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What do the colors mean?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.158.65.199 ( talk • contribs) 02:44, 11 Feb 2003 (UTC).
The story with the flag color ıs a state myth or more an early political propaganda ( relating to Leopold V ) In reality ın the tıme same tıme a Austrıan nobility famely of Lower Austrıa died out and the posessıons where falling back to the Babenbergs as dukes of Austria by feudal law.This famely close to Zwettel had a red whıte and red shield. For a reason we dont know probably because ıt was simple the dukes overtook this shield. The castles witch name i have forgotten is still existing and you can see their the orignal red white and red shield painted as wall decoration.
May be that Leopold took this red whıte and red flag to invent this politıcal propaganda wich i have heard is older than this story. J. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.168.92 ( talk • contribs) 10:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
What does the Flag of Austria mean? What does it represent? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.83.124.226 ( talk • contribs) 09:50, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Adrian, I find the image of the Austrian town Kaprun really nice, but why did you put it on the "Austria" page? I don't see any relation to the article. Fantasy 08:11 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does it look like the two words of "Republik Österreich" have different fonts? RickK 06:00, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Why the heck isn't Hitler listed under 'Well-known Austrians'? I'm pretty sure he's well known. mSprout 14:38, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Sorry, but I didn't get a chance to say why I reverted (thanks, popups! I think). While I agree that it's important to mention Adolf Hitler reigns from Austria, the wording was horrible (obviously meant in a sarcastic manner) and doesn't really belong under Culture.
Also, he's in the List of Austrians. Maybe that's enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BillG ( talk • contribs) 02:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Apparently Hitler wasn't actually born in Austria as i thought! There's not a single mention of him in the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.1.15 ( talk • contribs) 03:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
The thing you don't understand is that A. Hitler WAS Austrian until the age of 25, but as he entered in the German Army in 1914, he lost his Austrian Nationality. Hitler never acquired the German Nationality, but still, he was born in Austria, and remains beside Arnold Schwarzenegger one of the most famous Austrians. —Preceding
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Actually he did aquire German (Brunswick) citizenship in 1932. He lost his Austrian citizenship in 1925 willingly not because his was in the German imperial army.-- MacX85 ( talk) 20:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it really necessary to state in the table, that prior to 1999 the Schilling was Austria's currency? IMPOV the table ought to give nothing more than a concise overview. We might want to put this information somewhere in the main body of the article. Gugganij 07:47, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
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my daughter is doing a project on Austria and we need to find the national animal,sport,flower,etc.Any help would be appreciated —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiredwizard ( talk • contribs) 20:19, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
What about Lipizzan? – Hokanomono 12:52, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Somebody has repeatedly changed the description of the largest ethnic group in Austria to simply "Austrians". This use of the word is completely misleading and incorrect, a simple look at other references on Austria will confirm this. There is simply no such thing as an "Austrian" ethnicity alone. Before the end of the second world war most Austrians clearly identified as ethnic Germans. Although it is clearly insensitive to label modern Austrians as ethnic Germans, it still does not make any sense to create an Austrian ethnic label on Wikipedia when it exist virtually nowhere else.
The original phrase that was used in this article was "German-Austrians". I personally find this term a bit too complicated and would recommend the use of a more sensitive label. My last suggestion and edit for this subject was the term "Germanic-Austrians". Another posibility would be "Austrians of Germanic descent".
But the fact remains Austrian has not ever been commonly used as and still is not (even six decades after the Second World War) an ethnic label.
Here is how other references handle the issue...
CIA World Factbook: Austria - Ethnic groups: German 88.5%, ....
Lonely Planet: People: 97% Germanic origin, 2% Slovene & .....
Encyclopedia Britannica: population, ethnically Germanic......
I suggest the use of the term "Germanic-Austrians", which is in line with many other references and avoids the insesitive labeling of Austrians as "ethnic-Germans".
I would also suggest that the person who keeps changing the term to simply "Austrians", join the discussion and give their reasons.
FrederikM -- 80.128.37.75 21:51, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I added a new section, an introductory text, to the demographics sections, for the sake of clarity. I as someone who is half Austrian and has lived in English-speaking countries for much of my life, am aware of how confusing the issue of Austrian nationality is to many people outside of the country, i.e are they Germans or not?, How was Hitler German and Austrian?, etc. Therefore I think it is important to have the text I placed the demographics section that quickly explains the historical background briefly and the current situation. If anyopne has any objection please let me know. I do however feel that this will make the article clearer and is a neccesary piece of information in a reference text about Austria and I beleive it belongs at the beginning of the demographics section and NOT in history.
FrederikM -- 80.128.37.75 21:51, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Trweiss I agree with you on the subject of being "politically correct" to some extent but I do beleive it is totally neccesary for the simple reason that this is an open encyclopedia. The original word used in the article (and I was one of the first to expand the demographics section here) was "German-Austrian" and that was in my opinion a perfectly acceptable term but it ended up getting repeatedly deleted, my guess is mostly by Austrian visitors. The use of the term "German" alone is really not an option for the simple reason that this page will be visited by many people with little or no knowledge of Austrian and German history, so the term would lead to a considerable of confussion even if it is placed in quotation marks and accompanied by an explanation. The term "German" should also not be used to avoid offending a good amount of the Austrian visitors to this site. As someone with an Austrian passport, I know how sensitive the subject is to some Austrians.
Personally I think the term "Germanic-Austrians" is an acceptable comprimise that is both in line with other English-language references and avoids the incorrect use of the word "Austrian" as an ethnic lable.
FrederikM-- 80.128.52.254 22:56, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to delete this:
The issue of Austrian nationality and ethnicity was throughout recent centuries and remains to this day a sensitive issue and a topic of dispute. Before the end of the Second World War, most of Austria's population were clearly self-identified ethnic-Germans, who considered themselves part of a larger German Volk (ethnic nation), together with the other German-speaking-populations of Europe. A strong distinct Austrian national identity has emerged since the mid-twentieth century and most Austrians now no longer identify themselves as "Germans". In modern Austria only a small minority of the population, mostly but not entirely people with conservative or far right political views, advocate a pan-German ethnic identity for German-speaking Austrians.
I don't think it is necessary to make an attempt at discribing Austrian national identity problems in this article at all, and would like to delete the above quoted text.-- Fenice 18:16, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
It makes no sence to discuss if Austrians are ethnic Germans or not... About 90% of all Austrians identify themselfs as ethnic Bavarians or Alemanics. I`m allowed to say that because I´m Austrian. Bavarians from Bavaria identify themselfs also as ethnic Bavarians and do not as Germans. It never existed an pan-german-nationality-feeling bevore Adolf Hitler.
It is correct that Austrians of german mother tongue identify themselfs as "Germans" before the second world war. But you have to make a big difference: When a Austrian of german mother tonge say: "I'm German" he always means "I'm german speaking" - also before the second world war.
You also have to make a difference between northern germans and southern germans - they are culturally totaly different!
A "German" is: only an inhabitant of de Federal Republic of Germany,
or: summary (not culturally, ant ethnical - but in the sence of the language) of volkgroups.—Preceding
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Turks are not an "national Austrian minority group"! Austrians of slovene- or croatian tongue also do not identify themselfs as "Slovenes" or "Croatians"! They are also "Austrians".
People from different english-speaking-countries also do not identify themselfs as "English" people. - You have to accept that a majority of Austrians don´t want to be identify as "Germans", because we are what we are AUSTROBAVARIANS.
If you would live in the German-speaking-countries, you would see and accept, that no lager-german-ethnic exist (in the head of the most) and never existed and in future not will exist.
What you mean is: a summary of Volkgroups who have quite the same language
If you have any knowledge about the german language you would see, that only some dialects in the north of Germany - known as "Highgerman" - is the Language wich is standard. In Austria we speak "bavarian" very hard to understand for north-, west-, and east-germans, and write Standardgerman. For example Dutch is much more easyer understandable for northgermans (when they speak dialect) than bavarian! And bavarian is so called an "german dialect" - you have to immagin. When you call me a "German", you also have to call a Dutch as "ethnic german"!
I have seen on your personal page that you are from the USA, would you identify yourself as "ethnic English"?
At the end of the first world war, Austria planed to get a part of Germany, but the plan was to be a very autonom state in a greater Germany. The austrian goverment don't wanted to be under porussian regiment even not the volk. The most of the people in Bavaria and Austria always had an bavarian identity. Bavaria today also is so called a "Freestate" it is an autonom State in the federal republic of Germany, as three other States. You can see, even in Germany most of the Bavarians, and others don't feel "German". In Bavaria about 60% identify themselfs as Bavarians at first... —Preceding
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The fakt is: that no greater-german-ethnicity exist. It is a summary of ethnicities witch have quite the same language. An "lager bavarian ethnicity" exist!
there are following "german-speaking" ethnicities:
1. Bavarians - living in southern Bavaria and Austria
2. Alemanics - living in Switzerland, Baden-Würtemberg and Elsass (France)
3. Franconians - living in Bavaria, Baden-Würtemberg, Hessen
4. Porussians - living in the rest of Germany
5. lower Saxons - living in the north
those are own ethnicities, in the sence of the language so called "Germans". —Preceding
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I actually didn't plan to add to this discussion. However, I feel it's necessary as the artice in the current form is incorrect. I think the problem starts with the vague definition: "An
ethnic group can be determined on the basis of a complex set of characteristics, including race, nationality, religion, ancestry, and language."
The Austrian census does not collect data in the form it's argued about above. The only ethnic data gathered is citizenship, country of birth and religion.
