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I remember hearing something about the roof of the tomb of the unknown soldier being specially designed to illuminate the grave at the 11th minute of the 11th hour, can anyone confirm this (preferably someone who lives in canberra)
Nope, the roof of the Hall of Memory was designed well before the repatriation of an Unknown Soldier was considered. The soldier was not brought back until 1993. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlaColumna ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know the actual motto that goes with the basket handles on ANZAC Parade? anyone, if you do please contact us asap and there is a reward. that is only if you know — B.Bryant 23:16, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the piper plays at the closing? (Is it even the same thing every time?) I presume that it's the equivalent of Taps, but I don't have any idea what the term for it is. — B.Bryant 23:23, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I believe the AWM's collection of VCs is the largest such collection in the world. Is this true? JackofOz 00:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
It looks like the Imperial War Museum in london has the largest collection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Cross#Collections 211.28.237.39 ( talk) 02:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
ANZAC is certainly put in upper case when it's a stand-alone acronym. And caps are always used on maps and road signs, so it's ANZAC PDE in those cases. But for general reference, I would have thought it's "Anzac Parade", not "ANZAC Parade". I've made the change in the article. JackofOz 00:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
I believe that you are right Jack. I thought that it was Anzac Parade not ANZAC Parade. -- Everlast118 ( talk) 23:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
You're right. However, it is AWM policy to capitalise ANZAC, hence: ANZAC Day, ANZAC parade, ANZAC legend on its website. I presume the entry has been composed by AWM staff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlaColumna ( talk • contribs) 06:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[3] From the press release
Can some space be found for some of these photos? -- Fir0002 05:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia states that Australian copyright law says that any photograph taken before 1955 is public domain. However, the Australian War Memorial website says that permission must granted to reproduce any of the photos from their site. Which is right? They have a lot of good World War II photos that I'd like to use in articles here on Wikipedia. I've tried writing to the Australian War Memorial with this question but they haven't responded. Cla68 15:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I just adjusted this article to include Kerry Stokes aquisition and kind insistance on it being displayed at AWM. Looking at the article is there value in a subsection on the VC medal collection given that this is a significant collection or would it be making the article touristy Gnangarra 09:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
If the article ever got to the point where it discussed each gallery the VCs could be further expanded on since there is a whole gallery for them - but until then I think the balance is good as is.-- Peta 10:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This article looks great, much better in fact than the articles of Parliament House, Canberra and Old Parliament House, Canberra, they are terrible by comparison. I am on a kind of mission to greatly improve the quality of these important but ignored articles. Look at United States Capitol and Michigan State Capitol!
If you can do this for the War memorial, then surley we can work together to boost the quality of other Important Australain Land-marks. Your help would be grealy appreciated.
Thanks , User:Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 01:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone think this is ready for feature status? – B.Bryant 02:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I've used the fantastic AWM website for a few years now, so I know the AWM mainly as a museum/repository: in fact, it was only really on reading this article that I realise it's actually a memorial as well. The introductory paragraphs talk about four major elements: an Anzac Parade, a commemorative area, a museum, and a sculpture garden. The contents mention three of these but not the museum - instead it has a section on the memorial building. Reading that section it isn't made explicit that this is the museum - it's confusing to people like me who aren't familiar with the physical set-up of the site. Jasper33 02:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd love to, but I live on the other side of the world. I was trying to point out that the article isn't clear: the museum is mentioned in the first para, but it's not clear whether exhibits are found throughout the various areas, or just in the commemorative area and the memorial building - or some other combination. I don't know because I haven't been there: I was hoping the article would clarify the matter and it doesn't. By the way, I am hugely grateful to the Australian Armed forces: they liberated my grandparents from a Japanese POW and civilian internee camp in Borneo in 1945. Jasper33 10:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I have some ideas about the structure and content of the article. I am a novice at Wikipedia but happy make the changes and additions if people agreed.
