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I know it sounds made up, but it is correct. A google search reveals the origin: [1] I added it, I just forgot to sign in at the time. -- StoatBringer 23:41, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
baboons have brightly coloured bums, although they do not have brightly coloured poo/ — Preceding
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The article starts by saying that baboons are, "primates: non-hominoid apes comprising the genus Papio, one of the 23 genuses of Old World monkeys." Looking at other pages describing taxonomy of primates it is clear that baboons are definitely old world monkeys. But the phrase "non-hominoid apes" is very confusing. Apes are members of the superfamily hominoidea, which includes great apes, lesser apes and gibbons. The smallest group that baboons and apes are both members of seems to be catarrhini, which is divided into old world monkeys (which includes baboons) and hominoidea (apes). So, one might expect that "hominoids" is synonymous with "apes". So what is a "non-hominoid ape"? I'm not saying it is wrong; I don't know one way or the other (I'm a physicist, not a biologist...). But if the term "non-hominoid ape" is correct then it needs some explanation since it seems like a contradiction. -- Gleedadswell ( talk) 22:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
OK, you've removed it from the beginning, but it is still there in the second last sentence of the first paragraph, which says, "They are among the largest non-hominoid apes." I really don't have it in for this piece of terminology. But if it is correct then it needs explanation. I can't find a single use of the term "non-hominoid ape" outside of this article. Based on some reading elsewhere I think a statement which is true and less confusing is that baboons are among the largest non-hominoid primates (baboons and mandrills seem to be the largest non-hominoid primates). So I'm going to make an edit request to change the word "ape" in that sentence to "primate". I don't have edit privileges on this page or I would just do it myself. -- Gleedadswell ( talk) 15:25, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
The article states that a Baboon can be up to 90 pounds and that the Mandrill and Drill are bigger. Then the article on the Mandrill says that the Mandrill is up to 60 pounds??? This would make the Baboon bigger. So which is it?
Kkinva68 20:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)kkinva68
There is a lot here which could be added... [http://touregypt.net/featurestories/baboons.htm] And which should prove to be of interest. - Ian Chattan 08:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, I am not as good at it as you are, and my dyslexia is killing me.
Thanks for tidying up the link. Now that I see how easy it is to do I've done the other one above. Ian Chattan 14:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Early in the article the Baboon god is named Baba, while it is later referred to in the Culture section as Babi. As the second one has a link to an article on the topic and the first doesn't, I'm guessing the second is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MoogleDan ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't think "rear-ends" is very scholarly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.176.159.101 ( talk • contribs) .
Aren't Baboons vicious? I've heard stories of them attacking villages and killing people! - NAVIDIA 03:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Attacking people yes, and twice they've attempted to kidnap young children but I'm not sure about killing people. 203.29.160.136 ( talk) 05:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
where is the conservation status for this animal? [[User:Cs1kh]] ( talk) 11:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I added a link to a webcam of the Baboon enclosure at Knowsley Safari Park, Merseyside UK. Is this appropriate? Apologies if not. RoyalBlueStuey ( talk) 17:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Baboons have no concept of private property, except of females. With their vampire-like canines, males rarely fight each other seriously ( when establishing places on the dominance hierarchy ) but males in the wild have been known to puncture and even crush their females skulls for the slightest of infractions.
This is from Carl Sagan's " Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors," which, I think, is a fairly reliable source, although it's made a few surprising blunders in other areas. I'd like to know more about this, and came here hoping to know just what sort of infractions the females die for committing, etc, but sadly there's no mention of this.
It would be great if someone in the know could expand the article a bit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.128.254 ( talk) 06:13, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
A comedy sketch is not a reliable source. This term however, has been copied throughout the net as being truth, even ending up on QI. The source they cite, however, is an anonymous Amazon book review from an author who cites the book as authoritative, and I suspect that the description there derives from the sketch. Unless Smuts, the author of this book, or anyone else, can cite chapter and verse for this collective, it's apocryphal and unusable here. Rodhull andemu 00:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
The above was removed from the article by an anonip, while also citing another analysis [4]. Googling baboons + dogs also returns numerous results on this topic (including many news articles and at least one other video [5]).
There seems to be significant uncertainty about the nature of the interaction or social relationship between dogs and baboons, but what seems to be beyond dispute is that regardless of its precise nature people do find it notable. Cesiumfrog ( talk) 04:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
If there are permanent urban populations as alleged by one IP editor, we would like some reliable sources showing this. While much of the material found on YouTube does not qualify as RS, I did follow the suggestion of that editor, and the material found there does not convince me that baboons can be properly considered urban animals. In any case, the question arises whether particular species should be marked (as applicable) rather than the genus, as the classification, if correct, is likely to not apply to all members. In any case, I don't think it should happen without a reliable source. Samsara 07:46, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
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Why does the phrase "Hardstucked garbage" appear when I play the baboon call audio at the top of the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:777C:C750:3013:D469:D583:DDD4 ( talk) 15:07, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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The second last sentence of the first paragraph says,
"They are among the largest non-hominoid apes."
Since "hominoid" seems to be synonymous with "ape" the term "non-hominoid ape" is very confusing. What seems to be true is that baboons are among the largest non-hominoid primates (mandrills and baboons are the largest primates outside of superfamily Hominoidea). So I propose simply replacing the word "ape" in this sentence with the word "primate". The sentence would then read,
"They are among the largest non-hominoid primates." Gleedadswell ( talk) 15:32, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Nardnearp ( talk) 13:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)Jaguars are New World. The footnote refers to an article about leopard predation.
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Sheckgod ( talk) 15:34, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
baboons can run faster than most humans!