[1] The 91.1 % stated in the article refer to Austrian citizenship and therefore the term Austrian seems most appropriate.--
Austronaut
01:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Patrick: Please consider the motto of the former Emperor of Austria: AEIOU ! (Austria Est Imperare Orbi Universo / Alles Erdreich Ist Osterreich Untertan) We rule the world, and no one else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.114.183.219 ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
It seems like the CIA Factbookt has changed it`s mind: Ethnic groups:
Definition Field Listing
Austrians 91.1%, former Yugoslavs 4% (includes Croatians, Slovenes, Serbs, and Bosniaks), Turks 1.6%, German 0.9%, other or unspecified 2.4% (2001 census) (
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/au.html#People) --
193.170.52.132
22:04, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I would like to add that this discussion is negelecting the fact that 95% of the viennese population is at least partly of eastern European origin. The viennese population is not ethnic german whatsoever! 212.183.41.16 12:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Ask a Native Austrian, sounds curious but there are some of us living in Austria from the beginning till now and hopefully happily ever after.
In Austria there are much ethnicities, but for better understanding to say Austrian doesn´t necessarily mean Ethnic-Austrian it is more used in a sense like US-American or US-Citizen the Term of Austria is widely spread and is used for current inhabitants of the Republic of Austria, even oficially. Looking back at World War II history no Austrian Citizen favours to be called an Ethnic German or a Bavarian. You can believe me Austrians existing, and as true as I am a Native, to say there are no Austrians is as you would say Native Americans do not exist, we are out there.
Yours Xandl Hofer November 6th 2008 19:19 —Preceding
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Hi,
Last night I discovered that my submission on this page was identified as spam
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Austrosearch Bilingual Austrian Search engine and Directory (German, English)
I sent an inquiry with the moderator that removed it but I feel that maybe I posted the link without first inquiring the moderators regarding it's inclusion as an external link on this page. I have run Austrosearch for the last 7 years at a loss out of my own pocket, thus I feel calling my post spam to be unfair as it is more of my self appointed charity work for a country with one of the world's highest living standards. The other websites already listed as external links are no more nor less relevant to Austria than Austrosearch. Other websites have been very kind to my work promoting Austria such as Dmoz was below.
Austrosearch is listed in Dmoz under the following categories.
I submit that I may have my own political views on Austria and those are kept in the features section. I do not filter submissions based on political affiliations, only on relevance that the websites included in the directory have some direct basis relating to Austria. Austrosearch crawls, indexes, and caches for the public's benefit hundreds of News articles daily in German and in English.
Kindest Regards, Jason —Preceding unsigned comment added by Austrosearch ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I am not certain for how long this will remain on as a top result, but I did a check for websites that link to
Austria - Wikipedia and
my website was the first search result on msn
1-10 of 1,423 containing link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria -site:wikipedia.org.
Today I discovered the
#wikipedia irc channel and found folks to be very informative and more than willing to let me know what got my site initially removed. I acknowledge now after those discussions that it would not be appropriate if I were to submit the link to the
Austria - Wikipedia page. Nevertheless it is my hope that someone find it of merit to be added as
Austrosearch works hard at it's mission as a non partisan source and record of information and fact directly pertaining to Austria. Regards,
Austrosearch 23:07, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
To meet increased competition from both EU and Central European countries, Austria will need to emphasize knowledge-based sectors of the economy, continue to deregulate the service sector, and lower its tax burden.
This seems rather POV speculation. Who added this? Is it from the CIA fact book? If so, perhaps it should be attributed. Mr. Jones 10:47, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I reverted 213.132.117.4's vandalism. People really need to grow up. =\ -- Kross 09:36, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
I've restructured and rewriten some parts of the article. I stop now, however I want to point out that the article is in desperate need of
Themanwithoutapast 05:05, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
I have replaced a few substituted instances of the template {{ Main}} by {{ seesubarticle}}. This because the accompanying template {{ seemain}} was hopelessly confusing with Main. I have placed the accompanying template {{ subarticleof}} on the according subarticles. For feedback and suggestions please visit Template talk:seesubarticle and Template talk:subarticleof. Thanks -- MarSch 11:34, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
IMHO (as an Austrian very much interested in politics), it is a very minor fact that some ÖVP politicians have occasionally proposed joining NATO. If we mention this in the main article, we should also mention in the Iceland article that some politicians have proposed to join the EU. The proposal to join NATO was of importance during the Cold War, but after the fall of the Soviet Union, the idea of joining NATO is not even remotely considered by ÖVP politicians any more (openly, at least), because public opinion is somewhere above two thirds against that proposal. While browsing through pages on Austria, I just felt that this factoid was not really notable. ::shrugs:: Would be interested as to why you think this is notable. Thanks in advance! ナイトスタリオン… ㇳ–ㇰ 23:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Mh, well, sometimes you learn something new about your country... it seems that Schüssel did indeed say something along the lines of "should consider all options, including NATO membership" in November 2001. Still, I do not consider this possibility noteworthy enough to mention it in the main article, which should give a short overview of Austrian politics; NATO membership is definitely not an important topic in Austrian politics at the moment. ;) ナイトスタリオン… ㇳ–ㇰ 23:26, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
I think the federal cpaital is not mentioned properly in this article. It should be obvious from the first paragraph that Austria Vienna is the capital —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.16.208.218 ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
The article on Franz Kafka has been listed to be improved on Wikipedia: This week's improvement drive. Add your vote there if you want to support the article.-- Fenice 06:18, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I have removed the cleanup tag from this article. It was put there by an editor who apparently hasn't seen the kind of articles that do need the tag; this article is neither ungrammatical nor poorly formatted nor confused. And, for what it's worth, there is no explanation on this talk page what should be cleaned up, either. Maybe {{Fact|date=March 2008}} (Citation needed) or {{Dubious|date=March 2008}} (( disputed )
Dubious) would have fit the bill. Rl 06:52, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
It is not entirely clear what Catholicism means in the section on religion. For instance, "the absolute monarchy of Habsburg imposed a strict regime to maintain Catholicism's power and influence among Austrians". I suppose that means "Roman Catholic Church", not "orthodox Christian church" or both. Same thing for "Catholic leaders such as Theodor Innitzer and Ignaz Seipel". Rl 18:07, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Something doesn't seem completely unbiased in the part where the article points out the reasons on catholicism's diminishing numbers. To me it sounds like too many personal opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcuervo ( talk • contribs) 03:14, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
At the pink map where the federal states of austria are shown, the boarder of federal state Salzburg (Number 5) is wrong:
[2]
The right boarders are shown at the german Wikipedia site:
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[4] —Preceding
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"To meet increased competition from both EU and Central European countries, Austria will need to emphasize knowledge-based sectors of the economy, continue to deregulate the service sector, and lower its tax burden."
Was this pulled out of an IMF report? Doesn't seem appropriate to have judgements about what Austria needs to do in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winmax ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
This new notice board might be of interest to editors here. You can help with our current projects or ask for help with yours, and ask any related question on our talk page. Hope to see you there, Kusma (討論) 15:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
The name of Austria is partially explained on the main page. However, it only explains the German word/name Osterreich; and does not explain where the English word Austria comes from.
Do I take it that the English word is just a corruption of the German word? We can't say Osterreich properly so it came out as Austria? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Judge ( talk • contribs) 09:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
When was the name "Austria" starting to get used in Latin? It is clearly not a calque of ostarrichi, and doesn't seem to be a direct borrowing of the High German word, could it have come from another Germanic dialect? For instance Old Norse "austr" (east) looks extremely similar. 惑乱 分からん 14:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Marc Bloch's Feudal Society has a more accurate account of how the Osterreich came to be the name of the german boundary in the alps and with eastern Europe. In the eleventh century (or tenth, can't really remember) Otto the Great sent two large garrisons to the southeastern borders of the empire to protect against Magyar assaults. There garrisons were called the "Eastern Command" or, for a simpler translation of the primitive german "ostaricki," the "East-Rule." The sense being conveyed would thus be "Eastern Regime," but only "command" really keeps the military reality of its origins in sight.
Given the modern term "Reich" and its uses, Austria is often mistaken by English scholars as being derived from "Eastern Empire;" though it goes much further than the primitive roots allow, it's still much more accurate than "Eastern Realm." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.63.18 ( talk • contribs) 18:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
There is no article with Ottoman Empire. Ottoman Empire( Turks) ruled this country for 400 years. Nobody know this? Turks were defeated in Vienna. If they not, the Europe would be in danger, may be todays Europe would be never exist. Don't forget the History. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.240.33.154 ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Why exactly was AUT adopted as the 3-letter code? (I know AUS is Australia, and I think that AUT stands for Autriche, which is french for Austria, but I'm not sure) ( 131.130.121.106 19:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC))
Why does it say {{{native_name}}}? It should say Republik Österreich.-- Sonjaaa 16:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed that the opening parentheses in the first paragraph is never properly closed. Someone should probably fix that. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightfight ( talk • contribs) 17:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
A still nowadays very important and very problematic point was the loss of the German speaking South-Tyrol to Italy after WW I.
Thats not true and POV. Since 1972, when Austria and Italy finaly agreed about the autonomy statute of south tyrol only very few people got a problem with it and for sure neither the official Austria nor Italy. I will delte it.--
85.124.233.216
03:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello folks! We should add a short notice that Austria is a neutral country and therefore not member of any international military organization ( NATO) execpt EURFOR (=EU-Force).