Museum Galleries and Research Centre
I think there should be separate sections for both Memorial’s collections and galleries and Research Centre. Both are areas of the Memorial that fulfil important functions of the Memorial as define by the Australian War Memorial ACT 1980.
The Memorial’s website claims that “The Research Centre is the single most important resource for researching Australia's military history’ and I can’t argue with that so perhaps a section would be good.
I also believe that as the largest part the Memorial, the museum galleries, desperately need representation in the article. The museum seems to be a vital part of the Memorial’s commemorative function. From personal experience, most people spend most of the time in the galleries. It is far from being of secondary importance instead its where people learn why the Memorial exists and why its important to remember.
Remembrance Driveway and Anzac Parade
The Remembrance Driveway and Anzac Parade seem to have a very high profile in the article especially when there are more relevant sections about the Memorial itself lower in the article. The article states that Anzac Parade is part of the Australian War Memorial. However, as the NCA website states, Anzac Parade is managed by the National Capital Authority not the Memorial.
It seems to me that both sections could be moved into one section covering the physical surrounds of the Memorial.
Comments?
NickNoo 12:58, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I have changed the name of the designer from Emil Sodersteen to Emil Sodersten in accordance with common usage. If you search Wikipedia you will see that the later spelling, as changed by deed poll, is the more widely used. The Australian Dictionary of Biography spells his name with one "e" in the arcticles heading. [4] Archifile ( talk) 00:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm reading a book about the Menin Gate, and wanted to point out here the connections between this memorial and the one in Belgium. First, the painting Menin Gate at Midnight is used to illustrate this article, but it is not mentioned in the text of the article! The reason is that the painting (originally done in London) is displayed at this memorial, something that needs to be mentioned in the text to explain why the painting is being used to illustrate this article (I would add the information, but someone needs to check first that this and other information wasn't removed by a vandal, and I don't have time to do that right now). The other connection is the lions on display at the AWM - these are the original lions that formed the Menin Gate during World War I! (At the time, the "gate" was just a road flanked by the stone lions on pedestals.) It's an amazing story, how the stone lions from Belgium ended up in Australia, eventually being restored and put on display at this memorial. I'll try and add details and references about that at some point, if no-one else does first. A source and picture for the latter bit are here and here. Source and picture for the painting and its history (and how it ended up at the AWM) are here and here. Carcharoth ( talk) 04:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
where the photograph of the memorial is in the infobox, below it it has the words 'For Australian military dead of all wars'. I would suggest that it could have the word fallen in place of dead, perhaps? Cybergothiche ( talk) 18:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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I agree that the article should cover the debate over the AWM's non-inclusion of the frontier wars, but the material which is being edit warred in is clearly not encyclopaedic: it's written as a one-sided polemic rather than an attempt to provide balanced coverage of this issue. Something along the lines of the last paragraph of Australian frontier wars#Historiography (which, from memory, I wrote) seems sensible. Nick-D ( talk) 10:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Since this post, the War Memorial has announced its expanding its coverage of the Frontier Wars DocWinters ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:43, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi Rupert,
I was wondering whether there was a group of administrators specializing on Australian military history; and if so, who are the leading experts? There are a few pages where there has been some dispute about citations. -- TheBlackandSilver ( talk) 05:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I work at the War Memorial, and I updated the page to reflect how a lot of the information included was either out of date, or incorrect 122.148.31.38 ( talk) 11:30, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
A lot of people are divided about the expansion of the War Memorial. Any concerns that I had were eliminated the second that I discovered that Peter Stanley (Nick-D here on Wiki) was incensed by the proposed development. I am all for it now. Oh, and - He was coming south and there was a Battle for Australia Nick-D (Peter Stanley). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.110.18.47 ( talk) 04:32, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
2001:8003:A070:7F00:2572:D09E:40F1:917 ( talk) 04:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
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I remember hearing something about the roof of the tomb of the unknown soldier being specially designed to illuminate the grave at the 11th minute of the 11th hour, can anyone confirm this (preferably someone who lives in canberra)