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Many people hate them Bloodcraver ( talk) 03:56, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
stupid monkeys
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I know it sounds made up, but it is correct. A google search reveals the origin: [1] I added it, I just forgot to sign in at the time. -- StoatBringer 23:41, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
baboons have brightly coloured bums, although they do not have brightly coloured poo/ — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
92.28.198.221 (
talk)
19:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
The article starts by saying that baboons are, "primates: non-hominoid apes comprising the genus Papio, one of the 23 genuses of Old World monkeys." Looking at other pages describing taxonomy of primates it is clear that baboons are definitely old world monkeys. But the phrase "non-hominoid apes" is very confusing. Apes are members of the superfamily hominoidea, which includes great apes, lesser apes and gibbons. The smallest group that baboons and apes are both members of seems to be catarrhini, which is divided into old world monkeys (which includes baboons) and hominoidea (apes). So, one might expect that "hominoids" is synonymous with "apes". So what is a "non-hominoid ape"? I'm not saying it is wrong; I don't know one way or the other (I'm a physicist, not a biologist...). But if the term "non-hominoid ape" is correct then it needs some explanation since it seems like a contradiction. -- Gleedadswell ( talk) 22:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
OK, you've removed it from the beginning, but it is still there in the second last sentence of the first paragraph, which says, "They are among the largest non-hominoid apes." I really don't have it in for this piece of terminology. But if it is correct then it needs explanation. I can't find a single use of the term "non-hominoid ape" outside of this article. Based on some reading elsewhere I think a statement which is true and less confusing is that baboons are among the largest non-hominoid primates (baboons and mandrills seem to be the largest non-hominoid primates). So I'm going to make an edit request to change the word "ape" in that sentence to "primate". I don't have edit privileges on this page or I would just do it myself. -- Gleedadswell ( talk) 15:25, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
The article states that a Baboon can be up to 90 pounds and that the Mandrill and Drill are bigger. Then the article on the Mandrill says that the Mandrill is up to 60 pounds??? This would make the Baboon bigger. So which is it?
Kkinva68 20:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)kkinva68
There is a lot here which could be added... [http://touregypt.net/featurestories/baboons.htm] And which should prove to be of interest. - Ian Chattan 08:33, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, I am not as good at it as you are, and my dyslexia is killing me.
Thanks for tidying up the link. Now that I see how easy it is to do I've done the other one above. Ian Chattan 14:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Early in the article the Baboon god is named Baba, while it is later referred to in the Culture section as Babi. As the second one has a link to an article on the topic and the first doesn't, I'm guessing the second is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MoogleDan ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't think "rear-ends" is very scholarly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.176.159.101 ( talk • contribs) .
Aren't Baboons vicious? I've heard stories of them attacking villages and killing people! - NAVIDIA 03:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Attacking people yes, and twice they've attempted to kidnap young children but I'm not sure about killing people. 203.29.160.136 ( talk) 05:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
where is the conservation status for this animal? [[User:Cs1kh]] ( talk) 11:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I added a link to a webcam of the Baboon enclosure at Knowsley Safari Park, Merseyside UK. Is this appropriate? Apologies if not. RoyalBlueStuey ( talk) 17:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Baboons have no concept of private property, except of females. With their vampire-like canines, males rarely fight each other seriously ( when establishing places on the dominance hierarchy ) but males in the wild have been known to puncture and even crush their females skulls for the slightest of infractions.
This is from Carl Sagan's " Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors," which, I think, is a fairly reliable source, although it's made a few surprising blunders in other areas. I'd like to know more about this, and came here hoping to know just what sort of infractions the females die for committing, etc, but sadly there's no mention of this.
It would be great if someone in the know could expand the article a bit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.128.254 ( talk) 06:13, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
A comedy sketch is not a reliable source. This term however, has been copied throughout the net as being truth, even ending up on QI. The source they cite, however, is an anonymous Amazon book review from an author who cites the book as authoritative, and I suspect that the description there derives from the sketch. Unless Smuts, the author of this book, or anyone else, can cite chapter and verse for this collective, it's apocryphal and unusable here. Rodhull andemu 00:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
The above was removed from the article by an anonip, while also citing another analysis [4]. Googling baboons + dogs also returns numerous results on this topic (including many news articles and at least one other video [5]).
There seems to be significant uncertainty about the nature of the interaction or social relationship between dogs and baboons, but what seems to be beyond dispute is that regardless of its precise nature people do find it notable. Cesiumfrog ( talk) 04:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
If there are permanent urban populations as alleged by one IP editor, we would like some reliable sources showing this. While much of the material found on YouTube does not qualify as RS, I did follow the suggestion of that editor, and the material found there does not convince me that baboons can be properly considered urban animals. In any case, the question arises whether particular species should be marked (as applicable) rather than the genus, as the classification, if correct, is likely to not apply to all members. In any case, I don't think it should happen without a reliable source. Samsara 07:46, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
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Why does the phrase "Hardstucked garbage" appear when I play the baboon call audio at the top of the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:777C:C750:3013:D469:D583:DDD4 ( talk) 15:07, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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The second last sentence of the first paragraph says,
"They are among the largest non-hominoid apes."
Since "hominoid" seems to be synonymous with "ape" the term "non-hominoid ape" is very confusing. What seems to be true is that baboons are among the largest non-hominoid primates (mandrills and baboons are the largest primates outside of superfamily Hominoidea). So I propose simply replacing the word "ape" in this sentence with the word "primate". The sentence would then read,
"They are among the largest non-hominoid primates." Gleedadswell ( talk) 15:32, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Nardnearp ( talk) 13:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)Jaguars are New World. The footnote refers to an article about leopard predation.
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baboons can run faster than most humans!
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Many people hate them Bloodcraver ( talk) 03:56, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
stupid monkeys