Please do add it. This is very important. Your friendly Reichsgauleiter Hansen 01:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Fucking nazi-scumbag! How can you call yourself "reichsgauleiter"?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.104.25.187 ( talk) 2009-02
Does anyone think that there is far too much space devoted to this? I think it would be more appropriate if all the information concerning the rights of slovenes were moved to Demographics of Austria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motekker ( talk • contribs) 04:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
i would appreciate if you could tell me where you found the info about belief in God in Europe. thank you -- alex medical services 00:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
-- Ifeldman84 19:40, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The infobox shows several official languages, but English isn't there. I've heard from dozens, maybe a hundred Austrians, they have to study at least four years of English in school. Traveling in remote parts of Austria is considerably easier than Germany for me since most Austrians' English is better than my German. Should English be listed as officially required? Or is that not done anymore? 71.193.192.51 21:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
The map for this country has recently been changed to a format which is not standard for Wikipedia. Each and every other country identifies that country alone on a contintental or global map; none of them highlight other members of relevant regional blocs or other states which which that country has political or constitutional links. The EU is no different in this respect unless and until it becomes a formal state and replaces all other states which are presently members; the progress and constitutional status of the EU can be properly debated and identified on the page for that organisation; to include other members of the EU on the infobox map for this country is both non-standard and potentially POV.
Please support me in maitaining Austria's proper map (in Wikipedia standard) until we here have debated and agreed this issue? Who is for changing the map and who against? The onus is on those who would seek to digress from Wiki standard to show why a non-standard and potentially POV map should be used. Austria deserves no less! JamesAVD 15:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The users above are misrepresnting my actions. Certain non-standard items have been included in the infoboxes of the pages of some European states. I have removed the undiscussed and unsupported changes and started a discussion here on the best way forward. I have in no way 'removed references to the EU'! The EU is an important part of the activities of the governmenance of many European states, to the benefit of all. That does not mean that an encyclopedia should go around presenting potentially POV information of the constitutional status of the EU in the infoboxes of states which are supposed to be standardised across Wikipedia. I'm interested in what users here feel? JamesAVD 15:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
No, Kusma, you had been suggesting way back that the (very thin) discussion on that page, out of the sight of the many contributors to the country pages involved, was sufficient to override the Wiki standard which should be changed by broad discussion. You were naming this page long before the point where I made this problem known to the contributors of all of the relevant pages. It would be more efficient if all contibuted to a discussion on that page but in all likelihood individuals will want to contribute on the talk page of the relevant country. They should feel free to do so. Please also, if you have a strong opinion, join in this debate. JamesAVD 16:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I want to point out a factual error on the page, at the bottom, there's this box with neighbors organized by cardinal directions. Slovenia and Slovakia are swapped on it. If I knew how to edit it, I would have :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.16.248 ( talk • contribs) 09:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
EDIT: Nevermind, figured it out :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.16.248 ( talk • contribs) 09:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
There now is a proposed WikiProject for Austria at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Austria. Any editors interested should add their names there and we will see if there is enough interest to began the project in earnest. Badbilltucker 21:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, the following scentence is wrong.. "To the latter group the term "Windische" (originally the German word for Slovenians) "... The word "windische" is not used for slovenians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.178.227.95 ( talk • contribs) 21:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Windische refers to a somewhat archaic term for Austrians of Slovenian ethnicity. Now I believe they are simply referred to in the media and by officialdom as slovenians or a Slovenian minority. This term dates back to the days of the Empire... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.82.147.122 ( talk) 12:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Why is Austria's name in Hungarian and Czech given? Surely they arent national languages??-- WoodElf 07:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I will come back and rewrite and expand more of the article. Reference examples are articles on Sweden or GErmany. Themanwithoutapast 11:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The Anthem is not called "Land der Berge, Land am Strome", this is just the first line.
In Books, it is called "Österreichische Bundeshymne".
The Anthem is based on
KV 425 by
Mozart with words by Paula Preradovic. --
Helmut Gründlinger
20:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I have just seen that somebody has written that the anthem is "Land der Keller" - this cant possibly be right. I think that the same person has written that Joaeph Fritzel is the president - Seems like somebody has been havin fun... —Preceding
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Austria's full name is Bundesrepublik Österreich (Federal Republic of Austria), not just Republik Österreich (Republic of Austria). For reference one need only take a glimpse at an Austrian passport. Danke! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.153.8.3 ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
In the "Babenberg" article of Wikipedia, it says "Austria, the capital of which had been transferred to Vienna in 1156, was elevated into a duchy in the Privilegium Minus." Fruthermore, the original fief, as well as the first Margravate, did not extend to Vienna (rather 60 miles only from the Bavarian border). Was it that the Austrian Margravate simply did not have a Capital? or was it Passau, because Vienna had to wait until 1469 before becoming a separate diocese? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SayKay ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I cant find anything about crime in this. the country has one of the lowest crime rates in the world and murder rates. it averges 100 murders a year which is very low considering baltimores averge murder rate is 312 a years —Preceding unsigned comment added by BonesBrigade ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Who was the only ruler of the Holy Roman Empire who was not a Habsburg? This article mentions that but does not reference him or her (probably a him :)).
BaileytheDog 19:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
When reading this article the other day, it came to my attention that Austria had been defined as a 'mythical' country. I don't know what joker wrote that! I proceeded to delete the offending word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.108.56 ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
In 1804 the Austrian Empire was founded by Franz II./I., while the Deutscher Bund (1815-1866) was just a lose confederation of germanspeaking countries. Regardless of this, some (german) users would like to call the AUSTRIAN emporers of that time to be "German Monarchs". See the discussion here:
-- Rfortner 01:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The third paragraph concerning the 19th century period of Austria is in need of some revision. There are some redundant statements, broken sentences and an explanation of events reminiscent of a junior high history essay. While the rest of the article is easily read, the grammar and sentence structure of that particular paragraph is difficult to digest. I would edit it myself, had I understood what I read in that paragraph. Perhaps someone who is knowledgable of that era could sort and reorganize that jumble of words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canucker25 ( talk • contribs) 19:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The numbers listed are wrong, I tried to find current numbers, but the best I could find were from 2001
"The share of renewable energy sources in the total energy system has been rising since the mid 70ies and amounted to 22.65 percent of total energy supply in 2001." from
http://www.energyagency.at/projekte/ren-in-a01.htm
The main page is
http://www.energyagency.at/projekte/ren-in-a.htm
Can anyone find more recent numbers to put in? —Preceding
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Someone put the word Vespene in front of gas, as an obvious meme. I've since edited it out. ~Railen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.93.80 ( talk • contribs) 23:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be no history in Austria during WW-II. Was there a war in this country? Was it bombed? Were people killed? Did the Soviet Army invade it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hudicourt ( talk • contribs) 22:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Doing some research, it seems to me that the 'Eierschwammerl' mentioned in the section about Austrian cuisine is simply good ol' chanterelle mushrooms. Could this be verified/edited? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.252.87 ( talk • contribs) 05:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The infobox says:
2006 estimate 8,199,783 (92nd)
The Demographics section says:
Austria's population estimate in October 2006 was 8,292,322.
Then, the List of countries by population says:
Austria 8,361,000 UN estimate
Furthermore, the Austria article ranks Austria as 92nd by population, the list of countries ranks it 93rd. This is a bit of a mess, to say the least.
What's the source, and what does the source say? Steevm 13:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
An anonymus IP ( 87.112.10.251) tries since some days to state absolutely wrong information about Karl Renner and the founding of the II. Republic of Austria:
1) First Mr. Anonymus tried to state, that Karl Renner started to set up a new government from western Austria, which was quite impossible as Renner survived the NS-Regime in Gloggnitz near to the Semmering and then he moved back to Vienna.
2) Also Mr. Anonymus tries to revert Austrian history by saying that Renner was out of the reach of the red army. Quite the contrary is true: It was the Red Army who SEARCHED for him in Gloggnitz and immediatly brought him to Vienna, as - furtunately for Austria - Stalin was personaly impressed by Renner whom he allready knew as one of the founder of the I. Republic of Austria in 1918/1919 (even when Stalin knew the border between Socialdemocrats like Renner and Communists, and - funny enough - the Austrian Communist Party KPÖ was AGAINST the reactivation of Renner). But allready in 1943 after the Moscow Declaration it was obvious, that the Soviets - like the other allies - had special plans for Austria and therefore kindly ignored most of the responsibility of Austrians between 1938 and 1945, especially with a quite friendly interpretation of the occurences during the Anschluss in 1938.
3) So let us come to the facts (and I am quite far away from supporting Communists or Soviet point of views, but I am quite serious about Austrian history and one has to be fair):
These are the facts about April 1945 in Austra. So, Mr. Anonymus, can you see that Renner was not in "Western Austria ... acting beyond the reach of the Red Army"? Can you therefore see, that your edits and reverts about this part of Austrian history where (and still are) simply wrong? -- Rfortner 12:56, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The page gives: "Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube." - "Others may fight wars,but you - lucky Austria - marry!" as the country's motto.
I don't think this is correct. It is more of a saw or saying than a motto. A motto is a saying that expresses the guiding principles of something or someone. Austria does not nowadays try to live by the motto of 'Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube'. It is just an expression that came up at a time in history when Austria became powerful through successful marriage politics and hence didn't need to fight wars to enhance its political power, and which is still very familiar.