Nope, the roof of the Hall of Memory was designed well before the repatriation of an Unknown Soldier was considered. The soldier was not brought back until 1993. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlaColumna ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know the actual motto that goes with the basket handles on ANZAC Parade? anyone, if you do please contact us asap and there is a reward. that is only if you know — B.Bryant 23:16, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the piper plays at the closing? (Is it even the same thing every time?) I presume that it's the equivalent of Taps, but I don't have any idea what the term for it is. — B.Bryant 23:23, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I believe the AWM's collection of VCs is the largest such collection in the world. Is this true? JackofOz 00:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
It looks like the Imperial War Museum in london has the largest collection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Cross#Collections 211.28.237.39 ( talk) 02:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
ANZAC is certainly put in upper case when it's a stand-alone acronym. And caps are always used on maps and road signs, so it's ANZAC PDE in those cases. But for general reference, I would have thought it's "Anzac Parade", not "ANZAC Parade". I've made the change in the article. JackofOz 00:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
I believe that you are right Jack. I thought that it was Anzac Parade not ANZAC Parade. -- Everlast118 ( talk) 23:39, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
You're right. However, it is AWM policy to capitalise ANZAC, hence: ANZAC Day, ANZAC parade, ANZAC legend on its website. I presume the entry has been composed by AWM staff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlaColumna ( talk • contribs) 06:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
[3] From the press release
Can some space be found for some of these photos? -- Fir0002 05:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia states that Australian copyright law says that any photograph taken before 1955 is public domain. However, the Australian War Memorial website says that permission must granted to reproduce any of the photos from their site. Which is right? They have a lot of good World War II photos that I'd like to use in articles here on Wikipedia. I've tried writing to the Australian War Memorial with this question but they haven't responded. Cla68 15:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I just adjusted this article to include Kerry Stokes aquisition and kind insistance on it being displayed at AWM. Looking at the article is there value in a subsection on the VC medal collection given that this is a significant collection or would it be making the article touristy Gnangarra 09:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
If the article ever got to the point where it discussed each gallery the VCs could be further expanded on since there is a whole gallery for them - but until then I think the balance is good as is.-- Peta 10:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This article looks great, much better in fact than the articles of Parliament House, Canberra and Old Parliament House, Canberra, they are terrible by comparison. I am on a kind of mission to greatly improve the quality of these important but ignored articles. Look at United States Capitol and Michigan State Capitol!
If you can do this for the War memorial, then surley we can work together to boost the quality of other Important Australain Land-marks. Your help would be grealy appreciated.
Thanks , User:Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 01:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone think this is ready for feature status? – B.Bryant 02:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I've used the fantastic AWM website for a few years now, so I know the AWM mainly as a museum/repository: in fact, it was only really on reading this article that I realise it's actually a memorial as well. The introductory paragraphs talk about four major elements: an Anzac Parade, a commemorative area, a museum, and a sculpture garden. The contents mention three of these but not the museum - instead it has a section on the memorial building. Reading that section it isn't made explicit that this is the museum - it's confusing to people like me who aren't familiar with the physical set-up of the site. Jasper33 02:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd love to, but I live on the other side of the world. I was trying to point out that the article isn't clear: the museum is mentioned in the first para, but it's not clear whether exhibits are found throughout the various areas, or just in the commemorative area and the memorial building - or some other combination. I don't know because I haven't been there: I was hoping the article would clarify the matter and it doesn't. By the way, I am hugely grateful to the Australian Armed forces: they liberated my grandparents from a Japanese POW and civilian internee camp in Borneo in 1945. Jasper33 10:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I have some ideas about the structure and content of the article. I am a novice at Wikipedia but happy make the changes and additions if people agreed.
Museum Galleries and Research Centre
I think there should be separate sections for both Memorial’s collections and galleries and Research Centre. Both are areas of the Memorial that fulfil important functions of the Memorial as define by the Australian War Memorial ACT 1980.
