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Usually this means Russians in the context of modern Ukrainian history, but given the locations mentioned could be Ukrainian Donetsk fighters, Russian paratroopers, or conceivably something else.
I am doing a barely edited translation first. This may be required by the translate template, unsure, but in any event this is how I always do these regimental history translations. Mysteries and references come after that Elinruby ( talk) 05:42, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
This is an article on the same main subject as Azov Battalion, and taken with this user's other ambitions it's quite clear this intends to be a POV fork of that article with most of the elements relating to its status as an extremist organization relegated to the end of the article. Not to mention an article of this low quality should not be in mainspace right now, with the horrifying POV issues, general formatting and uncleaned refs. Sandbox and draft exist for a reason. EuanHolewicz432 ( talk) 12:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
That West Point article isn’t a reliable source in this context. There may be some in that article, mind you, but that one isn’t. You can’t support a sentence that says the sky is blue with a reference that says that Other things exist and has no expertise is skies. Honest. I wouldn’t mind you not knowing that — it doesn’t come up much — if you weren’t so rude to new editors trying to explain things to you. Some of them are right. Meanwhile, your intention seems to be to waste my time so I would ask you to take your attitude elsewhere please. I have stuff to do, and I have processed that you aren’t educable in this context so I am sure there is a Facebook page somewhere where you can get a rise out of someone. If you have no suggestions to make about this article, begone. Elinruby ( talk) 07:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/azov-battalion#text_block_33831 Elinruby ( talk) 22:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
From lede of his wikibio: writes about the Ukrainian far right and it’s ties to Russia (in neo-Nazi section) Elinruby ( talk) 02:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Doubt this one is reliable except for search (self-publushed, non-notable source) terms, but as it happens we need some of those https://intermarium.org.ua/en/the-azov-movement-held-the-inaugural-conference-of-the-intermarium-support-group-2/ Elinruby ( talk) 15:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
I posted the following there:
I have done a machine translation of this article (not ideal I realize) and lightly edited it to fix the machine translation errors. Some other editors are trying to delete it because another article titled “Azov Battalion” exists that portrays the group as a NeoNazi root of all evil. I think that the military unit that is currently fighting so valiantly against an undisputed Russian aggressor deserves an article that discusses it as a military unit. Could some editors that speak English please come talk to some of the underinformed editors who are discussing it at the English language wkipedia? I realize that many of the editors here may currently be dealing with an actual threat to world freedom, but if anyone is currently safe and can comment if would help get some truth out. 162.216.189.67 ( talk) 15:14, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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Usually this means Russians in the context of modern Ukrainian history, but given the locations mentioned could be Ukrainian Donetsk fighters, Russian paratroopers, or conceivably something else.
I am doing a barely edited translation first. This may be required by the translate template, unsure, but in any event this is how I always do these regimental history translations. Mysteries and references come after that Elinruby ( talk) 05:42, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
This is an article on the same main subject as Azov Battalion, and taken with this user's other ambitions it's quite clear this intends to be a POV fork of that article with most of the elements relating to its status as an extremist organization relegated to the end of the article. Not to mention an article of this low quality should not be in mainspace right now, with the horrifying POV issues, general formatting and uncleaned refs. Sandbox and draft exist for a reason. EuanHolewicz432 ( talk) 12:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
That West Point article isn’t a reliable source in this context. There may be some in that article, mind you, but that one isn’t. You can’t support a sentence that says the sky is blue with a reference that says that Other things exist and has no expertise is skies. Honest. I wouldn’t mind you not knowing that — it doesn’t come up much — if you weren’t so rude to new editors trying to explain things to you. Some of them are right. Meanwhile, your intention seems to be to waste my time so I would ask you to take your attitude elsewhere please. I have stuff to do, and I have processed that you aren’t educable in this context so I am sure there is a Facebook page somewhere where you can get a rise out of someone. If you have no suggestions to make about this article, begone. Elinruby ( talk) 07:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/azov-battalion#text_block_33831 Elinruby ( talk) 22:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
From lede of his wikibio: writes about the Ukrainian far right and it’s ties to Russia (in neo-Nazi section) Elinruby ( talk) 02:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Doubt this one is reliable except for search (self-publushed, non-notable source) terms, but as it happens we need some of those https://intermarium.org.ua/en/the-azov-movement-held-the-inaugural-conference-of-the-intermarium-support-group-2/ Elinruby ( talk) 15:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
I posted the following there:
I have done a machine translation of this article (not ideal I realize) and lightly edited it to fix the machine translation errors. Some other editors are trying to delete it because another article titled “Azov Battalion” exists that portrays the group as a NeoNazi root of all evil. I think that the military unit that is currently fighting so valiantly against an undisputed Russian aggressor deserves an article that discusses it as a military unit. Could some editors that speak English please come talk to some of the underinformed editors who are discussing it at the English language wkipedia? I realize that many of the editors here may currently be dealing with an actual threat to world freedom, but if anyone is currently safe and can comment if would help get some truth out. 162.216.189.67 ( talk) 15:14, 24 March 2022 (UTC)