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I think only motto Austria ever had was: AEIOU, standig for: Austria est imperare orbi universo, which means: Austria is to rule over the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.119.171.91 ( talk) 15:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I see that Special:Contributions/69.129.41.90 has deleted this entire section of this article. I'm not well versed enough in Austrian history to know if this edit was a net positive to this page or a net negative. Your thoughts? Merenta 16:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Today, I reverted to Republic of Austria / Republik Österreich, removing
I can only assume that these are the names in Slovenian, Croatian and Hungarian, respectively. And while it is true that those minority groups have some rights as to the usage of their language, it does not make much sense to use them in an English article. The official name of the republic remains "Republik Österreich", minority right notwithstanding. Greil 07:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
The official name is not the Bundesrepublik Oesterreich! It is Republik Oesterreich. Changed back to correct form. That is the name used for Germany. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.82.3.129 ( talk) 01:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I am open to arguments, but I would timidly suggest to protect this article against changes by anonymous users. I've seen a lot of vandalism lately. None of which, luckily, remained uncorrected for a few hours, but still. Opinions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.40.161.64 ( talk) 06:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Talk about irony... 62.40.161.64 = Greil, but of course I am on a different computer now, and need my password mailed to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.40.161.64 ( talk) 07:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Who wrote this rubbish? The English is truly appalling and needs urgent attention which I am giving it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T A Francis ( talk • contribs) 20:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
"The German-Hungarian rule of this diverse empire, which included, (long list of groups)" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robcat2075 ( talk • contribs) 03:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I am going to resume with the inclusion of Kosovo in the maps of the countries that have formally accepted/recognised their independence. Bardhylius ( talk) 17:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Motto:
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Latin) "No one provokes me with impunity" "Cha togar m' fhearg gun dìoladh" ( Scottish Gaelic) '"Wha daur meddle wi me?"' ( Scots)1 | |
Anthem: ( Multiple unofficial anthems) | |
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Capital |
Edinburgh 55°57′N 3°12′W / 55.950°N 3.200°W |
Largest city | Glasgow |
Official languages | English |
Recognised regional languages | Gaelic, Scots1 |
Demonym(s) | Scot, Scots and Scottish² |
Government | Constitutional monarchy |
ISO 3166 code | GB-SCT |
Hello Austria!!! I have something that may interest contributers for this page. In a nut shell, it allows the option to display two maps in your info box, one could be a close up of Austria, and another would be Austria in a wider European or EU context. This is an example that was being discussed on Scotland's talk page (though I think they have rejected a two map option). Prior to now no one knew that you could have two maps displayed in the info box. For 'smallish' counties the benifits are easy to graps, an up-close view of the country, and a wider contextual visualisation of the country. Dydd da!!
PS: This is an example from the Scotland page, please do not be offended that I display the Scotland info box here. It is only ment as an example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drachenfyre ( talk • contribs) 18:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Template:Germanic-speaking regions of Europe has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Janneman ( talk) 16:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Give your support or opposition at the Central Europe talk page, since we are looking for a single definition for it. It's very important. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 17:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all that participated and gave their opinion on Proposal II.
Proposal II was approved, 13 editors supported it and 5 editors opposed it. Proposal II is now in effect and it redefined Central Europe. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 23:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone swapped Austria with Australia, such childish actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morituri230 ( talk • contribs) 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
So the article keeps being either redirected to Australia, or vandalized so that it contains the large bulk of information FROM the Australian article. It's part of a rather pathetic troll attempt by /b/, against... /b/, itself - linked to the current news event of that guy raping his daughter for 24 years, etc. In AUSTRIA. They think it would be funny to say it was Australia instead, and then try to say that both countries are actually the same country, citing that "Australia" is what people native to Austria call their country, whereas everyone else calls it "Austria" ("Deutschland" vs "Germany", basically). If the article could be reverted back to it's correct state and then somehow edit-locked or something so the little fags can't get their jollies anymore, that would be fantastic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.66.159 ( talk • contribs)
Hi, I was wondering if it worth to mention a couple of sentences within the economy section about a numismatics subsection. I was thinking of a couple of lines referencing to the articles Austrian euro coins and Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Austria). Any thoughts? Miguel.mateo ( talk) 04:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, in the World War I section of the article it's been stated that Turkey was in the war which is not true as it had been found in 1923. It should be changed as Ottoman Empire which actually was a part of the war. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.161.43.163 ( talk) 16:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
....(however, both words ultimately derive from Proto-Indo-European *aust- "dawn")....
There's no such Indo-European etymon as aust- meaning "dawn". The ultimate root was apparently *H₂ews- (i.e., *aws-) "glow. brighten, dawn (vb.)", from which the word for "dawn" (noun) was a derived feminine s-stem *Hews-os- as in Sanskrit uṣas- (nom. uṣās) "dawn" (also the goddess thereof), Greek ēōs; Latin aurōra "dawn" is a metonym on "dawn goddess" < *awsōs-ā. The derivative *H₂ews-tero- is interesting; its apparent reflex in Latin auster meant "SOUTH wind" (some speculate that it originally meant "east wind") with a contrastive/particularizing suffix. Which apparently is also present in the Germanic "east(er)" words (Old English éast(e)re "east, eastern" (OE éast meant "to/in the east", cf. éastan "from the east")). On the basis of etymology, *H₂ewstero- would have meant "of or pertaining to dawn [rather than to something else]", a good enough basis for the meaning "east" that it has in Germanic.
I will lightly adjust the entry text for diachronic linguistic accuracy. Alsihler ( talk) 19:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Would it be worthwhile to mention the Austrian/Hapsburg Empire nad later Austro-Hungarian Empire here, as well as a brief mention of the wars? The imposition of great power to dwarf state was very dramatic and may garner interest from the casual viewer unfamiliar with European history. 89.100.18.51 ( talk) 20:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi there,
Apologies for asking this question in this talk page, I am not sure if this are the right thing to do.
I posted a question in Talk:UEFA Euro 2008#Austrian Commemorative Coins in the Miscellany section about the two commemorative coins minted by the Austrian government commemorating the EUFA 2008 football cup. I am looking for consensus to keep those coins in the article, since I think they are relevant enough. If you are reading this note can you please check the previous link and put your opinion there?
Thanks, Miguel.mateo ( talk) 11:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
There was recently a major overhaul of the history section, and I liked the history section as it was here on August 23rd than how it is now. I think the multiple sections made it easier to read and would prefer adding them again. Does anyone else wish to discuss? -- DerRichter ( talk) 21:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
As history Student and Native Austrian I missed some details and facts about Austria that had to be added and some facts to be corrected.
An important mistake I found more than one time, was saying somethings came from Bavaria or Bavarian cuisine, thats simply
incorrect. Austria is a neighbour to Bavaria since early times but copletely different in heritage and culture, from outside it Austrian and Bavarian cultures may look similiar or even the Slang spoken may sound the same for somebody that lives outside Bavaria or Austria but that isn´t true. And if you read somewhere that Austrian Slang is a Bavarian Dialect, such an article
comes from the time between 1938-1945 and is incorrect. Most austrian traditions are connected to other parts of former Austro-Hungarian Empire, such as the austrian citizens are, to be understand correctly Austria is a multicultural and multiethnic Country
sharing the same past with its neighbours. I didn´t add a fact that couldn´t be prooved. And as it should be clear there is a problem in every translation or translated facts, the human factor and the time wich a resoure dates back.
to proof look at [ [20]]
Yours Xandl Hofer November 6th 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xandl Hofer ( talk • contribs) 18:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
If anyone knows what needs to be updated, please explain here. Otherwise I will remove it. But we cannot update what we do not know needs to be updated. Thanks. -- DerRichter ( talk) 10:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Shall we take it down? Carl.bunderson ( talk) 20:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I did some small adds today a link to Habsburg Monarchy in the main Xandl Hofer ( talk) 18:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I did a post about Heritage of Austrians, while I am one myself. I tried to bring every important aspect in to create an understanding that there is a "Austrian Nation" but that it is more like the US American created by many heritages and cultures. only kept together by a kind of non-national patriotism - kind of a feeling of love for the country as a whole Xandl Hofer ( talk) 19:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello everybody, I'm also an author in the german Wikipedia (German user: TheSkunk}. There I wrote several articles or did co-work on articles like AFDRU and the "Bundesheer" (military), because i was a member of the AAF and AFDRU. In this article about austria is a little mistake concerning the declaration of AFDRU. AFDRU is not a SAR but an Urban search and rescue (USAR) unit. Additional there are also, against a typical USAR unit, elements for water-threatment integrated. For further information read the article about AFDRU in the german Wikipedia. Hope I could help - regards - RobertGal ( talk) 14:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
The maps in this article are pretty bad. Pretty vague as the maps don't outline other countries. Why not use this map? http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5395/1209659264783xu9.jpg Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 16:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
-- Johnny3031 ( talk) 17:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Is anyone interested in working together to push this article to good, or even featured article status? Over the last month or so I have been trying to find sources to verify the content, as well as making changes to help make the article a higher standard overall. It still needs a lot of work—there are sections written entirely without a single reference—and I cannot do this entirely on my own in an efficient manner.
Some issues that could be addressed are:
If anyone is interested in helping out, please discuss here. You may also vote at the Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive (although I am not sure how active this project is) to nominate the article for improvement. For inspiration, I recommend a similar style to the Germany or Belgium articles. I may be busy over the next couple of weeks, but I'll help out where I can. Thanks, Hayden120 ( talk) 11:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Expand this section please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.193.42 ( talk) 22:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Strange that this isn't getting the attacks that the Kazakhstan atricle got a few years back. My cat's breath smells like catfood ( talk) 19:40, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
the name is NORIG not Noricum... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.208.209.11 ( talk) 14:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
This is given as /ˈɔːstriə/ - but in British English (in my experience) it is usually /ˈɒstriə/, with /ˈɔːstriə/ used only by conservative older speakers (bear in mind that /ɔː/ and /ɒ/ are merged for many Americans, but not usually in Britain). Lfh ( talk) 12:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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What do the colors mean?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.158.65.199 ( talk • contribs) 02:44, 11 Feb 2003 (UTC).