The Memorial’s website claims that “The Research Centre is the single most important resource for researching Australia's military history’ and I can’t argue with that so perhaps a section would be good.
I also believe that as the largest part the Memorial, the museum galleries, desperately need representation in the article. The museum seems to be a vital part of the Memorial’s commemorative function. From personal experience, most people spend most of the time in the galleries. It is far from being of secondary importance instead its where people learn why the Memorial exists and why its important to remember.
Remembrance Driveway and Anzac Parade
The Remembrance Driveway and Anzac Parade seem to have a very high profile in the article especially when there are more relevant sections about the Memorial itself lower in the article. The article states that Anzac Parade is part of the Australian War Memorial. However, as the NCA website states, Anzac Parade is managed by the National Capital Authority not the Memorial.
It seems to me that both sections could be moved into one section covering the physical surrounds of the Memorial.
Comments?
NickNoo 12:58, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I have changed the name of the designer from Emil Sodersteen to Emil Sodersten in accordance with common usage. If you search Wikipedia you will see that the later spelling, as changed by deed poll, is the more widely used. The Australian Dictionary of Biography spells his name with one "e" in the arcticles heading. [4] Archifile ( talk) 00:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm reading a book about the Menin Gate, and wanted to point out here the connections between this memorial and the one in Belgium. First, the painting Menin Gate at Midnight is used to illustrate this article, but it is not mentioned in the text of the article! The reason is that the painting (originally done in London) is displayed at this memorial, something that needs to be mentioned in the text to explain why the painting is being used to illustrate this article (I would add the information, but someone needs to check first that this and other information wasn't removed by a vandal, and I don't have time to do that right now). The other connection is the lions on display at the AWM - these are the original lions that formed the Menin Gate during World War I! (At the time, the "gate" was just a road flanked by the stone lions on pedestals.) It's an amazing story, how the stone lions from Belgium ended up in Australia, eventually being restored and put on display at this memorial. I'll try and add details and references about that at some point, if no-one else does first. A source and picture for the latter bit are here and here. Source and picture for the painting and its history (and how it ended up at the AWM) are here and here. Carcharoth ( talk) 04:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
where the photograph of the memorial is in the infobox, below it it has the words 'For Australian military dead of all wars'. I would suggest that it could have the word fallen in place of dead, perhaps? Cybergothiche ( talk) 18:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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The following coordinate fixes are needed for
Ntcygdyhszjfhdhgegtvtgfhyrct trf{| class="wikitable" |Jhdydyjgwfgdyrdgf |}
— 69.119.228.27 ( talk) 23:14, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I agree that the article should cover the debate over the AWM's non-inclusion of the frontier wars, but the material which is being edit warred in is clearly not encyclopaedic: it's written as a one-sided polemic rather than an attempt to provide balanced coverage of this issue. Something along the lines of the last paragraph of Australian frontier wars#Historiography (which, from memory, I wrote) seems sensible. Nick-D ( talk) 10:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Since this post, the War Memorial has announced its expanding its coverage of the Frontier Wars DocWinters ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:43, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi Rupert,
I was wondering whether there was a group of administrators specializing on Australian military history; and if so, who are the leading experts? There are a few pages where there has been some dispute about citations. -- TheBlackandSilver ( talk) 05:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I work at the War Memorial, and I updated the page to reflect how a lot of the information included was either out of date, or incorrect 122.148.31.38 ( talk) 11:30, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
A lot of people are divided about the expansion of the War Memorial. Any concerns that I had were eliminated the second that I discovered that Peter Stanley (Nick-D here on Wiki) was incensed by the proposed development. I am all for it now. Oh, and - He was coming south and there was a Battle for Australia Nick-D (Peter Stanley). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.110.18.47 ( talk) 04:32, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
2001:8003:A070:7F00:2572:D09E:40F1:917 ( talk) 04:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)