
The current article is I feel poorly written, because it attempts to assert a broadcast or cablecast of a thing that was actually published in a specific medium (I just hit myself in the head with it; the DVD exists as a publication, unlike a broadcast or cablecast that happened in the past and may or may not have been published in a fixed medium later).
To that end, I'd like to remove all references to TV from the article. If anybody has any evidence that the work was broadcast or cablecast, please add it, with citation, to the article body (I'm not finding anything at all). I'll start by changing the Infobox to the 2009 version of 'Infobox film'. I tried to find a better Infobox, but there isn't anything pretty that exists that I could find. 'Infobox television' just ain't doin' it here. — Aladdin Sane ( talk) 06:02, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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What is a valid 'source' for an external link? Is Lurker's Guide the only trustworthy non-commercial source? The blog entry which keeps getting deleted has no ads and is not spam related. It is simply an independent review of the latest and greatest from JMS.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.131.87 ( talk • contribs)
You're treating this section as if it's your own personal fiefdom which it most definitely is not. As stated before, linking to blogs is not for spam or monetary generating purposes but to provide a critique of the film. Suggestion: a section of the page dedicated to links of reviews. Then readers won't get confused with 'official' sources.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.131.87 ( talk • contribs)
As WP:RS clearly states "Posts to bulletin boards, Usenet, and wikis, or messages left on blogs, should not be used as primary or secondary sources". If we look to the current article state however, we'll see that this describes a lot of the article's sources.
Most of the info is based on JMS newsgroup posts, and probably a good deal of future info will be too. While newsgroup post have been deemed non reliable, for good reason, I feel that JMS's posts are an exception. In addition, I feel that once his messages have been picked up by the JMSNews.net archiving system, a message archive that is independently owned and operated, but does carry the approval of JMS (see the second question in their FAQ), a level of accountability and verifiability has been added to the presentation of these messages there (because of the introduction of a 'middle man' that says 'these are really from JMS, and I operate under his approval, even if there is no official connection beyond that'), and these can safely be used as reliable sources. Sometimes it takes a while before the archive system picks up a message, and I used google groups links in those cases. As soon as the archive system picks it up though, links should be changed to point there. -- Codemonkey 22:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
JMS's postings frequently get reprinted in the news sections of sci-fi magazines. The existence of the series will be confirmed in a press release by the studio. Andrew Swallow 14:56, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
All B5 episodes have thier own episodes, and I belive Voices should be no exception. I also belive that if the episode page is split from the series (TLT) page, this will prompt some expansive editing on both of them. Voices in the Dark counts as an episode, so I belive it deserves its own article. TLT is the series, like Crusade (TV series) is a series. I would be greatful if someone would respond and if possible even do it. Thanks. Tom walker 17:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Parts of the article are written in future tense and parts in present tense. Now that the first DVD has been written, tenses should be cleaned up. For instance, the part discussing JMS's writing schedule. Shsilver 18:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I had my undone but I find it useful to know when this episode takes place in terms of the whole timeline and I think A Call to Arms is the best thing to put this relative to. Not counting crusade and not counting any novels, it's the last thing that most people remember. Watching the episode, I kept wondering how many years had passed since Earth got infected by the Drakh plague so I think it's notworthy to put the number of years since call to arms. Thoughts? Pocopocopocopoco 22: 54:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
How much did the first DVD, Voices in the Dark, make? The article talks about how it was a success but how much did it make.-- Crab182 12:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The only thing stopping this article from having a higher rating is the absence of a cast list with character names in the body of the article. Wildhartlivie ( talk) 07:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
The main article on WP for what this publication is, is " Direct-to-video". It includes concepts like "direct-to-DVD".
The current article is I feel poorly written, because it attempts to assert a broadcast or cablecast of a thing that was actually published in a specific medium (I just hit myself in the head with it; the DVD exists as a publication, unlike a broadcast or cablecast that happened in the past and may or may not have been published in a fixed medium later).
To that end, I'd like to remove all references to TV from the article. If anybody has any evidence that the work was broadcast or cablecast, please add it, with citation, to the article body (I'm not finding anything at all). I'll start by changing the Infobox to the 2009 version of 'Infobox film'. I tried to find a better Infobox, but there isn't anything pretty that exists that I could find. 'Infobox television' just ain't doin' it here. — Aladdin Sane ( talk) 06:02, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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