The story with the flag color ıs a state myth or more an early political propaganda ( relating to Leopold V ) In reality ın the tıme same tıme a Austrıan nobility famely of Lower Austrıa died out and the posessıons where falling back to the Babenbergs as dukes of Austria by feudal law.This famely close to Zwettel had a red whıte and red shield. For a reason we dont know probably because ıt was simple the dukes overtook this shield. The castles witch name i have forgotten is still existing and you can see their the orignal red white and red shield painted as wall decoration.
May be that Leopold took this red whıte and red flag to invent this politıcal propaganda wich i have heard is older than this story. J. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.168.92 ( talk • contribs) 10:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
What does the Flag of Austria mean? What does it represent? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.83.124.226 ( talk • contribs) 09:50, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Adrian, I find the image of the Austrian town Kaprun really nice, but why did you put it on the "Austria" page? I don't see any relation to the article. Fantasy 08:11 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does it look like the two words of "Republik Österreich" have different fonts? RickK 06:00, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Why the heck isn't Hitler listed under 'Well-known Austrians'? I'm pretty sure he's well known. mSprout 14:38, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Sorry, but I didn't get a chance to say why I reverted (thanks, popups! I think). While I agree that it's important to mention Adolf Hitler reigns from Austria, the wording was horrible (obviously meant in a sarcastic manner) and doesn't really belong under Culture.
Also, he's in the List of Austrians. Maybe that's enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BillG ( talk • contribs) 02:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Apparently Hitler wasn't actually born in Austria as i thought! There's not a single mention of him in the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.1.15 ( talk • contribs) 03:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
The thing you don't understand is that A. Hitler WAS Austrian until the age of 25, but as he entered in the German Army in 1914, he lost his Austrian Nationality. Hitler never acquired the German Nationality, but still, he was born in Austria, and remains beside Arnold Schwarzenegger one of the most famous Austrians. —Preceding
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Actually he did aquire German (Brunswick) citizenship in 1932. He lost his Austrian citizenship in 1925 willingly not because his was in the German imperial army.-- MacX85 ( talk) 20:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it really necessary to state in the table, that prior to 1999 the Schilling was Austria's currency? IMPOV the table ought to give nothing more than a concise overview. We might want to put this information somewhere in the main body of the article. Gugganij 07:47, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
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my daughter is doing a project on Austria and we need to find the national animal,sport,flower,etc.Any help would be appreciated —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiredwizard ( talk • contribs) 20:19, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
What about Lipizzan? – Hokanomono 12:52, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Somebody has repeatedly changed the description of the largest ethnic group in Austria to simply "Austrians". This use of the word is completely misleading and incorrect, a simple look at other references on Austria will confirm this. There is simply no such thing as an "Austrian" ethnicity alone. Before the end of the second world war most Austrians clearly identified as ethnic Germans. Although it is clearly insensitive to label modern Austrians as ethnic Germans, it still does not make any sense to create an Austrian ethnic label on Wikipedia when it exist virtually nowhere else.
The original phrase that was used in this article was "German-Austrians". I personally find this term a bit too complicated and would recommend the use of a more sensitive label. My last suggestion and edit for this subject was the term "Germanic-Austrians". Another posibility would be "Austrians of Germanic descent".
But the fact remains Austrian has not ever been commonly used as and still is not (even six decades after the Second World War) an ethnic label.
Here is how other references handle the issue...
CIA World Factbook: Austria - Ethnic groups: German 88.5%, ....
Lonely Planet: People: 97% Germanic origin, 2% Slovene & .....
Encyclopedia Britannica: population, ethnically Germanic......
I suggest the use of the term "Germanic-Austrians", which is in line with many other references and avoids the insesitive labeling of Austrians as "ethnic-Germans".
I would also suggest that the person who keeps changing the term to simply "Austrians", join the discussion and give their reasons.
FrederikM -- 80.128.37.75 21:51, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I added a new section, an introductory text, to the demographics sections, for the sake of clarity. I as someone who is half Austrian and has lived in English-speaking countries for much of my life, am aware of how confusing the issue of Austrian nationality is to many people outside of the country, i.e are they Germans or not?, How was Hitler German and Austrian?, etc. Therefore I think it is important to have the text I placed the demographics section that quickly explains the historical background briefly and the current situation. If anyopne has any objection please let me know. I do however feel that this will make the article clearer and is a neccesary piece of information in a reference text about Austria and I beleive it belongs at the beginning of the demographics section and NOT in history.
FrederikM -- 80.128.37.75 21:51, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Trweiss I agree with you on the subject of being "politically correct" to some extent but I do beleive it is totally neccesary for the simple reason that this is an open encyclopedia. The original word used in the article (and I was one of the first to expand the demographics section here) was "German-Austrian" and that was in my opinion a perfectly acceptable term but it ended up getting repeatedly deleted, my guess is mostly by Austrian visitors. The use of the term "German" alone is really not an option for the simple reason that this page will be visited by many people with little or no knowledge of Austrian and German history, so the term would lead to a considerable of confussion even if it is placed in quotation marks and accompanied by an explanation. The term "German" should also not be used to avoid offending a good amount of the Austrian visitors to this site. As someone with an Austrian passport, I know how sensitive the subject is to some Austrians.
Personally I think the term "Germanic-Austrians" is an acceptable comprimise that is both in line with other English-language references and avoids the incorrect use of the word "Austrian" as an ethnic lable.
FrederikM-- 80.128.52.254 22:56, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to delete this:
The issue of Austrian nationality and ethnicity was throughout recent centuries and remains to this day a sensitive issue and a topic of dispute. Before the end of the Second World War, most of Austria's population were clearly self-identified ethnic-Germans, who considered themselves part of a larger German Volk (ethnic nation), together with the other German-speaking-populations of Europe. A strong distinct Austrian national identity has emerged since the mid-twentieth century and most Austrians now no longer identify themselves as "Germans". In modern Austria only a small minority of the population, mostly but not entirely people with conservative or far right political views, advocate a pan-German ethnic identity for German-speaking Austrians.
I don't think it is necessary to make an attempt at discribing Austrian national identity problems in this article at all, and would like to delete the above quoted text.-- Fenice 18:16, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
It makes no sence to discuss if Austrians are ethnic Germans or not... About 90% of all Austrians identify themselfs as ethnic Bavarians or Alemanics. I`m allowed to say that because I´m Austrian. Bavarians from Bavaria identify themselfs also as ethnic Bavarians and do not as Germans. It never existed an pan-german-nationality-feeling bevore Adolf Hitler.
It is correct that Austrians of german mother tongue identify themselfs as "Germans" before the second world war. But you have to make a big difference: When a Austrian of german mother tonge say: "I'm German" he always means "I'm german speaking" - also before the second world war.
You also have to make a difference between northern germans and southern germans - they are culturally totaly different!
A "German" is: only an inhabitant of de Federal Republic of Germany,
or: summary (not culturally, ant ethnical - but in the sence of the language) of volkgroups.—Preceding
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Turks are not an "national Austrian minority group"! Austrians of slovene- or croatian tongue also do not identify themselfs as "Slovenes" or "Croatians"! They are also "Austrians".
People from different english-speaking-countries also do not identify themselfs as "English" people. - You have to accept that a majority of Austrians don´t want to be identify as "Germans", because we are what we are AUSTROBAVARIANS.
If you would live in the German-speaking-countries, you would see and accept, that no lager-german-ethnic exist (in the head of the most) and never existed and in future not will exist.
What you mean is: a summary of Volkgroups who have quite the same language
If you have any knowledge about the german language you would see, that only some dialects in the north of Germany - known as "Highgerman" - is the Language wich is standard. In Austria we speak "bavarian" very hard to understand for north-, west-, and east-germans, and write Standardgerman. For example Dutch is much more easyer understandable for northgermans (when they speak dialect) than bavarian! And bavarian is so called an "german dialect" - you have to immagin. When you call me a "German", you also have to call a Dutch as "ethnic german"!
I have seen on your personal page that you are from the USA, would you identify yourself as "ethnic English"?
At the end of the first world war, Austria planed to get a part of Germany, but the plan was to be a very autonom state in a greater Germany. The austrian goverment don't wanted to be under porussian regiment even not the volk. The most of the people in Bavaria and Austria always had an bavarian identity. Bavaria today also is so called a "Freestate" it is an autonom State in the federal republic of Germany, as three other States. You can see, even in Germany most of the Bavarians, and others don't feel "German". In Bavaria about 60% identify themselfs as Bavarians at first... —Preceding
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The fakt is: that no greater-german-ethnicity exist. It is a summary of ethnicities witch have quite the same language. An "lager bavarian ethnicity" exist!
there are following "german-speaking" ethnicities:
1. Bavarians - living in southern Bavaria and Austria
2. Alemanics - living in Switzerland, Baden-Würtemberg and Elsass (France)
3. Franconians - living in Bavaria, Baden-Würtemberg, Hessen
4. Porussians - living in the rest of Germany
5. lower Saxons - living in the north
those are own ethnicities, in the sence of the language so called "Germans". —Preceding
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62.245.211.185 (
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17:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
I actually didn't plan to add to this discussion. However, I feel it's necessary as the artice in the current form is incorrect. I think the problem starts with the vague definition: "An
ethnic group can be determined on the basis of a complex set of characteristics, including race, nationality, religion, ancestry, and language."
The Austrian census does not collect data in the form it's argued about above. The only ethnic data gathered is citizenship, country of birth and religion.
[1] The 91.1 % stated in the article refer to Austrian citizenship and therefore the term Austrian seems most appropriate.--
Austronaut
01:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Patrick: Please consider the motto of the former Emperor of Austria: AEIOU ! (Austria Est Imperare Orbi Universo / Alles Erdreich Ist Osterreich Untertan) We rule the world, and no one else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.114.183.219 ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
It seems like the CIA Factbookt has changed it`s mind: Ethnic groups:
Definition Field Listing
Austrians 91.1%, former Yugoslavs 4% (includes Croatians, Slovenes, Serbs, and Bosniaks), Turks 1.6%, German 0.9%, other or unspecified 2.4% (2001 census) (
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/au.html#People) --
193.170.52.132
22:04, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I would like to add that this discussion is negelecting the fact that 95% of the viennese population is at least partly of eastern European origin. The viennese population is not ethnic german whatsoever! 212.183.41.16 12:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Ask a Native Austrian, sounds curious but there are some of us living in Austria from the beginning till now and hopefully happily ever after.
In Austria there are much ethnicities, but for better understanding to say Austrian doesn´t necessarily mean Ethnic-Austrian it is more used in a sense like US-American or US-Citizen the Term of Austria is widely spread and is used for current inhabitants of the Republic of Austria, even oficially. Looking back at World War II history no Austrian Citizen favours to be called an Ethnic German or a Bavarian. You can believe me Austrians existing, and as true as I am a Native, to say there are no Austrians is as you would say Native Americans do not exist, we are out there.
Yours Xandl Hofer November 6th 2008 19:19 —Preceding
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Hi,
Last night I discovered that my submission on this page was identified as spam
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Austrosearch Bilingual Austrian Search engine and Directory (German, English)
I sent an inquiry with the moderator that removed it but I feel that maybe I posted the link without first inquiring the moderators regarding it's inclusion as an external link on this page. I have run Austrosearch for the last 7 years at a loss out of my own pocket, thus I feel calling my post spam to be unfair as it is more of my self appointed charity work for a country with one of the world's highest living standards. The other websites already listed as external links are no more nor less relevant to Austria than Austrosearch. Other websites have been very kind to my work promoting Austria such as Dmoz was below.
Austrosearch is listed in Dmoz under the following categories.
I submit that I may have my own political views on Austria and those are kept in the features section. I do not filter submissions based on political affiliations, only on relevance that the websites included in the directory have some direct basis relating to Austria. Austrosearch crawls, indexes, and caches for the public's benefit hundreds of News articles daily in German and in English.
Kindest Regards, Jason —Preceding unsigned comment added by Austrosearch ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I am not certain for how long this will remain on as a top result, but I did a check for websites that link to
Austria - Wikipedia and
my website was the first search result on msn
1-10 of 1,423 containing link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria -site:wikipedia.org.
Today I discovered the
#wikipedia irc channel and found folks to be very informative and more than willing to let me know what got my site initially removed. I acknowledge now after those discussions that it would not be appropriate if I were to submit the link to the
Austria - Wikipedia page. Nevertheless it is my hope that someone find it of merit to be added as
Austrosearch works hard at it's mission as a non partisan source and record of information and fact directly pertaining to Austria. Regards,
Austrosearch 23:07, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
To meet increased competition from both EU and Central European countries, Austria will need to emphasize knowledge-based sectors of the economy, continue to deregulate the service sector, and lower its tax burden.
This seems rather POV speculation. Who added this? Is it from the CIA fact book? If so, perhaps it should be attributed. Mr. Jones 10:47, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I reverted 213.132.117.4's vandalism. People really need to grow up. =\ -- Kross 09:36, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
I've restructured and rewriten some parts of the article. I stop now, however I want to point out that the article is in desperate need of
Themanwithoutapast 05:05, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
I have replaced a few substituted instances of the template {{ Main}} by {{ seesubarticle}}. This because the accompanying template {{ seemain}} was hopelessly confusing with Main. I have placed the accompanying template {{ subarticleof}} on the according subarticles. For feedback and suggestions please visit Template talk:seesubarticle and Template talk:subarticleof. Thanks -- MarSch 11:34, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
IMHO (as an Austrian very much interested in politics), it is a very minor fact that some ÖVP politicians have occasionally proposed joining NATO. If we mention this in the main article, we should also mention in the Iceland article that some politicians have proposed to join the EU. The proposal to join NATO was of importance during the Cold War, but after the fall of the Soviet Union, the idea of joining NATO is not even remotely considered by ÖVP politicians any more (openly, at least), because public opinion is somewhere above two thirds against that proposal. While browsing through pages on Austria, I just felt that this factoid was not really notable. ::shrugs:: Would be interested as to why you think this is notable. Thanks in advance! ナイトスタリオン… ㇳ–ㇰ 23:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Mh, well, sometimes you learn something new about your country... it seems that Schüssel did indeed say something along the lines of "should consider all options, including NATO membership" in November 2001. Still, I do not consider this possibility noteworthy enough to mention it in the main article, which should give a short overview of Austrian politics; NATO membership is definitely not an important topic in Austrian politics at the moment. ;) ナイトスタリオン… ㇳ–ㇰ 23:26, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
I think the federal cpaital is not mentioned properly in this article. It should be obvious from the first paragraph that Austria Vienna is the capital —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.16.208.218 ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
The article on Franz Kafka has been listed to be improved on Wikipedia: This week's improvement drive. Add your vote there if you want to support the article.-- Fenice 06:18, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I have removed the cleanup tag from this article. It was put there by an editor who apparently hasn't seen the kind of articles that do need the tag; this article is neither ungrammatical nor poorly formatted nor confused. And, for what it's worth, there is no explanation on this talk page what should be cleaned up, either. Maybe {{Fact|date=March 2008}} (Citation needed) or {{Dubious|date=March 2008}} (( disputed )
Dubious) would have fit the bill. Rl 06:52, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
It is not entirely clear what Catholicism means in the section on religion. For instance, "the absolute monarchy of Habsburg imposed a strict regime to maintain Catholicism's power and influence among Austrians". I suppose that means "Roman Catholic Church", not "orthodox Christian church" or both. Same thing for "Catholic leaders such as Theodor Innitzer and Ignaz Seipel". Rl 18:07, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Something doesn't seem completely unbiased in the part where the article points out the reasons on catholicism's diminishing numbers. To me it sounds like too many personal opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcuervo ( talk • contribs) 03:14, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
At the pink map where the federal states of austria are shown, the boarder of federal state Salzburg (Number 5) is wrong:
[2]
The right boarders are shown at the german Wikipedia site:
[3]
[4] —Preceding
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19:06, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
"To meet increased competition from both EU and Central European countries, Austria will need to emphasize knowledge-based sectors of the economy, continue to deregulate the service sector, and lower its tax burden."
Was this pulled out of an IMF report? Doesn't seem appropriate to have judgements about what Austria needs to do in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winmax ( talk • contribs) 16:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
This new notice board might be of interest to editors here. You can help with our current projects or ask for help with yours, and ask any related question on our talk page. Hope to see you there, Kusma (討論) 15:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
The name of Austria is partially explained on the main page. However, it only explains the German word/name Osterreich; and does not explain where the English word Austria comes from.
Do I take it that the English word is just a corruption of the German word? We can't say Osterreich properly so it came out as Austria? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Judge ( talk • contribs) 09:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
When was the name "Austria" starting to get used in Latin? It is clearly not a calque of ostarrichi, and doesn't seem to be a direct borrowing of the High German word, could it have come from another Germanic dialect? For instance Old Norse "austr" (east) looks extremely similar. 惑乱 分からん 14:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Marc Bloch's Feudal Society has a more accurate account of how the Osterreich came to be the name of the german boundary in the alps and with eastern Europe. In the eleventh century (or tenth, can't really remember) Otto the Great sent two large garrisons to the southeastern borders of the empire to protect against Magyar assaults. There garrisons were called the "Eastern Command" or, for a simpler translation of the primitive german "ostaricki," the "East-Rule." The sense being conveyed would thus be "Eastern Regime," but only "command" really keeps the military reality of its origins in sight.
Given the modern term "Reich" and its uses, Austria is often mistaken by English scholars as being derived from "Eastern Empire;" though it goes much further than the primitive roots allow, it's still much more accurate than "Eastern Realm." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.63.18 ( talk • contribs) 18:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
There is no article with Ottoman Empire. Ottoman Empire( Turks) ruled this country for 400 years. Nobody know this? Turks were defeated in Vienna. If they not, the Europe would be in danger, may be todays Europe would be never exist. Don't forget the History. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.240.33.154 ( talk • contribs) 11:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Why exactly was AUT adopted as the 3-letter code? (I know AUS is Australia, and I think that AUT stands for Autriche, which is french for Austria, but I'm not sure) ( 131.130.121.106 19:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC))
Why does it say {{{native_name}}}? It should say Republik Österreich.-- Sonjaaa 16:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed that the opening parentheses in the first paragraph is never properly closed. Someone should probably fix that. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightfight ( talk • contribs) 17:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
A still nowadays very important and very problematic point was the loss of the German speaking South-Tyrol to Italy after WW I.
Thats not true and POV. Since 1972, when Austria and Italy finaly agreed about the autonomy statute of south tyrol only very few people got a problem with it and for sure neither the official Austria nor Italy. I will delte it.--
85.124.233.216
03:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello folks! We should add a short notice that Austria is a neutral country and therefore not member of any international military organization ( NATO) execpt EURFOR (=EU-Force).
Please do add it. This is very important. Your friendly Reichsgauleiter Hansen 01:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Fucking nazi-scumbag! How can you call yourself "reichsgauleiter"?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.104.25.187 ( talk) 2009-02
Does anyone think that there is far too much space devoted to this? I think it would be more appropriate if all the information concerning the rights of slovenes were moved to Demographics of Austria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motekker ( talk • contribs) 04:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
i would appreciate if you could tell me where you found the info about belief in God in Europe. thank you -- alex medical services 00:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
-- Ifeldman84 19:40, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The infobox shows several official languages, but English isn't there. I've heard from dozens, maybe a hundred Austrians, they have to study at least four years of English in school. Traveling in remote parts of Austria is considerably easier than Germany for me since most Austrians' English is better than my German. Should English be listed as officially required? Or is that not done anymore? 71.193.192.51 21:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
The map for this country has recently been changed to a format which is not standard for Wikipedia. Each and every other country identifies that country alone on a contintental or global map; none of them highlight other members of relevant regional blocs or other states which which that country has political or constitutional links. The EU is no different in this respect unless and until it becomes a formal state and replaces all other states which are presently members; the progress and constitutional status of the EU can be properly debated and identified on the page for that organisation; to include other members of the EU on the infobox map for this country is both non-standard and potentially POV.
Please support me in maitaining Austria's proper map (in Wikipedia standard) until we here have debated and agreed this issue? Who is for changing the map and who against? The onus is on those who would seek to digress from Wiki standard to show why a non-standard and potentially POV map should be used. Austria deserves no less! JamesAVD 15:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The users above are misrepresnting my actions. Certain non-standard items have been included in the infoboxes of the pages of some European states. I have removed the undiscussed and unsupported changes and started a discussion here on the best way forward. I have in no way 'removed references to the EU'! The EU is an important part of the activities of the governmenance of many European states, to the benefit of all. That does not mean that an encyclopedia should go around presenting potentially POV information of the constitutional status of the EU in the infoboxes of states which are supposed to be standardised across Wikipedia. I'm interested in what users here feel? JamesAVD 15:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
No, Kusma, you had been suggesting way back that the (very thin) discussion on that page, out of the sight of the many contributors to the country pages involved, was sufficient to override the Wiki standard which should be changed by broad discussion. You were naming this page long before the point where I made this problem known to the contributors of all of the relevant pages. It would be more efficient if all contibuted to a discussion on that page but in all likelihood individuals will want to contribute on the talk page of the relevant country. They should feel free to do so. Please also, if you have a strong opinion, join in this debate. JamesAVD 16:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I want to point out a factual error on the page, at the bottom, there's this box with neighbors organized by cardinal directions. Slovenia and Slovakia are swapped on it. If I knew how to edit it, I would have :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.16.248 ( talk • contribs) 09:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
EDIT: Nevermind, figured it out :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.16.248 ( talk • contribs) 09:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
There now is a proposed WikiProject for Austria at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Austria. Any editors interested should add their names there and we will see if there is enough interest to began the project in earnest. Badbilltucker 21:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, the following scentence is wrong.. "To the latter group the term "Windische" (originally the German word for Slovenians) "... The word "windische" is not used for slovenians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.178.227.95 ( talk • contribs) 21:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Windische refers to a somewhat archaic term for Austrians of Slovenian ethnicity. Now I believe they are simply referred to in the media and by officialdom as slovenians or a Slovenian minority. This term dates back to the days of the Empire... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.82.147.122 ( talk) 12:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Why is Austria's name in Hungarian and Czech given? Surely they arent national languages??-- WoodElf 07:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I will come back and rewrite and expand more of the article. Reference examples are articles on Sweden or GErmany. Themanwithoutapast 11:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The Anthem is not called "Land der Berge, Land am Strome", this is just the first line.
In Books, it is called "Österreichische Bundeshymne".
The Anthem is based on
KV 425 by
Mozart with words by Paula Preradovic. --
Helmut Gründlinger
20:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I have just seen that somebody has written that the anthem is "Land der Keller" - this cant possibly be right. I think that the same person has written that Joaeph Fritzel is the president - Seems like somebody has been havin fun... —Preceding
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85.24.88.239 (
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21:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Austria's full name is Bundesrepublik Österreich (Federal Republic of Austria), not just Republik Österreich (Republic of Austria). For reference one need only take a glimpse at an Austrian passport. Danke! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.153.8.3 ( talk • contribs) 12:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
In the "Babenberg" article of Wikipedia, it says "Austria, the capital of which had been transferred to Vienna in 1156, was elevated into a duchy in the Privilegium Minus." Fruthermore, the original fief, as well as the first Margravate, did not extend to Vienna (rather 60 miles only from the Bavarian border). Was it that the Austrian Margravate simply did not have a Capital? or was it Passau, because Vienna had to wait until 1469 before becoming a separate diocese? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SayKay ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I cant find anything about crime in this. the country has one of the lowest crime rates in the world and murder rates. it averges 100 murders a year which is very low considering baltimores averge murder rate is 312 a years —Preceding unsigned comment added by BonesBrigade ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Who was the only ruler of the Holy Roman Empire who was not a Habsburg? This article mentions that but does not reference him or her (probably a him :)).
BaileytheDog 19:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
When reading this article the other day, it came to my attention that Austria had been defined as a 'mythical' country. I don't know what joker wrote that! I proceeded to delete the offending word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.108.56 ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
In 1804 the Austrian Empire was founded by Franz II./I., while the Deutscher Bund (1815-1866) was just a lose confederation of germanspeaking countries. Regardless of this, some (german) users would like to call the AUSTRIAN emporers of that time to be "German Monarchs". See the discussion here:
-- Rfortner 01:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The third paragraph concerning the 19th century period of Austria is in need of some revision. There are some redundant statements, broken sentences and an explanation of events reminiscent of a junior high history essay. While the rest of the article is easily read, the grammar and sentence structure of that particular paragraph is difficult to digest. I would edit it myself, had I understood what I read in that paragraph. Perhaps someone who is knowledgable of that era could sort and reorganize that jumble of words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canucker25 ( talk • contribs) 19:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The numbers listed are wrong, I tried to find current numbers, but the best I could find were from 2001
"The share of renewable energy sources in the total energy system has been rising since the mid 70ies and amounted to 22.65 percent of total energy supply in 2001." from
http://www.energyagency.at/projekte/ren-in-a01.htm
The main page is
http://www.energyagency.at/projekte/ren-in-a.htm
Can anyone find more recent numbers to put in? —Preceding
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24.147.128.73 (
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04:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone put the word Vespene in front of gas, as an obvious meme. I've since edited it out. ~Railen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.93.80 ( talk • contribs) 23:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be no history in Austria during WW-II. Was there a war in this country? Was it bombed? Were people killed? Did the Soviet Army invade it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hudicourt ( talk • contribs) 22:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Doing some research, it seems to me that the 'Eierschwammerl' mentioned in the section about Austrian cuisine is simply good ol' chanterelle mushrooms. Could this be verified/edited? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.252.87 ( talk • contribs) 05:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
The infobox says:
2006 estimate 8,199,783 (92nd)
The Demographics section says:
Austria's population estimate in October 2006 was 8,292,322.
Then, the List of countries by population says:
Austria 8,361,000 UN estimate
Furthermore, the Austria article ranks Austria as 92nd by population, the list of countries ranks it 93rd. This is a bit of a mess, to say the least.
What's the source, and what does the source say? Steevm 13:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
An anonymus IP ( 87.112.10.251) tries since some days to state absolutely wrong information about Karl Renner and the founding of the II. Republic of Austria:
1) First Mr. Anonymus tried to state, that Karl Renner started to set up a new government from western Austria, which was quite impossible as Renner survived the NS-Regime in Gloggnitz near to the Semmering and then he moved back to Vienna.
2) Also Mr. Anonymus tries to revert Austrian history by saying that Renner was out of the reach of the red army. Quite the contrary is true: It was the Red Army who SEARCHED for him in Gloggnitz and immediatly brought him to Vienna, as - furtunately for Austria - Stalin was personaly impressed by Renner whom he allready knew as one of the founder of the I. Republic of Austria in 1918/1919 (even when Stalin knew the border between Socialdemocrats like Renner and Communists, and - funny enough - the Austrian Communist Party KPÖ was AGAINST the reactivation of Renner). But allready in 1943 after the Moscow Declaration it was obvious, that the Soviets - like the other allies - had special plans for Austria and therefore kindly ignored most of the responsibility of Austrians between 1938 and 1945, especially with a quite friendly interpretation of the occurences during the Anschluss in 1938.
3) So let us come to the facts (and I am quite far away from supporting Communists or Soviet point of views, but I am quite serious about Austrian history and one has to be fair):
These are the facts about April 1945 in Austra. So, Mr. Anonymus, can you see that Renner was not in "Western Austria ... acting beyond the reach of the Red Army"? Can you therefore see, that your edits and reverts about this part of Austrian history where (and still are) simply wrong? -- Rfortner 12:56, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
The page gives: "Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube." - "Others may fight wars,but you - lucky Austria - marry!" as the country's motto.
I don't think this is correct. It is more of a saw or saying than a motto. A motto is a saying that expresses the guiding principles of something or someone. Austria does not nowadays try to live by the motto of 'Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube'. It is just an expression that came up at a time in history when Austria became powerful through successful marriage politics and hence didn't need to fight wars to enhance its political power, and which is still very familiar.
217.7.226.160
10:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I think only motto Austria ever had was: AEIOU, standig for: Austria est imperare orbi universo, which means: Austria is to rule over the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.119.171.91 ( talk) 15:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I see that Special:Contributions/69.129.41.90 has deleted this entire section of this article. I'm not well versed enough in Austrian history to know if this edit was a net positive to this page or a net negative. Your thoughts? Merenta 16:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Today, I reverted to Republic of Austria / Republik Österreich, removing
I can only assume that these are the names in Slovenian, Croatian and Hungarian, respectively. And while it is true that those minority groups have some rights as to the usage of their language, it does not make much sense to use them in an English article. The official name of the republic remains "Republik Österreich", minority right notwithstanding. Greil 07:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
The official name is not the Bundesrepublik Oesterreich! It is Republik Oesterreich. Changed back to correct form. That is the name used for Germany. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.82.3.129 ( talk) 01:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I am open to arguments, but I would timidly suggest to protect this article against changes by anonymous users. I've seen a lot of vandalism lately. None of which, luckily, remained uncorrected for a few hours, but still. Opinions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.40.161.64 ( talk) 06:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Talk about irony... 62.40.161.64 = Greil, but of course I am on a different computer now, and need my password mailed to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.40.161.64 ( talk) 07:36, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Who wrote this rubbish? The English is truly appalling and needs urgent attention which I am giving it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T A Francis ( talk • contribs) 20:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
"The German-Hungarian rule of this diverse empire, which included, (long list of groups)" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robcat2075 ( talk • contribs) 03:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I am going to resume with the inclusion of Kosovo in the maps of the countries that have formally accepted/recognised their independence. Bardhylius ( talk) 17:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Motto:
Nemo me impune lacessit] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (
help) (
Latin) "No one provokes me with impunity" "Cha togar m' fhearg gun dìoladh" ( Scottish Gaelic) '"Wha daur meddle wi me?"' ( Scots)1 | |
Anthem: ( Multiple unofficial anthems) | |
Location of Austria/Archive 1 (orange) in the United Kingdom (camel) | |
Location of Austria/Archive 1 (orange) in the European Union (camel) | |
Capital |
Edinburgh 55°57′N 3°12′W / 55.950°N 3.200°W |
Largest city | Glasgow |
Official languages | English |
Recognised regional languages | Gaelic, Scots1 |
Demonym(s) | Scot, Scots and Scottish² |
Government | Constitutional monarchy |
ISO 3166 code | GB-SCT |
Hello Austria!!! I have something that may interest contributers for this page. In a nut shell, it allows the option to display two maps in your info box, one could be a close up of Austria, and another would be Austria in a wider European or EU context. This is an example that was being discussed on Scotland's talk page (though I think they have rejected a two map option). Prior to now no one knew that you could have two maps displayed in the info box. For 'smallish' counties the benifits are easy to graps, an up-close view of the country, and a wider contextual visualisation of the country. Dydd da!!
PS: This is an example from the Scotland page, please do not be offended that I display the Scotland info box here. It is only ment as an example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drachenfyre ( talk • contribs) 18:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Template:Germanic-speaking regions of Europe has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Janneman ( talk) 16:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Give your support or opposition at the Central Europe talk page, since we are looking for a single definition for it. It's very important. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 17:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all that participated and gave their opinion on Proposal II.
Proposal II was approved, 13 editors supported it and 5 editors opposed it. Proposal II is now in effect and it redefined Central Europe. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 23:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone swapped Austria with Australia, such childish actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morituri230 ( talk • contribs) 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
So the article keeps being either redirected to Australia, or vandalized so that it contains the large bulk of information FROM the Australian article. It's part of a rather pathetic troll attempt by /b/, against... /b/, itself - linked to the current news event of that guy raping his daughter for 24 years, etc. In AUSTRIA. They think it would be funny to say it was Australia instead, and then try to say that both countries are actually the same country, citing that "Australia" is what people native to Austria call their country, whereas everyone else calls it "Austria" ("Deutschland" vs "Germany", basically). If the article could be reverted back to it's correct state and then somehow edit-locked or something so the little fags can't get their jollies anymore, that would be fantastic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.66.159 ( talk • contribs)
Hi, I was wondering if it worth to mention a couple of sentences within the economy section about a numismatics subsection. I was thinking of a couple of lines referencing to the articles Austrian euro coins and Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Austria). Any thoughts? Miguel.mateo ( talk) 04:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, in the World War I section of the article it's been stated that Turkey was in the war which is not true as it had been found in 1923. It should be changed as Ottoman Empire which actually was a part of the war. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.161.43.163 ( talk) 16:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
....(however, both words ultimately derive from Proto-Indo-European *aust- "dawn")....
There's no such Indo-European etymon as aust- meaning "dawn". The ultimate root was apparently *H₂ews- (i.e., *aws-) "glow. brighten, dawn (vb.)", from which the word for "dawn" (noun) was a derived feminine s-stem *Hews-os- as in Sanskrit uṣas- (nom. uṣās) "dawn" (also the goddess thereof), Greek ēōs; Latin aurōra "dawn" is a metonym on "dawn goddess" < *awsōs-ā. The derivative *H₂ews-tero- is interesting; its apparent reflex in Latin auster meant "SOUTH wind" (some speculate that it originally meant "east wind") with a contrastive/particularizing suffix. Which apparently is also present in the Germanic "east(er)" words (Old English éast(e)re "east, eastern" (OE éast meant "to/in the east", cf. éastan "from the east")). On the basis of etymology, *H₂ewstero- would have meant "of or pertaining to dawn [rather than to something else]", a good enough basis for the meaning "east" that it has in Germanic.
I will lightly adjust the entry text for diachronic linguistic accuracy. Alsihler ( talk) 19:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Would it be worthwhile to mention the Austrian/Hapsburg Empire nad later Austro-Hungarian Empire here, as well as a brief mention of the wars? The imposition of great power to dwarf state was very dramatic and may garner interest from the casual viewer unfamiliar with European history. 89.100.18.51 ( talk) 20:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi there,
Apologies for asking this question in this talk page, I am not sure if this are the right thing to do.
I posted a question in Talk:UEFA Euro 2008#Austrian Commemorative Coins in the Miscellany section about the two commemorative coins minted by the Austrian government commemorating the EUFA 2008 football cup. I am looking for consensus to keep those coins in the article, since I think they are relevant enough. If you are reading this note can you please check the previous link and put your opinion there?
Thanks, Miguel.mateo ( talk) 11:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
There was recently a major overhaul of the history section, and I liked the history section as it was here on August 23rd than how it is now. I think the multiple sections made it easier to read and would prefer adding them again. Does anyone else wish to discuss? -- DerRichter ( talk) 21:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
As history Student and Native Austrian I missed some details and facts about Austria that had to be added and some facts to be corrected.
An important mistake I found more than one time, was saying somethings came from Bavaria or Bavarian cuisine, thats simply
incorrect. Austria is a neighbour to Bavaria since early times but copletely different in heritage and culture, from outside it Austrian and Bavarian cultures may look similiar or even the Slang spoken may sound the same for somebody that lives outside Bavaria or Austria but that isn´t true. And if you read somewhere that Austrian Slang is a Bavarian Dialect, such an article
comes from the time between 1938-1945 and is incorrect. Most austrian traditions are connected to other parts of former Austro-Hungarian Empire, such as the austrian citizens are, to be understand correctly Austria is a multicultural and multiethnic Country
sharing the same past with its neighbours. I didn´t add a fact that couldn´t be prooved. And as it should be clear there is a problem in every translation or translated facts, the human factor and the time wich a resoure dates back.
to proof look at [ [20]]
Yours Xandl Hofer November 6th 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xandl Hofer ( talk • contribs) 18:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
If anyone knows what needs to be updated, please explain here. Otherwise I will remove it. But we cannot update what we do not know needs to be updated. Thanks. -- DerRichter ( talk) 10:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Shall we take it down? Carl.bunderson ( talk) 20:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
I did some small adds today a link to Habsburg Monarchy in the main Xandl Hofer ( talk) 18:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I did a post about Heritage of Austrians, while I am one myself. I tried to bring every important aspect in to create an understanding that there is a "Austrian Nation" but that it is more like the US American created by many heritages and cultures. only kept together by a kind of non-national patriotism - kind of a feeling of love for the country as a whole Xandl Hofer ( talk) 19:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello everybody, I'm also an author in the german Wikipedia (German user: TheSkunk}. There I wrote several articles or did co-work on articles like AFDRU and the "Bundesheer" (military), because i was a member of the AAF and AFDRU. In this article about austria is a little mistake concerning the declaration of AFDRU. AFDRU is not a SAR but an Urban search and rescue (USAR) unit. Additional there are also, against a typical USAR unit, elements for water-threatment integrated. For further information read the article about AFDRU in the german Wikipedia. Hope I could help - regards - RobertGal ( talk) 14:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
The maps in this article are pretty bad. Pretty vague as the maps don't outline other countries. Why not use this map? http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5395/1209659264783xu9.jpg Are you ready for IPv6? ( talk) 16:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
-- Johnny3031 ( talk) 17:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Is anyone interested in working together to push this article to good, or even featured article status? Over the last month or so I have been trying to find sources to verify the content, as well as making changes to help make the article a higher standard overall. It still needs a lot of work—there are sections written entirely without a single reference—and I cannot do this entirely on my own in an efficient manner.
Some issues that could be addressed are:
If anyone is interested in helping out, please discuss here. You may also vote at the Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive (although I am not sure how active this project is) to nominate the article for improvement. For inspiration, I recommend a similar style to the Germany or Belgium articles. I may be busy over the next couple of weeks, but I'll help out where I can. Thanks, Hayden120 ( talk) 11:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Expand this section please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.193.42 ( talk) 22:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Strange that this isn't getting the attacks that the Kazakhstan atricle got a few years back. My cat's breath smells like catfood ( talk) 19:40, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
the name is NORIG not Noricum... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.208.209.11 ( talk) 14:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
This is given as /ˈɔːstriə/ - but in British English (in my experience) it is usually /ˈɒstriə/, with /ˈɔːstriə/ used only by conservative older speakers (bear in mind that /ɔː/ and /ɒ/ are merged for many Americans, but not usually in Britain). Lfh ( talk) 12:13, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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TheRealGermanMan09 ( talk) 05:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Austria is a country located in Central Europe. Austrians are culturally different from Germans, even though they have many similarities.